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The "Greathouse" patch for Backbreaker is now available for the PS3 and Xbox 360.

To find out what's in the patch, click here.

Here's some quick thoughts...

The CPU is better but could probably be even better. Time will tell on this one.
CPU can run. CPU can pass.
Sometimes the safeties just don't go after the ball resulting in an easy catch and other times they do. Probably has to do with focus ratings but doesn't look right when they sit back.
Instant replay is okay. It's not in the same league as WEs or NFL2k5 but after original version, you can see what's going on and have multiple views.
Teams may have been edited.

It looks like they did a bang up job! Time will tell on how it holds up.

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# 61 mgoblue678 @ 08/06/10 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by alliance4g63
Before I finish reading all the impressions I just wanted to ask why everyone has a problem with the CPU running a draw on 3rd and long?

It is a safe play to call instead of trying to force a pass that may result in a turnover. NFL coaches make this call alot. Hell the Cowboys call it on almost EVERY 3rd and long.
Well, I have a problem with it because I keep on seeing them call it on a 3rd and 10 or under. If they only called it on 3rd and really long I would understand, but when I see it multiple times on yardages like 3rd and 7 that is a problem. Not to mention most of the time it seems to get stuffed.

Anybody noticing the CPU run game still being lacking? Even on hard they can't seem to get anything going. Not sure what else can be done to get them to run better. Run blocking just doesn't seem to be there. Have almost held a couple RB's to negative yards rushing.

I finding I am stuck between hard and medium. Really like the CPU and Human Passing Game on Hard, but the CPU run defense is just all over me on hard.
 
# 62 opd897 @ 08/06/10 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by alliance4g63
Before I finish reading all the impressions I just wanted to ask why everyone has a problem with the CPU running a draw on 3rd and long?

It is a safe play to call instead of trying to force a pass that may result in a turnover. NFL coaches make this call alot. Hell the Cowboys call it on almost EVERY 3rd and
long.
Played one game so far with the patch and the results I see are amazing. Saw only a couple of draw plays by the CPU however one of them was genius. Third and long and they spread me out four wide with one back. Draw up the middle and went for a first down.

As others have said the game is more difficult now but in a good way. No more trucking over teams, even on the medium setting. I played on medium and used one of my NFL teams against Anaheim, an average team. Five minute quarters and I got beat 24-14. They scored a touchdown in the last minute because I went for an onside kick and they recovered so really one could say it was 17-14. Both teams rushed for around 60 yards and passed for around 130. One interception by each team.

You can no longer throw into coverage and think about it being completed. But now you have time to switch receivers, something that was nearly impossible pre-patch.

My running back fumbled the ball a couple of times and I lost one of them and it probably cost me the game as I was on a pretty good drive.

Game plays much better now and a big thanks goes out to Natural Motion!
 
# 63 WOMACK8111 @ 08/06/10 01:41 PM
can someone please post the patch for us non-live users. thank you
 
# 64 opd897 @ 08/06/10 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WOMACK8111
can someone please post the patch for us non-live users. thank you
Not sure that can be done, at least I wouldn't know how to do it. If you have a friend with live you might try taking your hard drive and your game to his house see if that would work.
 
# 65 WOMACK8111 @ 08/06/10 01:50 PM
thanks for the info will check it out
 
# 66 Delray @ 08/06/10 02:00 PM
I just want to thank the BB team and everyone associated with this patch for all of your hard work and dedication! You guys have really taken a step foward in the right direction and I can't wait to see your next installment! I have to say I'm really liking this game a lot. I've played 3 games so far and have seen only 2 total int's and only a handful of sacks. There's some issues coming up on the boards about dropped passes.....yea there's more than before....but I like it! I'll take 3-4 drop passes instead of 3-4 int's anyday!

I'm so glad I have a football game to play this year! Thank You!
 
# 67 Klocker @ 08/06/10 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by WOMACK8111
can someone please post the patch for us non-live users. thank you
take your xbox to an internet connection anywhere, (use the included cat 5 cable) sign up for a FREE silver account (takes 5 minutes and need email address) and start the game... 30 seconds later you can go back to offline with the patch

good luck
 
# 68 elgreazy1 @ 08/06/10 02:30 PM
Things I've noticed (as others have as well):
* Better CPU AI on both Offense & Defense
* CPU Punting is far better
* Crowd seems to have more variance
* QB cam lifted slightly - never had a problem with old cam so happy they didn't change it too much
* Added formations really adds a completely new layer of strategy & gameplanning to game & team builds/schemes
* Love that POD's song is only on opening & halftime kickoffs - got annoying.
* RB user collision is much better

Overall it's turned a game that I really enjoyed before into an even more solid product. I hope the review sites go about re-reviewing this one because the Greathouse patch has really changed the way the game plays. I'm not surprised as to what NM did here seeing as I've been following this game since the onset, but for them to have been able to release such a wide-affecting patch on such a small file size shows how truly great this game engine is and can be. Cant' wait to see what additional add-ons, patches or new innovations they add down the line.

Now I really, really have to get on making some custom teams seeing as I'll be playing the heck out of this more. I just don't have the time to make them. Argh
 
# 69 videlsports @ 08/06/10 03:00 PM
This is a really good patch. Love this game. I don't need to buy madden. I have college and Backbreaker(NFL). More plays, better physics, better gameplay. I love this game.
 
# 70 swaldo @ 08/06/10 03:17 PM
The new QB camera has completely ruined my experience and I cannot play this game in the current state! Hated the QB cam before the patch, and I hate it even more after the patch.

The camera still needs to be raised more IMO and if my TE (who's just a few feet away) is running a quick crossing pattern why does the camera now swing all the way to the left? Half of my view is behind the LOS for crying out loud! Meanwhile, my TE is running to the right side so it doesn't help when my head is jerked all the way to the left so I can't even see what the LB's are doing! The "check blitz" LB button can help but if you have to switch recievers then it jerks and makes me disoriented.

You need to see the middle of the field right after snap to check for blitzers and peek at the safeties! This should be automatic for a split second, you shouldn't have to hold a button. Then the camera would automatically pan over to your primary reciever, but not to the point where we are seeing 30 yards behind his back! The camera should be looking out in front where he will be running towards.

There is nothing "instinctive" about passing, there's way too much worrying about button presses. I was so happy to hear about this major patch, but meh! And yes I know there are work-arounds such as click & hold LB right after the snap, or switching to a primary reciever who's route goes into the middle of the field. I'm just using this play as an example, IMO the camera is too jarring and I don't want to have to think about work-arounds when I have 5 recievers going in different directions on a crucial 3rd and 7.

The text and images below came from the BB forums and I agree completely...

"What is happening now is that the reciever is in the middle of your view instead of at the bottom. so now i hardly see anything infront of the reciever when i snap the ball. So i cant see a linebacker sneaking back into zone to jump an in/slant route, i cant see if the safety drops back into zone 2 or 3 or if he steps up, i cant see if the linebackers blitz me, all i can see is 15 yards behind the WR and 15 yard directly in front of him. i cannot now see any of the middle of the field. I need to be able to keep one eye on the coverage in the first 2 seconds of the snap. I cant do this with the new camera. and I cant do it pressing L1 because its disorientating. the camera they had before...I could see alot more of the field as the play developed."

View before patch:

http://forum.backbreakergame.com/att...8&d=1281045264

View after patch:

http://forum.backbreakergame.com/att...7&d=1281045235
 
# 71 Wazzer99 @ 08/06/10 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by allBthere
... my game froze near the end of the 2nd quarter during a defensive audible ...
Were you continuing from a season / RTBB pre-patch save?

I *think* if you are doing that, then you might just need to re-assign your audibles, as it looks like the new plays that were added have resulted in some mismatch with old savegames - meaning your defensive audibles could have actually been offensive plays!
 
# 72 Sik kid Pk @ 08/06/10 03:29 PM
I think they unlocked some stadiums too because i have the revolution dome and another stadium and i've never played RTBB to unlock anything.
 
# 73 Delray @ 08/06/10 04:01 PM
My dropped passes have almost completely disappeared since starting a season. I think I had only 1 last game....and it was a bad throw.
 
# 74 MiNiDiTkA @ 08/06/10 04:09 PM
Thought I'd post this here so it doest get lost in all the other threads. Need more time before I can make a solid impression on the patch.

Greathouse Extended Gameplay Video + Pics

Steelers vs Browns - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6mis7f2PHI

Working on a comparison video of before and after the patch and more gameplay videos and pics.



















 
# 75 pigdog @ 08/06/10 04:34 PM
Is there a speed setting for replays? Its like the Keystone cops its so speeded up.
And when the QB drops back hes already locked on the primary receiver now instead of forward?
 
# 76 chrome_305 @ 08/06/10 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pigdog
Is there a speed setting for replays? Its like the Keystone cops its so speeded up.
And when the QB drops back hes already locked on the primary receiver now instead of forward?
If your push the pause button to stop it than hold the Fwd button down it plays slower.Try jump back and fourth between the pause and play button.That's what I have been doing so far.
 
# 77 alliance4g63 @ 08/06/10 04:55 PM
So is anyone still playing online? If you are, are you using a custom team from RTBB/Season or just one of the current teams?

I want to use my RTBB team but they are so weak. It seems like it will take me forever to get a decent team to take online.
 
# 78 opd897 @ 08/06/10 05:17 PM
Played a second game. Jets vs Nashville Predators (a lower rated team). Nashville moved the ball on me pretty well even though I was playing on the medium setting. Predators went up by a field goal and I was having problems running the ball at all but started hitting some passes. Was up 10-3 at half time.

Second half I hit a 44 yard bomb to Brad Smith that set up a field goal. Thing of beauty between two defenders. Predators had a long drive and put it in the endzone for 6, lighting me up with the passing game.

Finally started to get the running game going a bit in the 4th quarter with the T-formation. Was having some success and scored with a halfback pitch out of this formation and went 16 yard for the touchdown. I think I could have went 90 yards as I caught the Predators in an inside linebacker blitz. The free camera replay showed some great blocks on this run.

Won the game 24-13 but was actually out gained 239-219. Here's the real kicker...........NO turnovers by either side!
 
# 79 LingeringRegime @ 08/06/10 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiNiDiTkA
Thought I'd post this here so it doest get lost in all the other threads. Need more time before I can make a solid impression on the patch.

Greathouse Extended Gameplay Video + Pics

Steelers vs Browns - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6mis7f2PHI

Working on a comparison video of before and after the patch and more gameplay videos and pics.



















Those are some nice screen shots man. What camera do you use?
 
# 80 MiNiDiTkA @ 08/06/10 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
Those are some nice screen shots man. What camera do you use?
Combination of Avermedia Avertv HD DVR and Fraps. Another video and a few more pics.

Breaking down a few plays - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFWLy5cHAc

























 


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