FOOL Poll: Which jersey should Tex Jones wear into the HoF?

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 07:36 AM

Tex Jones just became eligible for the Hall of Fame. The class of players that retired in 2047 is actually quite amazing so Jones might not make it into the Hall just yet. I assume he will be elected at some point in the near future though. Just in case he is, I would like to see what everyone's thoughts are on the jersey that he would wear into the hall.

TEX JONES

Jones actually played for 8 different teams, was an all star with 4 of them.

He appears to have played his best seasons in Chico and Hartford, but I'm having a difficult time choosing one over the other. With apologies to the other 6 teams, I'm going to say he'll either enter the hall as a Rebel or Harpooner.

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 08:09 AM

He won 2 Championships with each team.

4 All-Star appearances with Chico, 3 with Hartford.

Hartford ultimately showed zero loyalty by trading him away to rival Chico.

I voted for Chico.

Molson_ootp · 01-27-2010, 08:20 AM

doesn't quite look like a HOFamer to me.

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 08:29 AM

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doesn't quite look like a HOFamer to me.

He might be the second best catcher (or at least top 5) in our league's 93 year season.

hyde4us11 · 01-27-2010, 08:38 AM

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Hartford ultimately showed zero loyalty by trading him away to rival Chico.

I disagree, I actually respected him so much that I traded him because I was going to be bad for a while. He was to good to sit on the doormat with me.

TeachEnEspanol · 01-27-2010, 09:22 AM

I'm voting Hartford because I like to pay respect to the team where a great player got their start and was raised up right. Also, I would never discourage a trade especially when, as Hyde said, you already know your team is going down, you could really use the prospects you're bound to get for your allstar, and he would be better off playing for a team that he can actually help win.

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hyde4us11

I disagree, I actually respected him so much that I traded him because I was going to be bad for a while. He was to good to sit on the doormat with me.

I had to come up with something to base my decision on.

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 09:36 AM

If we go by the numbers alone it's Chico. His first two seasons in Hartford were expectedly good but not great before he came into his potential. His OPS in Chico was .001 higher than it was in Hartford but his run production was much better for the Rebels.

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 09:40 AM

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If we go by the numbers alone it's Chico. His first two seasons in Hartford were expectedly good but not great before he came into his potential. His OPS in Chico was .001 higher than it was in Hartford but his run production was much better for the Rebels.

Chico's offense at that time with Dawson, Santos, etc was so far ahead of Hartford and everyone elses that the extra run production had to be assumed. Taking that out of the equation, to me the stats in Chico and Hartford look almost identical so I'm not really counting that too heavily as I don't know if he should benefit in this consideration simply from having someone like Dawson hit behind him.

He played more years in Chico, had more of his prime years in Chico and more AS appearances and Championships and such in Chico. But only by 1 extra year. So that is why I felt it close enough to see other people's opinions. Definitely not slam dunk to me at least.

TeachEnEspanol · 01-27-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

He played more years in Chico, had more of his prime years in Chico and more AS appearances and Championships and such in Chico. But only by 1 extra year. So that is why I felt it close enough to see other people's opinions. Definitely not slam dunk to me at least.

When in doubt, I say put him in a Napa Valley jersey. He played for us a WHOLE year...and plus, we're just awesome.

hyde4us11 · 01-27-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

He played more years in Chico, had more of his prime years in Chico and more AS appearances and Championships and such in Chico.

Just for the record it was 2 championships each.

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hyde4us11

Just for the record it was 2 championships each.

I fail at counting!

I must have missed the other one, my apologies!

Chief Rum · 01-27-2010, 11:08 AM

Tex also won a championship with the Hooligans!

I voted Chico. Not an easy decision, certainly. His best season came with Hartford (right before hyde traded him). But the fact he was with Chico the longer time and in the prime of his career, that means something to me.

Also, he was a key part of perhaps the most dominant offensive dynasty FOOL has seen thus far. Even if Santos and Dawson are mentioned first, it's still not the same without considering the other big bats, including Jones.

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Tex also won a championship with the Hooligans!

I voted Chico. Not an easy decision, certainly. His best season came with Hartford (right before hyde traded him). But the fact he was with Chico the longer time and in the prime of his career, that means something to me.

Also, he was a key part of perhaps the most dominant offensive dynasty FOOL has seen thus far. Even if Santos and Dawson are mentioned first, it's still not the same without considering the other big bats, including Jones.

He did not win one with Tokyo. The year I had him he was solid during the regular season and then batted something like 5 percent in the playoffs.

Chief Rum · 01-27-2010, 11:33 AM

Wait a sec...so he won two championships with Hartford, but didn't play?

According to his player sheet, Tex's first visit to the playoffs was with Chico.

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wait a sec...so he won two championships with Hartford, but didn't play?

According to his player sheet, Tex's first visit to the playoffs was with Chico.

I think the Statslab has some issues going back past a certain date.

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Montreal_GM

I think the Statslab has some issues going back past a certain date.

This one isn't a statslab issue. The actual OOTP player card doesn't list stats for those two postseasons. His history does show 2 titles with Hartford though. Looking through the 2034 playoff thread, I see Tex Jones listed, so its an OOTP issue with the stats there.

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 11:51 AM

Oh nevermind that. I know why postseason stats prior to 2038 does not show up for anyone. It is because of the merged history done that year.

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 11:56 AM

Another plus for Chico are his two Commissioner Awards during his time there. He never won a Tanaka, so these are probably his two best pieces of hardware outside of his Championship rings.

Tasan · 01-27-2010, 01:35 PM

I went with Hartford on this. He got his start there, and right now Chico is AI. I really don't feel like giving the AI anything at this point. Plus, would Chico be a contracted team?

Alan T · 01-27-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasan

I went with Hartford on this. He got his start there, and right now Chico is AI. I really don't feel like giving the AI anything at this point. Plus, would Chico be a contracted team?

Chico is one of two AI teams so if we do contraction, they would be one. We still put Hall of Famers in with their old jerseys though even for contracted teams (ie: Valdosta has HoF members and such for instance), so contraction doesn't mean as much here as simply which team you all associate Tex Jones with the most.

CrimsonFox · 01-27-2010, 02:50 PM

I neither like the name "Chico" nor "Rebel" so I voted for Harpooners

CrimsonFox · 01-27-2010, 02:51 PM

and yes referencing an AI team is lame :P

TeachEnEspanol · 01-27-2010, 03:37 PM

I see you're all going to ignore my awesomeness. Well, if that's the case, I guess this is as sound of reasoning as any...

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I neither like the name "Chico" nor "Rebel" so I voted for Harpooners

Tasan · 01-27-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Chico is one of two AI teams so if we do contraction, they would be one. We still put Hall of Famers in with their old jerseys though even for contracted teams (ie: Valdosta has HoF members and such for instance), so contraction doesn't mean as much here as simply which team you all associate Tex Jones with the most.

Oh I know we do, it just seems more fitting to give it to the non-AI led, not-up-for-contraction team at this point, in this case.

Plus, like crimsonfox, I dislike the Chico Rebels name while I have this weird love/hate relation with all things Hartford Harpooner.

Tasan · 01-27-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TeachEnEspanol

I see you're all going to ignore my awesomeness. Well, if that's the case, I guess this is as sound of reasoning as any...

How on earth could we ever ignore you!!??!?

Montreal_GM · 01-27-2010, 04:33 PM

If we're basing this on team names it's only fair to assume Balzac can't have any HOF'ers unless the player stays there his entire career.

Tasan · 01-27-2010, 05:29 PM

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If we're basing this on team names it's only fair to assume Balzac can't have any HOF'ers unless the player stays there his entire career.

Agree 100%

View Poll Results: Which jersey should Tex Jones enter the Hall of Fame in?
Hartford Harpooner	4	66.67%
Chico Rebel	2	33.33%
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01-27-2010, 08:09 AM	#2
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	He won 2 Championships with each team. 4 All-Star appearances with Chico, 3 with Hartford. Hartford ultimately showed zero loyalty by trading him away to rival Chico. I voted for Chico. __________________ Kevin Last edited by Montreal_GM : 01-27-2010 at 09:28 AM. Reason: had all-star #'s wrong

01-27-2010, 08:20 AM	#3
Molson_ootp n00b Join Date: Nov 2009	doesn't quite look like a HOFamer to me. __________________ - Molson Detroit Tigers GM, FOOL-H "Our noise for some seconds passed beyond excitement into a kind of immense open anguish, a wailing, a cry to be saved. But immortality is nontransferable. The papers said that the other players, and even the umpires on the field, begged him to come out and acknowledge us in some way, but he never had and did not now. Gods do not answer letters."

01-27-2010, 09:36 AM	#8
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	If we go by the numbers alone it's Chico. His first two seasons in Hartford were expectedly good but not great before he came into his potential. His OPS in Chico was .001 higher than it was in Hartford but his run production was much better for the Rebels. __________________ Kevin

01-27-2010, 11:08 AM	#13
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Tex also won a championship with the Hooligans! I voted Chico. Not an easy decision, certainly. His best season came with Hartford (right before hyde traded him). But the fact he was with Chico the longer time and in the prime of his career, that means something to me. Also, he was a key part of perhaps the most dominant offensive dynasty FOOL has seen thus far. Even if Santos and Dawson are mentioned first, it's still not the same without considering the other big bats, including Jones. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-27-2010, 09:22 AM	#6
TeachEnEspanol College Starter Join Date: Aug 2008	I'm voting Hartford because I like to pay respect to the team where a great player got their start and was raised up right. Also, I would never discourage a trade especially when, as Hyde said, you already know your team is going down, you could really use the prospects you're bound to get for your allstar, and he would be better off playing for a team that he can actually help win.

01-27-2010, 11:33 AM	#15
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Wait a sec...so he won two championships with Hartford, but didn't play? According to his player sheet, Tex's first visit to the playoffs was with Chico. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-27-2010, 11:51 AM	#18
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Oh nevermind that. I know why postseason stats prior to 2038 does not show up for anyone. It is because of the merged history done that year. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

01-27-2010, 11:56 AM	#19
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	Another plus for Chico are his two Commissioner Awards during his time there. He never won a Tanaka, so these are probably his two best pieces of hardware outside of his Championship rings. __________________ Kevin

01-27-2010, 01:35 PM	#20
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	I went with Hartford on this. He got his start there, and right now Chico is AI. I really don't feel like giving the AI anything at this point. Plus, would Chico be a contracted team? __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

01-27-2010, 02:50 PM	#22
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I neither like the name "Chico" nor "Rebel" so I voted for Harpooners

01-27-2010, 02:51 PM	#23
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	and yes referencing an AI team is lame :P

01-27-2010, 04:33 PM	#27
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	If we're basing this on team names it's only fair to assume Balzac can't have any HOF'ers unless the player stays there his entire career. __________________ Kevin Last edited by Montreal_GM : 01-27-2010 at 04:33 PM.

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