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  • phillyfan23
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 2324

    #16
    Re: Run total differential?

    Originally posted by jim416
    Yeah, the frustration level. Heck, I wanna have some fun and still have a good game. Never in my life, after the event, did I believe I'd see so many guys playing on LEGEND. And the same thing is happening to most of them. Payback!!!

    ya but the thing is I am feeling challenged on Legend. The complaint is not that the level is too HARD, but that it might not be too realistic. Again, that is still up in the air.

    I am 8-5 in my season soo it's definitely not too hard for me....but the issue I'm dealing with is that the cpu might not let us stretch our lead when up by four or five, and suddenly that 5 run lead becomes a 2 run lead. Most likelihood, you'll still win the game, but the organic feel is gone.

    That's the issue...not overall difficulty.

    If I am getting beat consistenly by 3 runs plus and my record with the defending champs is 3-10....THEN I know LEGEND isn't for me.
    But it's not like that....

    That's not what this thread is trying to investigate at ALL....

    I hope you understand what I mean.

    My Sliders:

    pitch speed 8/10
    no guess pitch
    no power swing

    contact 0/10
    solid hits 0/10
    power 3/10
    timing 0/10

    Cpu sliders:
    contact 3/10
    timing 8/10
    solid hits 5/10
    power 3/10

    PLUS i halved all of my pitcher's control by half.so I can issue more walks.

    so it's not a difficulty issue.
    Last edited by phillyfan23; 03-19-2009, 11:21 PM.

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    • BigWilly
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 454

      #17
      Re: Run total differential?

      Well, to the OP...I'm not going to suggest there is a comeback AI, but I have a sneaking suspicion there's *something* going on. There's the occasional train wreck where you're winning a game and all of a sudden you can't get out. Better yet, sometimes you can't throw a strike. Maybe it's the confidence attributes overdone. Don't know. Doesn't happen often enough to me to make me think is deliberate coding, but when it happens it can at times have the feeling of being scripted.

      But an interesting thing I've noticed in my season (veteran difficulty). When I was scoring ~4 runs/game over 20 games, I had an ERA of ~3.80. In the past 20 games, I've averaged 5.9 runs/game, but have given up 5.8 runs/game. So, as my hitting has improved, my pitching has gotten worse. And by a huge amount. I haven't changed the sliders or the difficulty. And I don't believe I'm getting worse at pitching the more I play. So it's either a coincidence (a fairly big one given it's a 40 game sample size), or there's something to the theory that there may be some inherent advantages given to the CPU when it's behind. I'm not making any conclusions yet, but it's just apparent enough for me to wonder about it.

      It's ok I suppose, for me, as my games are almost always very competitive. But the offenses are getting better and better (mine and CPUs), to the point that batting averages are getting a little out of control. And I don't want to drop my hitting sliders any, as clearly, I need every run I can get when the CPU is averaging now 5.8 runs/game over the last 20.

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      • jim416
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 10606

        #18
        Re: Run total differential?

        Originally posted by phillyfan23
        I am 8-5 in my season soo it's definitely not too hard for me....but the issue I'm dealing with is that the cpu might not let us stretch our lead when up by four or five, and suddenly that 5 run lead becomes a 2 run lead. Most likelihood, you'll still win the game, but the organic feel is gone.

        PhillyFan, I bet if everyone was 100% honest, didn't exaggerate, you'd be one of the few that has a winning record on LEGEND. I'm reading guys who are 1-7 , for example, who I would bet would be 2-14, then 3-21 after too long. And STILL wonder what the heck is going on. That's all I'm saying. HOF is really tough this year too.

        I really don't think a gamer should ever feel like they should blow out the CPU on LEGEND as it's going to take every advantage to beat you. And I think that's what people aren't realizing. It's not a comeback code. It's a b#$th is what it is.

        You know what my first score was on LEGEND? I quit when I was down 12-0 in the 6th. Why put myself through that? No comeback there. The CPU is just going to score and score on every mistake made. Just because you get a lead.....it's not safe. The CPU is going to score and usually score a lot. Now maybe you can shut down the CPU, but truth be told, I bet LEGEND is kicking butt with most guys.

        Anyway, later.

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        • JT30
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2123

          #19
          Re: Run total differential?

          Originally posted by jcern23
          i don't care who agrees or who doesnt but I appreciate the backup philly as you and I are just show fans wanting the producers to check it out thats all. No whining or 100 page box scores not gonna happen, I might have alot of time on my hand but most of it I like to spend playing.
          You want the producers to check it out? You do realize they designed the game right? I would imagine they know how the game works and how it was programmed.....correct?

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          • brunnoce
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 4133

            #20
            Re: Run total differential?

            i think we all need a pitching lesson with Countryboy...
            becasue if he cracked it(managed to hold a big lead and evan increase it) it means its definatly doable in the game...and thats all i need to hear.
            so, as for now ill hit on Legend and pitch on HoF... its gonna suck to change level every half inning, but if thats what it takes to get to my confort level, im definatly doing it.
            Last edited by brunnoce; 03-20-2009, 06:33 AM.
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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52858

              #21
              Re: Run total differential?

              I don't think its comeback ai/rubberband ai or anything along the lines. I truly think the whole thing lies in not only the ability of the gamer but also the patience of the gamer. Also, I wonder if people are pitching in patterns and are getting caught in the later innings. I don't know, but given my personal success on default Legend, I, not saying its fact, but I can rule out, 100%, rubberband ai/comeback ai/cheating/whatever

              I'm 8-6 thus far on Legend. I've blown out the cpu, been blown out, have blown 2 saves(won one of the games in extras) and have comeback to win. You have to stay on top of things, pay attention to whats going on, and not "panic".

              There are a host of factors that come into play in baseball and I wonder how much "attention" gamers are giving each of those. Just my .02
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              • brunnoce
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 4133

                #22
                Re: Run total differential?

                Country my issue is with those inning when ure pitching really well and leading the game by a large margin than out of nothing the AI just start hammering everything, not chansing any kind of junk and it seems they know what ure throwing to them every single pitch evan if ure trying to mix things up and pitch diferently....
                what do u do once u give up some hits back to back, and u start feeling the AI is locked on?
                whats your tip on that?

                ive tried mound visists, bring a reliver and everything u can think of...evan pitch around...no success...
                they aways come back big in those innings...4-5-6 runs..and your big lead is gone.
                Last edited by brunnoce; 03-20-2009, 08:15 AM.
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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52858

                  #23
                  Re: Run total differential?

                  Originally posted by brunnoce
                  Country my issue is with those inning when ure pitching really well and leading the game by a large margin than out of nothing the AI just start hammering everything, not chansing any kind of junk and it seems they know what ure throwing to them every single pitch evan if ure trying to mix things up and pitch diferently....
                  what do u do once u give up some hits back to back, and u start feeling the AI is locked on?
                  whats your tip on that?

                  ive tried mound visists, bring a reliver and everything u can think of...evan pitch around...no success...
                  they aways come back big in those innings...4-5-6 runs..and your big lead is gone.
                  Sometimes there isn't anything you can do.

                  I just stick with what I'm doing. I know that sounds too simple and ineffective, but its what I do. The only changes I may do is find the pitch or two I've been successful with(pitcher has command of) and use those exclusively to help get out of the inning. Leave the weak pitches alone. I may toss over to the bases a few times more than normal just to feel as though I have control of the situation. Probably nothing more than a placebo thing, but it gets me back into mindset that I'm in control and I like to think it frustrates the hitter. Again, its all in my head probably, but it works.

                  But like I said, sometimes there's nothing you can do. Sometimes you just have to chalk one up to the opponent and move on to the next game.
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                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                  • brunnoce
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 4133

                    #24
                    Re: Run total differential?

                    i c man. thanx
                    btw, how your team ERA so far?
                    i had mine at an astronomic 5.90
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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52858

                      #25
                      Re: Run total differential?

                      Originally posted by brunnoce
                      i c man. thanx
                      btw, how your team ERA so far?
                      i had mine at an astronomic 5.90
                      I honestly don't know off the top of my head, as I haven't looked at it since the D-Back series. My guess would be around 3.80 to 4.10. Somewhere in that neighborhood.
                      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                      • brunnoce
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4133

                        #26
                        Re: Run total differential?

                        thats amazing man
                        amazing!
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52858

                          #27
                          Re: Run total differential?

                          Originally posted by brunnoce
                          thats amazing man
                          amazing!
                          thanks.
                          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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