Sound off: Did the NCAA Go Far Enough with Penn State?

[Ramminyou]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yung Goat 404

I agree with everything except the 4 year bowl ban. those kids are being punished also and i know they can transfer and all but what about the ones who just wanted to play at Penn State they whole life

Do you disagree with every bowl ban ever handed down? Because I promise that most of the kids who suffer from bowl bans never had anything to do with the sanctions imposed.

[seasprite]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't get why the NCAA don't have jurisdiction here. They placed santions on USC because Reggie Bush family worked out a deal with an agent. That had nothing to do with USC. However the NCAA essentially ruled that the university had the obligation to find out and act on it. In this case they knew something illegal were taking place and covered it up so the team could remain competive. If that doesn't fall under the NCAA jurisdiction I don't know what is?

They placed sanctions (albeit too harsh IMO) on USC because there was a specific bylaw that was broken and the AA cited this bylaw in that case. In this case, there isnt a bylaw that was broken, even though people want to point to the ethics in this case. Go read bylaw 10.1 which deals with ethical conduct, you will find that in every single sub there, the AA clearly states this bylaw with having to do with grades, benefits, and other bylaws stated in the manual. Again, the AA needs to state what bylaw Penn State broke here. Im not saying they shouldnt be punished, but I feel the AA went about it the wrong way and simply deciding that you are going to alter the bylaws after the fact is something that I think could be very dangerous with that group.

[Pokes]

So if PSU is being punished for the complicity of the football program retroactively in these events; then a serious look needs to be made at Notre Dame over the falling death of that student filming their practices, and at Colorado for those recruiting rape parties that occurred in the mid to late 90s.

[Wildcats302]

I'm ok with it, would have liked to seen it even worse if possible.

And Penn State fans really should not even comment on this...you just come off looking arrogant and petty IMO. I do applaud the few Penn State fans who own up to this and say we deserved harsh terms because well, your program does deserve these terms and some.

[br329]

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe Big Ten fines PSU $13 M and confirms they are not eligible for conference title game for four years

[Reed1417]

Loss off 10 scholarships over 4 years, no bowl appearances for 4 years and a fine of 60 million dollars. as much as i dont agree with the NCAA punishing the kids already there but something had to be done to send a message. And i'm ok with it. Plus PSU agreed to the sanctions so if they agreed then it does not really matter if the NCAA had the right to get involved or not. It's still sick to know that it was a big cover up i mean really? just....c'mon man. I dont understand how you can just sit by while kids are being raped right under your nose.

[Ramminyou]

Quote: Originally Posted by br329

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe Big Ten fines PSU $13 M and confirms they are not eligible for conference title game for four years

So the AD will be $73 million lighter next year. Then you've got the civil suits/settlements and the DOE investigation. That's a not-so-Happy Valley. I don't even think boosters will be able to cover all of these costs once it's all over.

[jmood88]

Quote: Originally Posted by NYJetsfan

I don't like it for 1 reason and 1 reason only, but for anything that actually effects Penn State, mind you. I don't like this because it will take away money from Inn Keepers, restaurant owners, gift shops, etc, etc. from around Happy Valley. You are punishing them for something that they had nothing to do with.

I'm really tired of seeing this "the punishment hurts innocent people" thing. That's not a valid argument for why the NCAA shouldn't act and they have no responsibility to think about the restaurants or hotels in happy valley when deciding on a punishment.