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Trying to create the triangle offense playbook
So i want to run a triangle based offense in 2k i know that most of the bulls plays from the 90's are in the game so i added those are they any other plays i should add as well?? i need about ten more plays to add.NBA:Philadelphia 76ers
NFL:Philadelphia Eagles
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http://www.operationsports.com/taild...-offense-2k13/Originally posted by Dogslax41Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard. -
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Thanks for the link.
I think this year another important thing could be modify it's the initiate game.
You can choose your player to initiate the game like Odom or James and it is really good, thanks 2k. But i don't know if it is Jordan or Pippen who should better initiate the game?
And other thing, i found a really good triangle system. It is difficult to use because it is 2 strategy in the same offense. For exemple, 12 quick iso for Harper and 12 quick iso for Jordan. Or, 13 quick up inversed or to finish, 12 swing post for Kukoc and 13 quick up for Harper.
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Watch the video with Music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45cJwBkmA8
All this action have been realized in HOF but not the last one (pro).
I searched to compose 2 systems because i don't think other system are in other team i would like to work the system give in the beginning.
I am sure that it lakes some system, for exemple for Horace Grant you can see that 2k give a priority in second position High Post, but it correspond to any system, or cutter for Pippen, it's absurd because there is no cutter strategy....
there is a mystery 
nevertheirless i'm happy to find the system of the video i'm still not able to win in HOF due to those system but i can say you that AI is really disturbing when it works, it is magic!!!Last edited by PJBrownHeat; 12-01-2012, 11:58 AM.Comment
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Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook
I think it's pretty easy to create loosely-based Triangle action by just calling Quick plays, too.
Use the Quick Post to put your best player in Post up position as you're bringing the ball upcourt. A wing player should automatically go to the strongside corner. From there, you can either pass directly into the post, or to your corner player (and from there into the post). When the ball is in your post player's hands, call a Quick Isolation. The corner man and player near the top of the key will now cut past your post player. From there, you can either work the isolated post player, or pass it out if a double comes from the guys defending the cutters.


There are any number of combinations you can run just from that single action.Last edited by yourfavestoner; 12-01-2012, 12:43 PM.Comment
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How do you choose who to initiate the offense and how do you know who is able to initiate it? Does this have anything to do with those plays that have (B) or (S) at the end of their names? If not, do you know what they are for?Thanks for the link.
I think this year another important thing could be modify it's the initiate game.
You can choose your player to initiate the game like Odom or James and it is really good, thanks 2k. But i don't know if it is Jordan or Pippen who should better initiate the game?
And other thing, i found a really good triangle system. It is difficult to use because it is 2 strategy in the same offense. For exemple, 12 quick iso for Harper and 12 quick iso for Jordan. Or, 13 quick up inversed or to finish, 12 swing post for Kukoc and 13 quick up for Harper.
<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c-hmty8uuGk" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
Watch the video with Music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45cJwBkmA8
All this action have been realized in HOF but not the last one (pro).
I searched to compose 2 systems because i don't think other system are in other team i would like to work the system give in the beginning.
I am sure that it lakes some system, for exemple for Horace Grant you can see that 2k give a priority in second position High Post, but it correspond to any system, or cutter for Pippen, it's absurd because there is no cutter strategy....
there is a mystery 
nevertheirless i'm happy to find the system of the video i'm still not able to win in HOF due to those system but i can say you that AI is really disturbing when it works, it is magic!!!
Yeah, the cutting intelligence of the AI leaves much to be desired. The Lakers ran that play quite a lot when Phil Jackson was there and Kobe would usually cut to the rim and finish with a layup. You could try increasing the backdoor cut tendency OR dribbling with the high post player towards the cutter OR use the quick play to get him to cut to the rim OR use the RS to achieve the same thing OR you could start the play, then quickly switch to the cutter, so that you are playing off ball player lock with him, and then you can decide whether it's best to take a jumpshot or to cut to the rim for a layup.Originally posted by Dogslax41Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.Comment
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Pippen & Kukoc should be the initiators. Jordan was the strong side forward in the offense. Pippen was the "push" or "lead" guard in the triangle. Also change everyone's "Touches" tendency to 20-25. Call Plays at the "moment of truth" too.Thanks for the link.
I think this year another important thing could be modify it's the initiate game.
You can choose your player to initiate the game like Odom or James and it is really good, thanks 2k. But i don't know if it is Jordan or Pippen who should better initiate the game?
And other thing, i found a really good triangle system. It is difficult to use because it is 2 strategy in the same offense. For exemple, 12 quick iso for Harper and 12 quick iso for Jordan. Or, 13 quick up inversed or to finish, 12 swing post for Kukoc and 13 quick up for Harper.
<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c-hmty8uuGk" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
Watch the video with Music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45cJwBkmA8
All this action have been realized in HOF but not the last one (pro).
I searched to compose 2 systems because i don't think other system are in other team i would like to work the system give in the beginning.
I am sure that it lakes some system, for exemple for Horace Grant you can see that 2k give a priority in second position High Post, but it correspond to any system, or cutter for Pippen, it's absurd because there is no cutter strategy....
there is a mystery 
nevertheirless i'm happy to find the system of the video i'm still not able to win in HOF due to those system but i can say you that AI is really disturbing when it works, it is magic!!!Comment
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Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook
But Payton or Stockton or other PG will defend on Pippen.
Pippen.
Marc Jackson defended on Pippen in 98.
I will try to change touches to 20-25 but i call every strategy, i don't play in auto play calling so tell me if it's change something nevertheirless i'm curious about that.
and sorry but 13 quick up was a strategy often used so it is impossible to remove this strategy.
In my video a lot of jumpshot are successed thanks to this strategy. Just a difference i do this strategy in the inverse.
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@yourfavestoner
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13 quick up for Buechler and a second for pippen, pippen goes backdoor!!
Call a 41 up and don't make the pass at the end, becareful, make the pass to the post at the moment of the backdoor.
I think we have to play with a 2 TV, one for the game and another for a real game of the bulls and try to find each offense, each substitution, each Defense, each time out.Last edited by PJBrownHeat; 02-27-2013, 06:08 AM.Comment
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31 cross up was a play for the moment of truth in the end of the game.Comment
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Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook
A good solution to play triangle offense is to watch a game in the same time you play to 2k13 with a second TV and an another system to watch the game.
1. You play stop and try to analise the strategy.
2. You search the same strategy, or so whoever looks like the most (by defaut a lot of triangle system are in fact in the game, contrary to what i believed before).
3. Of course I think 52 roll (Bulls 98) for other classic Bulls, Pinch Option (Wolves), Mamba Iso (LAL), 12 quick iso and 13 quick up for Bulls 98, of course are important strategy.
4. I discovered too a 77 Mil strategy.
5. 86 Bulls playbook is a small treasure 12 up Single and 12 up Double for Steeve Kerr.
I'm playing a game against the Miami Heat with Bulls 98 and the score is tied to 77/77 in the end of the 3rd quarter 4*12 in All Star slider by defaut. I save the party. An interresting thing is the number of Off rebond for me, 9 to 5. A bad stat for Miami, just two 3 pt tented and one for Allen.Last edited by PJBrownHeat; 12-14-2012, 08:15 AM.Comment
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i won the game easily 107/96. 15 off for me and only 2 for the heat.
rodman 17 reb
jordan 34 pt 12 ***
it was huge this game is in fact better than 2k12.
Sorry Lebron i beat you.
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Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook
Or, you could just visit this site:A good solution to play triangle offense is to watch a game in the same time you play to 2k13 with a second TV and an another system to watch the game.
1. You play stop and try to analise the strategy.
2. You search the same strategy, or so whoever looks like the most (by defaut a lot of triangle system are in fact in the game, contrary to what i believed before).
The triangle offense has been used in the NBA for almost two decades, yet what actually sets this offense apart from others is rarely discus...
After reading a huge chunk of this blog, I can see that you are running a crude version of the backdoor step in the first video, since the weakside wing is already at the free throw line instead of cutting to it. Unfortunately, since the Lakers have abandoned the Triangle and given 2K's complete lack of depth and accuracy in regards to their playbooks for classic teams, 2k have absolutely no incentive whatsoever to give us a semi-accurate triangle offense from now on. It would be a luxury for sim players, and that just doesn't happen nowadays.
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LOL, I couldn't believe they took that out. That play is the starting block for running the triangle (in normal circumstances). If they bring it back, they need to work on the pinch post plays and the cutting that is involved. There shouldn't be a passing line to instruct the user to pass. The PG, should just cut to his spot on the floor, looking to score on the cut. In addition, they need to add in some kind of footwork stat and tie this into being able to make a good handoff to the cutter and then to screen the cutter's man at a good angle (approx 45 degrees). Also, they need the plays to be able to run quicker. In real life, the ball is zipping around, and each pass keys certain players to cut and move on the floor. The passing indicator (or the 'A' icon on Lite) come up far too late. I shouldn't have to pass back to someone and then re-pass because the indicator wasn't quick enough to appear.Last edited by Optik; 12-15-2012, 11:55 AM.Originally posted by Dogslax41Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.Comment
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We can hope someday Shaq era Lakers going to be one of the classic teams. Then maybe.Unfortunately, since the Lakers have abandoned the Triangle and given 2K's complete lack of depth and accuracy in regards to their playbooks for classic teams, 2k have absolutely no incentive whatsoever to give us a semi-accurate triangle offense from now on. It would be a luxury for sim players, and that just doesn't happen nowadays.Comment
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Originally posted by Dogslax41Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.Comment
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Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook
i think he meant the 2000-2002 squad of Lakers wouldn't mind seeing that as well those teams were awesome. The Squad that is the game now is when Shaq just arrived in LA and it was Kobe's second year.NBA:Philadelphia 76ers
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