Official 2011-12 College Basketball Thread

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Matthean

81-69
77-58
80-65
80-49

All of the scores for #1 vs. #2 match ups in the women's Elite 8.

So you mean to say there are four women's basketball teams?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Matthean

81-69 77-58 80-65 80-49
All of the scores for #1 vs. #2 match ups in the women's Elite 8.

And at least one of those wasn't nearly that close.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

And he clearly sees where the lines are being drawn. KSU has no options other than a mid-major conference if UT and OU bail in the next five years (which is something that I'd give better than 50/50 odds). He built KSU up along with Huggins from a point that was just as bad as South Carolina. If he follows that same blueprint, he'll have a well-paying job in a much more stable school/conference.

Whether the Big 12 is here in 5 years or not has very little to do with Frank's decision to leave KSU. It's been stated in the media to numerous people (even by Frank himself) that the reason he is leaving is because he and the new KSU AD do not get along. The Jamar Samuels decision just before the Syracuse game was just the final straw.

[Ksyrup]

Saw this on the local news last night. Was wondering if it would end up going national. Not sure if this should go in this thread or the strange news thread.

Kentucky and Louisville's game predictably bringing out the crazy in people - CBSSports

Yes, a fight between fans of the two teams during a kidney dialysis session.

[Ksyrup]

We've got a softball tournament in Tennessee this weekend, and we are schedule to play right in the middle of the game. One girl's grandfather is refusing to go to the tournament now. He's staying to watch the game from home.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

Whether the Big 12 is here in 5 years or not has very little to do with Frank's decision to leave KSU. It's been stated in the media to numerous people (even by Frank himself) that the reason he is leaving is because he and the new KSU AD do not get along. The Jamar Samuels decision just before the Syracuse game was just the final straw.

It's an ominous sign for both the institution and the conference under turmoil when a coach like Frank Martin leaves that program to what most would see as a step down and could politely be termed a lateral move.

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

The Jamar Samuels decision just before the Syracuse game was just the final straw.

That's simply false. Bill Self was quoted yesterday as saying that Frank Martin told him at the Big 12 tournament that a move to South Carolina was a likely scenario. Also, Frank's top recruit signed an aid agreement rather than a LOI. It's pretty clear that Frank Martin was doing much the same as what Mike Anderson did last year to Mizzou. He's been gone for a month or two and was already recruiting for his future job.

[sterlingice]

I prefer the "He'd rather go to the SEC and keep beating Mizzou" answer better, anyways

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I prefer the "He'd rather go to the SEC and keep beating Mizzou" answer better, anyways

SI

Yes, that argument does have some validity this year.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's an ominous sign for both the institution and the conference under turmoil when a coach like Frank Martin leaves that program to what most would see as a step down and could politely be termed a lateral move.



That's simply false. Bill Self was quoted yesterday as saying that Frank Martin told him at the Big 12 tournament that a move to South Carolina was a likely scenario. Also, Frank's top recruit signed an aid agreement rather than a LOI. It's pretty clear that Frank Martin was doing much the same as what Mike Anderson did last year to Mizzou. He's been gone for a month or two and was already recruiting for his future job.

An ominous sign for the conference? Now you're just being dramatic. So was it an ominous sign when Anderson left Missouri for Arkansas and Haith left Miami for Missouri? Of course not. You're trying to skew the facts to support your viewpoint, but that simply isn't the case here. Frank Martin wasn't happy with his AD. It's been common knowledge for a while now.

Are you sure Bill Self said the Big 12 tournament? Per 810's Soren Petro, Bill said he spoke with Frank Martin after their NCAA tournament game against Syracuse. The South Carolina job didn't even come available until after the Big 12 tournament had been finished.

Here was the quote from Self; “I spoke to him last week, after the (loss in NCAA) tournament, telling him congratulations on another great year,” Self said. “He told me this could be a possibility. I don’t know what the situation is down there, but I think he left a good situation, so he must feel this is a really good situation for him personally.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by britrock88

So you mean to say there are four women's basketball teams?

Looks like it this year. Also means tough to complain about the men's side of things for lack of good games. There might be some ugly closing out jobs by teams, but at least they have a chance.

[DeToxRox]

This seems shady as hell. Michigan State's AD is giving advice to a Michigan player who is dealing with going pro or not. Whether the advice is good or not is irrelevant; that is a huge conflict of interest.

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@Trey_Burke3 My advice, believe in YOUR heart & mind, everything else is interference. People u seek out is better than those that seek u.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

This seems shady as hell. Michigan State's AD is giving advice to a Michigan player who is dealing with going pro or not. Whether the advice is good or not is irrelevant; that is a huge conflict of interest.

Mark Hollis ‏ @MSUAD

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@Trey_Burke3 My advice, believe in YOUR heart & mind, everything else is interference. People u seek out is better than those that seek u.

I would read more into it if was actual conversation versus what appears to be some random tweet. Also, the tweet itself is going against its own advice unless Burke sought him out in the first place.

[MrBug708]

Shabazz is the truth

[terpkristin]

Yeah that 49 was the Terps. Lost brutally to Notre Dame.

/tk

[cartman]

John Groce moves from Ohio U to Illinois.

Illinois hires John Groce as next men’s basketball coach - Chicago Sun-Times

[Kodos]

Here's hoping he fails miserably.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Danny Manning apparently taking the Tulsa head coaching job. This is a BIG loss for coach Self and KU. Danny was probably the best assistant not just in the conference, but in the country. Most were surprised he hadn't left sooner.

Danny Manning agrees to be coach at Tulsa, sources say - ESPN

Also, per Dave Telep, Devonta Pollard is down to Georgetown, Mizzou, and Texas. Would love to have that kid in our front line with Laurence Bowers next year.

Shabazz also cut his list to three last night. UCLA, Duke, and Kentucky.

[cartman]

Rumors are coming out of Dallas that Larry Brown is interested in the head coaching job at SMU, as they prepare to head to the Big East.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews....ed-to-smu.html

[DataKing]

It's a shame to see Danny leave KU, but by all accounts it is long overdue and I am genuinely happy for him. No doubt Self had a bit to do with him landing that job, seeing how it was his program for three years. I think I may just become a bit of a Golden Hurricane fan.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by cartman

John Groce moves from Ohio U to Illinois.

Illinois hires John Groce as next men’s basketball coach - Chicago Sun-Times

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Danny Manning apparently taking the Tulsa head coaching job. This is a BIG loss for coach Self and KU. Danny was probably the best assistant not just in the conference, but in the country. Most were surprised he hadn't left sooner.

Danny Manning agrees to be coach at Tulsa, sources say - ESPN

The timing is bad but good for Manning. He's one hell of an assistant who is credited with the huge coaching improvements our big men see seemingly every year. Big loss for KU but he deserves a shot like this.

SI

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Danny Manning apparently taking the Tulsa head coaching job. This is a BIG loss for coach Self and KU. Danny was probably the best assistant not just in the conference, but in the country. Most were surprised he hadn't left sooner.

Danny Manning agrees to be coach at Tulsa, sources say - ESPN

Also, per Dave Telep, Devonta Pollard is down to Georgetown, Mizzou, and Texas. Would love to have that kid in our front line with Laurence Bowers next year.

Shabazz also cut his list to three last night. UCLA, Duke, and Kentucky.

So MBBF, would you say this is a BIG loss for the Big 12 and Manning likely left because of conference instability?

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

So MBBF, would you say this is a BIG loss for the Big 12 and Manning likely left because of conference instability?

It's clearly the fault of Texas.

[MrBug708]

All I want for Christmas is Shabazz

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

So MBBF, would you say this is a BIG loss for the Big 12 and Manning likely left because of conference instability?

I would say it is a big loss for the conference. He's someone that the conference foes and KU fans identify with the old conference, which was much more stable than the current iteration.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

All I want for Christmas is Shabazz

I knew he wasn't going to pick UNLV, so I'm not upset by our not making the final three.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Izulde

I knew he wasn't going to pick UNLV, so I'm not upset by our not making the final three.

I think Nevada had more talent than LA did this year

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

So MBBF, would you say this is a BIG loss for the Big 12 and Manning likely left because of conference instability?

Originally Posted by dawgfan

It's clearly the fault of Texas.

lol

[Radii]

North Carolina Tar Heels' John Henson, Harrison Barnes, Kendall Marshall to enter draft - ESPN

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Radii

North Carolina Tar Heels' John Henson, Harrison Barnes, Kendall Marshall to enter draft - ESPN

Rebuilding year! My favorite. Strickland will be our lone senior next year. And I have little idea what our frontcourt will look like (McAdoo-???-Reggie at this point, but we can't count on having McAdoo!).

[Butter]

UNC will probably get Oriakhi... they'll be fine.

And if not... call the fucking waaaahmbulance.

[britrock88]

A good friend of mine apparently knows someone in the McAdoo family and says he's set on leaving, despite the advice of his parents.

(I can't believe I'm posting this.)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Florida guard Erving Walker charged in theft of taco - ESPN

[MJ4H]

haha

[Wolfpack]

If McAdoo goes and Duke doesn't get Shabazz, you could actually pick someone other than Duke or Carolina for both of the top spots in the ACC and not have someone look at you as crazy. What's more nerve-wracking is that NC State would vault into "trendy pick" status for the ACC next year. I'm not sure how to handle that.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Florida guard Erving Walker charged in theft of taco - ESPN

$3 taco from a street vendor? And then "just playing around". When the guy calls the cops, he's no longer "just playing around".

My silly comment before reading the story: "Must have been one of those doritos tacos"

SI

[DeToxRox]

Pretty uninspiring hire by K-State, as they name Bruce Weber their new HC.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Pretty uninspiring hire by K-State, as they name Bruce Weber their new HC.

He'll be a good fit there. Manhattan is a good place to coach if you're trying to get away from the media hounds.

[TroyF]

Congrats to the OSU women's team. The WNIT is not normally something to go overboard about, but considering the circumstances they played in this year, it's a nice story they won it.

I posted this in the college thread this year, but if you aren't in Stillwater, you just have no clue how much the two plane crashes have impacted the university. Congrats to the team.

[Lathum]

The Brewery | Terrence Ross makes sound decision to enter NBA draft | Seattle Times Newspaper

Terrance Ross goes pro. I think he is going to be a really solid pro. A Rip Hamilton type player.

[cartman]

J'Covan Brown makes it official that he is entering the draft. That leaves the Horns with 6 scholarship players, all of them freshmen last season. There are at least 2 freshmen coming in, C Cameron Ridley, and PG Javan Felix. They are also still in the hunt for SF Devonta Pollard. Anyway you shape it, it is gonna be a really young team.

[cartman]

Apparently Jim Christian is leaving TCU to take the newly opened job at Ohio U.

[MylesKnight]

Originally Posted by cartman

Apparently Jim Christian is leaving TCU to take the newly opened job at Ohio U.

Very interesting. MAC instead of the Big 12? There has to be more to this...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MylesKnight

Very interesting. MAC instead of the Big 12? There has to be more to this...

/he sees the writting on the wal and knows the Big 12 is doomed. Once a powerhouse like Mizzou bolts its all downhill from there

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Pretty uninspiring hire by K-State, as they name Bruce Weber their new HC.

Definitely an uninspiring hire. The KSU fans I've talked to seem to think the AD is hiring him based solely on his reputation of running a "clean" program. The theory is that the AD is looking to move on and trying to enhance his reputation as running a clean athletic department.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

/he sees the writting on the wal and knows the Big 12 is doomed. Once a powerhouse like Mizzou bolts its all downhill from there

Or TCU just sucks at basketball. It's not like this is a big secret.

[cartman]

He's getting the same salary at Ohio that he had at TCU. He was very successful in the MAC with Kent State before going to TCU, so maybe he sees it as less stress, same money, and going back to a comfort zone. TCU definitely didn't make many waves in the MWC while he was there.

[MrBug708]

Hoping on some good news with Tony Parker