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Next-Gen Madden NFL 25 Twitter Q&A w/ Art Director Jean Adams & Producer Seann Graddy

03:16 PM - October 1, 2013 by Kevin26385

EA SPORTS recently had a Twitter Q&A session with with Art Director Jean Adams and Producer Seann Graddy, as they answered questions about next-gen graphics and presentation.

Q&A:
The Buffalo Bills collars have been fixed.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...20630732886016

The Washington Redskins 2013 home and away sleeve stripes have been fixed.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...20834349588480

100's of new face scans have been added to the game.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...21711927996416

Added new Riddell 360 helmet, popular facemasks + more.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...22618577129473

Yes, all jerseys will be up-to-date.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...23150121295872

Return to '13 camera + zoom.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...23695309504512

Ignite allows realistic lighting & complex materials.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...24235393236992

Fisher & Reid's mustaches look exquisite.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...24964543655937

Issue of players celebrating facing the wrong way and disappearing into the crowd is fixed.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...25228692520961

Coaches have headsets now.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...25977350623232

Field degradation is more dynamic, including snow.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...26373200633857

Progressive shadowing is in and will be more dynamic to show the passage of time.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...27093727535105

Infinity is just one tool inside the Ignite suite.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...27765432737792

Snow will cover the field in next-gen.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...28136720936960

Clete Blakeman is new Head Ref for #Madden25.
https://twitter.com/EAMaddenNFL/stat...28724544249856

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# 41 Cowboy008 @ 10/02/13 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogslax41


	They cant do anything about the tattoo issues. The NFL doesn't want them in.

Did the NFL give them a reason as to why they don't want tattoos in the game?

# 42 SageInfinite @ 10/02/13 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy008


	Did the NFL give them a reason as to why they don't want tattoos in the game?

Something about it not being the image they wanted represented from the players or something like that. IDK, pretty dumb if you ask me.

# 43 Dogslax41 @ 10/02/13 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy008


	Did the NFL give them a reason as to why they don't want tattoos in the game?

Image. The NFL wants to distance itself from anything that the public associates with some of the less desirable behavior patterns of the players in the league and right or wrong tattoos have a direct association to that type of behavior for the narrow minded majority.

# 44 reverend_heat @ 10/02/13 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tfer717


	and to be honest.. even the awesome info is meh. how many years have they said time progression would happen? every 4:15 game I start still ends in daytime. They've never gotten that right

Exactly, right there, they made a point to say shadow progression in the twitter response. That means the shadows will move across the field quarter to quarter, but the sky will look exactly the same at the end as it did at kickoff. Remember ncaa 2007 I think it was when the lighting was updated after every single play? That was one of the coolest things I have ever seen in a football video game, by the third quarter the lights would come on as the sun set, and the sky would turn a goldish/orange as dusk set in, them slowly play by play, it would turn into a dark night sky. and it was never in another game from EA again.

# 45 Cowboy008 @ 10/02/13 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	Something about it not being the image they wanted represented from the players or something like that. IDK, pretty dumb if you ask me.

I agree it is pretty dumb that they don't allow tattoos.

# 46 Dogslax41 @ 10/02/13 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xnate128x


	Where did you hear this from exactly?

I've seen it in communication from EA when they have been asked this question. In addition there is also budding potential copyright issues and you can be sure EA will not want to go anywhere near that after they just shelled out $40m.

# 47 CubFan23 @ 10/02/13 04:39 PM

Whew! Glad they got Fisher & Reid's mustaches to look exquisite , that would have been a game breaker for me.

# 48 michapop9 @ 10/02/13 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xnate128x


	Unfortunately, I highly doubt it.... It doesn't seem like they're going to have tattoos in the game either. This crap is beyond disappointing. We have to remember that this is EA Tiburon. They're very very lazy....

either way I agree with your main point, but I dont neccesarily think laziness is completely correct, no doubt there are hard workers there, but just because youre a hard worker does not mean that the end product is automatically going to be outstanding, as we can obviously see, the other next gen games all look outstanding visually, so EA cannot seperate themselves on that. nba 2k14 already more accurate player representation (visually) from what weve seen so far. The problem I have is ea's excuse would be "well there are so many more parts to a football player so its more difficult."

Its hard for me not to think that alot of the management and certain other people employed by EA think people have a vendetta against EA sports for no other reason than just to pick on the big guy and that we will whine and complain no matter what they put out. I dont care about the exclusive license, I dont care what company it is, after 20 years and modern technology and the sport right in front of your face, the animations especially should look like real life, (theyre far from it still being very generic) and when it doesnt people are obviously going to start placing blame on the reasons why it doesnt.

# 49 The_Balm @ 10/02/13 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogslax41


	I've seen it in communication from EA when they have been asked this question. In addition there is also budding potential copyright issues and you can be sure EA will not want to go anywhere near that after they just shelled out $40m.

The copyright issues can be solved by making a bunch of generic tattoos.

# 50 Dogslax41 @ 10/02/13 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by michapop9


	Its hard for me not to think that alot of the management and certain other people employed by EA think people have a vendetta against EA sports for no other reason than just to pick on the big guy and that we will whine and complain no matter what they put out. I dont care about the exclusive license, I dont care what company it is, after 20 years and modern technology and the sport right in front of your face, the animations especially should look like real life, (theyre far from it still being very generic) and when it doesnt people are obviously going to start placing blame on the reasons why it doesnt.

They can't reasonably think this. For no other reason than FIFA. People love their offering because they have taken the time to move their game forward with innovation. First it was the physics engine. That was a disaster the first year but EA stuck with it despite fans groans and delivered an engine that fans love because its realistic. Then they listened to fans that disliked the arcade ping pong nature of FIFA 13 and added a level of realism I honestly didnt think EA was capable of. The reason behind all this, the little guy Konami kept putting out a gameplay first focused game and despite the fancy licenses Konami's game was constantly a thorn in EA's side so they worked to make their game better.

The issue with Madden is that they will try something and then people complain about it not being fully executed and instead of taking their lumps and working on it for the next year they usually end up cutting it and starting over with something else. It really seems like when left to their own evaluations they can not for the life of them determine what fans want. Look no further than the 40% drop in year over sales that Madden experienced. And that is with no other NFL game out there.

# 51 roadman @ 10/02/13 05:03 PM

The word from past EA developers is the NFL prohibits tatoos.

Don't forget who is in charge of the NFL, Roger Nofundell.

# 52 PantherBeast_OS @ 10/02/13 06:04 PM

I'm with most people right now. I could care less if the uniforms are a little off or the graphics looks great. All I care is how good the game play looks at the end of the day. I thank the EA for the answers to those questions. I'm not going to cry about it. More info is coming soon enough and hopefully in a matter of weeks we will get some real time game play footage that will help us get a feel of what next gen game play is going to look like.

# 53 EAGLESFAN10 @ 10/02/13 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ10


	Also, most of your elite tatted up players are black. their tattoos would be very hard to see just as they are on the tv in real life. I dont even think I can think of 5 white, latino, hawaiian etc players that have very prominent visible tattoos. so even if the NFL did allow it there wouldnt be much need to work on something you could barely if at all see.

REALLY? so just because their black a person want be able to see tattoos .... I'm black by the way

anyway I think its funny when people say that they don't care about Presentation or Graphics .... Like really .... No need to lie

Basically they will play backyard football with Simulation Elements smh

# 54 EAGLESFAN10 @ 10/02/13 06:54 PM

Just because somebody is Black doesn't mean they are Night Time Africa Dark lmao

# 55 SageInfinite @ 10/02/13 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ10


	Thats exactly what Im saying, people won't see it, unless you use a lot of white ink on your tats to cause a stark contrast. Im a titans fan, watch cj no k every sunday. Hes covered in tats, but watching him on tv unless they have a close up of him on the sideline you cant tell hes tatted up at all. so why waste the time on something people wont see unless there is a camera close up on them?

No offense my dude, but this is one of the mentalities that Tiburon has that has this game so far behind. Why waste time on something we don't think people will notice or care about? Because it makes the game authentic. It's realistic. It's in the game. It's the little things that take sports games over the top.

And honestly if the presentation was done properly, we would see faces and tats on the players, because the close-ups and zooms we see on television during a game would be in the game. Just my perspective.

# 56 SageInfinite @ 10/02/13 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ10


	with tats I dont think that is true, it would be nice, but falls very low on the list of things they need to with presentation. the accessories need to be done first because every player has accessories, not every player has visible tats. either way the NFL doesnt allow the tats in the game so its not something to worry with.

I agree. I'm not a huge advocate for tatts, but I am an advocated for getting details into the game.

# 57 infemous @ 10/02/13 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xnate128x


	The point is that 2K is able to showcase their basketball players with tattoos without any issues in my opinion. I mean I can see the tattoos just fine on every single player that has them. It's silly how the NFL doesn't want to to display such artwork on their players in madden. I know for a fact we would be able to see the tattoos fine on all players. The proof is in the pudding with all 2k basketball players. Okay we can't have tattoos on any NFL players in madden, but to the individuals who stated that you wouldn't be able to hardly see the tattoos on the players are wrong. The camera pans by the players and zooms in constantly after every play. So the logic the people are using who believe you would hardly be able to see anything, are very wrong.

To be honest, I am not fussed about the absence of tats because it's another fine detail that EA would fail to implement correctly if they were allowed to by the NFL.

I mean, just look at the absence of equipment. It's insane.

The absence of moving fat on players is a more pressing issue, especially because that was present on PS2 Madden03.

# 58 EAGLESFAN10 @ 10/02/13 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ10


	Thats exactly what Im saying, people won't see it, unless you use a lot of white ink on your tats to cause a stark contrast. Im a titans fan, watch cj no k every sunday. Hes covered in tats, but watching him on tv unless they have a close up of him on the sideline you cant tell hes tatted up at all. so why waste the time on something people wont see unless there is a camera close up on them? apples and oranges, different game, different amount of clothing. nfl has jersey sleeves, armbands, arm sleeves, gloves etc. but most importantly the nba game camera is zoomed in much more than the nfl game so its easier to see things like that.

Uh because win't be wasting anytime adding tattoos because their is a close up of the player after every damn play

plus not having tattoos makes it seem like only half of the player is in the game and tattoos make up a player they have stories behind them

# 59 EAGLESFAN10 @ 10/02/13 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ10


	If thats the case you trying to turn a simple statement into a race thing would be a real quick way for the same to happen to you. You're trying to start something that isnt there on an internet message board.

He is just letting you know from other peoples experiences that maybe you could have worded it differently thats all he was saying

# 60 EAGLESFAN10 @ 10/02/13 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ10


	well what it looks like to you and what it actually is is two different things. take baseball for example, people complain cause there arent tats in the show, theres more white players in baseball than football, their tattoos usually only peek out from under their sleeves, so its the same thing, no reason to waste time on something that you barely see even if the mlb allowed tats, which they dont.

At the end of the day its all about the details man

Nobody is attacking you don't want you to feel like you are

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