I wasn't saying I disagree with that, I know some people are just getting their fix of the NFL. What I completely disagree with, is that the game won't improve until competition comes. The game has been improving the last two years without competition. Competition would further drive the devs, but trust me they are pretty driven right now and are pushing hard for a sim game of football. The improvements made from Madden 13 to Madden 25 next gen are the most we've seen in 10 years.