Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

[gr18]

So,if the qb's are averaging 1 td pass per game and the rb td's are in line....

Are the sim scores very low or are there way too many field goals or too many defensive td's?

[OhMrHanky]

Quote: Originally Posted by gr18

So,if the qb's are averaging 1 td pass per game and the rb td's are in line.... Are the sim scores very low or are there way too many field goals or too many defensive td's?

Yeah, really, what were the FGs?? With all that yardage and no TDs, I'm assuming there are at least 10 kickers with 40+ FGs for the season! Lol. Kickers breaking all kinds of NFL scoring records in madden these days.

[gr18]

Quote: Originally Posted by OhMrHanky

Yeah, really, what were the FGs?? With all that yardage and no TDs, I'm assuming there are at least 10 kickers with 40+ FGs for the season! Lol. Kickers breaking all kinds of NFL scoring records in madden these days.

Yeah,from looking at the video the overall points aren't too terribly low and there doesn't seem to be an unusually high amount of defensive td's so there must be a lot of kickers with stats like 55 fieldgoal attempts and 45 made.

[BigMacAttack22]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

Passing numbers are obviously off. I was curious as to by how much. The video scrolls through the top 19 QBs by yards. I wrote down their yards numbers, TD numbers, and INT numbers, and took the average. I then did the same for the 2013 NFL season. For the hell of it, I also looked at the 2004 NFL season, i.e. ten years ago. 2013 NFL avg (top 19 by yards): 4065 yards, 27 TDs, 15 INTs 2004 NFL avg (top 19 by yards): 3694 yards, 25 TDs, 14 INTs this Madden sim (top 19 by yards): 3118 yards, 17 TDs, 13 INTs So it's just low on everything it looks like, but yards and TDs are woefully off. There's 21% fewer yards, 35% fewer passing TDs, and 10% fewer INTs among league leaders compared to the average league leader in 2013, and 13% fewer yards, 31% fewer TDs, and 9% fewer INTs than 2004. I went ahead and looked at rushing as well (this video scrolls through the top 12 RBs by yards): 2013 NFL avg (top 12 RBs by yards): 275 carries, 1236 yards, 9 TDs 2004 NFL avg (top 12 RBs by yards): 322 carries, 1412 yards, 10 TDs this Madden sim (top 12 RBs by yards): 323 carries, 1335 yards, 8 TDs Generally speaking, the rushing stats from this sim look in-line with the NFL, if the game was being played a decade ago. The CPU is running the ball with the top-rated backs about 20% more than real teams did in 2013. Also, there's a 400-carry back in this simulation; the NFL hasn't seen a RB with 400 carries since Larry Johnson in 2006, if I recall correctly. While obviously we need more than one season's sim worth of data to draw any sort of conclusion, one might begin to assert that Madden's game simulation algorithm has not been updated to account for the de-emphasis on the running game and increase in proficiency of modern NFL passing offenses. I would assume that this can be tuned to resemble the modern NFL to an extent. However, I do wonder by how much.

This is a lot of math and research for something that might turn out to be insignificant, so thank you for calculating. Any chance you might try this using multiple simulations when the game comes out? I would be very interested in reading what you find.

Quick edit: I love how the community is analyzing everything. Much more constructive than i expected. I wonder if EA even has a small team of developers that look into this sort of thing, or if they've ever instructed their QA people to test this kind of thing specifically.

[JayD]

Didn't they have to patch the rushing simulated stats a couple of years back? If so let's hope they patch the passing stats this year.

[usaaaaaa]

Quote: Originally Posted by JaymeeAwesome

Can we stop using the word "broken"? It's overused when talking about video games. Sim stats aren't broken, they are inaccurate. Broken is where you get to a point in the game and can't progress. If the game crashed during every off season...that's broken.

Uh, broken means it doesn't work correctly. These simulated stats aren't simulating the NFL correctly, which means simming doesn't work correctly, which means it's essentially broken.

It's like getting in a car and having the fuel gauge not work. "It's not broken, it's just inaccurate!" Yep, makes sense man.

[thesillyputty1]

Quote: Originally Posted by bc21045

My favorite part is Darren Sproles leading the league with 13 rushing TDs despite only having 11 in the last 8 years and only carrying the ball 137 times in that sim season... awesome.

Well, LeSean McCoy was not on any list so you have to assume he got hurt and Sproles was the featured back in Philly.

[Nza]

Quote: Originally Posted by Old's Cool

So the real life NFL passing numbers are the highest they've been in league history these last few years.....and the Madden sim passing numbers are the lowest they've ever been. Good job EA.

Hey, "if it's in the game" doesn't necessarily mean "if it's in the game TODAY" :P