Survivor Series 2011 - 11/20/11

[Molarmite]

Re: Survivor Series 2011 - 11/20/11

So Cena is put in a position where he needs a partner and needs help to take on Miz and R truth and he picks someone who hates him and cost him the wwe championship at wrestlemania? I wonder how many times in their writers meetings the phrase "It doesn't have to make sense, it's wrestling" is said?

Not to mention that he's fed up with Miz and Truth so he wants to destroy them, outside of Austin and Taker, is there anyone else on the roster who could essentially guarantee a victory, kayfabe wise of course?

[Santino]

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With Punk busy with Del Rio and Triple H being injured by Nash, it makes perfect sense for Cena to choose the guy who has been hyping his Survivor Series appearance for weeks now.

[fpac]

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Not to mention that he's fed up with Miz and Truth so he wants to destroy them, outside of Austin and Taker, is there anyone else on the roster who could essentially guarantee a victory, kayfabe wise of course?

Well since Cena dominated both of them by himself he doesn't really seem to need a partner. Hopefully they do a good job of building up the hatred between Rock/Cena and them not being able to trust each other to at least make it seem like Miz and Truth have a chance.

[soltrain]

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Well since Cena dominated both of them by himself he doesn't really seem to need a partner. Hopefully they do a good job of building up the hatred between Rock/Cena and them not being able to trust each other to at least make it seem like Miz and Truth have a chance.

It's just so hard for me to believe Miz and Truth are a threat. They seemed like they were at HIAC. But after that they went back to their goofy rapping/funny guy angle. It doesn't really work when they come out rapping to the crowd and I'm supposed to believe they are taking over the entire federation.

[Streets]

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It's just so hard for me to believe Miz and Truth are a threat. They seemed like they were at HIAC. But after that they went back to their goofy rapping/funny guy angle. It doesn't really work when they come out rapping to the crowd and I'm supposed to believe they are taking over the entire federation.

Because they rap and are funny, they're not a threat? They still cut their "hostile takeover" promos, viciously attacked Cena and Punk at Vengeance, won their match, and have continued to be booked great since HIAC. Cena is "funny" (read: corny as hell) and is always cracking jokes. Is he not a threat? Or did you like him better before when he was a rapping WWE champion... oh wait...


I'm hoping they turn Cena at Survivor Series. I know I've been saying it for years and it will never happen, but it would be awesome. Rock goes to make the hot tag and Cena just leaves him there. Awesome Truth decimate the Great One and win the match.

Awesome Truth get a huge rub beating two of the biggest faces of the company ever and complain that they still aren't getting pushed like they are (furthering the conspiracy angle).

Cena comes out the next night to the loudest chorus of boos ever (he just points to the shirt). He says, first of all Rock, while you were making movies living it up in Hollywood, I've been here in the trenches dealing with these two-on-one beatdowns nightly trying to stave off a hostile takeover of a company you claim to love... so welcome to my world. Last night was just a piece.

Second, you all boo me, but when the Rock verbally attacks me... via satellite of course, for no reason whatsoever... and THEN costs me the thing I hold most dear to my heart on the grandest stage of them all, you all eat it up an chant his name louder! (fans chant Rocky). The way I see it, it's an eye for an eye Rock. You think this Wrestlemania match of ours is some fun little exhibition!? No. I'm coming to hurt you and I don't give a damn what people think (Drops the mic, fans boo, he points to the shirt).

Cena, making valid points, continues to be the hero in his own mind, but the edge with which he cuts his promos and the venom he spits at the crowd holding a mirror up to their hypocrisy (cheering the Rock but booing Cena for doing the same thing and enacting revenge) begins the slow turn.

After Rock collects his check and goes back to quadrupling it in Hollywood, you can move on to face Punk and Orton vs. Cena. Both have been done, but never with Cena in the heel role.

[Santino]

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I honestly thought that Cena being a walking poster board for the anti-bullying campaign would end all the heel turn scenarios for a while.

[soltrain]

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Because they rap and are funny, they're not a threat? They still cut their "hostile takeover" promos, viciously attacked Cena and Punk at Vengeance, won their match, and have continued to be booked great since HIAC. Cena is "funny" (read: corny as hell) and is always cracking jokes. Is he not a threat? Or did you like him better before when he was a rapping WWE champion... oh wait...

I wasn't watching when he was a rapping WWE Champ. And Cena, too, is lame.

I just wish Truth and Miz would have dropped the "funny" stuff when their part of the angle started happening, that's all. Like when Laurinititis brought them back and Miz came out and said "We'reeee Bacccckkkk" was lame. They should have came out, been serious, and just continued to destroy people.

[Streets]

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I wasn't watching when he was a rapping WWE Champ. And Cena, too, is lame.

I just wish Truth and Miz would have dropped the "funny" stuff when their part of the angle started happening, that's all. Like when Laurinititis brought them back and Miz came out and said "We'reeee Bacccckkkk" was lame. They should have came out, been serious, and just continued to destroy people.

I didn't ask if Cena was lame, I asked if you view him as a threat. Considering he holds a record for most WWE title reigns and always overcomes the odds, I'll save you the trouble of answering. The question was rhetorical.

And turning Miz and Truth into one-dimensional, vanilla heels who destroy everything in their path would get really old. Keep them destroying everything in their path, but have Truth continue to whine about conspiracies and act crazy, have Miz continue his trademark "annoying douche that people would love to punch in real life" act, and for the love of god, keep having them play off one another because their chemistry is through the roof. I liked Del Rio when he was smiling and winking, then breaking people's arms. Or Swagger when he was a smiley, arrogant jock who would do pushups, run laps, then destroy you. Or take it back to the milk-drinking nerd Kurt Angle who despite being an super dork, was a monster in the ring. Or one of the greatest tag teams of all time in Edge and Christian, high-fiving, saying "totally awesome", and doing 5 second poses.

My point is not everyone needs to be early Batista (bland boring bully of a villain before he picked up the primadonna gimmick). I actually like personality and nuances with my bad *** heels. I say they're being booked great, but of course it's my opinion.

[goh]

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Bourne's down for it btw (from twitter)...

Love that the Headbangers want to challenge AirBoom. Attitude Era vs Altitude Era!

[rangerrick012]

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The Headbangers? Haven't heard that name in what, 15 years. Making me feel old lol.

[jvalverde88]

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I honestly thought that Cena being a walking poster board for the anti-bullying campaign would end all the heel turn scenarios for a while.

Especially since the new shirt has the Be a star logo on the sleeves.

[skinnybonez]

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Dear WWE, teaming SuperCena up w/Rock won't stop the boos esp. in MSG. Stop forcing it, SMH

[rangerrick012]

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Dear WWE, teaming SuperCena up w/Rock won't stop the boos esp. in MSG. Stop forcing it, SMH

You really think WWE cares about Cena getting booed at this point? It's been happening for going on 5 years now and they still haven't turned him or changed his character drastically.

[Molarmite]

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Very interesting, HHH is out 6 weeks with a broken vertabrae, I'm curious to see how this plays out now.

[Mercury112491]

Re: Survivor Series 2011 - 11/20/11

is that according to WWE.com or a dirt sheet?