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Madden NFL 12 - Dynamic Player Performance to Play a Role During Games (IGN)

02:38 PM - June 2, 2011 by phillysouljah

Looks like the dynamic player performance mechanic will play a role DURING games and will rub off on other players. The traits sound interesting, as well. Check out the full Madden NFL 12 Dynamic Player Performance article, right here.

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	"Previously, I revealed how Madden NFL 12's Franchise mode handles fluctuations of a player's performance over the course of a season. Well, that stuff applies to every play of every game. Every player is rated on their confidence and consistency, which helps determine how much they are impacted by good and bad play. That's right � players don't just affect themselves, but can influence an entire team. When a QB has it going, it can energize an entire offense. A great leader, for instance, can boost not only his own play, but those around him. And influential players who lose confidence easily can lower the play of the entire team. It works both ways."

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# 21 justblaze09 @ 06/02/11 03:57 PM

Nothing really new that we didn't already know from when IGN dropped the Franchise/Superstar news. Nice to know though that it can change play by play (which is how the NFL is).

Although I would love to have it in NCAA, I don't see a plausible way you can have it accurate (especially for all the true freshmen you have coming in that you have nothing to judge them on).

# 22 Mr_Riddick @ 06/02/11 04:00 PM

I finally went back to the first page, read the original article on the IGN site.... These additions are much more in depth than I could have imagined. This could be HUGE, giving madden the replayability I've always wanted.(if that's even a word) But I know most understand what I mean. I was stoked when seeing the franchise additions, and now this. For the first time Madden will be a release day purchase for me..

# 23 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	Well from these screenshots: We know that Matt Ryan can change to trigger happy under pressure and start to force passes. I don't agree with that though. They don't call him Matty Ice for nothing. Maybe he's on a cold streak. Now I'm wondering if we'll be able to edit these.

What's in a name lol?

In college, he was an interception machine at times. He did a good impersonation of those BC days in the playoffs a couple, months ago too lol.

I love Matt Ryan, but he is definitely not above rattling, regardless of what his nickname is.

# 24 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	Yeah, I see what you're saying. I just feel that this is way more than "the next evolutionary step". If we were going by evolutionary steps, this would be more like a jump from single cell organisms to primates, IMO. I understand what you're saying though. We both see the same thing. We're just seeing it a lil differently.

Tomato, tomato... Wait, that doesn't work on the interwebs does it lol? You know what I'm saying though.

We agree that it sounds pretty cool. That's what really matters.

# 25 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by justblaze09


	Nothing really new that we didn't already know from when IGN dropped the Franchise/Superstar news. Nice to know though that it can change play by play (which is how the NFL is). Although I would love to have it in NCAA, I don't see a plausible way you can have it accurate (especially for all the true freshmen you have coming in that you have nothing to judge them on).

High School if they are that sick wit it lol.

# 26 Gotmadskillzson @ 06/02/11 04:11 PM

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	Although I would love to have it in NCAA, I don't see a plausible way you can have it accurate (especially for all the true freshmen you have coming in that you have nothing to judge them on).

The ratings in NCAA football games aren't accurate anyway. Just allow fully editable ratings and traits, it would work just fine.

# 27 justblaze09 @ 06/02/11 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Only1LT


	High School if they are that sick wit it lol.

I know it's probably a joke, but that's a lot of high school games someone would have to watch, and even less against actual competition on the same level as them (which most times would be 1-2 games, which wouldn't be enough).

# 28 SageInfinite @ 06/02/11 04:16 PM

If done right, this could be truly awesome.

# 29 splff3000 @ 06/02/11 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by justblaze09


	Nothing really new that we didn't already know from when IGN dropped the Franchise/Superstar news. Nice to know though that it can change play by play (which is how the NFL is). Although I would love to have it in NCAA, I don't see a plausible way you can have it accurate (especially for all the true freshmen you have coming in that you have nothing to judge them on).

Blaze, blaze, blaze.... always trying to rain on the parade. Don't worry, it'll be in NCAA next year lol.

# 30 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by justblaze09


	I know it's probably a joke, but that's a lot of high school games someone would have to watch, and even less against actual competition on the same level as them (which most times would be 1-2 games, which wouldn't be enough).

It was a joke, but there is HS scouting though. It is readily available on the interwebs. It wouldn't be too hard to base approximations off of that if they were so inclined. They obviously do something like that now. How else do the Frosh have ratings at all?

Accuracy? That's another debate lol.

# 31 splff3000 @ 06/02/11 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Only1LT


	It was a joke, but there is HS scouting though. It is readily available on the interwebs. It wouldn't be too hard to base approximations off of that if they were so inclined. They obviously do something like that now. How else do the Frosh have ratings at all? Accuracy? That's another debate lol.

Anyway, what's the difference from them having ratings for all these players? It's the same concept, right? They haven't seen the players play, but they have ratings for them...so why not traits? And why are we talking about NCAA? Last time I checked, this is the Madden forum. Let's focus on madden. It's obvious the EA devs have done that this year, right Blaze?

# 32 justblaze09 @ 06/02/11 04:40 PM

There's a difference between knowing a person's physicals gifts and mental makeup. You know if someone has the physical tools thanks to the sites out here, but you really don't know how they have it together in their head until they step on that college field.

Anyway, back to Madden. This will be great and keep things fresh. Now people playing with Philly won't know which Michael Vick they will get, and it can bite them in the ***.

# 33 LorenzoDC @ 06/02/11 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Only1LT


	Lol. Says the Cowboys fan

Yeah, like the pressure of beating the Cowboys in the run up to SB XLII.

In fairness, though, Eli doesn't have anything near Romo's playoff resume.

But back on topic, this stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out.

# 34 phillysouljah @ 06/02/11 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by justblaze09


	Anyway, back to Madden. This will be great and keep things fresh. Now people playing with Philly won't know which Michael Vick they will get, and it can bite them in the *.

You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year.

Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year:

284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit
291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville
218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis
333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington
258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants
333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago
302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston
270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas
242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants
263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota
292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs

Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field.

What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season!

In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

# 35 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LorenzoDC


	Yeah, like the pressure of beating the Cowboys in the run up to SB XLII. In fairness, though, Eli doesn't have anything near Romo's playoff resume. But back on topic, this stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out.

I actually wasn't taking a shot at Romo. That's just too easy lol. I was making light of how it is typical of a Cowboy fan to rush to bash Eli. Could have been an Eagle or Washington fan. Would have made the same comment and it would have worked just the same.

# 36 RGiles36 @ 06/02/11 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LorenzoDC


	Yeah, like the pressure of beating the Cowboys in the run up to SB XLII. In fairness, though, Eli doesn't have anything near Romo's playoff resume. But back on topic, this stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out.

You win LOL.

Back on topic -- I also wonder how these traits work against ratings. If a WR has catch rating of 90+, how does the 'drop passes' trait work along with it?

# 37 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year. Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year: 284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit 291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville 218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis 333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington 258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants 333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago 302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston 270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas 242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants 263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota 292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field. What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season! In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

Just looking at TD to Int numbers, no he didn't really have a bad game, but there were many games down the stretch, where he failed to put a stamp on the game and was just there.

If it weren't for the dumbest Defense in the history of Football, you wouldn't have known he was there in either Giants game.

Even with all of Philly's weapons, it's pretty easy to keep Vick under wraps. You just need a defense that understands that you can never be a hero against Vick, only a victim on a highlight reel. Keep outside contain at all times, regardless of whether you think you can get to him on a particular play, and he will self destruct like always if forced to be a pocket passer for an entire game.

If you can't guess, I am not a believer in Vick's ability to beat a team passing consistently lol.

# 38 justblaze09 @ 06/02/11 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year.

It's more of a reference to what's being told in the news that is coming out. This is the 2nd time IGN has brought up Vick when talking about DPP, and the first time it talked about how he can take a big swing in ratings, while this time it brought up how he will quickly tuck it and run. We won't truly know until someone get their hands on the game, but it sounds like Vick will be kinda erratic.

# 39 LorenzoDC @ 06/02/11 05:03 PM

I think the newest piece here from what we were told before was that player hot streaks within a game affect the play of their teammates, and not just their own performances.

That's way cool.

And to take some heat as a Giants fan, the eight minute collapse against the Eagles in week 15 last year, and the next week's performance against SB winning Green Bay, all had a psychological snowball effect element to them.

That's a prime case for what DPP is trying to bring into the game, and I think that rocks.

Packers and Eagles fans, you're welcome! (Well, not to the wins, but to my painful admission).

# 40 roadman @ 06/02/11 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year. Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year: 284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit 291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville 218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis 333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington 258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants 333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago 302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston 270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas 242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants 263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota 292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field. What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season! In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

Eh, good with Int's at the back end of the season? Nah, I'll take Rodgers 9 td's 2 int's in the playoffs and SB vs Vicks 1 and 1 at the end of the day. That's what is good to stellar.

Back on topic, I think I will love this feature a lot.

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