05:16 PM - February 18, 2016 by ChaseB
The MLB The Show 16 Twitch stream has begun, as the team talks about Diamond Dynasty. Post your thoughts!
UPDATE: For those of you that missed the stream, you can watch the archive here.
MLB The Show 16 News Post
05:16 PM - February 18, 2016 by ChaseBThe MLB The Show 16 Twitch stream has begun, as the team talks about Diamond Dynasty. Post your thoughts!
UPDATE: For those of you that missed the stream, you can watch the archive here.
MLB The Show 16 Videos
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# 21
baseballsim @ 02/18/16 07:44 PM
I have a couple questions:
1. What time in the day will Inside Edge take effect? Will the player update changes kick in at 12 AM or something?
2. If you remove a tired pitcher from your roster will his fatigue stay in effect.
3. Can position players become fatigued? In the stream it they mentioned the word "players" but didn't elaborate if they were referring to pitchers only.
1. What time in the day will Inside Edge take effect? Will the player update changes kick in at 12 AM or something?
2. If you remove a tired pitcher from your roster will his fatigue stay in effect.
3. Can position players become fatigued? In the stream it they mentioned the word "players" but didn't elaborate if they were referring to pitchers only.
Looks like they've shored up a lot of the loopholes with DD from last year.
I never played it last year but I'm honestly intrigued now. It seems like it's really a level playing field, the only difference being that a user may have a better team/player than me mainly because he's played the game more.
I never played it last year but I'm honestly intrigued now. It seems like it's really a level playing field, the only difference being that a user may have a better team/player than me mainly because he's played the game more.
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Victor_SDS @ 02/18/16 08:03 PM
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2: Yes. You can't have a collection where you cycle out Davis every 3 games and then bring in Kimbrel. Players will need to remain in your roster to regain energy.
3: No. Fatigue is for relief pitchers (RPs and CPs).
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I wonder where that number is being derived from? bwar is 50.4 and fwar is 46.1 I hope they go into detail with stats - that should be its own stream.
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Excited about the possibility of uniforms carrying over. It's was a pain in the petunia to design my unis. Hope they can get it in the the last minute. Another example of listening to their clientele. These guys are great.
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# 31
HustlinOwl @ 02/18/16 09:32 PM
with the ability to now play friends in DD, I am starting to think about how a OS league/ladder system could work via "Daddy Leagues"
I am very curious about how their WAR calculation will play out. I am assuming that their stats might be coming from Inside Edge, but as far as I know they don't put out any public WAR stats. Looking at it it does seem to lean a bit more offensively than Fangraphs and more towards BR when you look at other offensive/DH type players similar to Ortiz. It also looks a bit odd that it is to two decimal places, but that may just be to differentiate it from fWAR and bWAR.
What matters though is how they calculate this with user generated stats. i.e. Simmed franchise, RTTS, etc. I'm assuming that the calculation they are using must only use the stats (or ratings) that the game can track other wise it would be useless to have career WAR.
edit: Just watched the stream. Definitely not happy if classic stadiums will be available in ranked DD games. I was surprised when that came up since they seemed to spend a lot of time talking about making sure people can't exploit the missions and rewards systems, but with 279 and 258 ft down the lines I wonder which stadium people will use to boost offensive missions/stats. But most of all I'm sure many people here remember on PS3 how often you had to play at Polo Grounds. It just gets boring to play there so often. Hopefully the classic stadiums will be rare and expensive to buy so people won't want to spend stubs on them and Polo will come up less often. I love that they are in the game, but I don't like them for ranked online modes.
What matters though is how they calculate this with user generated stats. i.e. Simmed franchise, RTTS, etc. I'm assuming that the calculation they are using must only use the stats (or ratings) that the game can track other wise it would be useless to have career WAR.
edit: Just watched the stream. Definitely not happy if classic stadiums will be available in ranked DD games. I was surprised when that came up since they seemed to spend a lot of time talking about making sure people can't exploit the missions and rewards systems, but with 279 and 258 ft down the lines I wonder which stadium people will use to boost offensive missions/stats. But most of all I'm sure many people here remember on PS3 how often you had to play at Polo Grounds. It just gets boring to play there so often. Hopefully the classic stadiums will be rare and expensive to buy so people won't want to spend stubs on them and Polo will come up less often. I love that they are in the game, but I don't like them for ranked online modes.
# 33
WaitTilNextYear @ 02/18/16 11:00 PM
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I could be wrong, but after looking at the David Ortiz player card screenshot that has been floating around, there don't appear to be any legit defensive metrics present that you could even base a dWAR component on. I mean, it makes sense, because you need human eyeballs watching players to come up with defensive values for things like UZR, DRS, etc... at present. It would be interesting to see if they've concocted a "poor man's dWAR" based solely on things the video game can measure such as RF, FLD %, total chances, assists, ratings, historical stats, player comps, and positional eligibility. In theory, using enough data, they could potentially engineer something that approximates a defensive valuation in lieu of dWAR, UZR, DRS...etc. Now it will be interesting if the WAR we're seeing on these screens is more of an oWAR with a few fudge factors thrown in (replacement, positional, and baserunning adjustments) or if it's a bonafide attempt at doing WAR right. It's not so important they get accurate to the nearest 0.01, but if they can properly account for defense (some regular players get nearly all of their value from defense) and get within a few tenths (say 4.3 vs 3.9 type of accuracy); that would be pretty huge.
Now, adding these "advanced" stats is only cosmetic if the game's logic, especially in franchise mode, doesn't factor in this data to make decisions. It would be a huge disappointment if SCEA added WAR only to have the AI basically ignore it and fixate on HRs, RBIs, ERA and so forth. So, if WAR is in there, the AI should be basing trade proposals, roster moves, HoF decisions, All Star voting etc... on it, at least in part.
In my view, one lesson SCEA could learn from OOTP with respect to front office and roster management is to have user-selectable emphases on different ways to value players. Perhaps you could even build this setting into profile management. Options for roster management could be "sabermetric," "conventional," and maybe another option that's a hybrid. The "sabermetric" option would make team AI value things like WAR, $$/WAR, and OBP more heavily in AI evaluations and the conventional could put more emphasis on ratings/tools, and baseball card stats. I think it would be important to have options because not everyone agrees with sabermetric theory. Just an idea for down the road as they put more and more customization in to deepen franchise mode.
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Completely agree that if the AI does not take WAR and any new advanced metrics into account they will be useless, hence the my use of the superfluous. I want to see a team start a player with a worse overall rating who is putting up a solid WAR due to either defense or other statistical factors. I want to see a player like Kiermaier be valued very high by the AI in the way that players like him, Simmons or Russell, are highly valued by teams across the MLB.
I turned on the stream about halfway through this afternoon and skimmed back through it after, so, I'm not sure if this was covered. Was there any mention of additions to name/number styles for our Diamond Dynasty uniforms?
im getting really excited for 16 now, i may have to book some days off work to get right into the game when it releases.
# 37
geisterhome @ 02/19/16 01:23 AM
Is there anything to get out of that stream for somebody who thinks modes like DD is solely for kids?
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# 38
baseballsim @ 02/19/16 02:07 AM
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Also, balks were OFF in MLB15 but will be ON in 16. This was mentioned in another stream, though.
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Since both players play with the same difficulty I've never had an issue with it in DD. It always seemed fair to me. This year it might prevent newer players from ever making up to higher leagues if everytime they reach a new tier they immediately get knocked down again due to the difficulty spike between levels.
# 40
ScouserHUN @ 02/19/16 03:10 AM
I love the changes they made to Diamond Dynasty.
As for the higher tax for selling cards, I don't see a problem there. The market is goint to adjust and there will be a bigger difference between sell now & buy now prices.
Great!
As for the higher tax for selling cards, I don't see a problem there. The market is goint to adjust and there will be a bigger difference between sell now & buy now prices.
Great!
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