3ric's FOF2k4 Viewer

sabotai · 11-19-2003, 03:55 PM

Can be downloaded here

Just follow the instructions on the website (a full 4 steps) and you're set to watch the play-by-plays.

MJ4H · 11-19-2003, 04:03 PM

Nice layout

Darkiller · 11-19-2003, 04:07 PM

link is dead ?

cthomer5000 · 11-19-2003, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darkiller
link is dead ?

working for me.

sabotai · 11-19-2003, 04:09 PM

it's working fine for me...

try going to just http://www.irregardless-productions.com

And try to find your way to the page linked above.

dolf34 · 11-19-2003, 04:11 PM

I can't download it. Says file not found.

Darkiller · 11-19-2003, 04:16 PM

Error 404 - File Not Found

Easy Mac · 11-19-2003, 04:18 PM

download works, but winzip says it isnt a valid archive.

Darkiller · 11-19-2003, 04:20 PM

ok now it works for me...funny link.
once every three tries. great work !!

sabotai · 11-19-2003, 04:23 PM

When I uploaded it, Dreamweaver crashed on me (and XP forgot to tell me...weird), that's why you got the invalid archive. It's working now

Ben E Lou · 11-19-2003, 04:25 PM

Adding link...

This sticky thread is gonna be an UNBELIEVABLE source of information. Thanks guys!!!

McSweeny · 11-19-2003, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Adding link...

This sticky thread is gonna be an UNBELIEVABLE source of information. Thanks guys!!!

i've been thinking the same thing. Great work SkyDog! And of course, many thanks to all those who have contributed

3ric · 11-20-2003, 01:00 AM

Thanks Sab for hosting! The page looks great!

Alf · 11-20-2003, 03:01 AM

Nice work 3ric !

Dutch · 11-20-2003, 11:42 AM

EDITED FOR DATED INFORMATION

MizzouRah · 11-21-2003, 06:18 PM

See, things such as these would really add to the game, imo.

Ok, so I like pretty.

Nice work.

Todd

3ric · 11-22-2003, 02:19 AM

A couple of things I forgot:
The helmets are easily replaced with other pictures (like logos) if you have a fictional league.

Team colors are editable in the "fof_teams.col" file, the format is:
city name, logo name, team abbreviation, RGB values for colors (three numbers for the first color, three for the second color).

The file "default.txt" contains the starting path to the log files.

Also, thanks to MattJones4Heisman, who did the original TCY Viewer, on which this utility is based.

gstelmack · 12-06-2003, 10:28 AM

Just wanted to say we've finally got our multiplayer league rolling, and this has added a ton to the immersion factor. Thanks!

MJ4H · 12-06-2003, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3ric

Also, thanks to MattJones4Heisman, who did the original TCY Viewer, on which this utility is based.

Glad its being put to good use.

maximus · 12-06-2003, 03:34 PM

3ric, that looks really nice. Good job.

DougW · 12-31-2003, 01:14 AM

3ric ... Awesome utility

was wondering though. Do you know how I can resize my logos without screwing them up? I am in an online league, all fictional teams, and our logos don't fit the utility right .. I got the border coloring down right, and then put the logos in .. but when I resize (using Paint) it screws up the coloring. Thanks

cwilloughby · 12-31-2003, 02:59 AM

Nice Util!

3ric · 12-31-2003, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DougW
3ric ... Awesome utility

was wondering though. Do you know how I can resize my logos without screwing them up? I am in an online league, all fictional teams, and our logos don't fit the utility right .. I got the border coloring down right, and then put the logos in .. but when I resize (using Paint) it screws up the coloring. Thanks

Maybe it's best to just create a new image with the correct size and paste in the logo centralized, without resizing?

DougW · 12-31-2003, 03:35 PM

nm, I have a utility that does it just fine. Thanks ...

One more thing. I've been testing to see how all the helmets and colors are looking; It seems that the utility is not closing when I close it. Yes I don't see it anymore on my screen, but if I there is a ton of programs called view ( I noticed this when I couldn't work any more, and the comp. told me I was low on resource). I had to manual close them all again from cntl alt del. Any ideas

Sorry if I sound picky about an awesome program, thought you'd want to know

doug

MJ4H · 12-31-2003, 03:41 PM

Thats probably my fault. I was never good at ending programs in Visual Basic. Since this app is based on my code, Im sure the fault is mine. If anyone knows how to add cleaner exit code, maybe they could help.

cwilloughby · 01-08-2004, 01:25 AM

Add an End command in the unload event of the main form.

3ric · 01-08-2004, 05:28 AM

I'll take a look at it. The program exits properly when you use the "Exit" command in the "File" menu though.

Edit:
OK, here's the updated exe file:
fof2k4viewer.exe

Right-click on the link and save to disk and replace the old executable.

I'll probably do a new, improved, version with this fix included some time, since so many people are using it now. This "patch" unfortunately introduced another problem... :o

DougW · 01-23-2004, 09:33 PM

Hmm. I must have gotten to this link to late. It's not working, Using the Exit command works just great though. Thanks a lot !

FargoFreez aka fof playa · 01-23-2004, 09:59 PM

http://fidosoft.com/FOF

DougW · 01-23-2004, 10:47 PM

Thanks Fargo

gstelmack · 06-02-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ric

I'll probably do a new, improved, version with this fix included some time, since so many people are using it now. This "patch" unfortunately introduced another problem... :o

So now that I've got Extractor 2.0 out, I figured it was time to prod 3ric with a little guilt (

) and ask "so when is the improved version coming out"?

I use this to watch every single game played in our office league, but have a couple of bugs that get in the way (although it's still plenty usable even with these):

The aforementioned Exit problems (I can never remember to go to the menu, the "X" is just too enticing...)
The viewer will show "first down!" even if there's a penalty that negates a first down.
If a score is negated due to penalty, it still shows up in the score lists at the bottom, and it takes a few plays for the scoreboard to correct itself.
I've had a handful of games (like one per season) where the ball always stays on one end of the field. It dutifully marches up to the 50 yard line, then starts marching back. If you haven't seen this, I can send along a game log next time it happens.

TLK · 06-02-2004, 08:13 AM

This little tool provides me so much joy after a long night of work..... except when The Flats get their asses kicked... as in week 1...

3ric · 06-02-2004, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

So now that I've got Extractor 2.0 out, I figured it was time to prod 3ric with a little guilt (

) and ask "so when is the improved version coming out"?

I use this to watch every single game played in our office league, but have a couple of bugs that get in the way (although it's still plenty usable even with these):

The aforementioned Exit problems (I can never remember to go to the menu, the "X" is just too enticing...)
The viewer will show "first down!" even if there's a penalty that negates a first down.
If a score is negated due to penalty, it still shows up in the score lists at the bottom, and it takes a few plays for the scoreboard to correct itself.
I've had a handful of games (like one per season) where the ball always stays on one end of the field. It dutifully marches up to the 50 yard line, then starts marching back. If you haven't seen this, I can send along a game log next time it happens.

Errr, OK, I'll get to it as soon as I can. I should be able to keep the code up during work and get to it during short periods while waiting for other stuff. I've taken stabs at solving these problems before, so they are all "known" bugs. I'll also fix a stupid error with the *.col file (the one that holds the color codes), it contains all the IHOF, CFL and NFL teams, which wasn't supposed to happen. I had a PM conversation recently with a user that had problems because of that.

sovereignstar · 06-02-2004, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ric

Errr, OK, I'll get to it as soon as I can. I should be able to keep the code up during work and get to it during short periods while waiting for other stuff. I've taken stabs at solving these problems before, so they are all "known" bugs. I'll also fix a stupid error with the *.col file (the one that holds the color codes), it contains all the IHOF, CFL and NFL teams, which wasn't supposed to happen. I had a PM conversation recently with a user that had problems because of that.

Hey! You're not Fido!!!

gstelmack · 06-02-2004, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ric

Errr, OK, I'll get to it as soon as I can. I should be able to keep the code up during work and get to it during short periods while waiting for other stuff.

Weeee! I really do use this a ton as it adds quite a bit to game immersion and helps me keep an eye on my team in multiplayer leagues. Any tweaks are greatly appreciated.

Alf · 06-24-2004, 11:50 AM

Just starting using it today to view last weeek Bordeaux thomping of North Plainfield. Gret work !

2 questions :

1/ How do I change the teams colors (Bordeaux Burgundy & Marine blue make it difficult to read) ?

2/ How do I upload helmet images ?

3ric · 06-24-2004, 12:20 PM

In the fof_teams.col file, the line for Bordeaux contains six numbers which are the two colors in hexadecimal RGB format. (example: 255, 255, 255 is white and 0,0,0 is black.) Pick two colors that look nice and enter those for your team instead and save the file.

Helmet pictures: I can upload the ones I have and post the URL, just a second...

3ric · 06-24-2004, 12:27 PM

Update about the new version: I have PM:ed gstelmack with the link and he's tested it a bit but there's still a bug around with TD's getting called back by penalties... I'll try to fix it before my vacation in July...

3ric · 07-09-2004, 07:28 AM

Bump.

A new version is up: FOF2k4viewer.zip Fixes some bugs, but nothing major.

sachmo71 · 07-09-2004, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ric

Bump.

A new version is up: FOF2k4viewer.zip Fixes some bugs, but nothing major.

WhooT! Thanks, 3ric!

gstelmack · 07-09-2004, 08:03 AM

Thanks! Downloading now, will try it out some more once we get out of our offseason.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-09-2004, 08:03 AM

Great news !

One question : will it overwrite everything, including the personalized fof-teams.col file ?

gstelmack · 07-09-2004, 08:07 AM

On my machine it asked about any files that were newer, including default.txt. So I doubt it, but back yours up just in case.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-09-2004, 08:08 AM

Greg, it did the same for me. Cool !

3ric · 07-09-2004, 08:23 AM

Yeah, don't overwrite default.txt and fof_teams.col if you want to keep the personal settings. You can just extract the .exe file and replace the old manually if you want.

Alf · 07-12-2004, 04:06 PM

Me changing the game speed doesn't change anything at all. It always runs on ultra slow mode.

3ric · 07-12-2004, 04:25 PM

That's a new one, I've never heard of anyone else with that problem...?

Alf · 07-12-2004, 04:46 PM

It already happened with the previous version. I am running Win XP.

3ric · 07-13-2004, 03:27 AM

The only thing I can think of as a cause to the problem is that the timer component (which is in an external file) has been accidentally deleted or overwritten. But that don't sound possible considering you had that problem before as well...

gstelmack · 07-13-2004, 08:10 AM

I just checked quickly, and moving the slider is definitely changing the viewer speed for me. XP SP1.

11-19-2003, 04:07 PM	#3
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	link is dead ? __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

11-19-2003, 04:16 PM	#7
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Error 404 - File Not Found __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

11-19-2003, 04:20 PM	#9
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	ok now it works for me...funny link. once every three tries. great work !! __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

11-19-2003, 04:25 PM	#11
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Adding link... This sticky thread is gonna be an UNBELIEVABLE source of information. Thanks guys!!! __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

11-20-2003, 01:00 AM	#13
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Thanks Sab for hosting! The page looks great! __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

11-19-2003, 04:03 PM	#2
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Nice layout

11-19-2003, 04:09 PM	#5
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	it's working fine for me... try going to just http://www.irregardless-productions.com And try to find your way to the page linked above.

11-19-2003, 04:11 PM	#6
dolf34 n00b Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Florida	I can't download it. Says file not found.

11-19-2003, 04:18 PM	#8
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	download works, but winzip says it isnt a valid archive.

11-19-2003, 04:23 PM	#10
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	When I uploaded it, Dreamweaver crashed on me (and XP forgot to tell me...weird), that's why you got the invalid archive. It's working now

11-20-2003, 03:01 AM	#14
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Nice work 3ric ! __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

11-20-2003, 11:42 AM	#15
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	EDITED FOR DATED INFORMATION Last edited by Dutch : 08-04-2005 at 07:26 PM.

11-21-2003, 06:18 PM	#16
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	See, things such as these would really add to the game, imo. Ok, so I like pretty. Nice work. Todd

11-22-2003, 02:19 AM	#17
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	A couple of things I forgot: The helmets are easily replaced with other pictures (like logos) if you have a fictional league. Team colors are editable in the "fof_teams.col" file, the format is: city name, logo name, team abbreviation, RGB values for colors (three numbers for the first color, three for the second color). The file "default.txt" contains the starting path to the log files. Also, thanks to MattJones4Heisman, who did the original TCY Viewer, on which this utility is based. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

12-06-2003, 10:28 AM	#18
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Just wanted to say we've finally got our multiplayer league rolling, and this has added a ton to the immersion factor. Thanks! __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

12-06-2003, 03:34 PM	#20
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	3ric, that looks really nice. Good job.

12-31-2003, 01:14 AM	#21
DougW High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Downriver, MI	3ric ... Awesome utility was wondering though. Do you know how I can resize my logos without screwing them up? I am in an online league, all fictional teams, and our logos don't fit the utility right .. I got the border coloring down right, and then put the logos in .. but when I resize (using Paint) it screws up the coloring. Thanks

12-31-2003, 02:59 AM	#22
cwilloughby Mascot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Nice Util!

12-31-2003, 03:35 PM	#24
DougW High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Downriver, MI	nm, I have a utility that does it just fine. Thanks ... One more thing. I've been testing to see how all the helmets and colors are looking; It seems that the utility is not closing when I close it. Yes I don't see it anymore on my screen, but if I there is a ton of programs called view ( I noticed this when I couldn't work any more, and the comp. told me I was low on resource). I had to manual close them all again from cntl alt del. Any ideas Sorry if I sound picky about an awesome program, thought you'd want to know doug

12-31-2003, 03:41 PM	#25
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Thats probably my fault. I was never good at ending programs in Visual Basic. Since this app is based on my code, Im sure the fault is mine. If anyone knows how to add cleaner exit code, maybe they could help.

01-08-2004, 01:25 AM	#26
cwilloughby Mascot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Add an End command in the unload event of the main form.

01-08-2004, 05:28 AM	#27
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	I'll take a look at it. The program exits properly when you use the "Exit" command in the "File" menu though. Edit: OK, here's the updated exe file: fof2k4viewer.exe Right-click on the link and save to disk and replace the old executable. I'll probably do a new, improved, version with this fix included some time, since so many people are using it now. This "patch" unfortunately introduced another problem... :o __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC! Last edited by 3ric : 01-24-2004 at 01:10 AM.

01-23-2004, 09:33 PM	#28
DougW High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Downriver, MI	Hmm. I must have gotten to this link to late. It's not working, Using the Exit command works just great though. Thanks a lot !

01-23-2004, 09:59 PM	#29
FargoFreez aka fof playa Banned Join Date: Dec 2003	http://fidosoft.com/FOF

01-23-2004, 10:47 PM	#30
DougW High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Downriver, MI	Thanks Fargo

06-02-2004, 08:13 AM	#32
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	This little tool provides me so much joy after a long night of work..... except when The Flats get their asses kicked... as in week 1...

06-24-2004, 11:50 AM	#36
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Just starting using it today to view last weeek Bordeaux thomping of North Plainfield. Gret work ! 2 questions : 1/ How do I change the teams colors (Bordeaux Burgundy & Marine blue make it difficult to read) ? 2/ How do I upload helmet images ? __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

06-24-2004, 12:20 PM	#37
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	In the fof_teams.col file, the line for Bordeaux contains six numbers which are the two colors in hexadecimal RGB format. (example: 255, 255, 255 is white and 0,0,0 is black.) Pick two colors that look nice and enter those for your team instead and save the file. Helmet pictures: I can upload the ones I have and post the URL, just a second... __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

06-24-2004, 12:27 PM	#38
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Update about the new version: I have PM:ed gstelmack with the link and he's tested it a bit but there's still a bug around with TD's getting called back by penalties... I'll try to fix it before my vacation in July... __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

07-09-2004, 07:28 AM	#39
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Bump. A new version is up: FOF2k4viewer.zip Fixes some bugs, but nothing major. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC! Last edited by 3ric : 07-09-2004 at 07:29 AM.

07-09-2004, 08:03 AM	#41
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Thanks! Downloading now, will try it out some more once we get out of our offseason. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-09-2004, 08:03 AM	#42
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Great news ! One question : will it overwrite everything, including the personalized fof-teams.col file ? __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-09-2004, 08:07 AM	#43
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	On my machine it asked about any files that were newer, including default.txt. So I doubt it, but back yours up just in case. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-09-2004, 08:08 AM	#44
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Greg, it did the same for me. Cool ! __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-09-2004, 08:23 AM	#45
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Yeah, don't overwrite default.txt and fof_teams.col if you want to keep the personal settings. You can just extract the .exe file and replace the old manually if you want. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!