The CPU reversals are out of control!

[Therebelyell626]

Granted I am playing the daniel Bryan showcase and it could be a showcase thing. But the CPU is so good at reversals to the point I cannot even complete the tasks. Hopefully this isn't a gamewide thing because if so they gameplay will be you and the CPU reversing each other until either one of your reversals stock is depleted and that person gets the upper hand.

Also it's early but the controls really don't feel good. There is something that makes you feel like you really don't have control of your wrestler. I really can't describe it.

I need a couple of days to explore, but right now I am disappointed and feel like this game had taken a step back. But like I said I may need a couple of days to get used to it

[and1product]

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I disagree, out of the box the game plays amazing. It took me a while to get use to all the new mechanics but the learning curb and the difficulty is now great. I am playing on hard and eventually will bump it up to legend. The controls feel so good and it has weight to it. This is by far the best wwe 2k game if not the best wrestling game IMO. I cannot put it down and I have had it since last Thursday. I actually put down Fire pro and did not even open up my Assassins creed or Forza and have been straight playing this game. Too many possibilities in this game. GAMEPLAY is fire.

[Levistick]

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I somewhat agree with OP and somewhat disagree with OP.

I have only been playing Universe Mode, and granted I have had a couple matches where the reversals are quite frequent, it doesn't feel any different to me than it has in recent years.

In fact, I think I mostly agree with the poster above me that this might be the best feel I've experienced in WWE2K so far.

I am playing on Legend, and in standard 1 on 1 matches, some of them do end up being squash matches in my favor, but some of them have been good, competitive back and forth showdowns. In Universe Mode, since I want to be in control of the booking, I like knowing that I likely have the upper hand, so I can control who is being pushed, but also knowing that I could lose, so that it doesn't become so routine and mundane.

The reversal supply is also something that adds an element of strategy to my matches. I have to be aware of my opponent's reversals, and it has me saving certain moves for key moments. Which does lend an element of realism as well, since matches aren't (typically) just hitting your finisher ASAP. I will actually have to wear down my opponent, and then hit the finisher at just the right time. Lends more realism to the match, and makes the finishers more impactful.

[Therebelyell626]

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Honestly the game feels more arcade than it has ever been under 2k. It seems like they felt the simulation elements weren't "fun" and dialed it back a bit. Multi man matches are a nightmare on legend. The roll outs from last year were greatly reduced and opponents just don't stay down very long.

I honestly liked how Mathew played out like they did on tv last year, and had a realistic flow. They obviously want to take this game in a more arcade direction. Those are just my observations.

On a side note I have gotten used to the knew controls and they do feel good and responsive. But the elimination of certain simulation elements is dissapointing

[and1product]

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Honestly the game feels more arcade than it has ever been under 2k. It seems like they felt the simulation elements weren't "fun" and dialed it back a bit. Multi man matches are a nightmare on legend. The roll outs from last year were greatly reduced and opponents just don't stay down very long.

I honestly liked how Mathew played out like they did on tv last year, and had a realistic flow. They obviously want to take this game in a more arcade direction. Those are just my observations.

On a side note I have gotten used to the knew controls and they do feel good and responsive. But the elimination of certain simulation elements is dissapointing

They did that because a lot of people complained about how boring the game was and how slow it was. They added more arcade aspect to it while maintaining the Simulation aspect which is fine. It is a videogame and it should not be boring. I don't think there is any wrestling game out there that has more of a simulation atmosphere to it than WWE 2k. It has to also be fun, it also needs longevity and it also needs to be more realistic. I think that is what they are going with this.

The controls are second to none. It just feels good. I don't know. How does the controls and the features compare to Firepro or No Mercy?

[Therebelyell626]

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They did that because a lot of people complained about how boring the game was and how slow it was. They added more arcade aspect to it while maintaining the Simulation aspect which is fine. It is a videogame and it should not be boring. I don't think there is any wrestling game out there that has more of a simulation atmosphere to it than WWE 2k. It has to also be fun, it also needs longevity and it also needs to be more realistic. I think that is what they are going with this.

The controls are second to none. It just feels good. I don't know. How does the controls and the features compare to Firepro or No Mercy?

The controls feel good now that I am used to the new flow to be honest.

The game was fun for me and lots of others last year. Taking something out or adjusting it to make it more arcade so that it is "fun" is not good move on their part. At least their is sliders to help tailor the game to our liking. If people didn't like the simulation aspects then give them and arcade mode to appease them. 2K adds a lot of great features to make the game realistic and give a good representation of what we see on TV and then remove these features the very next year because kids complain. They did the same thing with chain wrestling last year.

[Levistick]

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imo, I don't feel the game is arcade at all. In fact, the game as a whole feels more or less the same as it has since I've been playing yearly since Smackdown vs. Raw 2011. Of course there have been some changes, natural evolution and a new console generation, but all in all I don't notice a more arcade style take at all. What specifically comes across as more arcade style to you?

[and1product]

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imo, I don't feel the game is arcade at all. In fact, the game as a whole feels more or less the same as it has since I've been playing yearly since Smackdown vs. Raw 2011. Of course there have been some changes, natural evolution and a new console generation, but all in all I don't notice a more arcade style take at all. What specifically comes across as more arcade style to you?

I agree with you as well but to answer your question, it has to do with the pacing. It has been sped up tremendously and I like it. It is slow and sluggish and robotic anymore. To a lot, fast pace equals more arcade oriented. Also the features like Big head mode instead of putting something more realistic like Ambulance match or Special ref.

The controls could be better if they had a separate strike reversal. That would make it more of a guessing game.

[Therebelyell626]

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I agree with you as well but to answer your question, it has to do with the pacing. It has been sped up tremendously and I like it. It is slow and sluggish and robotic anymore. To a lot, fast pace equals more arcade oriented. Also the features like Big head mode instead of putting something more realistic like Ambulance match or Special ref.

The controls could be better if they had a separate strike reversal. That would make it more of a guessing game.

You and Levi stick might be right. I might just need to get used to the new pacing. But multi man matches have definitely taken a step back. I felt the roll out system last year was implemented very well. This year roll outs don't happen nearly as often and guys get up waaaaaayyyyyy to quickly when they do roll out.

Overall I am liking this years game. I don't want to make anyone think I don't. I have actually been playing career mode exclusively so far and o have never played a single career mode in wwe 2k games. I also completed the DB showcase. I hope to complete the my career mode this week and actually get to start my universe.

Just out of curiosity does anyone know how many chapters there are in career mode?

[MCSavage]

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So what should I focus to become better at this reversal thing? I am also playing Daniel Bryan's Showcase and got to The Miz, who keeps reversing everything, especially the things the game gives me as missions. He always has a reversal ready and if I get into a reversal fight with him, it is just... horribly boring.

Can I adjust the sliders in the Showcase?

[and1product]

Re: The CPU reversals are out of control!

So what should I focus to become better at this reversal thing? I am also playing Daniel Bryan's Showcase and got to The Miz, who keeps reversing everything, especially the things the game gives me as missions. He always has a reversal ready and if I get into a reversal fight with him, it is just... horribly boring.

Can I adjust the sliders in the Showcase?

Play more exhibition matches on normal or easy till you feel like nobody can stop you in the game and the reversals down. Then move it up. If the showcase gets hard, it has a difficulty setting. Some people just are quicker at reversing than others. It may take time but you will not remember this once you keep playing the game.

[and1product]

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You and Levi stick might be right. I might just need to get used to the new pacing. But multi man matches have definitely taken a step back. I felt the roll out system last year was implemented very well. This year roll outs don't happen nearly as often and guys get up waaaaaayyyyyy to quickly when they do roll out.

Overall I am liking this years game. I don't want to make anyone think I don't. I have actually been playing career mode exclusively so far and o have never played a single career mode in wwe 2k games. I also completed the DB showcase. I hope to complete the my career mode this week and actually get to start my universe.

Just out of curiosity does anyone know how many chapters there are in career mode?

I think you got use to it a lot from last year. I can tell you love realistic games. The roll out was complained about too from casuals last year. They hated the fact that the action in the ring was limited and wanted more opportunities to pummel people before getting the roll out.

To me it is great that I don't roll out every time I get dropped and having to wait for the recovery button or the buff to get back in.

I guess the only way they can satisfy both sides is to copy Nba 2k formula and give us alll the sliders we need. From rollouts, more logic attributes like Nba 2k.

But if you notice when you play against the A.I. sometimes, They have specific personas like Kevin Owens always going out the ring when the match starts, or the Miz coward antics. Even in multi tag matches, The A.I. move over for the next partner to tag in. It is beautiful to see the little details.

[Therebelyell626]

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I think you got use to it a lot from last year. I can tell you love realistic games. The roll out was complained about too from casuals last year. They hated the fact that the action in the ring was limited and wanted more opportunities to pummel people before getting the roll out.

To me it is great that I don't roll out every time I get dropped and having to wait for the recovery button or the buff to get back in.

I guess the only way they can satisfy both sides is to copy Nba 2k formula and give us alll the sliders we need. From rollouts, more logic attributes like Nba 2k.

But if you notice when you play against the A.I. sometimes, They have specific personas like Kevin Owens always going out the ring when the match starts, or the Miz coward antics. Even in multi tag matches, The A.I. move over for the next partner to tag in. It is beautiful to see the little details.

Agreed. Seeing some of the character traits taking effect is very pleasing

[Levistick]

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Oh dang, I hadn't noticed those personality traits yet. I will have to keep an eye open for them.

[and1product]

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Oh dang, I hadn't noticed those personality traits yet. I will have to keep an eye open for them.

Yes Levistick, I picked curt axel and faced rusev and he squashed me. It was like 5 moves and I lost. It was fun. Then When you are getting the best of an A.I. opponent sometimes they get frustrated and go out the ring and start to pout. Or the cheaters will end the match with a chair.

Even if they have a manager and you are just destroying the opponent, the cpu manager will intentionally DQ the match.