NBA 2K14 CREWS Mode - 3v3 Half-Court or 5v5 Full-Court on Blacktop Court Played to 21

[HowDareI]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarvinOida

Online though, think about online play!! R* is owned by Take Two... Maybe. Again, disk space is the issue right now, while NG is a very very easy clean slate, port the 9GB of CG, add everything we want, I'm sure that's no more than 16GB. Tap Tap Tapatalking away from my iPhone

I know man lol, but I'm just using the single player as an example.

And I know that cg has limitations, but seriously, how many people play offline blacktop? Take that out. How many people play Be a Legend? Take that out. Right there should be enough space for Crew Mode alone...oh and Season Mode, that's useless. And playoffs mode too...

[MarvinOida]

Quote: Originally Posted by HowDareI

I know man lol, but I'm just using the single player as an example. And I know that cg has limitations, but seriously, how many people play offline blacktop? Take that out. How many people play Be a Legend? Take that out. Right there should be enough space for Crew Mode alone...oh and Season Mode, that's useless. And playoffs mode too...

Is it sad that I actually play those modes a lot for a multitude of reasons? Playoffs and seasons for classic seasons rosters, Be a League for my own roster mods, and Blacktop also for my own roster mods.


Tap Tap Tapatalking away from my iPhone

[HowDareI]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarvinOida

Is it sad that I actually play those modes a lot for a multitude of reasons? Playoffs and seasons for classic seasons rosters, Be a League for my own roster mods, and Blacktop also for my own roster mods. Tap Tap Tapatalking away from my iPhone

Nah man lol I understand why people play them but I mean at a certain point if there's no space and they want to improve they'd have to sacrifice something...but that won't happen on next-gen unless they didn't add certain modes for some reason...I mean they said it's not a port so who knows.

[Ramboooo]

Made a list of Pros and Cons (imo) for 2K14 Crew vs 2K11's crew ...


PROS:

- No cheaters (assuming 2k share mods were cleaned up)

Dudes go on and on about "2K11 crew so awesommme" but fact is is the mode was literally broke. 8 footers, uncapped cheaters were so common, that you actually were surprised when it didn't happen.

- No CPU involvement

Still not getting this fascination with 2vs2 or 3vs3 while having half a team that are CPU? Ain't nothing realistic about having bots replace humans in a mode which was designed to replicate the true 5on5 human experience -- which is how everyone experiences basketball irl. So I'm not just making this up, there's precedence from the sport in real life.

- Servers

It would take literally 30min or so to find any game, let alone one that was cheater-free. The performance and lag of the game has improved dramatically from then to now. 5on5 teamup is pretty seamless, so it's safe to assume that crew will be able to handle 5on5 crew with ease. Lagouts happened occasionally / rare in 2k13 blacktop, but was easily remedied by deleting your game settings. No where near the epidemic of 2k11's haaariible servers.

- 3on3 crews

Those worried about not having enough players for Crew, should rest easy that this option is now available. You don't need 4 other players, just 2 more. The game provided OPTIONS for each case.

- 2K14's Gameplay

Early indications are that it will be more balanced, and the game played on superstar sim. Which is welcome news. How the game plays remains to be seen until launch, but it's safe to say that we have more options at our disposal and a better isomotion system. 2K13 controls > 2K11 control's by a long shot. Still this "pro" is tentative.


CONS:

No Arena

While this isn't a game changer for some, it is for many others. But the environment and audio is still presentation that doesn't affect gameplay. However...

No Refs, simulation-style fouls with FT's

This does affect gameplay. Info on this isn't entirely clear, but looks like you'll just get the ball at top of key. How it plays out remains to be seen. Will we just intentionally foul every time to stop fast breaks? I'm not a big of FT's in blacktop cuz it slows down the game, but wondering how this is going to implemented.

Play to 21 instead of 4 quarters

Now this is a gameplay element as well, and this kinda sucks. But this also remains to be seen how it will play out. I kinda liked the fact that games didn't last 1 hr for one game in 2k13 blacktop. You could crank out a few games in an hour, and still feel like there was a lot of substance to it. The thing that's concerning is going from 3 to 5 players, and yet the same end-score, so that will mean less touches and less stats per player. 4 quarters would be nice and more sim, but even increasing the end-score to 31 would be better. But again, who knows, we may come to find out that it's tougher to score with 5on5 instead of 3on3, so game may take longer and they'll be more stats like rebs, blocks, steals, just not as high ppg.




So at best, this a poor man's crew. At worst, it's blacktop 2.0. I think it's somewhere inbetween. So ... crewTop?

Either way, I'll still have fun with this mode. A BIG reason why is because of the integrity of the mode.... no cheaters, no CPU, leaderboards that really reflect who's good because of THEIR SKILLS not because they're good at hacking their player or calling a 1-3-1 CPU Zone. It ain't 2k11's crew, but I can't wait to play it cuz I know it'll be fun facing off vs all these different my players with my squad.

[aKiDNamedCoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ramboooo

Made a list of Pros and Cons (imo) for 2K14 Crew vs 2K11's crew ... PROS: - No cheaters (assuming 2k share mods were cleaned up) Dudes go on and on about "2K11 crew so awesommme" but fact is is the mode was literally broke. 8 footers, uncapped cheaters were so common, that you actually were surprised when it didn't happen. - No CPU involvement Still not getting this fascination with 2vs2 or 3vs3 while having half a team that are CPU? Ain't nothing realistic about having bots replace humans in a mode which was designed to replicate the true 5on5 human experience -- which is how everyone experiences basketball irl. So I'm not just making this up, there's precedence from the sport in real life. - Servers It would take literally 30min or so to find any game, let alone one that was cheater-free. The performance and lag of the game has improved dramatically from then to now. 5on5 teamup is pretty seamless, so it's safe to assume that crew will be able to handle 5on5 crew with ease. Lagouts happened occasionally / rare in 2k13 blacktop, but was easily remedied by deleting your game settings. No where near the epidemic of 2k11's haaariible servers. - 3on3 crews Those worried about not having enough players for Crew, should rest easy that this option is now available. You don't need 4 other players, just 2 more. The game provided OPTIONS for each case. - 2K14's Gameplay Early indications are that it will be more balanced, and the game played on superstar sim. Which is welcome news. How the game plays remains to be seen until launch, but it's safe to say that we have more options at our disposal and a better isomotion system. 2K13 controls > 2K11 control's by a long shot. Still this "pro" is tentative. CONS: No Arena While this isn't a game changer for some, it is for many others. But the environment and audio is still presentation that doesn't affect gameplay. However... No Refs, simulation-style fouls with FT's This does affect gameplay. Info on this isn't entirely clear, but looks like you'll just get the ball at top of key. How it plays out remains to be seen. Will we just intentionally foul every time to stop fast breaks? I'm not a big of FT's in blacktop cuz it slows down the game, but wondering how this is going to implemented. Play to 21 instead of 4 quarters Now this is a gameplay element as well, and this kinda sucks. But this also remains to be seen how it will play out. I kinda liked the fact that games didn't last 1 hr for one game in 2k13 blacktop. You could crank out a few games in an hour, and still feel like there was a lot of substance to it. The thing that's concerning is going from 3 to 5 players, and yet the same end-score, so that will mean less touches and less stats per player. 4 quarters would be nice and more sim, but even increasing the end-score to 31 would be better. But again, who knows, we may come to find out that it's tougher to score with 5on5 instead of 3on3, so game may take longer and they'll be more stats like rebs, blocks, steals, just not as high ppg. So at best, this a poor man's crew. At worst, it's blacktop 2.0. I think it's somewhere inbetween. So ... crewTop? Either way, I'll still have fun with this mode. A BIG reason why is because of the integrity of the mode.... no cheaters, no CPU, leaderboards that really reflect who's good because of THEIR SKILLS not because they're good at hacking their player or calling a 1-3-1 CPU Zone. It ain't 2k11's crew, but I can't wait to play it cuz I know it'll be fun facing off vs all these different my players with my squad.

Ok list but not everyone is going to have 5 people on at once or even 3 people we need cpu to fill spots like in 2k11 but my big problem is that the match ups are going to be unrealistic example my crew has a pg sg sf pf and center and we face a crew that has all guards no realism.

[Ramboooo]

Quote: Originally Posted by aKiDNamedCoop

Ok list but not everyone is going to have 5 people on at once or even 3 people we need cpu to fill spots like in 2k11 but my big problem is that the match ups are going to be unrealistic example my crew has a pg sg sf pf and center and we face a crew that has all guards no realism.

thanks. if someone can't manage to find 2 other people for 3on3, then safe to say they aren't ready to play crew. in your scenario, if a crew has all guards --- that's on THEM. you take the good with the bad. but the difference is it's US deciding it. So a dumb crew is gonna suck. There's no bailouts. If a team is DUMB enough to trout out a bunch of guards or a bunch of slow centers, they DESERVE to lose. That's the beauty of it. There's no babysitting, there's no CPU covering your tracks. It's just US playing the mode, it's just US deciding what team to build, what positional needs to fill, etc. So it's not just being the better players, it's being the better GM. That's why I think Association-heads should like this because it's like your playing GM but with real players instead of CPU.

[Melbournelad]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ramboooo

thanks. if someone can't manage to find 2 other people for 3on3, then safe to say they aren't ready to play crew. in your scenario, if a crew has all guards --- that's on THEM. you take the good with the bad. but the difference is it's US deciding it. So a dumb crew is gonna suck. There's no bailouts. If a team is DUMB enough to trout out a bunch of guards or a bunch of slow centers, they DESERVE to lose. That's the beauty of it. There's no babysitting, there's no CPU covering your tracks. It's just US playing the mode, it's just US deciding what team to build, what positional needs to fill, etc. So it's not just being the better players, it's being the better GM. That's why I think Association-heads should like this because it's like your playing GM but with real players instead of CPU.

Ahhhh, not really.

[Po0hd1n1]

so this game had one thing going for it and they even fumbled that? lol