This Andy Kaufman story...

rexallllsc · 05-19-2004, 08:21 PM

Must be a hoax, huh?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...234/726q1.html

Suicane75 · 05-19-2004, 08:23 PM

Kaufmanesque indeed, but it couldn't be him.............could it?

sabotai · 05-19-2004, 08:27 PM

Well, the blog link in the news story is already a dead link...I'd bet it's not him.

Ragone · 05-19-2004, 08:35 PM

its not dead.. its getting heavy traffic

Suicane75 · 05-19-2004, 08:37 PM

I like how it talks about an interview with ABC, yet I have seen no such interview.

Chubby · 05-19-2004, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I like how it talks about an interview with ABC, yet I have seen no such interview.

in the blog he says that they wouldn't touch the story with a 10 foot pole.

I wouldn't be surprised but who knows. The blog has some good reading at least.

JeeberD · 05-19-2004, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I like how it talks about an interview with ABC, yet I have seen no such interview.

This is taken from the blog...

"Also, it wasn't ABC News that interviewed me. It was some British entertainment mag -- apparently I'm huge over there."

Suicane75 · 05-19-2004, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD

This is taken from the blog...

"Also, it wasn't ABC News that interviewed me. It was some British entertainment mag -- apparently I'm huge over there."

My Bad.

sabotai · 05-19-2004, 08:48 PM

I think Andy Kaufman would have more creativity than to make his huge return on a blog.

JeeberD · 05-19-2004, 08:50 PM

So people actually pay to have sex with those "women" that are shown in the Bunny Ranch pics? Scary...

Chubby · 05-19-2004, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD

So people actually pay to have sex with those "women" that are shown in the Bunny Ranch pics? Scary...

Save your money for the celeb porn stars that show up.

I thought the Bunny Ranch got closed down tho...

Suicane75 · 05-19-2004, 08:52 PM

It looks like they all get their lips at the same place, those smiles are creepy.

corbes · 05-20-2004, 07:19 AM

so are we thinking this is real or not?

Ksyrup · 05-20-2004, 07:34 AM

That's the beauty of it, we'll never know for sure. If he was really dying way back when, and knew it, then he had the opportunity to set this whole thing up with one or two people. And his family is likely in on it, at least from the standpoint that they probably wouldn't give proof that it's him or not, or even if they did, maybe they're doing it to honor a dying man's wish?

There are so many possibilities, no one will ever know the truth. And that's exactly what he (or whomever is doing this) wants.

Blax · 05-20-2004, 07:41 AM

Andy Kaufman once said that if he died at an early age he was more than likely faking it. The only way anyone would know is when he re-appeared 20 years later. (or something close)

Frankly...I think hes dead and that this guy is either an imposter or his buddy Bob. First Impression only of course. No one would ever put anything like that past Kaufman. Weird mother there.

corbes · 05-20-2004, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

That's the beauty of it, we'll never know for sure. If he was really dying way back when, and knew it, then he had the opportunity to set this whole thing up with one or two people. And his family is likely in on it, at least from the standpoint that they probably wouldn't give proof that it's him or not, or even if they did, maybe they're doing it to honor a dying man's wish?

There are so many possibilities, no one will ever know the truth. And that's exactly what he (or whomever is doing this) wants.

so he's achieved immortality, then.

Ksyrup · 05-20-2004, 08:03 AM

It's pretty clear that his purpose in "returning" is not really to return, but to keep everyone guessing. If he wanted to announce this whole thing as a joke and end it, he'd be far more public about it. No, the joke is meant to continue - either he's had his laughs about how this would play out 20 years ago before he died, or he's still living and laughing about it now.

With the "advances" in investigative reporting over the past 20 years, you'd think someone could break this story one way or the other. I can't imagine some young Geraldo-wannabe wouldn't want to have this on his resume. That the big news agencies are content to leave well enough alone doesn't surprise me, but all it takes is a few independent, hungry reporters to expose this one way or the other.

CamEdwards · 05-20-2004, 08:42 AM

Kaufman was a better writer than this hack.

ISiddiqui · 05-20-2004, 09:26 AM

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/kaufman.asp

They say it's FALSE

Quote:

(Also note that the putative Andy Kaufman blog now disclaims that, contrary to details provided in the press release, he was not interviewed by ABC, and the alleged DNA testing was not conducted by the auditing firm of Ernst & Young. This seems rather transparently indicative of someone's having to backpedal after receiving complaints from companies disgruntled at having their names associated with a hoax, or at the very least of having to explain away why no one else has been able to confirm the same information.)

Samdari · 05-20-2004, 09:31 AM

I was just going to post exactly what Snopes said. Changing the name of the auditor and interviewer from a press release that you issued sends off bells. Duh.

Ksyrup · 05-20-2004, 11:35 AM

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So, who wants to call this guy?

rexallllsc · 05-20-2004, 01:32 PM

It's Bob Zmuda.

Samdari · 05-20-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

It's Bob Zmuda.

Is this a guess, or the result of some research?

rexallllsc · 05-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

Is this a guess, or the result of some research?

They showed a picture of Zmuda in the Tony Clifton gear @ the Kaufman return party...and now all the pictures of Kaufman floating around look just like Zmuda in the Clifton character.

Jon · 05-20-2004, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Kaufman was a better writer than this hack.

For once, I agree with Cam...

Kaufman would have done it in a much more creative manner than simply posting a blog. The man was a genius...

rkmsuf · 05-20-2004, 02:06 PM

The fact that it is even considered as a possiblity for more than a second is amazing.

Ksyrup · 05-20-2004, 02:48 PM

OK, how about this twist? First:

Server Used: [ whois.melbourneit.com ]

www.andykaufmanlives.com = [ 66.218.79.184 ]
Domain Name.......... andykaufmanlives.com
Creation Date........ 2003-08-28
Registration Date.... 2003-08-28
Expiry Date.......... 2004-08-28
Organisation Name.... Stephen Maddox
Organisation Address. 1187 Emerald Lakes Dr
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Greenwood
Organisation Address. 46143
Organisation Address. IN
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... Stephen Maddox
Admin Address........ 1187 Emerald Lakes Dr
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Greenwood
Admin Address........ 46143
Admin Address........ IN
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... [email protected]
Admin Phone.......... 1.3178851608
Admin Fax............
Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... [email protected]
Tech Phone........... 1.6198813096
Tech Fax............. 1.6198813010
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com

Then, from andykaufmanisdead.blogspot.com:

It's really Stephen Maddox

Andy Kaufman is Dead. I knew Steve was thinking about this - but this takes the cake. I'm here to tell you all that this 55 yr old online Kaufman is actually Stephen Maddox. I'm tired of this. Steve's my husband and now he's spending all this time online. I want my husband back!

LOL!

Ksyrup · 05-20-2004, 02:49 PM

Dola.

andykaufmanlives.com is a mirror for andykaufmanreturns.com.

John Galt · 05-20-2004, 02:54 PM

I like the followup comment:

Really?
Then please tell me what is the name of my/his favorite pet?

05-19-2004, 08:50 PM	#10
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	So people actually pay to have sex with those "women" that are shown in the Bunny Ranch pics? Scary... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

05-20-2004, 07:34 AM	#14
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That's the beauty of it, we'll never know for sure. If he was really dying way back when, and knew it, then he had the opportunity to set this whole thing up with one or two people. And his family is likely in on it, at least from the standpoint that they probably wouldn't give proof that it's him or not, or even if they did, maybe they're doing it to honor a dying man's wish? There are so many possibilities, no one will ever know the truth. And that's exactly what he (or whomever is doing this) wants. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 05-20-2004 at 07:35 AM.

05-20-2004, 08:03 AM	#17
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	It's pretty clear that his purpose in "returning" is not really to return, but to keep everyone guessing. If he wanted to announce this whole thing as a joke and end it, he'd be far more public about it. No, the joke is meant to continue - either he's had his laughs about how this would play out 20 years ago before he died, or he's still living and laughing about it now. With the "advances" in investigative reporting over the past 20 years, you'd think someone could break this story one way or the other. I can't imagine some young Geraldo-wannabe wouldn't want to have this on his resume. That the big news agencies are content to leave well enough alone doesn't surprise me, but all it takes is a few independent, hungry reporters to expose this one way or the other. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-20-2004, 08:42 AM	#18
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	Kaufman was a better writer than this hack. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

05-20-2004, 09:31 AM	#20
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	I was just going to post exactly what Snopes said. Changing the name of the auditor and interviewer from a press release that you issued sends off bells. Duh. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

05-19-2004, 08:23 PM	#2
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Kaufmanesque indeed, but it couldn't be him.............could it?

05-19-2004, 08:27 PM	#3
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Well, the blog link in the news story is already a dead link...I'd bet it's not him.

05-19-2004, 08:35 PM	#4
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	its not dead.. its getting heavy traffic

05-19-2004, 08:37 PM	#5
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I like how it talks about an interview with ABC, yet I have seen no such interview.

05-19-2004, 08:48 PM	#9
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I think Andy Kaufman would have more creativity than to make his huge return on a blog.

05-19-2004, 08:52 PM	#12
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	It looks like they all get their lips at the same place, those smiles are creepy.

05-20-2004, 07:19 AM	#13
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	so are we thinking this is real or not?

05-20-2004, 07:41 AM	#15
Blax n00b Join Date: May 2004	Andy Kaufman once said that if he died at an early age he was more than likely faking it. The only way anyone would know is when he re-appeared 20 years later. (or something close) Frankly...I think hes dead and that this guy is either an imposter or his buddy Bob. First Impression only of course. No one would ever put anything like that past Kaufman. Weird mother there.

05-20-2004, 11:35 AM	#21
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	www.andykaufmanreturns.com = [ ] Registration and WHOIS Service Provided By: directNIC.com Intercosmos Media Group Inc. provides the data in the directNIC.com Registrar WHOIS database for informational purposes only. The information may only be used to assist in obtaining information about a domain name's registration record. directNIC makes this information available "as is " and does not guarantee its accuracy. Registrant: Digital Internet Solutions 809 West 1st Street 3 Tempe AZ 85280 US 602-316-1141 Domain Name: ANDYKAUFMANRETURNS.COM Administrative Contact: Camp JJ [email protected] 809 West 1st Street 3 Tempe AZ 85280 US 602-316-1141 Technical Contact: Camp JJ [email protected] 809 West 1st Street 3 Tempe AZ 85280 US 602-316-1141 Record expires on 05-19-2005 Record created on 05-19-2004 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.SWIFTWILL.COM NS2.SWIFTWILL.COM So, who wants to call this guy? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-20-2004, 01:32 PM	#22
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	It's Bob Zmuda.

05-20-2004, 02:06 PM	#26
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	The fact that it is even considered as a possiblity for more than a second is amazing. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

05-20-2004, 02:48 PM	#27
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	OK, how about this twist? First: Server Used: [ whois.melbourneit.com ] www.andykaufmanlives.com = [ 66.218.79.184 ] Domain Name.......... andykaufmanlives.com Creation Date........ 2003-08-28 Registration Date.... 2003-08-28 Expiry Date.......... 2004-08-28 Organisation Name.... Stephen Maddox Organisation Address. 1187 Emerald Lakes Dr Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Greenwood Organisation Address. 46143 Organisation Address. IN Organisation Address. UNITED STATES Admin Name........... Stephen Maddox Admin Address........ 1187 Emerald Lakes Dr Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Greenwood Admin Address........ 46143 Admin Address........ IN Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... [email protected] Admin Phone.......... 1.3178851608 Admin Fax............ Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. Tech Address......... Tech Address......... Sunnyvale Tech Address......... 94089 Tech Address......... CA Tech Address......... UNITED STATES Tech Email........... [email protected] Tech Phone........... 1.6198813096 Tech Fax............. 1.6198813010 Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com Then, from andykaufmanisdead.blogspot.com: It's really Stephen Maddox Andy Kaufman is Dead. I knew Steve was thinking about this - but this takes the cake. I'm here to tell you all that this 55 yr old online Kaufman is actually Stephen Maddox. I'm tired of this. Steve's my husband and now he's spending all this time online. I want my husband back! LOL! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-20-2004, 02:49 PM	#28
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Dola. andykaufmanlives.com is a mirror for andykaufmanreturns.com. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-20-2004, 02:54 PM	#29
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	I like the followup comment: Really? Then please tell me what is the name of my/his favorite pet? __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

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