The Official NCAA 14 Flexbone Offense Thread

[thelasthurtknee]

slack, im wondering same. are you seeing the de only go for dive man on triple options? works perfect in practice but in games they never go for qb. ever. im hoping its a slider issue on my end.

also im using basically 22 formations. i find the flex to be better than the wingbone this year. but the wing bone doesnt have near as much auto motion and you can flip plays at line without the personel moving at all. big big advantage for against hum players.

[Thebbc]

As someone whose HS uses the option game, I fell in love with the Flexbone after trying it out. Now that I have more time with it, I'm not as close to it. Does anyone else have issues with the pitching mechanism in the game? Even at the high-school level, our QB is able to pitch the football with a defender in his face, yet if the Pitch read is with-in 1 yard of my QB in the game, it just falls to the ground when I try to pitch it. At least in '13, the QB didn't even pitch it if he couldn't get it there. Just want to see if anyone else knows what I'm talking about, just cost me a game online after Clemson's QB kept screwing up the pitch and the D recovered.

[volwalker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thebbc

As someone whose HS uses the option game, I fell in love with the Flexbone after trying it out. Now that I have more time with it, I'm not as close to it. Does anyone else have issues with the pitching mechanism in the game? Even at the high-school level, our QB is able to pitch the football with a defender in his face, yet if the Pitch read is with-in 1 yard of my QB in the game, it just falls to the ground when I try to pitch it. At least in '13, the QB didn't even pitch it if he couldn't get it there. Just want to see if anyone else knows what I'm talking about, just cost me a game online after Clemson's QB kept screwing up the pitch and the D recovered.

I have had no problems with the pitching mechanism. In fact, I have had several pitches where my QB was being tackled so I don't know what to tell you there other than even if you pitch it with a defender a yard or more ahead of you, you still should have no problem making a solid gain with the A back.

I don't know if you have read the entire thread but what is your opinion on the B back situation?

[Thebbc]

Quote: Originally Posted by volwalker

I have had not problems with the pitching mechanism. In fact I have had several pitches where my QB was being tackled so I don't know what to tell you there other than even if you pitch it with a defender a yard or more ahead of you, you still should have no problem making a solid gain with the A back. I don't know if you have read the entire thread but what is your opinion on the B back situation?

If you're talking about it being inconsistent how his yards are coming, I haven't had a problem with it myself. I actually broke off a 72 YD TD run with a B back to start the game in my dynasty with GSU (Georgia State). So I'm not sure with that one. If there's another issue I missed, fill me in if you don't mind.

But if my QB is being touched at all or is about to on the pitch, especially from the Triple Option, the ball just goes straight on the ground at the QB's feet. I'll go into replay and you can see his arm move out like he's pitching the ball, but there's no ball being pitched. It's nearly impossible to run the option if you don't know where the ball is going to go when you hit the pitch button.

[jejones]

I have my own offline dynasty where I'm using the spread option attack, but me and a buddy of mine are starting a Teambuilder OD with just us two, and we are creating a fresh (80) and junior (85) on both sides of the ball. You all seem like you know more about the flexbone than I do (I'm usually a power running team) so what positions should I make?

I'm using the option run template on TB so I have a quick QB. Would a B back be a waste because the DE Crashes down so much?

[volwalker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thebbc

If you're talking about it being inconsistent how his yards are coming, I haven't had a problem with it myself. I actually broke off a 72 YD TD run with a B back to start the game in my dynasty with GSU (Georgia State). So I'm not sure with that one. If there's another issue I missed, fill me in if you don't mind. But if my QB is being touched at all or is about to on the pitch, especially from the Triple Option, the ball just goes straight on the ground at the QB's feet. I'll go into replay and you can see his arm move out like he's pitching the ball, but there's no ball being pitched. It's nearly impossible to run the option if you don't know where the ball is going to go when you hit the pitch button.

Some of us on here have noticed that the DE goes for the B back alot more than he should resulting in the QB and A backs getting alot more carries than the B back. I am just not seeing the balance like you are I guess. Maybe it is a playcalling problem. It gives me hope that you are not seeing this as much though.

Again I have not seen the pitching problem like you are having.

[thelasthurtknee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thebbc

If you're talking about it being inconsistent how his yards are coming, I haven't had a problem with it myself. I actually broke off a 72 YD TD run with a B back to start the game in my dynasty with GSU (Georgia State). So I'm not sure with that one. If there's another issue I missed, fill me in if you don't mind. But if my QB is being touched at all or is about to on the pitch, especially from the Triple Option, the ball just goes straight on the ground at the QB's feet. I'll go into replay and you can see his arm move out like he's pitching the ball, but there's no ball being pitched. It's nearly impossible to run the option if you don't know where the ball is going to go when you hit the pitch button.

on the b back he means the gives outta triple option. in dyansty mode read defender always goes for the dive back and never the qb. no one can make it work right. works right in practice and is a thing of beauty. idk about season or play now. buy dyansty is very broken for all triples so far. unless there is some change i made that did this but eveyrone is having this issue. i can get alot yards on b back gives or reagular option.

im not seeing ur qb pitch issue either. i can pitch pretty late while getting hit also. with army in two games only had one fumble and it was because it hit arm of defender during pitch. had a few pitches that cause rb to slow down to catch but nothing off the mark like you are seeing.

[Thebbc]

Quote: Originally Posted by volwalker

Some of us on here have noticed that the DE goes for the B back alot more than he should resulting in the QB and A backs getting alot more carries than the B back. I am just not seeing the balance like you are I guess. Maybe it is a playcalling problem. It gives me hope that you are not seeing this as much though. Again I have not seen the pitching problem like you are having.

Ah well, must just be my luck with the pitches.

In my opinion, and this comes from being coached on option responsibility and all that crap, my guess is that's just how it's been coded into the game. Most teams, when coaching against the option, teach the DT and DE to take the Dive Back, in this case, the B Back, instead of the QB. So that's my guess on where that comes from. Only time we switched it was on an Outside Stunt call, which meant the DE now had QB on option, and the OLB was now supposed to take the Dive/B Back. That's just my guess on it based on my knowledge of running the option IRL and having to defend it.