Coach win glitch in CFM after 250 wins Madden 22

[jfeev215]

I'm not sure if this is something that's been going on for years because I haven't played Madden much in years, however I'm seeing this in my offline franchise right now. It's pretty bad that for whatever reason this game can't go past 250 wins and that I can't see a year by year record for coaches but this is pretty bad. As you can see it shows 8 wins but a .641 win percentage. I had to do the math to figure out exactly how many wins he really has. I also realize this will happen to any coach who sticks around long enough. Has anyone else noticed this and how many years has this been going on?20211207_032744.jpeg

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[CM Hooe]

This is an overflow error, which is uncommon (but not rare) in the statistics tables in Madden NFL.

Based on the information provided, Tiburon uses an unsigned byte to store the number of wins for a coach. An unsigned byte is represented in computer memory with eight bits; a bit is either 0 or 1. The minimum value of an unsigned byte is 0 (represented in binary as 00000000) and the maximum value of an unsigned byte is 255 (represented in binary as 11111111).

Adding 1 to an unsigned byte holding 255 will cause an overflow error. Adding 1 to 11111111 causes all eight bits to roll over to 0, and since there is no ninth bit to carry to (which would then represent 256), the carry value is lost the value stored in memory is instead 00000000, which as previously stated represents zero. From there the game adds to the value as if it were zero. You actually have 264 total wins.

Madden still using small primitives such as ushorts to hold statistics is likely a holdover from when the game was built on consoles with extreme RAM limitations (unclear which generation, though; the Sony Playstation only had 2 MB RAM, the Nintendo 64 bested it with 4 MB RAM, and the Sega Genesis only had a paltry 64 KB RAM). To fix this error, Tiburon must upgrade the backing data type for coach wins to a primitive which can store a greater maximum value, such as an unsigned short (max value: 65535) or an unsigned integer (maximum value: 4294967295).

Overflow errors in Madden are easy to spot when you exceed 127 interception return yards or 127 fumble return yards with a single player in a single game; the value instead rolls over to -128, since the backing data type is a signed byte (as opposed to an unsigned byte which cannot hold a negative value).

[jfeev215]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

This is an overflow error, which is uncommon (but not rare) in the statistics tables in Madden NFL. Based on the information provided, Tiburon uses an unsigned byte to store the number of wins for a coach. An unsigned byte is represented in computer memory with eight bits; a bit is either 0 or 1. The minimum value of an unsigned byte is 0 (represented in binary as 00000000) and the maximum value of an unsigned byte is 255 (represented in binary as 11111111). Adding 1 to an unsigned byte holding 255 will cause an overflow error. Adding 1 to 11111111 causes all eight bits to roll over to 0, and since there is no ninth bit to carry to (which would then represent 256), the carry value is lost the value stored in memory is instead 00000000, which as previously stated represents zero. From there the game adds to the value as if it were zero. You actually have 264 total wins. Madden still using small primitives such as ushorts to hold statistics is likely a holdover from when the game was built on consoles with extreme RAM limitations (unclear which generation, though; the Sony Playstation only had 2 MB RAM, the Nintendo 64 bested it with 4 MB RAM, and the Sega Genesis only had a paltry 64 KB RAM). To fix this error, Tiburon must upgrade the backing data type for coach wins to a primitive which can store a greater maximum value, such as an unsigned short (max value: 65535) or an unsigned integer (maximum value: 4294967295). Overflow errors in Madden are easy to spot when you exceed 127 interception return yards or 127 fumble return yards with a single player in a single game; the value instead rolls over to -128, since the backing data type is a signed byte (as opposed to an unsigned byte which cannot hold a negative value).

Thanks for the answer, at least now I know why that happened.

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[BTW]

This glitch was in last year's version as well. Kind of a bummer for people that actually play their franchises for a really long time.

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[Mattanite]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

This is an overflow error, which is uncommon (but not rare) in the statistics tables in Madden NFL. Based on the information provided, Tiburon uses an unsigned byte to store the number of wins for a coach. An unsigned byte is represented in computer memory with eight bits; a bit is either 0 or 1. The minimum value of an unsigned byte is 0 (represented in binary as 00000000) and the maximum value of an unsigned byte is 255 (represented in binary as 11111111). Adding 1 to an unsigned byte holding 255 will cause an overflow error. Adding 1 to 11111111 causes all eight bits to roll over to 0, and since there is no ninth bit to carry to (which would then represent 256), the carry value is lost the value stored in memory is instead 00000000, which as previously stated represents zero. From there the game adds to the value as if it were zero. You actually have 264 total wins. Madden still using small primitives such as ushorts to hold statistics is likely a holdover from when the game was built on consoles with extreme RAM limitations (unclear which generation, though; the Sony Playstation only had 2 MB RAM, the Nintendo 64 bested it with 4 MB RAM, and the Sega Genesis only had a paltry 64 KB RAM). To fix this error, Tiburon must upgrade the backing data type for coach wins to a primitive which can store a greater maximum value, such as an unsigned short (max value: 65535) or an unsigned integer (maximum value: 4294967295). Overflow errors in Madden are easy to spot when you exceed 127 interception return yards or 127 fumble return yards with a single player in a single game; the value instead rolls over to -128, since the backing data type is a signed byte (as opposed to an unsigned byte which cannot hold a negative value).

Funnily enough, 255 was the max score any one side could put up in a game. Any TDs after 255 wouldn't show.

[CM Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by BTW

This glitch was in last year's version as well. Kind of a bummer for people that actually play their franchises for a really long time. B

This sort of bug has likely appeared in every Madden game you’ve ever played. I can remember seeing similar overflow bugs in the PS2 Madden games.