Run total differential?

[jcern23]

Ok in the mist of the March Madness and my 1st 100 or so games of the show I have heed and hawd about the comeback ai trying my hardest not to see it because I love this game and have great respect for the producers and renewed respect for alot of OS members as well. Although, after a ton of games on Legend level and talking with people that play on all levels I will have to say that I know we have a little problem. I have won big, lost big, blown close games, won close games, but realize now that the computer will come close too matching your run total 80 - 90 percent of the time. It does not matter what point in the game, and I play on the hardest level, lets say for example your in a 1-1 game if you score 4 runs in an inning the CPU will be much improved the next time you take the mound and if not that inning within the next couple. Am I sayin this happens every game NO! Is this game very close to 100 percent realistic? YES which is RIDICULOUS!!!!! but to the extent that the CPU or Human hit when theyre down in this game NO! They have taken it to a level that is unrealistic.( again not shouting at SCEA cuz they hav done something amazing here) I am not complaining, not whining just wanting to put it out there so that SCEA who greatfully unlike any other company comes to see what their consumers think, sees this and realizes that its so close to perfect but hopefully can take a slight critisizm.

[JT30]

Re: Run total differential?

I'm actually shocked you have played 100 games in 2-3 weeks. Do you have a life outside of the video game?

[phillyfan23]

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I have seen the same thing and I initially thought that there wasn't an issue. At this point I am still not 100 percent sure what's going on, but I'm leaning to the point that there IS some kind of mechanism of rubber band Ai.

I'm 8-5 using the phils in my legend season, and my sliders are pretty tilted toward the CPU.

I've won 6-2 , 5-1 in my season but I actually did a test as me using Hamels against the Pirates. I saved the game when it was 2-0 me after 4 innings and tried my hardest to stretch the lead. I played maybe a total of 15-17 games from the 4th inning one and I won MORE than 4 runs ONCE, where I tacked on 3 runs top of 9th and got real lucky bottom of 9th.

I actually lowered the cpu sliders in most of these games for testing purposes .Anyways, I had no problem stretching out the lead
as I did that in basically 95 percent of the games, but as soon as it hit a certain limit ( 5 run lead) the cpu will mount a comeback. Sometimes they just score 1-2 runs in the game, but it doesn't feel natural that the game won't let you stretch the lead on a more consistent basis.

Again, I love this game, this is my most anticipated game of the year but I propose some of you that are willing to test this game on Legend mode or Hof mode.

Play a game in you SEASON( important) and try to get out to a 5 run lead using the yankees/red sox CC or Beckett against the lowest rated hitting/pitching team ( A's/Giants) and use their 5th starter. THis will allow ytou more often than not to get that 5 run lead.

Now once you get that 5 run lead...do an in-game save.

Load up your game, and continue and play the game for 10 times to see what happens.


If 9 times out of 10 , with lowered cpu sliders, you can't STRETCH the 5 run lead, there is something wrong IMO.

But say 3/4 times you do stretch that lead...seems pretty natural to me.

Hopefully this thread doesn't get closed as we are just trying to get a collection of gamers to assure each other if there is a problem or not. And the guys that claim to see this issue, let's keep it civil and voice your concerns in the appropriate manner.

Let's do some testing folks !

Riz

[phillyfan23]

Re: Run total differential?

I'm actually shocked you have played 100 games in 2-3 weeks. Do you have a life outside of the video game?

is this necessary? if you don't want to join in the discussion do you have to be this ignorant?

please man......

[JT30]

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is this necessary? if you don't want to join in the discussion do you have to be this ignorant?

please man......

Not quite sure what your testing is out to prove or what you hope comes out of it actually

[phillyfan23]

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Not quite sure what your testing is out to prove or what you hope comes out of it actually

that's fine....this is just a way to test things out and see the cpu logic on a certain situation. Maybe we can see things, maybe we won't.

My issue is you belittling Jcern without any kind of provocation on his part.....Do you think that's appropriate ?

[jim416]

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Phillyfan,

How's it goin'? Send me a PM with your email. You're missin' my good music of the day. I lost your email when my computer crashed.

Me, play on LEGEND? I tested LEGEND at the event. That was enough for me. It's pure suicide.

I've already done my own tests, but it's on VET and am quite happy with it. Wish I could help.

[JT30]

Re: Run total differential?

that's fine....this is just a way to test things out and see the cpu logic on a certain situation. Maybe we can see things, maybe we won't.

My issue is you belittling Jcern without any kind of provocation on his part.....Do you think that's appropriate ?

I wasnt belittling him at all... I was actually surprised that anyone could play that many games in a short period of time. Maybe he doesnt work, or is taking time off.. I dont know. But my life gets in the way of me trying to play this game as much as I would like.

In any event, in regards to the "testing"... I just dont see what this will prove whether you see something or not.

[jcern23]

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No, I do work I just love the game and play a ton and still do. Doesnt matter who says what about me I just want to get it out there whats happening with the legend level or the game for that matter. As I said there are alot of people who had convinced me theres no problem who I thank for giving me patience for more testing and want to believe but just can't based on consistent results. i don't care who agrees or who doesnt but I appreciate the backup philly as you and I are just show fans wanting the producers to check it out thats all. No whining or 100 page box scores not gonna happen, I might have alot of time on my hand but most of it I like to spend playing.

[jim416]

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Just a thought. I would be lucky to be within five runs of the CPU if I played on LEGEND. You guys can test this, but we sat around at the event and tried to beat this level and it's just flat out tough, merciless, if not impossible for "normal" gamers (like me).

I don't know how many games it would take to come to the realization that LEGEND is what it is. A mode that is going to test you to the limit and you better be flat out on your game, every game. LEGEND is for those guys who can beat HALO in three hours.

But, what do I know, I stayed at a Holliday Inn last night.

Anyways.....good luck.

[jcern23]

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Jim, You have a point. Is Legend just for an exibition to see what teams you can beat and test you to the limit. That is what I am trying to figure out with this thread. I would love to drop down to HOF and play 162 if it is going to be realistic with my skill level. Although, from what I hear it is happening at all levels for the most part. Now, do I know if the people who testify these results are playing the game the way you and I do. NO I have no clue, you are one of the people that has not seen a problem and gives me hope that this is a legend level problem and I can have HOF sliders and get off to a season. Phily and I went as far last year too adjusting pitcher attributes and we probably will this year too if we have too.

[jcern23]

Re: Run total differential?

Although I don't know what we would adjust besides clutch rating

[jim416]

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Jim, You have a point. Is Legend just for an exibition to see what teams you can beat and test you to the limit. That is what I am trying to figure out with this thread. I would love to drop down to HOF and play 162 if it is going to be realistic with my skill level. Although, from what I hear it is happening at all levels for the most part. Now, do I know if the people who testify these results are playing the game the way you and I do. NO I have no clue, you are one of the people that has not seen a problem and gives me hope that this is a legend level problem and I can have HOF sliders and get off to a season. Phily and I went as far last year too adjusting pitcher attributes and we probably will this year too if we have too.

You have to take into consideration each gamers ability. If it's happening on all levels, it sure isn't happening to me. I'm completely comfortable where I am right now. The sliders have an impact. Drop to HOF (and that's still a level I personally wouldn't go near, but it's because I just consider myself average), drop your four hitting sliders all the way to the left and leave the CPU alone (on default).

These are by no means scientific sliders, but more to let some of the guys know that drastic slider settings don't mean drastic results in each category. They are more subtle, but definitely noticeable. But, that's just for me.

But, man, not you, but guys are posting on here that they are playing on LEGEND and I haven't a clue why for most of them. Most of the guys are having a hell of a time, and I just gotta laugh, sorry. This game plays tough on all levels this year. Heck, if I had to go down to ROOKIE to get it to work for me, I would.

[Jackdog]

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You have to take into consideration each gamers ability. If it's happening on all levels, it sure isn't happening to me. I'm completely comfortable where I am right now. The sliders have an impact. Drop to HOF (and that's still a level I personally wouldn't go near, but it's because I just consider myself average), drop your four hitting sliders all the way to the left and leave the CPU alone (on default).

These are by no means scientific sliders, but more to let some of the guys know that drastic slider settings don't mean drastic results in each category. They are more subtle, but definitely noticeable. But, that's just for me.

But, man, not you, but guys are posting on here that they are playing on LEGEND and I haven't a clue why for most of them. Most of the guys are having a hell of a time, and I just gotta laugh, sorry. This game plays tough on all levels this year. Heck, if I had to go down to ROOKIE to get it to work for me, I would.

It's not happening to me either Jim. I'm playing about 4 games a day and loving it. I'm not going anywhere close to LEGEND. Life's too damn short for that.

[jim416]

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It's not happening to me either Jim. I'm playing about 4 games a day and loving it. I'm not going anywhere close to LEGEND. Life's too damn short for that.

Yeah, the frustration level. Heck, I wanna have some fun and still have a good game. Never in my life, after the event, did I believe I'd see so many guys playing on LEGEND. And the same thing is happening to most of them. Payback!!!