NFL Draft 2017 thread

[EagleFan]

Enjoy the rest of the draft. Time to walk the dogs and move to the other side of the house. Will still be watching but not online.

[Abe Sargent]

If I were the Jags, I'd start to count some talented kids, because if some of this talent falls into the 20s, I;d be willing to trade up for an Allen or a Howard.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

They also added a new LG, C, and RG in the offseason so they may be willing to roll the dice on Kessler for a year behind a real OL.

Kessler played well enough to be given a year to see what he can do if the Browns don't see the right QB on the board this draft.

They're going to have the picks to move wherever they want if they see the right QB.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Barnett over Allen? Hmmmm....Barnett was productive in college, but there are questions about his skill set in the pros if I recall.

I was hoping he would be there at 17 for the Skins to move him to OLB.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Was arguably the most productive edge defender in the draft, but his athleticism has questions.

Allen already has 2 arthritic shoulders. Not all that surprising he's sliding.

That's true, and Barnett is safer, but with lesser upside I guess. Barnett was probably who they were targeting here, and nodded when he was there and sent in the card.

In FOF Speak, he;s the low volatility guy who'll wind up 58/58.


EDIT: How is TE Howard still on the board though?

EDIT2 - I like the Hooker pick by teh Colts

[Atocep]

Wonder when the last draft without an OLineman in the top 15 picks was?

[CrescentMoonie]

I think Hooker is as good as Adams at S. Great pick for the Colts.

[NobodyHere]

The Colts definitely needed a safety, and mocks drafts had Hooker going in the area.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Wonder when the last draft without an OLineman in the top 15 picks was?

The answer, as far as I can tell, is not since the merger at the very least. I quit looking at that point.

[tarcone]

I think TEs are available later. I wouldnt waste a 1st on one.

Iowa has one that ran a 4.52 with an 11 foot broad jump, 33" vertical. He will go 3rd or 4th round and be productive.

Think Fedoriwicz (sp?) from the Texans. Another Iowa guy.

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by tarcone

LeShun Daniels from Iowa will be better then Mixon

Who???

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Who???

One of Iowa's 2 1000+ yard rushers. He is a bruiser. Will make someone a real good back.

[CrescentMoonie]

Hoping for a Skins trade down here.

[Butter]

Redskins taking Allen.

[Abe Sargent]

And there Allen heads off the board

[CrescentMoonie]

Hope Allen's shoulders are okay. Could be a major steal if they are.

[Atocep]

Allen reminds me of Tommie Harris. Was a stud for a couple of years, but more or less done by the time he was 26.

[Butter]

Titans taking Adoree Jackson... Reach?

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Butter

Titans taking Adoree Jackson... Reach?

CB rankings were all over the place. Probably the hardest position to figure out. Lots of scheme specific CBs of different varieties with similar overall scores.

[tarcone]

How many flags does he get for his signature superman move?

[bhlloy]

Will be a good nickel guy and probably one of the best returners in the league, plus a surprisingly good tackler for a smaller guy so probably some value on special teams. I'm biased but I think that's a good return for mid-late first round.

[vex]

Adoree is a good pick IMO.

[MrBug708]

He really tailed off at the end of the year but should be a better version of D'Anthony Thomas. Should be a dynamix return man

[tarcone]

Fast

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Will be a good nickel guy and probably one of the best returners in the league, plus a surprisingly good tackler for a smaller guy so probably some value on special teams. I'm biased but I think that's a good return for mid-late first round.

He probably does max out as a Nickel guy, but in today's NFL that puts you on the field 60% or more of the time. Add in the return value and he won't be worn down by playing every down and you actually get some pretty good value.

[Atocep]

Someone could have made a killing with bets on Humphrey being the 1st Alabama player drafted, 3 WR going in the top 9, the Bears trading up to take anyone, and no Oline in the top 15.

Strange draft so far.

[tarcone]

Any ideas who the Broncos pick?

[bhlloy]

And at least he doesn't have to go up against John Ross in the league... interesting that they took two guys who have elite return skills as a large part of their value though

[Abe Sargent]

And now Howard

[Butter]

OJ Howard is like Myles Garrett for me. Somebody who should've been more dominant at the college level, which worries me as a pro.

[tarcone]

Good deal. Broncos always need Tackles

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Someone could have made a killing with bets on Humphrey being the 1st Alabama player drafted, 3 WR going in the top 9, the Bears trading up to take anyone, and no Oline in the top 15.

Strange draft so far.

OL was expected. It's a bad OT draft.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Butter

OJ Howard is like Myles Garrett for me. Somebody who should've been more dominant at the college level, which worries me as a pro.

I think Howard's case it's the offense he was in. He excelled after the catch and only had 2 drops over the past two seasons. Just didn't get the ball much.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Butter

OJ Howard is like Myles Garrett for me. Somebody who should've been more dominant at the college level, which worries me as a pro.

Saban's offense doesn't feature QBs or a gameplan good enough to make anyone look as good as they actually are in the passing game. Howard will be just as good relative to his position as the recent run of Bama WRs are.

[CrescentMoonie]

Foster's shoulder must be completely wrecked.

[Galaril]

I hate the Broncos pick they should have waited and got a tackle in the 2nd . They should have taken Dalvin Cook, Rueben Foster or move up to #18 to get OJ Howard. I hate the Bolles pick or any tackle in this terrible OL class in the first round. Just Elways crappy drafting again.

[Butter]

Browns take Kizer?

[Butter]

Giants taking Engram.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Just Elways crappy drafting again.

Really?

[Neuqua]

Oh no, the Packers are about to draft Cook aren't they... Ugh.

[Butter]

Why would that be bad? They were playing Ty Montgomery most of the season at RB for God's sake.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Butter

Why would that be bad? They were playing Ty Montgomery most of the season at RB for God's sake.

Agreed. Montgomery is a legit RB, but if Cook is there at 29 you have to consider it.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Foster's shoulder must be completely wrecked.

Shoulder, Head, whatever.

(I think Neuqua is a Bears fan.)

[Butter]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Shoulder, Head, whatever.

(I think Neuqua is a Bears fan.)

Yeah, I got that late. Oops

[CrescentMoonie]

An NFL team actually used a polygraph test on Conley? They do know those aren't trustworthy at all, right?

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Shoulder, Head, whatever.

(I think Neuqua is a Bears fan.)

Ah, that makes much more sense.

[Thomkal]

Guess I'm okay with the Cards pick-they didn't try very hard to trade up to get a QB, so must not have liked any of them enough . LB certainly was a need.

[Butter]

People still buy polygraphs as credible?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

An NFL team actually used a polygraph test on Conley? They do know those aren't trustworthy at all, right?

I hears ya

[CrescentMoonie]

Do the Browns take a shot at Foster with all the picks they have stockpiled this year and next? Seems like it might be a moneyball type of thing to do.