Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

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  • Kushmir
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 2414

    #1

    Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

    Before I declare this an issue I want to see others' experience with AI bigs. (I play with Philly so there might just be a you-guys-suck section 2K might have coded into the game lol) I've found that if I don't initiate shot blocks they simply dont happen....even worse, my defensively inclined bigs bail out guys with fouls more often than actually change shots....they'll literally go 5 straight games without a block and "might" get 1 in 10 games.

    Why's this an issue? the Sixers don't have much...and Okafor is not a defender but we do have two fairly good shot-blockers (Noel and Jerami Grant)


    I play defense with guards and leave the bigs to themselves, now while the Sixers are certainly not a good defensive team, if I funnel things to my shot-blockers i'm not crazy for wanting to see them block/change shots. Asking users to babysit bigs to make sure they're active isn't a good thing.....
    Last edited by Kushmir; 03-21-2016, 10:34 PM.
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  • ggsimmonds
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jan 2009
    • 11235

    #2
    Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

    They do, but not at the same rate they should imo.

    I have DeAndre Jordan and Thomas Robinson in the frontcourt.
    AI Robinson seems to get much more blocks than Jordan does.

    Not sure what causes it, Jordan is definitely slow reacting to penetration though. I have my POE set to defend the paint and he still stays with his man until it is too late.

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    • HowDareI
      MVP
      • Jan 2012
      • 1900

      #3
      Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

      Sixers are the 2nd best shot-blocking team in the league statistically...

      I played with them with my old SG, and Nerlens and even Jahlil would send everything..now, with my PG who I just got to sign there in Philly...not at all.

      I'm assuming it's to do with one of the patches but compared to how it used to be my AI rotates very slow compared to how it used to.
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      • Hustle Westbrook
        MVP
        • Jan 2015
        • 3113

        #4
        Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

        Sometimes. I just wish the CPU would utilize blocks, verticality and hands up defense more. It seems like the CPU's first instinct is to foul.
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        • nova91
          MVP
          • Oct 2009
          • 2074

          #5
          Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

          Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook
          Sometimes. I just wish the CPU would utilize blocks, verticality and hands up defense more. It seems like the CPU's first instinct is to foul.
          Pretty much.

          I play with the Hornets and Jefferson averages a block a game but more often than not bigs just foul instead of contesting the shot. I played with Tristan Thompson for a season and for every block he'd get he'd get called for a foul.
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          • Kushmir
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 2414

            #6
            Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

            Originally posted by HowDareI
            Sixers are the 2nd best shot-blocking team in the league statistically...

            I played with them with my old SG, and Nerlens and even Jahlil would send everything..now, with my PG who I just got to sign there in Philly...not at all.

            I'm assuming it's to do with one of the patches but compared to how it used to be my AI rotates very slow compared to how it used to.
            Yeah I know *cries* but I get it...the Sixers are horrible and so slow & bad rotations, bail out fouls, few deflections and bad positioning are the result. i'm ok with that too.

            I'm not ok with having to control shot-blockers to make sure they change/block shots. I'm fine with my squad being bad at the things they're bad at--on the flipside...can my guys be good at the things they're good at too?

            Also: Amen Hustle, "Sometimes. I just wish the CPU would utilize blocks, verticality and hands up defense more. It seems like the CPU's first instinct is to foul." I hope the defensive AI not utilizing all its tools is simply a year 1 thing...similar to how the offensive AI did the same in years past....right now you can pump fake (in the paint and on the perimeter) to your hearts delight...

            The pump-fake-with-everyone-until-someone-jumps offense is still a thing....there's no risk/reward. When the fakes dont work, i'd like to see more AI defenders (especially good and elite ones) crowd the offensive player and take away his dribble and strip the ball away as well.
            Last edited by Kushmir; 03-22-2016, 11:29 AM.
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            • Yesh2kdone
              Banned
              • Feb 2015
              • 1412

              #7
              Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

              From this morning - HOF Sim, game one of the conference finals:

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CXo9g6BWLGQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              Good old Serge!

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              • losgotdaprops
                Rookie
                • Feb 2015
                • 29

                #8
                Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                Everything you guys pointed out I also experience, especially the slow close outs on penetrating players which more often then not leads to a foul. Also I don't get as many blocks from behind..my players flail like they're shooing a fly away. lol


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                • Kushmir
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 2414

                  #9
                  Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                  Yesh I was ok with that not being a blocked shot (real shot-blockers dont chase jump shots) but for sure he should have challenged that...

                  That's the shot you want but as defensively inclined as Serge is you'd think that'd be a hands up animation.
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                  • TarHeelPhenom
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 7121

                    #10
                    Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                    Using SIM-Worlds rosters and playing exclusively with point guard on defense(off ball d included) my BIGS definitely block shots.
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                    • Yesh2kdone
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 1412

                      #11
                      Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                      Originally posted by Kushmir
                      Yesh I was ok with that not being a blocked shot (real shot-blockers dont chase jump shots) but for sure he should have challenged that...

                      That's the shot you want but as defensively inclined as Serge is you'd think that'd be a hands up animation.
                      It was just the example I recorded this morning so it was fresh in my mind. That, however, is indicative of my team mates on defence. Shooters get much closer than that, with team mates remaining in that Serge pose as they give up free buckets.

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                      • Benz87
                        #OwnTheFuture
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1320

                        #12
                        Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                        I think this issue stems from the CPU not leaving their assignment to protect the rim. If im playing against the CPU, and they get past my defender on a drive to the rim, a big should automatically focus on that and move towards the hoop to protect/attempt a block. In most cases, they will stand there staring at their man to man assignment with their back to the basket and not even acknowledge the player driving towards the hoop.

                        I've learned I have to manually switch to a big and put them in position to contest at the basket.
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                        • ggsimmonds
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11235

                          #13
                          Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                          You guys try going into defensive matchups and setting the big to play gap offball on their man?

                          I would think that could help them in their rotations

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                          • sleepyshotta
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1018

                            #14
                            Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                            In MyCareer mode in my previous season, Porzingis was 5th in the league in blocks with 2.2per.


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                            • Kushmir
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 2414

                              #15
                              Re: Question: Do your AI bigs block shots?

                              Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                              You guys try going into defensive matchups and setting the big to play gap offball on their man?

                              I would think that could help them in their rotations
                              Yeah I always gap/gap off non-shooting bigs. Doesn't change anything...one look at his defensive plus/minus and defensive rating tells you Noel is elite/active on defense: a shot-blocker and only big in top 10 in steals 2 years in a row. He changes some shots but its super easy to draw fouls on him by pump-faking with average bigs. More importantly since I dont chase shots with him he'll literally go 10 games without a block.

                              i'm torn because I get it...the Sixers need to be bad. I just dont feel like a more active Noel (and Jerami Grant too, btw) means we improve that much.
                              Last edited by Kushmir; 03-22-2016, 03:19 PM.
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