Topps Announces 2004 Inserts

CamEdwards · 10-26-2003, 09:58 AM

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From Woodrow Wilson throwing out the first pitch in Game 2 of the 1915 World Series to former Texas Rangers managing partner and current president George W. Bush throwing a strike before Game 3 of the 2001 World Series, U.S. presidents and baseball have long been synonymous.

Now, 2004 Topps Baseball Series One, releasing November 12, brings the two together in a hand-numbered 1-of-1 series of inserts known as American Treasures. These cards feature a signature of each of the 42 different U.S. Presidents, cut from authentic documents. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Grover Cleveland, James Monroe and John F. Kennedy are all featured in a set that transcends the game and is sure to be talked about for years to come.

It's one thing for you to cut Dubya's signature from a letter... it's another thing to do it do something George Washington signed. Couldn't you just make the insert redeemable for entire document, rather than cutting up a piece of history?

I also wonder what president will go for the least amount of money on Ebay. I'm guessing Millard Fillmore, John Tyler, or Herbert Hoover.

korme · 10-26-2003, 10:26 AM

Yeah, who the hell is Millard Fillmore. He shouldn't even count as a President.

Buccaneer · 10-26-2003, 10:54 AM

One of the big firestorms recently is that Donruss paid over $250,000 for one of three remaining game-used Babe Ruth jerseys. The will (or already have) cut it up in tiny pieces so they can put them on card inserts.

Since I am now back in the hobby/business, my hatred for anything produced since the 1990s, esp. inserts, have grown tremendously.

Buccaneer · 10-26-2003, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Shorty3281
Yeah, who the hell is Millard Fillmore. He shouldn't even count as a President.

And this is from someone that doesn't think that life existed before 1990. Having a historical reference coming from you is funny, to say the least.

EagleFan · 10-26-2003, 11:31 AM

Give Shorty a break, his school has mystery class instead of history.

cuervo72 · 10-26-2003, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
One of the big firestorms recently is that Donruss paid over $250,000 for one of three remaining game-used Babe Ruth jerseys. The will (or already have) cut it up in tiny pieces so they can put them on card inserts.

Since I am now back in the hobby/business, my hatred for anything produced since the 1990s, esp. inserts, have grown tremendously.

Yup, I don't know if I'll ever bother with anything from the 90's on either. I hope someone can stop Donruss from doing this, but I doubt it. Hopefully they'll come to their senses, and have game inserts in a contest to win the uniform rather than chopping it to bits.

Oh, as for the presidents, howabout Polk, Buchanan and Van Buren?

sterlingice · 10-26-2003, 09:26 PM

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We are the mediocre presidents.
You won't find our faces on dollars or on cents!
There's Taylor, there's Tyler, there's Fillmore and there's Hayes.
There's William Henry Harrison, ``I died in thirty days!''
We... are... the... adequate, forgettable, occasionally regrettable
Caretaker presidents of the U-S-A!

Yeah, I think everything I learned in life, I learned from the Simpsons.

SI

daedalus · 10-27-2003, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by Buccaneer
One of the big firestorms recently is that Donruss paid over $250,000 for one of three remaining game-used Babe Ruth jerseys. The will (or already have) cut it up in tiny pieces so they can put them on card inserts.

What. The. Fuck.

There's, like, wrong and then there's, like, SO VERY F'ING WRONG. That's just insanely f'ed up.

Neuqua · 10-27-2003, 03:44 AM

like totally!

daedalus · 10-27-2003, 03:55 AM

Indeed!

I really do need to get out of that habit. Heh.

Mustang · 10-27-2003, 11:49 AM

Ok, seems most everyone is against this but, look at it on the other side.

If you have a contest to win Babe Ruth's jersey, there is absolutely no way the average person is going to be able to keep it. The tax alone will probably run, what, 60K on the jersey so, the person will be forced to sell it to someone that is going to put it in there own place and no one will see it anyway.

The practice of taking old memorabilia allows the average person to own a part of such an item that they normally would never ever be able to afford.

Having said that, items that have historical significance shouldn't be chopped up. (Say if it was Babe Ruths jersey that he wore in his last game or Lou Gehrig's jersey that he wore during his speech).

cuervo72 · 10-27-2003, 12:09 PM

Having a jersey swath really does nothing for me. I'd rather have a chance to win the contest and pocket the money from selling the jersey.

Reminds me....the mother of a friend in college won a Delorean in a contest. She couldn't afford to keep it.

Mustang · 10-27-2003, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by cuervo72
Having a jersey swath really does nothing for me. I'd rather have a chance to win the contest and pocket the money from selling the jersey.

Well, I'd put this in the no shit category. I'd rather have $200K than a swatch. I'm talking general here... cutting up the jersey can allow hundreds to 'enjoy' owning a piece of it instead of just one McFarlane.

cuervo72 · 10-27-2003, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang
So why even have a contest for a jersey? Just have a contest for money.

The same could be said for just about any big contest.

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cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Having a jersey swath really does nothing for me. I'd rather have a chance to win the contest and pocket the money from selling the jersey. Reminds me....the mother of a friend in college won a Delorean in a contest. She couldn't afford to keep it. __________________ null

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korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Yeah, who the hell is Millard Fillmore. He shouldn't even count as a President.

10-26-2003, 10:54 AM	#3
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	One of the big firestorms recently is that Donruss paid over $250,000 for one of three remaining game-used Babe Ruth jerseys. The will (or already have) cut it up in tiny pieces so they can put them on card inserts. Since I am now back in the hobby/business, my hatred for anything produced since the 1990s, esp. inserts, have grown tremendously.

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