Yep, my sentiments exactly. They need to release real info and stuff before we start hearing stuff like this. One little nugget of actual info wouldn't hurt. EA is actually hurting themselves because I know 2 people that say they aren't even interested in Madden 11 now because they feel the game is going the arcade route. The Mark Turmell hire, then the "new and innovative take on Madden" comment, then the "take further advantage of consumers" comment, and now we need to simplify the game comments have cause 2 guys I know to say that they aren't even concerned with getting Madden 11 now. Now I'll admit 2 things: 1. This is nothing but 2 guys, but that's just 2 guys that I know. Who knows how many other people that I don't know feel the same way. 2. If Madden 11 is good those 2 guys will probably still buy it, but if you're EA, why even put yourself in the situation for someone to say they're not concerned with your game anymore. If they weren't going to say anything about the game, then they shouldn't have said too much of nothing at all. A lot of people, including myself, have already assumed that madden is trying to be more consumer friendly ie more arcade, simply because we have heard no news to the contrary. I know Ian said they are still focused on being sim, but Ian said a lot of things about 10 as well. I'm not trying to take a shot at him or nothing so please don't take it that way, I'm just saying we are hearing a whole lot of one thing and not a lot of the other. Now Madden 11 may be the simmest(???) football game ever, but right now it's in the hole( as far as how sim most people think it will be). If you're EA and you're trying to sell that your game is sim, then why even put yourself in that situation?