Official 2011 College Football Bowl Season thread - Page 6

jbergey22 · 01-03-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

You're kidding, right? Disregard the fact that his best wideout is a true freshman who isn't even that good yet. Just forget about that. Go back and watch his throws outside of the pocket. He did it all game long. The dude is a professional quarterback. Just wait, if you have to.

Kidding about what Id like to see? No

I have no doubt he is a professional qb. I just wonder if the bar isnt set to high. He takes what is given to him which is fine but at some point I would have loved for him to take over the game. Why was Stanford so afraid to turn him loose? They get to OT and they run the ball twice leaving Luck in a 3rd very long situation.

My biggest question I have is why is the Stanford gameplan so conservative when you have this huge weapon on your hands. Why are they wasting valuable downs by running the ball. Luck should be more than capable of passing the ball whether the defense is expecting it or not.

RainMaker · 01-03-2012, 01:10 AM

I don't think Stanford has the same talent levels to be able to run a more aggressive offense.

jbergey22 · 01-03-2012, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I don't think Stanford has the same talent levels to be able to run a more aggressive offense.

I dont know they have 2 of the top 10 picks in next years draft but their offense was fine. I think they only punted 13 times all year or something ridiculous like that.

I was a bit too hard on Luck after thinking more about it. Two plays he made kind of bothered me but they are a reason he probably will be a stud at the next level. On a couple of 3rd down plays he took the "safe" check option instead of throwing it downfield and attempting to get the 1st down. I am not sure why Stanford ran the ball on 2nd and 14 in OT when you have the best QB in the nation. That is on the coaching and not Luck.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 07:00 AM

If your QB only throws 4 incompletions and you're not winning by 10-20+ points, you didn't throw enough. I didn't get the playcalling for Stanford at all. I understand wanting to establish the run, and they ran it well a good chunk of the time, but they also put Luck in a few 3rd-and-long situations that killed their opportunities to pull ahead.

And personally, I have no problem going with check-downs instead of throwing an INT. When he had the chance to make a play, he did. There was one scramble to the right and bullet pass to the sideline that was beautiful. I like the fact that he's that young and doesn't feel the need to Romo-Favre-up a game by trying to do too much.

RainMaker · 01-03-2012, 07:47 AM

I wasn't necessarily defending Stanford playcalling, more defending Luck. I was assuming that those big throws weren't made because they just weren't there. I still think Luck is going to be an amazing NFL QB.

ISiddiqui · 01-03-2012, 08:33 AM

I think the thing Luck does so well is that he makes all the safe throws and slowly but surely marches down the field. He keeps making all those completions consistently, and if you keep making 7 to 11 yard throws all day, you are consistently making 1st downs. He's kind of the prototypical West Coast offense QB (IIRC, that was the knock on Joe Montana in the Bill Walsh days - it was only with George Seifert that they aired it out more often).

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 09:54 AM

darrenrovell darren rovell
http://Sportsbook.com tells me replay reversal in OT of Fiesta Bowl was big for the book as 82% of the $ had OK State -5.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 09:55 AM

I thought it was really weird to play for a FG when the ball is at the half-yard line, anyway. I can understand 3-5 yards away, and a fumble can happen anywhere, but damn, I'd rather try at least one QB sneak or dive for the TD and then set up the FG before I just hand the game to a foot.

miked · 01-03-2012, 11:16 AM

Not sure I've seen it here, but I can't believe the horrible coaching at the end of the Oregon-Wisc game. You make that big completion with 2 seconds left, then try to spike the ball when the clock is moving at the whistle? They had like 20 seconds to get set while the officials were spotting the ball and getting ready, I just don't understand how you try and spike a ball with <2 seconds left. With just 20 yards to the endzone.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 11:27 AM

Should have fake-spiked it like BYU and ad libbed from there.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 06:50 PM

For the sake of my Facebook sanity, I would really like a win by Michigan. Plus, it would mean the Big Ten finishes at 4-6 which, while not good, is better than 3-7.

cartman · 01-03-2012, 07:23 PM

This rendition of the SSB is gawdawful.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2012, 07:34 PM

David Molk possibly missing this game is terrible news. Easily our best OL and it isn't even close.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

David Molk possibly missing this game is terrible news. Easily our best OL and it isn't even close.

And it already showed on the first drive. It's one thing if it happens even during the week of the game but during warmups is a killer. Horrid decision by the VT back though.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 07:49 PM

And he's back. Looks like a typical game where one team takes off and then the other team rallies.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 07:56 PM

Can't have a Michigan game without a Robinson INT.

JPhillips · 01-03-2012, 08:01 PM

The referee calls penalties as if they are moral failings.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 08:55 PM

I swear Michigan tries to score based on a difficulty scale.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 08:59 PM

That was probably the worst successfull fake field goal ever.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

That was probably the worst successfull fake field goal ever.

I still have no idea if it was a fake. No one ran any patterns.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 09:02 PM

It wasn't a fake. The kicker missteps and has no chance at a kick so the holder picks it up and runs with it.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I still have no idea if it was a fake. No one ran any patterns.

I certainly hope it wasnt planned.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 09:33 PM

Hell of a play on the INT.

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 09:35 PM

Michigan needs to do something besides run up the middle on first down.

DeToxRox · 01-03-2012, 09:42 PM

lol Dennis Dodd tweet

Just remember: Had Va Tech and Mich been wearing LSU and Ala unis that would have been the greatest half of football ever played.

cuervo72 · 01-03-2012, 09:44 PM

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 10:10 PM

VT abusing Countess in this game quite a bit.

kingfc22 · 01-03-2012, 10:38 PM

Do we have another OT game coming up...

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Do we have another OT game coming up...

Isn't looking like it.

edit: Then again...

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 10:47 PM

Sadly, I have more faith in VT's offense at this point.

Abe Sargent · 01-03-2012, 10:48 PM

I just sent ESPN a e-mail, which I'm sure they won;t care about, regarding the idiot thing the announcer said about 15 minutes ago, that West Virginia University is another school from the state of Virginia.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Sadly, I have more faith in VT's offense at this point.

Hard to see how you wouldn't. Michigan hasn't done much of anything on offense all night. The offense has basically boiled down to two big plays, both of which where throw it up and pray passes off the back foot.

kingfc22 · 01-03-2012, 10:51 PM

That was one hell of a catch.

kingfc22 · 01-03-2012, 10:54 PM

Interesting...Didn't see him "lose control"

Matthean · 01-03-2012, 10:54 PM

Horrible call.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 10:55 PM

What the hell are people looking at? The ball hit the ground and was the only reason he controlled it to his stomach.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

What the hell are people looking at? The ball hit the ground and was the only reason he controlled it to his stomach.

I agree.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 10:56 PM

This has definitely been the WTF Bowl.

Swaggs · 01-03-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I just sent ESPN a e-mail, which I'm sure they won;t care about, regarding the idiot thing the announcer said about 15 minutes ago, that West Virginia University is another school from the state of Virginia.

I caught that, too.

I've given up caring about it and correcting people anymore. There are just far too many people that don't realize that West Virginia and Virginia are not the same state for me to worry about it.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 10:57 PM

I blame the NFL for fucking up what the hell a catch is. No one uses common sense any more. He didn't have an arm under the ball and never had possession before the ball touched the ground. Not a catch.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 10:57 PM

Still not over. Michigan has struggled moving the ball all game and Michigan's kicker isn't Mr. Automatic.

Grover · 01-03-2012, 10:58 PM

HAIL HAIL TO MICHIGAN!

Passacaglia · 01-03-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I just sent ESPN a e-mail, which I'm sure they won;t care about, regarding the idiot thing the announcer said about 15 minutes ago, that West Virginia University is another school from the state of Virginia.

I was wondering if I heard him say that.

Go Blue!

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 10:59 PM

That was the 3rd time the Michigan kicker moved forward pre-snap. I don't get why that's not a penalty.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-03-2012, 11:00 PM

YES!!!!

Swaggs · 01-03-2012, 11:01 PM

So, is Denard the starting QB next season?

Ksyrup · 01-03-2012, 11:02 PM

Man, that replay showed him clearly moving pre-snap. That's a penalty. Does he always do that? He has tonight.

Passacaglia · 01-03-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

That was probably the worst successfull fake field goal ever.

No way it was a fake IMO. I think the holder freaked out since the kicker started his run-up before the ball was snapped (which he did a little on the winning kick, too).

cmp · 01-03-2012, 11:02 PM

I don't care how ugly that was. A win is a win!

DeToxRox · 01-03-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Man, that replay showed him clearly moving pre-snap. That's a penalty. Does he always do that? He has tonight.

The kid looked drunk as fuck. Knowing his history, he probably is.

01-03-2012, 07:00 AM	#254
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	If your QB only throws 4 incompletions and you're not winning by 10-20+ points, you didn't throw enough. I didn't get the playcalling for Stanford at all. I understand wanting to establish the run, and they ran it well a good chunk of the time, but they also put Luck in a few 3rd-and-long situations that killed their opportunities to pull ahead. And personally, I have no problem going with check-downs instead of throwing an INT. When he had the chance to make a play, he did. There was one scramble to the right and bullet pass to the sideline that was beautiful. I like the fact that he's that young and doesn't feel the need to Romo-Favre-up a game by trying to do too much. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 01-03-2012 at 07:01 AM.

01-03-2012, 08:33 AM	#256
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think the thing Luck does so well is that he makes all the safe throws and slowly but surely marches down the field. He keeps making all those completions consistently, and if you keep making 7 to 11 yard throws all day, you are consistently making 1st downs. He's kind of the prototypical West Coast offense QB (IIRC, that was the knock on Joe Montana in the Bill Walsh days - it was only with George Seifert that they aired it out more often). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-03-2012, 09:54 AM	#257
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	darrenrovell darren rovell http://Sportsbook.com tells me replay reversal in OT of Fiesta Bowl was big for the book as 82% of the $ had OK State -5. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-03-2012, 09:55 AM	#258
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I thought it was really weird to play for a FG when the ball is at the half-yard line, anyway. I can understand 3-5 yards away, and a fumble can happen anywhere, but damn, I'd rather try at least one QB sneak or dive for the TD and then set up the FG before I just hand the game to a foot. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-03-2012, 11:16 AM	#259
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Not sure I've seen it here, but I can't believe the horrible coaching at the end of the Oregon-Wisc game. You make that big completion with 2 seconds left, then try to spike the ball when the clock is moving at the whistle? They had like 20 seconds to get set while the officials were spotting the ball and getting ready, I just don't understand how you try and spike a ball with <2 seconds left. With just 20 yards to the endzone. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

01-03-2012, 01:10 AM	#252
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I don't think Stanford has the same talent levels to be able to run a more aggressive offense.

01-03-2012, 07:47 AM	#255
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I wasn't necessarily defending Stanford playcalling, more defending Luck. I was assuming that those big throws weren't made because they just weren't there. I still think Luck is going to be an amazing NFL QB.

01-03-2012, 11:27 AM	#260
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Should have fake-spiked it like BYU and ad libbed from there. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 01-03-2012 at 11:27 AM.

01-03-2012, 06:50 PM	#261
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	For the sake of my Facebook sanity, I would really like a win by Michigan. Plus, it would mean the Big Ten finishes at 4-6 which, while not good, is better than 3-7. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 07:23 PM	#262
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	This rendition of the SSB is gawdawful. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-03-2012, 07:34 PM	#263
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	David Molk possibly missing this game is terrible news. Easily our best OL and it isn't even close.

01-03-2012, 07:49 PM	#265
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	And he's back. Looks like a typical game where one team takes off and then the other team rallies. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 07:56 PM	#266
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Can't have a Michigan game without a Robinson INT. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 08:01 PM	#267
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	The referee calls penalties as if they are moral failings. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-03-2012, 08:55 PM	#268
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I swear Michigan tries to score based on a difficulty scale. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 08:59 PM	#269
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	That was probably the worst successfull fake field goal ever. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

01-03-2012, 09:02 PM	#271
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	It wasn't a fake. The kicker missteps and has no chance at a kick so the holder picks it up and runs with it. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 01-03-2012 at 09:02 PM.

01-03-2012, 09:33 PM	#273
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Hell of a play on the INT. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 09:35 PM	#274
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Michigan needs to do something besides run up the middle on first down. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 01-03-2012 at 09:37 PM.

01-03-2012, 09:42 PM	#275
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	lol Dennis Dodd tweet Just remember: Had Va Tech and Mich been wearing LSU and Ala unis that would have been the greatest half of football ever played.

01-03-2012, 09:44 PM	#276
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Hah. __________________ null

01-03-2012, 10:10 PM	#277
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	VT abusing Countess in this game quite a bit. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 10:38 PM	#278
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Do we have another OT game coming up... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-03-2012, 10:47 PM	#280
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Sadly, I have more faith in VT's offense at this point. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 10:48 PM	#281
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I just sent ESPN a e-mail, which I'm sure they won;t care about, regarding the idiot thing the announcer said about 15 minutes ago, that West Virginia University is another school from the state of Virginia. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 01-03-2012 at 10:50 PM.

01-03-2012, 10:51 PM	#283
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	That was one hell of a catch. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-03-2012, 10:54 PM	#284
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Interesting...Didn't see him "lose control" __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-03-2012, 10:54 PM	#285
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Horrible call. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

01-03-2012, 10:55 PM	#286
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	What the hell are people looking at? The ball hit the ground and was the only reason he controlled it to his stomach. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-03-2012, 10:56 PM	#288
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	This has definitely been the WTF Bowl. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

01-03-2012, 10:57 PM	#290
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I blame the NFL for fucking up what the hell a catch is. No one uses common sense any more. He didn't have an arm under the ball and never had possession before the ball touched the ground. Not a catch. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-03-2012, 10:57 PM	#291
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Still not over. Michigan has struggled moving the ball all game and Michigan's kicker isn't Mr. Automatic. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

01-03-2012, 10:58 PM	#292
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	HAIL HAIL TO MICHIGAN! __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

01-03-2012, 10:59 PM	#294
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That was the 3rd time the Michigan kicker moved forward pre-snap. I don't get why that's not a penalty. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 01-03-2012 at 10:59 PM.

01-03-2012, 11:00 PM	#295
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	YES!!!! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).