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  • PJBrownHeat
    Rookie
    • Nov 2012
    • 398

    #16
    Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

    Originally posted by Optik
    Or, you could just visit this site:

    The triangle offense has been used in the NBA for almost two decades, yet what actually sets this offense apart from others is rarely discus...


    After reading a huge chunk of this blog, I can see that you are running a crude version of the backdoor step in the first video, since the weakside wing is already at the free throw line instead of cutting to it. Unfortunately, since the Lakers have abandoned the Triangle and given 2K's complete lack of depth and accuracy in regards to their playbooks for classic teams, 2k have absolutely no incentive whatsoever to give us a semi-accurate triangle offense from now on. It would be a luxury for sim players, and that just doesn't happen nowadays.
    i know this site!! it is just great and perfect.
    To call 3. N.2 pass to the weakside wing who comes across the key to receive the pass, otherwise known as the backdoor step you have to set pass on "total control" and you can do this, but the backdoor doesn't happen!

    but what it disturbs me, it's the fact that triangle system are called LAL .... or Pinch option used by Minnesota, or Black Mamba Iso why those system are not in the offense of the classic bulls and called 96 Bulls ..... and Lakers in 2k12 would had have strategy with Bulls Name and not LAL ....!!!

    I add, look the 96 bulls playbook, there is several times the same strategy, it is fully stupid!!! 4x 42 up strong, 4x low post strategy .... etc etc
    for the 96 bulls, theres is 2 times 13 quick up, 2 times 35 strong post, 34 post, 32 swing post 2 times and we have to change ourselves one more time, other triangle system in other teams !! it begin to be very very nervous!!

    at the same time, i ask me if there is not an issue to think that 2k give us the real triangle system without searching in other playbook team!! But don't worry 2k i discovered that 42 rub was an extremely important triangle strategy in 2k11 and i think this strategy could help us a lot.

    But to finish if you havn't got an order to call a strategy or an other, for example you call a Black Mamba iso at the bad moment, it won't work and not have beneficial effect.
    And for that, i advice you to watch a game of the Bulls at the same time you are playing, to manage you to choose the good strategy!! It's really magic sometimes!!!v the problem is you have to get an other TV with an other HDD and it's hard to change of joystick (i have an onther PS3
    with a lot of game on the HDD).
    It can learn you to take a 3 pt shot with Kukoc for example when he was alone and he decided to shot a 3 pt without reason and have a better feeling for the timing shot.
    Last edited by PJBrownHeat; 12-18-2012, 05:37 AM.

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    • PJBrownHeat
      Rookie
      • Nov 2012
      • 398

      #17
      Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

      I just tried Lal Tri Base Play with NBA 2k12 and total control for passing.

      i saw the backdoor step but only with Steeve Blake not with Fisher. I'm not sure of that but it was interresting.

      Pinch iso was too a classics Bulls system but it really looks like to 12 swing post iso.
      and 2 double show but there is no difference with 31 cross up.
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      • taildog
        MVP
        • Jun 2008
        • 1161

        #18
        Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

        Originally posted by PJBrownHeat
        I just tried Lal Tri Base Play with NBA 2k12 and total control for passing.

        i saw the backdoor step but only with Steeve Blake not with Fisher. I'm not sure of that but it was interresting.

        Pinch iso was too a classics Bulls system but it really looks like to 12 swing post iso.
        and 2 double show but there is no difference with 31 cross up.
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        The Pinch Iso is "guard quckie" and the 2 double show is a "blind pig". Both are in my 2k12 blog
        NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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        • taildog
          MVP
          • Jun 2008
          • 1161

          #19
          Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

          The "2 double show" is different than the "31 cross up" because it has a pick and roll counter option if the shooter isnt open off the screen. Too many people think of the "blind pig" as play. Its really just another a way to form a sideline triangle. The next time you run it and the shooter isnt open off the screen, pass the ball to the low post player and you'll see what I mean.
          NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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          • taildog
            MVP
            • Jun 2008
            • 1161

            #20
            Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

            Try using total control passing using Min Pinch Option for the backdoor step in 2k13. In 2k12 it works better with LAL Direct Line
            NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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            • PJBrownHeat
              Rookie
              • Nov 2012
              • 398

              #21
              Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

              Originally posted by taildog
              Try using total control passing using Min Pinch Option for the backdoor step in 2k13. In 2k12 it works better with LAL Direct Line
              Sorry i tried this weekend on 2k12 and it doesn't work with total control passing!! i don't know where did you see that it works rightly? lol
              maybe you have got a xbox 360 and me a ps3, so that is maybe the reason why, and in this case it's broken for me.
              the worst is that it can never be a backdoor step for jordan because jordan is the first player of the strategy even if he is the point guard!
              I have to go in option, and modify him .....

              i tried with the lakers 2012 it doesn't work with Fisher but it works with Blake (but it's really slow, it happened one time on 5 and it looks like to nothing!!)

              no i think the real thing to get the backdoor step is to play with 53 corner roll and total control passing (second action in the video). It is not excellent but i think it's possible. But when it could work the backdoor pass doesn't work, you don't pass to the good player which is behind you!! What a shame this system is so hard to get or maybe not in the game.
              You can call 12 swing post for kukoc or rodman, and call a 13 quick up for the player at the top of the arc, it really interresting (3rd action in the video)
              I tried the loop pick option in 2k13, it's really better, but the beginning of the strategy is not a triangle offense (not in the video).

              I tried the min pinch option but i don't remember but i think the pass is impossible to do and the player don't make the backdoor!

              The only solution is to dribble with Pippen, call a 12 quick iso for Harper, and 14 reverse iso for Jordan like the 1st action in the video.
              To conclude, maybe bulls strategy are full and other strategy, pinch option, or 2 double show have never been used by Phil Jackson with the Bulls.
              Last edited by PJBrownHeat; 03-21-2013, 03:47 AM.

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              • PJBrownHeat
                Rookie
                • Nov 2012
                • 398

                #22
                Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

                Originally posted by taildog
                The "2 double show" is different than the "31 cross up" because it has a pick and roll counter option if the shooter isnt open off the screen. Too many people think of the "blind pig" as play. Its really just another a way to form a sideline triangle. The next time you run it and the shooter isnt open off the screen, pass the ball to the low post player and you'll see what I mean.
                Sorry but i didn't see what you meant ....

                Originally posted by taildog
                The Pinch Iso is "guard quckie" and the 2 double show is a "blind pig". Both are in my 2k12 blog
                Pinch iso by LAL 2012 but which team used guard quickie?

                but Pinch iso and guard quickie are in fact just aberration of 12 quick iso or 12 swing post.

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                • taildog
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1161

                  #23
                  Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

                  It probably works with blake because his spot up tendancy is lower than fisher's
                  NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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                  • PJBrownHeat
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 398

                    #24
                    Re: Trying to create the triangle offense playbook

                    Originally posted by taildog
                    It probably works with blake because his spot up tendancy is lower than fisher's
                    if we can saying the word "work" because as i told you, it's very slowly, and the worst it is never for Kobe!!

                    nevertheirless, i really discovered in 2k12 that is work a little bit better with 53 corner roll and total control passing. I think if i discovered it last year, my life would have change a lot and NBA 2k13 would have not been in my house!

                    I didn't success the backdoor step with 53 corner roll in 2k12 but it was near at hand, the pass is no good or too much late. I don't think it works better with 2k13!!

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