Hello 2k5 Fans and Football Fans!
I am about one weeks away from release and have just been way too excited to refrain from posting anything on this mighty project I started 3 years back. I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel through all the craziness that has been the past few years IM ECSTATCED to finally talk about, and release this!
Soooooo what exactly is this?
Glad you asked! This is a mod for 2k5 that adds a roster file/Franchise File/ and Draft Class from 1940 (Draft class starts in 1936) to 2022’s upcoming draft class. Yes no part of that was a typo this is 80 years of football each season recreated team by team player by player! Impossible you say? Well it is very much possible if you spend every waking hour doing this! Basically using many many sources, formulas, an excel sheet that was so big it crashed my last laptop, and time and effort I have created pretty much every season and draft class!
Once you find a base roster file it isn’t AS difficulty as one would think. I have to give the biggest shout out to Bad AL and his amazing editor which basically allowed me to open each file in excel, use my extensive formulas to gather all the data needed, and then edit players to my likings and import them through his editor. After the 50s I also used Bad AL’s nfl history program which I used to cross reference myself in case I missed any player had incorrect skin tone etc etc. Worked like a charm! Thank you Bad Al wouldn’t have been possible without you! And I really hope you continue to update the editor because it has single handedly saved this project from capsizing.
So, starting in 1940 I created the 1940 roster by hand, and created a name database that pulls names in the game, or in the roster to fill out every team that didn’t exist back then. This was to help with name corruption issues in franchise mode(which I will go into great lengths about in a moment). So I generated generic players for all other teams, and the actual NFL teams data was pulled from three different websites, cross referenced with each other, then added into the game and I went team by team editing ratings errors etc. Any team that didn’t fill out the 53 man roster or was missing positional players also received generic players. After that I created the franchise file imported the draft class and moved on to 1941, then 42, and on and on and on (shout out Erykah Badu).
Again Bad AL’s program made this much simpler then it sounds still a crap ton of work, but I am not putting the final touches on the 2000’s rosters, and the current year rosters.
WHICH YES I have a fully working 2k22 roster with all the rookies up to the 5th round in. The rest are in free agency!
So in due time you’ll be able to play with Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Patrick Surtain and the rest!
Franchise Mode and Draft Classes
I can’t thank the community and the content creators enough for keeping 2k5 alive and kicking. So amazing what a job you guys have done on rosters, and equipment, and ratings. But, one thing I do miss in 2k5 that’s not present in most new rosters?
Rebuilding teams, going far into the future with a squad, progression, drafting, free agent pickup. I miss building teams in 2k5. Madden has stole the show there I spend hours watching youtubers rebuild teams in Madden. And I just kept thinking. This sucks 2k5 deserves this too. And that is what most of my manpower has went to. Drafting, and going deep in a franchise!
Each roster file has its own franchise file each file is made and tested to work at least 10 years in the future! Each file has avoided freezing issues, name corruption, and other catastrophic issues. They all use the same base file, and all files have at least 150 free agents, the other free agents slots are taken up by generic players with the same name who’s ratings are all 0 and years pro is maxed. So they retire immediately and make it hard to run into the name limit. The way it works is you load a franchise file lets say 1962 you play the season when you get to the draft you will notice you have 1963 rookies already in thanks to me! Each draft class features at least 250 of the top draft picks. After that you will enter pre season it may freeze for 5 minutes or so, but every file has been tested and is working past year uno. After the pre season youll save it go to 2k5 editor and import the new draft class and schedule(Instructional video will come upon release of this). And done! Youll be in year 1963 with 1964 draft class and you can keep going and going from there.
You can import any draft class or schedule as well you can import the current draft class with Sam Howell in 1942 franchise mode if you want to for some reason. There is also a trick with importing the class that keeps it from corrupting names or mixing them up which I will go into detail upon launch!
There will be draft classes going up to 2025 using a prospect board website I found, after that I have created fictional draft classes that work well with my rosters!
The rosters themselves are formulated for the best of all worlds. Each roster goes through an extensive editing formula that makes passing game much easier and realistic while also preserving sim stats, and team and player ratings. When teams and players are rated on a similar scale as 2k5 they progress much more realistically so I kept that in mind I have a scale and formula I use that determines how good a player played during this season how his career played out and grades him accordingly.
They are kinda harsh grades. The winless Browns Lions and Bucs have all been 25-45 offense and defense ratings. Most QB’s are rated around 60s-70s this creates a lot of parity at the QB position. Tom Brady will not play like Tim Tebow and vice versa. I will include an entire rating breakdown upon release as well!
I have found through lots of research that certain intangible stats seem to help players progress. Such as consistency, composure, leadership, and stamina. Players who are future hall of famers got a huge bump in these attributes. When rating the draft classes I’ve combined this and the normal stats to help draft gems and bust play out accordingly.
For example. Jamarcus Russell will have good ratings compared to other QB’s, but really really bad intangible stats. So in theory and what I have found out is he may start at a certain overall, but wont go up from there. Where as Tom Brady starts with below average ratings, but insane intangible stats which helps him progress a lot more.
In test I’ve seen Tom Brady go from a 70 overall rookie year to a 100 overall by year 5. BUT! The best thing about 2k5 weird and misunderstood progression system is some times Brady just didn’t progress past an 80. Which in my opinion is really cool! Because it is realistic players don’t just keep improving from year 1 and stop at a certain age like in madden it is a bit more random but it does make it fun because players career path change so often
It. Is. Beautiful to see.
I obviously can’t do everything, and this is an alpha release to gage excitement and engagement. There’s a lot of work still to go and I’m currently designing a road map of where I see this project going forward. Please note that other then spending more time on this then my actual full time job. I do have a full time job haha and it has slowed the progress a tad bit.
The things that are currently in the works are as followed:
Hex Editing for each file
Playbooks for each of the 32 current teams for better offense play and more real to life 2021 play
Coaches
Clearing stats in each franchise to fix sim stat glitch in second season
AAFC 1945-1950
All Decade Teams
All Rookie Teams
Fantasy Rosters
Equipment(I’m not the best with equipment.. I kinda made most players very similar other then the obvious one’s from star players. But do not expect a backup QB on the 1971 Raiders to have the correct equipment, or even newer players this will take time and I will be better at it!)
Also, after release I’ll update each season one by one. This will be a ratings check, equipment check, skin tone, years pro, ironing out any issues with each season.
This will all be included in the road map I am creating for the project. Right now roughly speaking I expect to have an Alpha release by
6/17/2021 Alpha Release
Weekly update for my patreon members and bi weekly for everyone else
Patreon members also will have their name in the game in the fictional draft classes 😊
They will also have prioritization when it comes to what files get updated first!
9/1/2021 Full Release with each file gone through and bugs and issues mostly cleared
Each NFL week will have an update and a cool “Start today” feature that will allow you to start a franchise file wherever we are in the actual season like Madden and NBA 2k I’ll just update this file and play the games out to as accurate as possible stats as real life.
SO Much More but my brain hurts I need to go back to staring at spreadsheets and formulas while im off from work today.
Currently Unfinished
1996 Franchise and Roster
1997 Franchise and Roster
1998 Roster
2006-2016 Franchise and Roster
1945-1950 Franchise and Roster
I just want to keep 2k5 alive and kicking and this project has made me fall in love with 2k5’s shortcomings, and its greatest attributes once again. It is not perfect and this mod wont be perfect, but it will be a lot of work effort and love in it, and it’s not like Madden isn’t without its flaws. Every game has flaws but 2k5 just has it I think the greatest sports game ever deserves the most ambitious project ever.
Thank you all for the support! Thank you Bad Al, Finn, Dolphin26, LostSoul, Rickster, Gilboldberg, Puja, Jsou, Packers, RyanMoody, SoftDrinkTV and the other GOATS of the forum and youtube sphere for all the work and effort went into all your files and findings. I hope this continues 2k5’s life another 10 years and build another amazing community that rivals other football games. Lets bring 2k5 back into the limelight
Again this project is very taxing please support if you can on my patreon, youtube channel where I’ll have simulations, and post fun rebuild challenges! And if you guys make any content out of these rosters or have cool games/highlight LET US KNOW share please the more engagement the better.
I’m also a part of another very large project if you are interested in advanced NBA Stats check it out here!
https://consciousbasketball.com/
https://www.patreon.com/2k5rewritehistory
Love you all talk to you soon!