WWE Going Downhill

[savoie2006]

It's a joke. The same ol' title holders, lack of proper push for younger stars, now specialty matches becoming their own PPV's. To top that off, blood is out of such matches. Yeah, it's the quality of the match that matters in the long run, but to have a matches listed as so brutal as Hell In A Cell, Elimination Chamber, Last Man Standing, and I Quit. To not have blood in any of those hardly makes there brutality seem very brutal to me. Sorry, but I see a guy have his head driven into "unforgiving steel" and bashed with chairs and anything else his opponent can hit him with, I would think it would break the skin at some point. The fact that these matches are now focal points of certain PPV's hardly makes them special anymore. I use to look forward to seeing Triple H or Undertaker brutalize someone in the steel structure. Now it seems like just another match, rather than the brutal conclusion to a personal fued.

Also, stop giving the titles to the same people. It's Cena,Orton, Taker, Batista, Edge and Triple H. Don't get me wrong, I like most of them as Champs for a while, it's starting to get old and no one seems to hold the title for much longer than a couple months at time any more. Having the likes of CM Punk as Champ is nice, if they would let him retain it any lengthy amount of time. It would also be nice to see Kane, Jericho, Matt Hardy, or MVP hold the belts for a while. You can still have the big guys in the main events, but have them fighting to win the titles instead and NOT ALWAYS WINNING them just because they draw the crowds.

Needless to say I'm very disappointed in the WWE lately. That's my rant. What are you guys thoughts on the current state of the WWE?

[goh]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

I think CM Punk better win at HIAC or I'll have to agree with this. If 'Taker went to and Batista had stayed on Raw and Rey didn't get suspended we'd be having Punk vs. Morrison instead.

[Hooe]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

WWE's product is marketed towards a different and younger demographic now, and as such it's not going to compare favorably to those who were drawn to the 'E during the Monday Night Wars and the Attitude Era, which is for all intents and purposes over.

It's going downhill from your perspective as it's not as interesting to you, which is fine because they've shifted who they are trying to gain the interest of. That said, WWE as a business is by no means going downhill.

I will say that the quality of the in-ring work is kind of depressing at times, and that it's a sad commentary on the state of wrestling when the best wrestler in the company is a 44-year old with a fused back and torn-up knees who debuted in the company in 1988.

[55]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

Raw sucks but Smackdown is still pretty damn good. CM Punk is the best thing to happen to the WWE in a very long time though. The PPVs this year have been hit or miss for me.

[DaveDQ]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

They are losing an important age group, 20-somethings. With the rise and popularity of UFC and all things MMA, the WWE has some serious competition.

[Sanchez_Mareno]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

I will say that the quality of the in-ring work is kind of depressing at times, and that it's a sad commentary on the state of wrestling when the best wrestler in the company is a 44-year old with a fused back and torn-up knees who debuted in the company in 1988.

Major brain fade moment.....Who is that your describing?

[Hooe]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

Major brain fade moment.....Who is that your describing?

Shawn Michaels

I don't really think anyone can make an argument for anyone else being a better pound-for-pound in-ring performer right now.

[thakeaf]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

Yeah I can't get into their current product at all. The guest how deal made me tune in early on but now even that has gotten played out. How many times can you bring DX back. It was fun in 2006 but now I'm like c'mon..I can officially say I have grown out of wrestling. I still tune in every now and then but I'll have to be extremely bored.

[DJ]

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Shawn Michaels

I don't really think anyone can make an argument for anyone else being a better pound-for-pound in-ring performer right now.

Chris Jericho is right there. It's a shame he's not wrestling singles at the moment but at least he's making this partnership with Big Show work.

WWE is making a smart move, imo, to trend its product towards young kids. They need to start rebuilding a fan base that will stay with them for a while. It's clear that a good-number of fans from the Attitude glory days have left and aren't coming back. Makes sense to try and get the young kids interested in the product.

SD is still a very good show as it's focused more on the in-ring product than those goofy comedy skits you see on RAW.

[WeLLWeLL]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

WWE has been going downhill since 2000/1.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

WWE is not going downhill at all. As a business it could almost be argued that with their dedication to a strong tape library, and smarter cost cutting measures, they may actually be growing. Especially globaly.

Also, ring work is probably at an all time high. Go back to the Attitude Era... it wasn't about wrestling, it was about story lines. Today's matches kill the old matches in terms of athleticism and overall flow.

While its not the found memories you remember, todays wrestling product is still running at a very high level.

[jeremym480]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

WWE has been going downhill since 2000/1.

For me wrestling was best in the 1994-1999. When you had DX with Billy Gunn and Road Dogg, Stone Cold, The Rock, etc. for the WWF and the WCW had N.W.O and the Four Horseman (Flair, Benoit, McMichaels Malenko). It's been all down hill ever since.

[TimmeH]

Re: WWE Going Downhill

WWE is not going downhill at all. As a business it could almost be argued that with their dedication to a strong tape library, and smarter cost cutting measures, they may actually be growing. Especially globaly.

Also, ring work is probably at an all time high. Go back to the Attitude Era... it wasn't about wrestling, it was about story lines. Today's matches kill the old matches in terms of athleticism and overall flow.

While its not the found memories you remember, todays wrestling product is still running at a very high level.

lol I absolutely love it when people complain about all the promos and storylines and lack of wrestling from today's wrestling. They really must not remember what it was like before. The Jerishow-MVP/Henry match from Raw this past Monday had more wrestling than some shows from the beloved Attitude era lol.

My only problem with the current product is how stale it is at times. It seems like the title feuds are always focused on Cena/Orton/H/Edge/Taker/Batista. You can only shuffle the matchups so many times before we've seen everything. I think that's why so many are getting behind Punk, he's a new contender.

I've found myself losing some interest over the last month, but it's moreso because NFL season has begun. I'm more focused on watching the games, playing with my fantasy lineups, and playing Madden than tuning into Raw.

[gbx34]

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For me wrestling was best in the 1994-1999. When you had DX with Billy Gunn and Road Dogg, Stone Cold, The Rock, etc. for the WWF and the WCW had N.W.O and the Four Horseman (Flair, Benoit, McMichaels Malenko). It's been all down hill ever since.

Thats how i see it. It has lost all of its edge and not nearly as entertaining. It seemed more then "just a show" it seems like things mattered to people.

[jeremym480]

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Thats how i see it. It has lost all of its edge and not nearly as entertaining. It seemed more then "just a show" it seems like things mattered to people.

Yeah, I when I was a Senior in HS I remember having Monday Night Raw parties when my parents were out of town. I remember keeping the remote in my hand and just using the "flashback" button on the remote so, I could flip it back and fourth between the two shows. I remember going to school the next day and everyone talking about the Show the night before. But, like I said that was the glory days of wrestling for me.. And I just don't ever see it getting back like that.