NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

[jeebs9]

I can totally see the guys in the 2k Offices just rolling on the laughing at this thread.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zastrin

I want a good explanation as to why Chris Paul is rated higher than Deron Williams? D-Will can do whatever CP3 can do, but is a lot stronger.

I think it has to with that CP3 gets more steals and probably has a higher defensive awareness.

[blanchard48moh]

Quote: Originally Posted by apollooff320

The Grizzles is my favorite team and I don't agree with you. Randolph defense isn't so great and he doesn't have ball handles. This is the reason why so many ppl are fighting about the ratings because they don't understand the attributes in the game, and on top of that they are comparing PG to PF. People need to compare PG to PG and SF to SF.

Randolph has two elite skills: post scoring--perhaps the best post scorer in the NBA right now--and rebounding. Every other aspect of his game is average to a little above average, except his athletic ability, which drops below.

To compare him to say a Tim Duncan. Duncan is perhaps more well rounded. But right now, Randolph is a far superior scorer. Those things even out and you get their overall ratings being somewhat similar. But Randolph will probably be a much bigger beast in the post than Duncan. As it should be.

[blanchard48moh]

Quote: Originally Posted by JWiLL02

@ DeRozan being rated below 70. Hopefully the season starts at a decent time so he'll get a proper ratings boost when he's averaging 23 ppg with improved handles, a 3 ball and one of the most consistent mid range games in the league (again).

Jwill: I'm sure if DeRozan comes back with all those things he will immediately be rated much higher. But right now, he's an athlete who is putting together some very basic scoring skills. His off the charts athlteticism makes it easier for him to do those things despite having a limited skill set. If NBA 2k is legit in saying the difference in speed will be more pronounced this season, DRoz should have no problem playing like his real life self.

[SouthBeach]

Quote: Originally Posted by blanchard48moh

Pace factors heavily into judging a team's offense. Go check the Heat's point per possession instead of how many times they scored more than 100 points.

Yes, that's understood.

But those were not the points I was talking about.

I wasn't even talking about the Heat as a whole. I was discussing ratings but he doesn't like Miami so that became the topic, haha.

[MikeBadge]

Quote: Originally Posted by SouthBeach

"Doesn't take away from the fact that LeBron and Wade are overrated and their offense was atrocious throughout the playoffs." This is what you said. LeBron and Wade were the discussion points, so bringing up the Heat as a whole is only proving to me further that your opinion of Miami is somewhat skewed. I brought Dirk into it because you said "...and their [Wade and LeBron] offense was atrocious throughout the playoffs". By the numbers, Wade shot the same percentage as Dirk while having to share the ball with LeBron and averaged 3 fewer points than Dirk. So, that's why Dirk's postseason numbers were being compared to Wade's. I mean, since you viewed LeBron and Wade's offense as atrocious. But with Wade being the best 2-guard in the league as of now, you still think he's overrated? Is that overrated in the sense of the game or in real life? (Maybe that's where this confusion is coming from)

A little bit of miscommunication (my fault). I wast trying to say just because I dislike the Miami Heat doesn't mean I am wrong to believe LeBron and Wade are overrated and that the Miami Heat team was atrocious offensively in the playoffs.

To the Wade point yes I believe Wade can still be the top shooting guard in the league and be somewhat overrated (both his game rating and the actual view of the player).

I believe he is overrated in the game for a few reasons: horrible three point shooter, only an above average mid range shooter, and not the great defender he is usually made out to be. I would assume 2K gave him ratings better than what he deserved in those categories and the 96 rating itself is too high when compared to the other legends.

As far as how he is viewed in "real life" I believe he is overrated for the reasons I stated earlier: he struggles against good defenses and has had inconsistent stretches throughout his career. The greatness his numbers portray (at least before the LeBron era) were greatly affected by the fact he had the ball in his hands all the time which would be fine if he were delivering results. However after '06 his teams had little success and players such as Michael Beasley and Dorrel Wright became much better players once they got out of Miami and away from Wade.

[blanchard48moh]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zastrin

I want a good explanation as to why Chris Paul is rated higher than Deron Williams? D-Will can do whatever CP3 can do, but is a lot stronger.

Chris Paul is just a better point guard. Which is no slight to Williams, because Williams is amazing. But Paul handles the pick and roll better, is quicker, and a better passer. But really, once you get to the level of Williams or Paul, you're really just nitpicking things.

[blanchard48moh]

Quote: Originally Posted by SouthBeach

Yes, that's understood. But those were not the points I was talking about. I wasn't even talking about the Heat as a whole. I was discussing ratings but he doesn't like Miami so that became the topic, haha.

my bad, I thought replying to your comment would also post his comment as well. The pace things sort of breaks down the other person's argument. Which is weak. You can bash the Heat all you want, but the fact remains they were in the NBA Finals in their first year together. How long did it take the Mavs?