should Brock Sheriff be born again ?

Darkiller · 10-10-2003, 08:32 AM

One of the legendary Quarterbacks in FOF history, Brock Sheriff is retired and happy where he is in Hall-of-Fame land...HOWEVER, with the upcoming release of Total Pro Football and its customization : I wonder if that would be a good idea to "recreate" Brock Sheriff in this game...

(my early call is NO, but I'd like your feedback)

cthomer5000 · 10-10-2003, 08:55 AM

Have you ordered a Sheriff jersey from NFL.com yet?

Bee · 10-10-2003, 08:56 AM

Where's the trout option?

Darkiller · 10-10-2003, 08:57 AM

I should :-)

by the way, take a look at his REAL 49er jersey:

http://membres.lycos.fr/frontofficefoot/career_real49ersfoot_sheriff.htm

FBPro · 10-10-2003, 10:25 AM

You've encouraged me to start back up my FOF4 playing again.

HornedFrog Purple · 10-10-2003, 11:27 AM

No way. You will start comparing them. Leave the legend alone.

mckerney · 10-10-2003, 11:59 AM

No. At least not unless he goes up against Dean Houston.

MrBug708 · 10-10-2003, 12:22 PM

Whose Brock Sherriff

cuervo72 · 10-10-2003, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBug708
Whose Brock Sherriff

Darkiller's Brock Sheriff. I don't know of another.

Darkiller · 10-11-2003, 04:10 AM

bump

thanks for the votes guys.
I need more answers from you !

RPI-Fan · 10-11-2003, 04:27 AM

If 18-6 isn't a big enough margin for you, I'm guessing you're desperately looking for a reason to bring him back...

In which case, by all means, do so.

Swaggs · 10-11-2003, 09:51 AM

Brock Sheriff Jr is the way to go.

Senator · 10-11-2003, 10:13 AM

Don't mess with a legend. Let him tell his stories in the comfort of time.

Karim · 10-11-2003, 03:06 PM

No way. Let some other player try and replace the legend...

korme · 10-11-2003, 03:14 PM

Let the legend live on, don't recreate and give him a chance of failure.

Vince · 10-11-2003, 03:32 PM

Ok, we all know about Brock Sheriff and Dean Houston...anyone else have any 'legendary' players from their FOF careers that stand out in your memory? I think it might be cool if we could somehow field a team of FOF 'legends' and let them romp a league by using the player editor...

Personally, I had one Moe Ellard, from my first ever San Jose State dynasty in TCY. He wasn't supposed to be all that good (mid 60s-low 70s), but he made 2nd Team All American at Safety as a freshman, and then was a 1st team All-American the rest of his career at SJSU. I always wish I had saved the export the year he graduated...I wanted to see if he became anything in FOF. However I didn't have FOF at the time, so it seemed a worthless gesture.

Darkiller · 10-11-2003, 06:23 PM

The "jury" has posted 31 votes for NO out of a panel of 40.
This shows very clearly that Brock Sheriff is a FOF legend who must remain attached to FOF, and FOF only.

Thank you for your time on this. I appreciated your opinions.

Darkiller · 10-11-2003, 06:24 PM

Brock appreciates as well and is glad to stay retired in FOF-land :-)

MIJB#19 · 10-13-2003, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vince
Ok, we all know about Brock Sheriff and Dean Houston...anyone else have any 'legendary' players from their FOF careers that stand out in your memory? I think it might be cool if we could somehow field a team of FOF 'legends' and let them romp a league by using the player editor...

There ones was this linebacker who kept unretiring and racking up all league 1st team selections with his tackle totals.

And then there was that 'Paddy' Schwimmer guy, wasn't he that legendary Village Challenge running back?

Pumpy Tudors · 10-13-2003, 06:15 PM

It's been a long time since I played any FOF games, but just looking at Brock Sheriff's yearly stats, most of the seasons aren't really THAT great.

Then again, I don't remember how quarterbacks tended to perform in FOF2, so maybe by comparison, that is something really special.

Am I out of my tree here?

illinifan999 · 10-13-2003, 06:38 PM

Just curios, how did you get the jersey with Brock's name on it? Photoshop?

Bonegavel · 10-13-2003, 06:40 PM

Not to be too goofy, but I think if you make him live on in TPF, you will cheapen his legacy and he will never live up to your expectations. And, if you keep using him in different games, will you ever remember why he stuck out in the first place?

panerd · 10-13-2003, 07:04 PM

I don't know anything about Sheriff, but I just voted YES to try and create some controversy. That page was pretty cool though. This may be a real dumb question, but seeing as I have never played long enough in FOF to get any players in the hall of fame does the e-mail come with the name circled or is that photoshop also?

WussGawd · 10-14-2003, 12:24 AM

Brock Sheriff has a trout in his rectum.

Darkiller · 10-14-2003, 05:41 AM

Panerd : I circled his name myself :-)
Illifan : yep, I used Photoshop. very easy to do.

Pumpy Tudors :
Well I agree that his All-time career rating is very good, not great (would rank #2 alll time in the NFL actually, so that's pretty good over 16 years) and that his completion % is under what 49er QBs use to have although I use a little variation of the west coast offense with my offenses.

However, one can't deny the multiple MVPs, the 10 SuperBowls, the 11 all-League awards (including 9 1st-team) etc etc..

I'll tell you something : when Brock Sheriff was quarterbacking my team, I had no fear. I KNEW we would win, no matter what. Too bad 4th quarter comebacks are not taken into account in FOF2 because he had quite a few (ala Peyton Manning with 20+ points with under 5 minutes to go...)

He was truely AMAZING.

sterlingice · 10-14-2003, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vince
Ok, we all know about Brock Sheriff and Dean Houston...anyone else have any 'legendary' players from their FOF careers that stand out in your memory? I think it might be cool if we could somehow field a team of FOF 'legends' and let them romp a league by using the player editor...

Don't forget Chuck U.

SI

illinifan999 · 10-14-2003, 05:51 PM

How did you get the same kind of font for the name on the jersey? I'm still a photoshop noob, and am stuck with using normal fonts.

revrew · 10-14-2003, 06:49 PM

Okay, break it down like this:

Brock Sheriff's playing days are over. The endorsements still trickle in, but does he really need the money? At what point do you start to feel like a George Foreman media-whore? He's already in the HOF, and his records can't be added to, only beaten. He's sowed his oats, had his career, and gotten the glory. What's left? Eventually, sooner or later, the dude's gonna die. And if that's the next hurdle to face, a person has to ask, "Should I be born again? Or just let this body die without a well-based hope for the afterlife?" Given the ol' Pascal's wager, I'd suggest Brock Sheriff go ahead and be born again. Of course, you had to know revrew would arrive at that opinion.

Phoenix · 10-14-2003, 06:53 PM

Go with Brock Sheriff, Jr.

Kodos · 10-14-2003, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sterlingice
Don't forget Chuck U.

SI

vulcan · 10-14-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
Go with Brock Sheriff, Jr.

...or Ramesy Sheriff

....Cory Sheriff

...

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-13-2005, 10:41 PM

How did Sherriff's replacement do over the course of his career? Any updates on this?

Kodos · 09-14-2005, 01:32 PM

And is Brock trying to get off of the drugs?

Darkiller · 09-16-2005, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

How did Sherriff's replacement do over the course of his career? Any updates on this?

Here is a little update :
After Brock's retirement the team went into something like 5 years where we weren't settled at the QB position and had a couple of losing seasons.
Then we drafted a QB in the first round but he never could gain an opportunity to start because he ended up being stuck behind a veteran journeyman who resurected his career in San Francisco.
That guy was Kennedy Farr and he had been in the league for 11 or 12 years went we signed him as an (unwanted) UFA. He was brought in to play one or two years before letting the 1st round pick take the reins but ultimately, Kennedy Farr got the job done. Big time.
He wasn't flashy, it wasn't pretty, but he managed to lead the 49ers to 5 straight NFC West Titles and 3 SuperBowls in a row. When he was done, somehow, I had lost my trust in the former 1st round pick and dealt him to Green Bay. In the meantime I had used the #8 overall pick the year before on yet another QB : Eric Misner, out of Pittsburgh University.
Misner went on to have a Hall of Fame career of his own, winning multiple SuperBowls, and MVP awards.

We "Almost" pulled a Montana-Young dynastie with Hall of Fame QB. "Almost" because there was a 10-year gap between Brock Sheriff's playing days and Eric Misner's.

View Poll Results: Should Brock Sheriff be born again ?
YES : he's the man and deserves to play !	14	21.21%
NO : he's a FOF character, belongs to FOF and must remain retired in the HOF	52	78.79%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

10-10-2003, 08:57 AM	#4
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	I should :-) by the way, take a look at his REAL 49er jersey: http://membres.lycos.fr/frontofficefoot/career_real49ersfoot_sheriff.htm __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

10-10-2003, 10:25 AM	#5
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	You've encouraged me to start back up my FOF4 playing again. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

10-11-2003, 04:10 AM	#10
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	bump thanks for the votes guys. I need more answers from you ! __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

10-11-2003, 04:27 AM	#11
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	If 18-6 isn't a big enough margin for you, I'm guessing you're desperately looking for a reason to bring him back... In which case, by all means, do so. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

10-10-2003, 08:56 AM	#3
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Where's the trout option?

10-10-2003, 11:27 AM	#6
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	No way. You will start comparing them. Leave the legend alone.

10-10-2003, 11:59 AM	#7
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	No. At least not unless he goes up against Dean Houston.

10-10-2003, 12:22 PM	#8
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Whose Brock Sherriff

10-11-2003, 09:51 AM	#12
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Brock Sheriff Jr is the way to go. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-11-2003, 10:13 AM	#13
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Don't mess with a legend. Let him tell his stories in the comfort of time. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

10-11-2003, 03:06 PM	#14
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	No way. Let some other player try and replace the legend...

10-11-2003, 03:14 PM	#15
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Let the legend live on, don't recreate and give him a chance of failure.

10-11-2003, 03:32 PM	#16
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Ok, we all know about Brock Sheriff and Dean Houston...anyone else have any 'legendary' players from their FOF careers that stand out in your memory? I think it might be cool if we could somehow field a team of FOF 'legends' and let them romp a league by using the player editor... Personally, I had one Moe Ellard, from my first ever San Jose State dynasty in TCY. He wasn't supposed to be all that good (mid 60s-low 70s), but he made 2nd Team All American at Safety as a freshman, and then was a 1st team All-American the rest of his career at SJSU. I always wish I had saved the export the year he graduated...I wanted to see if he became anything in FOF. However I didn't have FOF at the time, so it seemed a worthless gesture. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

10-11-2003, 06:23 PM	#17
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	The "jury" has posted 31 votes for NO out of a panel of 40. This shows very clearly that Brock Sheriff is a FOF legend who must remain attached to FOF, and FOF only. Thank you for your time on this. I appreciated your opinions. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

10-11-2003, 06:24 PM	#18
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Brock appreciates as well and is glad to stay retired in FOF-land :-) __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

10-13-2003, 06:15 PM	#20
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	It's been a long time since I played any FOF games, but just looking at Brock Sheriff's yearly stats, most of the seasons aren't really THAT great. Then again, I don't remember how quarterbacks tended to perform in FOF2, so maybe by comparison, that is something really special. Am I out of my tree here? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-13-2003, 06:38 PM	#21
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Just curios, how did you get the jersey with Brock's name on it? Photoshop? __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-13-2003, 06:40 PM	#22
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Not to be too goofy, but I think if you make him live on in TPF, you will cheapen his legacy and he will never live up to your expectations. And, if you keep using him in different games, will you ever remember why he stuck out in the first place? __________________

10-13-2003, 07:04 PM	#23
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	I don't know anything about Sheriff, but I just voted YES to try and create some controversy. That page was pretty cool though. This may be a real dumb question, but seeing as I have never played long enough in FOF to get any players in the hall of fame does the e-mail come with the name circled or is that photoshop also?

10-14-2003, 12:24 AM	#24
WussGawd College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy	Brock Sheriff has a trout in his rectum. __________________ "I guess I'll fade into Bolivian." -Mike Tyson, after being knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Proud Dumba Elect of the "Biggest Dumba of FOFC Award" Author of the 2004 Golden Scribe Gold Trophy for Best Basketball Dynasty, It Rhymes With Puke.

10-14-2003, 05:41 AM	#25
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Panerd : I circled his name myself :-) Illifan : yep, I used Photoshop. very easy to do. Pumpy Tudors : Well I agree that his All-time career rating is very good, not great (would rank #2 alll time in the NFL actually, so that's pretty good over 16 years) and that his completion % is under what 49er QBs use to have although I use a little variation of the west coast offense with my offenses. However, one can't deny the multiple MVPs, the 10 SuperBowls, the 11 all-League awards (including 9 1st-team) etc etc.. I'll tell you something : when Brock Sheriff was quarterbacking my team, I had no fear. I KNEW we would win, no matter what. Too bad 4th quarter comebacks are not taken into account in FOF2 because he had quite a few (ala Peyton Manning with 20+ points with under 5 minutes to go...) He was truely AMAZING. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

10-14-2003, 05:51 PM	#27
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	How did you get the same kind of font for the name on the jersey? I'm still a photoshop noob, and am stuck with using normal fonts. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-14-2003, 06:49 PM	#28
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Okay, break it down like this: Brock Sheriff's playing days are over. The endorsements still trickle in, but does he really need the money? At what point do you start to feel like a George Foreman media-whore? He's already in the HOF, and his records can't be added to, only beaten. He's sowed his oats, had his career, and gotten the glory. What's left? Eventually, sooner or later, the dude's gonna die. And if that's the next hurdle to face, a person has to ask, "Should I be born again? Or just let this body die without a well-based hope for the afterlife?" Given the ol' Pascal's wager, I'd suggest Brock Sheriff go ahead and be born again. Of course, you had to know revrew would arrive at that opinion. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

10-14-2003, 06:53 PM	#29
Phoenix Mascot Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale/Miami, FL	Go with Brock Sheriff, Jr. __________________ YO PHOENIX MAN

09-13-2005, 10:41 PM	#32
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	How did Sherriff's replacement do over the course of his career? Any updates on this? __________________ Toujour Pret

09-14-2005, 01:32 PM	#33
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	And is Brock trying to get off of the drugs?

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