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The NHL is back, do you care?

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# 1 devilsjaw @ 07/28/05 08:05 PM
Yes, very much. Everyone I've talked to about it seems excited. I think the lockout may have been the best thing to happen to the league in the longrun, as far as stabilizing the financials. October can't come soon enough!
# 2 VanCitySportsGuy @ 07/28/05 09:21 PM

I'm extremely pumped up about the upcoming season. I can't speak for other cities, but I can tell you the Canucks will be playing to a packed house everynight. The city is buzzing about hockey returning.

Call me a fool, but I'm ready to open my wallet to buy duckets.
# 3 roster19 @ 07/28/05 09:51 PM
Yes! The NHL's gonna have lots of scoring now, maybe even too much. I hope the NHL doesn't become the AFL on ice. It's a little stupid to be able to score on one play with ease in Arena football. It's also pretty sad that a hockey rink is over 50% bigger than an Arena football field(80ft vs 50ft).
# 4 slickdtc @ 07/28/05 10:03 PM
Of course. The Philadelphia Flyers are Stanley Cup contenders already. I'm pumped. I want to see how the first shootout goes!
# 5 Sully @ 07/28/05 10:23 PM
I definitely care. I didn't realize how much I missed it, until they announced the new CBA. I can't wait for October 5th!
# 6 APD0290 @ 07/28/05 10:42 PM
I voted that I don't care, but in a way I do, but only because the NHL will simply take up time on NESN Sportsdesk, ESPNEWS, Sportscenter, etc. I respect the opinions of those who like hockey, but it's not my cup of tea.
# 7 coffeeholic @ 07/28/05 11:16 PM
Sports....The more the merrier. Now,there pretty much will be something,somewhere on tv going on in the long nights of winter. BTW,did anyone enjoy the ESPN Hockey video game last year? I thought it rocked. Helped me through the no play season of reality.
# 8 TheMatrix31 @ 07/29/05 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by APD0290
I voted that I don't care, but in a way I do, but only because the NHL will simply take up time on NESN Sportsdesk, ESPNEWS, Sportscenter, etc. I respect the opinions of those who like hockey, but it's not my cup of tea.
Agreed 100%
# 9 Nivek @ 07/29/05 02:13 AM
# 10 SixerFan03 @ 07/29/05 08:55 AM
Originally Posted by slickdtc
Of course. The Philadelphia Flyers are Stanley Cup contenders already. I'm pumped. I want to see how the first shootout goes!

Let's Go Flyers.
# 11 coogrfan @ 07/29/05 09:12 AM
Not really, but I'm glad the puckheads out there will be able to get their fix again.
# 12 daflyboys @ 07/29/05 09:14 AM
More than you know. Hockey players and their athleticism/skill never cease to amaze me. This is a great, great sport!
# 13 luv_mist @ 07/29/05 09:22 AM
Originally Posted by coogrfan
Not really, but I'm glad the puckheads out there will be able to get their fix again.
My sentiments. Remember the NBA lockout & I know how it felt. Plus, my dad finally has something else to stay up for....
# 14 chevrock22 @ 07/29/05 09:24 AM
Is there something new in in NHL this year.
# 15 pk500 @ 07/29/05 09:27 AM
Absolutely! Man, I missed hockey last year.

Now we have labor peace, exciting new rules, Sidney Crosby, better competitive balance -- DROP THE PUCK!

Take care,
# 16 e0820 @ 07/29/05 10:09 AM
Originally Posted by Steve_OS
The NHL is back, do you care?
Im curious to see how the new rules play out and what players have stuck around.
# 17 KBomber @ 07/29/05 10:14 AM
THe NHL used to be about players who had a quiet nobility about them. If you know anything about the game, you understand that it is likely one of the most physically demanding and that the Stanley Cup Playoffs are more akin to a war of attrition than anything else found in pro sports.

Hockey players were the good guys. The nice guys who would fight like hell on the ice and then go for a beer together afterwards. They were the kinds of guys that you showed your kids and said, "That's a good way to be"

Something unpalatable started happening to pro hockey and the players that played it in around 10 to 15 years ago. They started to change. Oh sure, it wasn't immediately apparent, but if you blinked you could see it when you re-focused that something about the game was changing in a way that wasn't very good. There are a lot of reasons, some blamed the ice surface, some blamed the rules, some blamed expansion, some blamed the owners. There was blame, everywhere, to go around.

As the game changed and became a whole lot more ugly, the players seemed to also reflect that self-same quality. Suddenly, hockey players weren't the noble "warrior-poets" that, at least, I remembered. Suddenly they were guys like Alexei Yashin, playing when it suited him. Suddenly, they were guys like Chris Pronger and Jeremy Roenick, mouthing off like the fans somehow owed them and were beneath them. Suddenly the face of hockey was Todd Bertuzzi, doing things in the name of "The Code" that were beneath honour and used the mystical ambiguities of that term to, somehow, try to rationalize a brutality that, at its core, was not about sportsmanship or the game, but about agenda and heinous violence.

I played hockey for a good portion of my life. Hockey is core to Canada as a pursuit. It defines Canadians and is intricately woven through the fabric of the Canadian experiences of culture and identity. My family was involved with the NHL Oldtimers when guys from the Golden Age were fighting with the NHL and the NHLPA to have something other than memories to see them through their retirements. I've met a great many players from yesteryear and today and, as such, have some basis for comparing those generations. The new guys just don't cut it for me.

I turned off Gary Bettman's and Bob Goodenow's NHL in 2002. The game was hideous. The organization was hideous. The spirit was hideous. And the players were hideous. Sure there may be some good guys in the bunch, found in any of the camps responsible for the NHL and its product, but they are few and far between. Many of them will soon be retired. The NHL won't be back on my radar for any time that I can foresee. I have been successfully disenfranchised from the product and the personalities. To me, it is all a crappy mess. They have a long way to go to prove that it is anything but that to me, and I have other things to do.

Maybe if more "fans" were less like robotic drones and more like an enlightened market of consumers, then they would then be able to convey to the NHL that the brand needs rework through the only media that the NHL and NHLPA understands -- through their profits and losses. Maybe then, realistic and compelling change in the game could occur. But from the comments I see here, I only sense relief amongst the "drones", so happy to to receive whatever scraps he NHL offers from its table, as long as it means that Ron and Don can be seen on Coach's Corner in around 8:15 PM every Saturday night

Just because the NHL says it's the best game of hockey in town, doesn't mean that they're right.

Have fun.............
# 18 KBomber @ 07/29/05 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Troller
Sorrry man, but that was pure drivel. I'm from Tampa where the players are more connected to the community than in any hockeytown Iv'e ever lived.(NY, NJ,) There are so many "good guys" in hockey.........more than any of the 4 major sports. Hockey players "character comes under fire far less than NFL, NBA, or MLB. There are problems but far and few compared to say, the NBA. That is the product that has changed and become self-serving, dunk-fest uber-trash. The league is full of "me first" pot heads. How can you criticize the NHL for being an ugly game with ugly players with poor character when you have the NBA, NFL, And MLB that produce condone cancerous behavior on society all the time? T. owens, A.Iverson, K.Bryant, selfish, wife-beating, drug laced players abound in the other 3 leauges while the NHL has by far less isuues. Not zero, but NHL players character when compared to those other 3..........there really is no comparison. To say you grew up on hockey and be so blind to the positives of the sport is shameful. Calling everyone drones who appreciate the game of hockey and the NHL experience makes you a fool in every way.
I think you need to re-read my post. What I said was that I'm not and will not be an NHL fan. There is a massive difference in understanding the game of hockey and understanding the NHL version of the same.

Nice attempt at a flame war. Maybe next time get a little more conversant with the actual and stated point of what you are reading rather than your misguided interpretation

Have fun............
# 19 KBomber @ 07/29/05 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Troller
Calling people drones who support the Nhl isn't flaming......riiiiight. I addressed exactly what your first post described, no question about it. Nice attempt in ducking what you originally said.
Your username says it all. I'm done with you

Thanks for your comments, have a nice day

Have fun...........
# 20 slickdtc @ 07/29/05 01:08 PM
First off, I'm actually pretty surprised with the results. Currently, 75 people say they are ready to see the NHL come back, while 53 wouldn't care if it stayed away. At one point it was 17-17, and that disappointed me. I'm glad the "Yes!" is up.

And to address KBomber and Troller's comments. There are bad seeds in all sports. There are Yashin's in the NHL, just the same as their are Dampier's in the NBA. Guys who seem to play only for the money.

But to say that the majority of the players in the NHL (or any other sport for that matter) do it only for the money is downright bogus. These guys have worked their way up the ranks of hockey; from pee wees, to juniors to college or Elite Leagues in Europe, to the NHL. You can't be playing hockey that long just to get to the top to give up your passion and only play for the money.

It's not fair at all to label the majority of professional athletes money hungry jerks.

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