The Official Lost Season 4 Thread - Page 2

Draft Dodger · 02-01-2008, 08:09 AM

oh, and I absolutely LOVE this site: http://themisfitishere.blogspot.com/

I don't know what is funnier - the content, or the comments from clueless idiots.

Toddzilla · 02-01-2008, 08:15 AM

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here's an interesting screenshot...

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boooooo

Aylmar · 02-01-2008, 08:18 AM

Please let Hurley be wrong about Jack being right. I don't want Jack to be right about anything. I despise that character. It's amazing that the writers can come up with all these great and deep support characters and then botch Jack so badly. Or maybe it's just the way Fox portrays him. Sometimes when I watch I think that the writers are taking certain directions because he's got such limited range.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-01-2008, 08:20 AM

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Please let Hurley be wrong about Jack being right. I don't want Jack to be right about anything. I despise that character. It's amazing that the writers can come up with all these great and deep support characters and then botch Jack so badly. Or maybe it's just the way Fox portrays him. Sometimes when I watch I think that the writers are taking certain directions because he's got such limited range.

I am no fan of Jack, but I don't think anyone "botched" Jack. I think he's just a deeply flawed individual. I actually like what they've done with him. At the outset of the show, it really seemed like things were setting up in a traditional fashion: Jack and Kate, the hero and heroine. Sawyer, the rogue. Locke, the mysterious X-Factor.

I really like how they've pushed these characters somewhat beyond these traditional roles and have brought out the strengths and weaknesses of each.

CleBrownsfan · 02-01-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

here's an interesting screenshot...

Spoiler

Broken linky?

gottimd · 02-01-2008, 08:26 AM

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Broken linky?

If you quote his link, the correct one shows up.

Draft Dodger · 02-01-2008, 08:28 AM

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Broken linky?

is it broken? it's working for me.

I found it here: http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/

Aylmar · 02-01-2008, 08:35 AM

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I am no fan of Jack, but I don't think anyone "botched" Jack. I think he's just a deeply flawed individual. I actually like what they've done with him. At the outset of the show, it really seemed like things were setting up in a traditional fashion: Jack and Kate, the hero and heroine. Sawyer, the rogue. Locke, the mysterious X-Factor.

I really like how they've pushed these characters somewhat beyond these traditional roles and have brought out the strengths and weaknesses of each.

Eh. I would agree with you for the other characters mentioned. I just think Jack is by far the weakest character on the show. I think it has more to do with the actor than the writing or story, though, so I shouldn't have blamed the writers. I hope they don't get wind of this and extend the strike!

Ragone · 02-01-2008, 08:35 AM

No way thats hurley in the casket.. the casket wasn't quite big enough...

Besides all that, i'd think Kate wouldn't have had a problem going to Hurley's funeral.

I'm leaning towards that casket being juliette

Suburban Rhythm · 02-01-2008, 08:53 AM

On the theme of the Oceanic 6, my wife and I were talking it through last night. We know Kate, Jack and Hurley are 3 of the 6. One of the remaining three is possibly Sawyer, as Kate mentions "he'll be looking for me" when they meet at the airport in Jack's flash forward. Desmond would not be one, as he was not on the flight. Charlie is shark food.

I say one of the remaining people is Locke. Seems odd that he would leave the island, but he makes the most sense to me for who was in the coffin, with no other visitors, and Kate's "Why would I go?" Locke is the one fighting Jack to stay, and him going to the funeral was his way of saying that Locke was right all along.

Draft Dodger · 02-01-2008, 09:03 AM

I have a hard time picturing Locke leaving. I could see it being Sawyer or, perhaps, Ben.

Lathum · 02-01-2008, 09:09 AM

Last season I thought it was Ben in the casket.

Swaggs · 02-01-2008, 09:46 AM

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Last season I thought it was Ben in the casket.

I think it is either Ben, Michael, or Walt.

DanGarion · 02-01-2008, 09:55 AM

FYI there are rumors/spoilers as to who all 6 of the Oceanic 6 are if you look around enough.

Easy Mac · 02-01-2008, 09:57 AM

juliet

JetsIn06 · 02-01-2008, 09:59 AM

I have a feeling Claire, the baby, and Sawyer are the 6. Sawyer goes with Kate...based on my feeling that it was Sawyer who Kate had to go back to at the end of season 3.

And remember Desmond's vision? Doesn't he see Claire getting on a helicopter>

rkmsuf · 02-01-2008, 10:00 AM

Claire is useless. I hope Locke does her.

Easy Mac · 02-01-2008, 10:10 AM

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Claire is useless. I hope Locke does her.

does her in, or just does her?

rkmsuf · 02-01-2008, 10:15 AM

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does her in, or just does her?

both. in either order.

Swaggs · 02-01-2008, 10:15 AM

If you really want to be spoiled, here is more information reported about the Oceanic 6 (and note that there is word that it is not all-inclusive) :

Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler

Spoiler

Suburban Rhythm · 02-01-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

I have a feeling Claire, the baby, and Sawyer are the 6. Sawyer goes with Kate...based on my feeling that it was Sawyer who Kate had to go back to at the end of season 3.

And remember Desmond's vision? Doesn't he see Claire getting on a helicopter>

I don't know that the baby would count. Same as Desmond or Ben wouldn't count since they weren't a survivor of the crash. I guess if you count the baby as a living person when Claire was, what, about 8 months pregnant, depends on your politics.

Thomkal · 02-01-2008, 07:44 PM

well I generally liked the episode but I thought the whole part about Naomi, running off to the woods, leaving a false trail, climbing a tree, then falling on and keeping Kate pinned to the ground with a knife at her throat after having a knife thrown in her back...and then dying was very very lame.

I am intrigued by the whole Oceanic 6 though and who's in the coffin and how they died. My thoughts on that is that it had to be either Locke or Sawyer based on Jack's comment at the time. Kind of ruled out Sawyer after Kate said she had some one waiting up for her. Locke didn't seem like he'd ever leave the island willingly, but given what happened this episode Kate's reaction to Jack showing her the obituary makes more sense here. I can't imagine Ben having any family show up after spending most of his life on the island.

Raiders Army · 02-01-2008, 09:37 PM

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well I generally liked the episode but I thought the whole part about Naomi, running off to the woods, leaving a false trail, climbing a tree, then falling on and keeping Kate pinned to the ground with a knife at her throat after having a knife thrown in her back...and then dying was very very lame.

ditto, although I liked the episode.

Are you guys sure there are no more flashbacks? Isn't it dependent on your point of view? Could the island be the flashbacks now?

Just a thought, although it's incorrect.

JetsIn06 · 02-01-2008, 10:33 PM

Has anyone seen all of the "missing pieces" episodes? I just watched the last one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9M0FTWACU

Wow. Also...anyone see who was in the chair in Jacob's house last night?

sabotai · 02-02-2008, 05:32 AM

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Could the island be the flashbacks now?

I don't think so, since the island story is the only one told in chronological order and doesn't focus on just one character. The flashbacks and flashforwards have all come out of chronological order, and only focus on 1 person.

IMetTrentGreen · 02-02-2008, 05:53 AM

spoiler (allegedly) on who the "he" was that Kate refenced in her season 3 finale convo with Jack:

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Guy in Jacob's chair was

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Toddzilla · 02-02-2008, 08:46 AM

IMTG: That first spoiler makes no sense, given what we know about how Jack and Kate feel about the person-in-the-coffin.

IMetTrentGreen · 02-02-2008, 09:08 AM

Smoke monsters, polar bears, Locke's dad showing up . . . I stopped expecting stuff to make sense a long time ago.

Anyway it's just what I done read.

JetsIn06 · 02-07-2008, 09:09 PM

Definitely loved tonights episode. That Oceanic guy, who met Hurley last week, is really creepy.

Lots of good storylines getting started.

Lathum · 02-07-2008, 09:48 PM

I hated it, was to all over the place

Swaggs · 02-07-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I hated it, was to all over the place

Same here.

Some good acting and somewhat chilling moments, but all and all it just seemed to add more loose ends.

I really hope the show doesn't go back to the every other episode split between the two (Locke group and Jack group) groups, like it did when Jack/Sawyer/Kate were captured in season 2.

One thing I noticed, that I thought was odd, was that Harold Perrineaux (sp?), the actor that played Michael, was in the credits but didn't appear to be in the show.

DeToxRox · 02-07-2008, 10:04 PM

If the writer strike does end this upcoming week, rumor is we'll get more episodes of Lost this year

ThunderingHERD · 02-08-2008, 07:21 AM

I'm guessing Michael is Ben's man on the boat. As for the casket, let me be the first person anywhere to guess that it's Abaddon.

Easy Mac · 02-08-2008, 07:53 AM

Is it wrong that I was Jeremey Davies and Ken Leung in every TV and movie?

I also liked Locked mentioning Walt talked to him, but her was a little taller.

Cork · 02-08-2008, 09:00 AM

Another excellent episode!

-Cork

JetsIn06 · 02-08-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Is it wrong that I was Jeremey Davies and Ken Leung in every TV and movie?

I also liked Locked mentioning Walt talked to him, but her was a little taller.

I thought that was really funny. Also, I loved how Locke said the bulllet went through him because he didn't have a kidney.

As for the people who didn't like it, I understand your points. But to me the best part of the show is getting new questions. So I loved it.

DanGarion · 02-08-2008, 09:39 AM

Just thought I would add my 10 cents. I liked the episode a lot. More questions of course, but I think they are doing a good job taking care of some of the old ones.

Oh and also wanted to provide a link regarding the helicopter. http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N842M.html

lordscarlet · 02-08-2008, 02:59 PM

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Definitely loved tonights episode. That Oceanic guy, who met Hurley last week, is really creepy.

Lots of good storylines getting started.

I don't think he's an Oceanic guy, I think that's just what he told Hurley.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2008, 05:41 PM

Ken Leung did a terrific job last night. It seems as if they've really sped up the development of the story this season, which is good. Before, we'd get four episodes of flashbacks for each of the new characters. Last night we got one episode with four different flashbacks.

Toddzilla · 02-08-2008, 09:47 PM

You sure they were flashbacks?

We're only 90-days post-crash, so the discovery of the plane - which seemed to be accidental by the dialog - could have reasonable occurred much later than the events on the island.

JetsIn06 · 02-08-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

You sure they were flashbacks?

We're only 90-days post-crash, so the discovery of the plane - which seemed to be accidental by the dialog - could have reasonable occurred much later than the events on the island.

Good thinking. I didn't think about that.

However, in the ARG Find 815 which just ended, the main character Sam Thomas lost his fiance in the crash, and he didn't know about any survivors. Sam is the one that actually finds the plane on the bottom of the ocean floor.

cmp · 02-08-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

You sure they were flashbacks?

We're only 90-days post-crash, so the discovery of the plane - which seemed to be accidental by the dialog - could have reasonable occurred much later than the events on the island.

Didn't Naomi tell them when she arrived that the wreckage had already been found?

Draft Dodger · 02-09-2008, 07:17 AM

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Didn't Naomi tell them when she arrived that the wreckage had already been found?

it would also be kind of tough for Naomi to appear in flash forwards...

DanGarion · 02-09-2008, 11:03 AM

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it would also be kind of tough for Naomi to appear in flash forwards...

Yeah but it would also be hard for a wrecked plane to appear in two locations...

Honolulu_Blue · 02-09-2008, 11:47 AM

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Yeah but it would also be hard for a wrecked plane to appear in two locations...

Not so much, really...

DanGarion · 02-09-2008, 07:04 PM

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Not so much, really...

If it's the entire plane in two locations, yes.

CleBrownsfan · 02-15-2008, 06:41 AM

um - WOW to the end of this week's episode!!

Toddzilla · 02-15-2008, 06:46 AM

indeed - and for me the big WOW was the discrepancy in the two timers.

Spoiler

Raiders Army · 02-15-2008, 06:47 AM

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um - WOW to the end of this week's episode!!

Really? I thought it was a given that it was Ben. Good episode, probably not as good as last week, but good nonetheless. I was thinking they'd end the episode with Sayid meeting Michael (WAAAAAAAAALT!) on the boat.

Easy Mac · 02-15-2008, 08:46 AM

This site blew my mind

http://mirrormattermoon.blogspot.com/

02-01-2008, 08:18 AM	#53
Aylmar High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles	Please let Hurley be wrong about Jack being right. I don't want Jack to be right about anything. I despise that character. It's amazing that the writers can come up with all these great and deep support characters and then botch Jack so badly. Or maybe it's just the way Fox portrays him. Sometimes when I watch I think that the writers are taking certain directions because he's got such limited range. __________________ "At its best, football is still football, an amalgam of thought and violence, chess with broken bones and shredded ligaments." -- Dave Kindred

02-01-2008, 08:53 AM	#60
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	On the theme of the Oceanic 6, my wife and I were talking it through last night. We know Kate, Jack and Hurley are 3 of the 6. One of the remaining three is possibly Sawyer, as Kate mentions "he'll be looking for me" when they meet at the airport in Jack's flash forward. Desmond would not be one, as he was not on the flight. Charlie is shark food. I say one of the remaining people is Locke. Seems odd that he would leave the island, but he makes the most sense to me for who was in the coffin, with no other visitors, and Kate's "Why would I go?" Locke is the one fighting Jack to stay, and him going to the funeral was his way of saying that Locke was right all along. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

02-01-2008, 09:03 AM	#61
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I have a hard time picturing Locke leaving. I could see it being Sawyer or, perhaps, Ben. __________________ Mile High Hockey

02-01-2008, 09:55 AM	#64
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	FYI there are rumors/spoilers as to who all 6 of the Oceanic 6 are if you look around enough. __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

02-01-2008, 10:00 AM	#67
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Claire is useless. I hope Locke does her. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-01-2008, 08:35 AM	#59
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	No way thats hurley in the casket.. the casket wasn't quite big enough... Besides all that, i'd think Kate wouldn't have had a problem going to Hurley's funeral. I'm leaning towards that casket being juliette

02-01-2008, 09:09 AM	#62
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Last season I thought it was Ben in the casket.

02-01-2008, 09:57 AM	#65
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	juliet

02-01-2008, 09:59 AM	#66
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	I have a feeling Claire, the baby, and Sawyer are the 6. Sawyer goes with Kate...based on my feeling that it was Sawyer who Kate had to go back to at the end of season 3. And remember Desmond's vision? Doesn't he see Claire getting on a helicopter>

02-01-2008, 10:15 AM	#70
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	If you really want to be spoiled, here is more information reported about the Oceanic 6 (and note that there is word that it is not all-inclusive) : Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler The Oceanic 6 are the 6 people who get off the Island and are semi-famous. The 6 are Sun, Jin, Kate, Jack, Hurley and Sayid __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-01-2008, 07:44 PM	#72
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	well I generally liked the episode but I thought the whole part about Naomi, running off to the woods, leaving a false trail, climbing a tree, then falling on and keeping Kate pinned to the ground with a knife at her throat after having a knife thrown in her back...and then dying was very very lame. I am intrigued by the whole Oceanic 6 though and who's in the coffin and how they died. My thoughts on that is that it had to be either Locke or Sawyer based on Jack's comment at the time. Kind of ruled out Sawyer after Kate said she had some one waiting up for her. Locke didn't seem like he'd ever leave the island willingly, but given what happened this episode Kate's reaction to Jack showing her the obituary makes more sense here. I can't imagine Ben having any family show up after spending most of his life on the island.

02-01-2008, 10:33 PM	#74
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Has anyone seen all of the "missing pieces" episodes? I just watched the last one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9M0FTWACU Wow. Also...anyone see who was in the chair in Jacob's house last night?

02-02-2008, 05:53 AM	#76
IMetTrentGreen College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Austin, Texas	spoiler (allegedly) on who the "he" was that Kate refenced in her season 3 finale convo with Jack: Spoiler It's Claire's baby. Neither she nor Sawyer get off the island Guy in Jacob's chair was Spoiler Jack's father. There are pictures of it if you look around a little. There is no doubt in my mind that Jack's dad is dead, and Jacob is the being capable of 'shapeshifting' to appear to specific people as whatever the situation may require, i.e. Christian to Jack, Walt to Locke and Shannon, that bald guy from Sex and the City to Hurley, etc Last edited by IMetTrentGreen : 02-02-2008 at 05:55 AM.

02-02-2008, 08:46 AM	#77
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	IMTG: That first spoiler makes no sense, given what we know about how Jack and Kate feel about the person-in-the-coffin.

02-02-2008, 09:08 AM	#78
IMetTrentGreen College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Austin, Texas	Smoke monsters, polar bears, Locke's dad showing up . . . I stopped expecting stuff to make sense a long time ago. Anyway it's just what I done read.

02-07-2008, 09:09 PM	#79
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Definitely loved tonights episode. That Oceanic guy, who met Hurley last week, is really creepy. Lots of good storylines getting started.

02-07-2008, 09:48 PM	#80
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I hated it, was to all over the place

02-07-2008, 10:04 PM	#82
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	If the writer strike does end this upcoming week, rumor is we'll get more episodes of Lost this year

02-08-2008, 07:21 AM	#83
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I'm guessing Michael is Ben's man on the boat. As for the casket, let me be the first person anywhere to guess that it's Abaddon. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

02-08-2008, 07:53 AM	#84
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Is it wrong that I was Jeremey Davies and Ken Leung in every TV and movie? I also liked Locked mentioning Walt talked to him, but her was a little taller.

02-08-2008, 09:00 AM	#85
Cork H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wisconsin	Another excellent episode! -Cork

02-08-2008, 09:39 AM	#87
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	Just thought I would add my 10 cents. I liked the episode a lot. More questions of course, but I think they are doing a good job taking care of some of the old ones. Oh and also wanted to provide a link regarding the helicopter. http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N842M.html __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

02-08-2008, 05:41 PM	#89
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Ken Leung did a terrific job last night. It seems as if they've really sped up the development of the story this season, which is good. Before, we'd get four episodes of flashbacks for each of the new characters. Last night we got one episode with four different flashbacks.

02-08-2008, 09:47 PM	#90
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	You sure they were flashbacks? We're only 90-days post-crash, so the discovery of the plane - which seemed to be accidental by the dialog - could have reasonable occurred much later than the events on the island.

02-15-2008, 06:41 AM	#97
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	um - WOW to the end of this week's episode!! __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

02-15-2008, 06:46 AM	#98
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	indeed - and for me the big WOW was the discrepancy in the two timers. Spoiler So, if time indeed does pass slower on the island than the rest of the world, then are the flash-forwards taking place while they're still on the island? Last edited by Toddzilla : 02-15-2008 at 06:46 AM.

02-15-2008, 08:46 AM	#100
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	This site blew my mind http://mirrormattermoon.blogspot.com/

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