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Old 08-17-2009, 08:09 PM   #9
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Re: OS Madden 10 Preview: NFC East

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:45 PM   #10
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I'd get the Redskins up to 8-8, maybe even tied with the Cowboys, but I have that as my order-of-finish prediction as well. Campbell certainly is the fourth-best QB in the division but I don't feel he's awful, and he's not behind either Romo or Manning (depending on who you have in third) by much, IMO. (note - I admit wholly to being a homer with regard to Tony Romo, but nothing Eli Manning has ever done has jumped off the page at me. He's good, though.)

Further, the talent gap between all of these teams isn't that great, IMO.
I agree but won't even try to guess an order. I think those will be the records (with 8-8 being the lowest) but honestly, any of these teams could finish first or last.

Eli deserves credit for that playoff run and winning the SB. Doesn't make him great, but he wasn't just along for the ride. That alone has to put him over Romo and Campbell. But I agree that just watching them play, I still can't put him on the same level as McNabb (no matter what Eagles fans say, lol). But if Campbell plays like he did the first half of last season, he's easily on par with Romo. And that's nothing against Romo. People forget how Campbell played before the oline got dismantled by injury. Gave him lest time to throw and took away his 2nd best option with Cooley staying in to block more.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:22 PM   #11
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my predictions are..

ny giants 11-5
cowboys 10-6
giants 9-7
redskins 6-10

Giants just are a solid team. Eli is a good Qb never does anything great but also doesnt make many mistakes. Running game is good and D is one of the best now with Osi back.

I just like the Cowboys this year. I think the defense is under rated and feel Romo is gonna have a better year than last year. Look for Roy Williams to dominate too.

The Eagles have tons of weapons and will look good for a lot of the year, but McNabb will eventually melt down at one point in the season (always seems to). Also will the D be as good without Dawkins and Jim Johnson (R.I.P.)?

The Redskins looks good on the defensive side. But offensively Campbell isnt as good as the other NFC Qbs. Okay at times but not in the top half of the league. Also his weapons arent as good as all the other teams. Sad they dont have Sean Taylor anymore. Imagine how good hed be right now. Like an Ed Reed.

Anyways those are my predictions but doubt ill be right. haha these things are impossible to guess.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:42 PM   #12
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Re: OS Madden 10 Preview: NFC East

Im gunna go with:

Giants: 11-5
Eagles: 10-6
Cowboys: 8-8
Redskins: 7-9

I just dont think Campbell is the answer in Washington, hense the 7-9 record.

As for the Cowboys I do not see Roy Williams stepping up and big #1 WR he is expected to be.

Giants have Usi back and I believe the WR corp as a group should be able to replace the missing production from Plaxico.

The Eagles to me are the wildcard in this equation. Jim Johnson D is still in place, so the change in DC's wont effect the Eagle besides the emotional effect of losing Jim Johnson. As for the offense, I just dont know how Maclin and Jackson will do this year and I believe if they play to their ability and Westbrook stays healthy they could end up ahead of the Giants at 12-4.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:28 AM   #13
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I think Jason Campbell is just as good as any of the other QB's in division....he's just got a raw deal of playing behind a weak offensive line and no receivers besides Moss and Cooley.....even through all that the Redskins were 6-2 after 8 games last year and when the injuries mounted up the team went downhill.....if healthy they are just as good as anybody else....Eagles.....Giants....Redskins......Cowboys
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:30 AM   #14
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4-12... like last year? The year before? Actually, I can't remember your prediction of the Skins for any year but my guess is they've probably finished every year better than you expected. There's a better chance they'll be competing for a playoff spot late into the season like they usually are... with people saying how bad they are even if they make the playoffs the year before (went to the playoffs twice under Gibbs). Your 7-9 is closer to a low end prediction than 4-12, assuming no serious injuries which would screw up the prediction for any team in this division.

BTW, I wouldn't dare compare Campbell to McNabb who has too long of a resume, and will bite my tongue on Eli who has a ring... but Romo's only shown anything after being able to sit and learn for a while and then toss the ball to TO and Witten (which we'd all agree is better than Santana Moss and Cooley 8 days out of the week). I see no reason to say Campbell and Romo aren't on the same level at this point unless we're talking about a fantasy football draft.
Until a QB has done something in the playoffs - which Romo and Campbell haven't - all you can really go by is numbers and translate it into potential. Romo has put up terrific numbers; Campbell hasn't.

I think another issue for Washington is Portis. He's starting to get banged up pretty good.

I am not saying the Skins don't have players. This whole division has players. And ALL of their records will suffer because they beat up on each other.

The division winner here would go 13-3 in the NFC West.
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Until a QB has done something in the playoffs - which Romo and Campbell haven't - all you can really go by is numbers and translate it into potential. Romo has put up terrific numbers; Campbell hasn't.

I think another issue for Washington is Portis. He's starting to get banged up pretty good.

I am not saying the Skins don't have players. This whole division has players. And ALL of their records will suffer because they beat up on each other.

The division winner here would go 13-3 in the NFC West.
That's a convenient argument for a Cowboys fan. Truth is neither QB has done anything in the playoffs... period. Both have done well when key players around them are healthy. There's a chance JC's key players could get hurt and abandon him again but it's a sure thing that Romo will have to put up those "terrific numbers" without TO, so we'll see how it goes.
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That's a convenient argument for a Cowboys fan. Truth is neither QB has done anything in the playoffs... period. Both have done well when key players around them are healthy. There's a chance JC's key players could get hurt and abandon him again but it's a sure thing that Romo will have to put up those "terrific numbers" without TO, so we'll see how it goes.
I don't know about convenient, but it's pretty fair IMO. I would say the edge would have to go to Romo given his performance as a whole. People like to talk about his late season "chokes" but it's been a team wide epidemic...lol. He's performed in some pressure situations, and for a guy with just a tick under 3 full seasons he's not doing too bad. People who act as though he's nothing but a choke artist hold no more water than those who have him as a top 3-5 QB IMO. (not saying this applies to you directly).

Peyton Manning was nothing but a stat collector early on to people and he's been surrounded by talent as well. I'm not making any comparisons beyond that...lol...my only point being, that it's a tad unfair to hold it against Romo in that regard.

All that said, Romo is the one with the most to prove this year. We'll soon find out what the real deal is. Was Terrell the security blanket who padded his stats, or the shackles that held him back? My guess would be that, as usual, the answer lies somewhere in the middle, but we'll see.

As for the division, I was not wholly surprised to see the Cowboys last. I personally have it like this:

Eagles
Giants
Cowboys
Redskins

Also, I have a feeling that all things being level (injuries, etc) that the real battle to watch will be the Eagles/Giants. They're the most balanced teams (good in all three phases).

Not even sure the Cowboys/Skins will push that hard, to be honest. I just don't see enough bang from Washington's O, and Dallas' D (though it gets talked about less) is more overrated than people make Tony Romo out to be...lol.
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