Noob injury question...

JFiz · 06-28-2004, 07:10 AM

Quick question here.... at what point, do doctors really make a significant difference? My situation is one of my more important players got injured yesterday, and is out for 2 weeks. I know 2 isnt that long, but Id love for him to be back in 1 if at all possible. Is it possible? If I hire like 9 doctors, is there any formula that I can figure in and see if I can get him back in a week? Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

PilotMan · 06-28-2004, 07:22 AM

Important Injury = 10 doctors on staff

If you look ahead to the next match linup orders and your guy isn't red, then the game thinks he might be available for that match, but it isn't guaranteed.

JFiz · 06-28-2004, 01:15 PM

Thanks!

Vince · 06-28-2004, 02:26 PM

Also, the injury healing process depends a TON upon the players age. Anything over probably 28 means that it could take up to or past the injury length currently on there, even with Doctors. A young guy (17-22), however, will probably heal before that even without doctors.

JFiz · 06-29-2004, 07:09 AM

He is 19, but Im really bummed because even though he is only out 2 weeks, he is one of my only two keepers, and I train keepers! His training will be all screwed up

So for a two week injury, 19 years old, should I just skip the doctors? Im really low on $$ right now anyway, perhaps Ill just wait it out ...

Masked · 06-29-2004, 09:16 AM

Hire as many docs as you can afford (3 or 4?) - if you get him to +1 by thursday (3 updates from now). He will get training this week. He should reach bruised (bandaid) before your week 3 friendly/cup match.

Docs aren't really that expensive - the training is more valuable.

Matt2You · 06-29-2004, 11:28 AM

I had a 20 yo injured in the last league match, +2 also. Had 10 doctors on staff and have since got him to +1. I needed him badly for the next league match, plus... If his form took a hit... GAH!

KevinNU7 · 06-29-2004, 11:31 AM

Get atleast 1 doctor. I keep 3 on staff at all times

One_to7 · 06-29-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

I keep 3 on staff at all times

Yeesh. And I support you?

FrogMan · 06-29-2004, 02:16 PM

I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth...

FM

One_to7 · 06-29-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth...

FM

Eh, it's more fun ragging on kevin.

If you're online to watch your matches, why bother keeping them on staff? You can buy them following the match if needed. Of course, that doesn't work so well when you have international friendlies at horrible hours.

saintjo · 06-29-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan

I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth...

FM

i keep 10 psyo's on staff so that i dont need any doctors

actually, i do still get the occasional injury, but i just hire a doctor here or there as needed. none are on the permanent payroll.

FrogMan · 06-29-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by One_to7

Eh, it's more fun ragging on kevin.

If you're online to watch your matches, why bother keeping them on staff? You can buy them following the match if needed. Of course, that doesn't work so well when you have international friendlies at horrible hours.

I have found that you don't get the real effect of a doctor until you've paid his salary for a week, so not until the next Saturday. That, and I hated always having to pay the firing fee... Since any team usually always has a player or two on band-aid status, I keep the 2 to help with those nicked up players...

FM
PS: I had started a thread reporting on that "no effect until weekly report" thing... maybe I'll pull it later on...

One_to7 · 06-29-2004, 02:33 PM

[quote=FrogMan]I have found that you don't get the real effect of a doctor until you've paid his salary for a week, so not until the next Saturday. That, and I hated always having to pay the firing fee... QUOTE]
Hmm, haven't heard of that. Would definitely be interested in reading that thread if you have a chance to pull it sometime.

I kept 2 or 3 doctors on staff for a while. I was paranoid that as soon as I fired em, I'd have someone get hurt. Then I just wanted to save money and fired them. I've been pretty lucky with injuries so far, although I've had my starting keeper hurt in both offseasons I've been through.

FrogMan · 06-29-2004, 02:34 PM

Here's the post in the thread. I actually had not started the thread but was able to find it. That was when I decided I would always keep two doctors on staff...
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...882#post145882

FM
edit: to remove an unwanted dola...

One_to7 · 06-29-2004, 04:49 PM

Thanks for that. I'll have to try it next time I get an injury.

(so hopefully next season.

)

Mr. Wednesday · 06-30-2004, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_to7

Eh, it's more fun ragging on kevin.

If you're online to watch your matches, why bother keeping them on staff? You can buy them following the match if needed. Of course, that doesn't work so well when you have international friendlies at horrible hours.

My preference is to fire them after the midweek game, once all my injuries have healed. Friendlies at odd hours haven't been an issue for me for the most part, because I play friendly cups which are mostly U.S. teams and I last at least three weeks in the Open Cup.

JFiz · 06-30-2004, 07:30 AM

I picked up three doctors, time will tell if they help my poor keeper or no :\

One_to7 · 06-30-2004, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan

Here's the post in the thread. I actually had not started the thread but was able to find it. That was when I decided I would always keep two doctors on staff...
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...882#post145882

Blegh. Well, I just got a +4 injury to my 2nd best trainee. I have 5 doctors on staff right now, so I'm hiring 5 more right now. I won't be able to get a handle on the rate he's improving until the update after training, but I'll keep everyone posted if the rate changes after the econ update or not.

JFiz · 07-02-2004, 11:23 AM

Ok, here is my next stupid question hehe.

My player now shows the medicaly +1, which means one week out, however in his description it says "bruised, but training"..... what does that mean? Does that mean I can play him? Does that mean even if I dont play him in my leage or cup match this week, he still gets training? I just need clarification please.

bmalek · 07-02-2004, 11:31 AM

You can play him. Bruised but playing means that he will not play quite as well as normal (less stars), but he will receive training.

Mr. Wednesday · 07-02-2004, 11:35 AM

Bruised but training means that your player is not yet fit enough to play, but he will receive training for the week if appropriate (e.g. if he played in the league or cup match, or if you're training stamina or set pieces).

You will not be able to play him unless he has reached a bandaid / "bruised but playing" by gametime. If he shows up in black in the match lineup form, then he should be OK for that match, as I believe the healing predictor is conservative (does not take doctors into account).

JFiz · 07-03-2004, 11:43 AM

Ok, thanks!

06-28-2004, 07:22 AM	#2
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Important Injury = 10 doctors on staff If you look ahead to the next match linup orders and your guy isn't red, then the game thinks he might be available for that match, but it isn't guaranteed. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

06-28-2004, 01:15 PM	#3
JFiz H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI	Thanks! __________________ Manager of BuckNasty (223418) - V.155

06-28-2004, 02:26 PM	#4
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Also, the injury healing process depends a TON upon the players age. Anything over probably 28 means that it could take up to or past the injury length currently on there, even with Doctors. A young guy (17-22), however, will probably heal before that even without doctors. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-29-2004, 07:09 AM	#5
JFiz H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI	He is 19, but Im really bummed because even though he is only out 2 weeks, he is one of my only two keepers, and I train keepers! His training will be all screwed up So for a two week injury, 19 years old, should I just skip the doctors? Im really low on $$ right now anyway, perhaps Ill just wait it out ... __________________ Manager of BuckNasty (223418) - V.155

06-29-2004, 09:16 AM	#6
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	Hire as many docs as you can afford (3 or 4?) - if you get him to +1 by thursday (3 updates from now). He will get training this week. He should reach bruised (bandaid) before your week 3 friendly/cup match. Docs aren't really that expensive - the training is more valuable. Last edited by Masked : 06-29-2004 at 09:17 AM.

06-29-2004, 11:28 AM	#7
Matt2You H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Saint Louis	I had a 20 yo injured in the last league match, +2 also. Had 10 doctors on staff and have since got him to +1. I needed him badly for the next league match, plus... If his form took a hit... GAH! __________________ Owner of Saint Louis Imperfect Assembly, III.5 USA

06-29-2004, 11:31 AM	#8
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	Get atleast 1 doctor. I keep 3 on staff at all times __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

06-29-2004, 02:16 PM	#10
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

06-29-2004, 02:33 PM	#14
One_to7 Mascot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washingtonville, NY	[quote=FrogMan]I have found that you don't get the real effect of a doctor until you've paid his salary for a week, so not until the next Saturday. That, and I hated always having to pay the firing fee... QUOTE] Hmm, haven't heard of that. Would definitely be interested in reading that thread if you have a chance to pull it sometime. I kept 2 or 3 doctors on staff for a while. I was paranoid that as soon as I fired em, I'd have someone get hurt. Then I just wanted to save money and fired them. I've been pretty lucky with injuries so far, although I've had my starting keeper hurt in both offseasons I've been through. __________________ The Gunslingers: 3rd in V.41 College hockey > (insert sport here)

06-29-2004, 02:34 PM	#15
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	Here's the post in the thread. I actually had not started the thread but was able to find it. That was when I decided I would always keep two doctors on staff... http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...882#post145882 FM edit: to remove an unwanted dola... __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog... Last edited by FrogMan : 06-29-2004 at 02:34 PM.

06-29-2004, 04:49 PM	#16
One_to7 Mascot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washingtonville, NY	Thanks for that. I'll have to try it next time I get an injury. (so hopefully next season. ) __________________ The Gunslingers: 3rd in V.41 College hockey > (insert sport here)

06-30-2004, 07:30 AM	#18
JFiz H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI	I picked up three doctors, time will tell if they help my poor keeper or no :\ __________________ Manager of BuckNasty (223418) - V.155

07-02-2004, 11:23 AM	#20
JFiz H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI	Ok, here is my next stupid question hehe. My player now shows the medicaly +1, which means one week out, however in his description it says "bruised, but training"..... what does that mean? Does that mean I can play him? Does that mean even if I dont play him in my leage or cup match this week, he still gets training? I just need clarification please. __________________ Manager of BuckNasty (223418) - V.155

07-02-2004, 11:31 AM	#21
bmalek n00b Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL	You can play him. Bruised but playing means that he will not play quite as well as normal (less stars), but he will receive training. __________________ Brian Malek Atlas Mademedoits Hattrick Team ID: 223349

07-02-2004, 11:35 AM	#22
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Bruised but training means that your player is not yet fit enough to play, but he will receive training for the week if appropriate (e.g. if he played in the league or cup match, or if you're training stamina or set pieces). You will not be able to play him unless he has reached a bandaid / "bruised but playing" by gametime. If he shows up in black in the match lineup form, then he should be OK for that match, as I believe the healing predictor is conservative (does not take doctors into account).

07-03-2004, 11:43 AM	#23
JFiz H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI	Ok, thanks! __________________ Manager of BuckNasty (223418) - V.155

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