Any interest in a historical league?

[JeeberD]

I would love to be involved in an FOFC historical league using the historical files located at Senator's FOF Historical Project site. We could start with the 1970 roster file and work our way forward from there. Are there any other people out there that think this sort of league would be extremely cool?

[j25352857]

this was brought up in my league during the past week, and there was some interest for a league like this

[sachmo71]

i would be interested.

[fantastic flying froggies]

I might be, depending on time availability.

[3ric]

I'm VERY tempted, Senator and I actually mentioned the possibility back when FOF2k4 was released...

[Senator]

[JeeberD]

Excellent, I'm glad to hear that there are others out there who would like to do this. So what would be the next step into making this a reality?

[sachmo71]

A commish?

[JeeberD]

Yup, that would probably help. You volunteering for the job, Sach?

[fantastic flying froggies]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Yup, that would probably help. You volunteering for the job, Sach?

Well Jeeb, you did start this thread, didn't you ? I think that instantly qualifies you as a volunteer...

[sachmo71]

I can't and won't run this league. It would be a guaranteed failure. I don't have the time. Sorry.

[Vince]

I'd be interested, like triple F said, based upon time constraints. In four weeks, I'm done with school forever, so I should have LOTS of time

And no, I don't get a real-life job until next year, so yes, I will indeed have LOTS of free time

[JeeberD]

The problem I have with running the league is that I have very little technical knowledge when it comes to computers and programs, and I haven't the foggiest idea how to set up a website and message board. Maybe I should post something about this on the main board for those who may not come look here?

[sachmo71]

The commish doesn't necessarily have to run the website. Maybe someone in the league would be interested in doing the web design.

I think a quick message in general discussion would be a nice idea, since this league would be so unique.

[Passacaglia]

I'd be interested.

[Passacaglia]

Actually, I have a friend interested as well.

[Thul]

I would be that friend...

Sounds like great fun! I'd like to lay claim to the Jets!

Also...I'm a web developer on the side, so I could maintain a basic informational site for the league. I'd have to look into setting up a message board/chat before I make promises on that end.

- Thul

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Actually, I have a friend interested as well.

[sachmo71]

LET IT BE KNOWN...


I WANT TO BE THE GOSH DARN COWBOYS!!!

[Passacaglia]

All right, I'm heading out for the weekend. I'm definitely interested, though -- any team is fine. I'll be back Tuesday.

[Vince]

As long as we're laying claim...

...the 49ers are mine

I wouldn't mind being the commish if I have time...but I won't be able to answer the question of 'will I have enough time' until August at the earliest, and I'd think we want to start before then.

[duckman]

I like to be the Saints!

[Jesse_Ewiak]

Here's an sort of out there idea...

...actually having the "right" to 1 or 2 Franchise Player's per Decade. What does that mean? Basically, for each decade each team gets to pick one player thats associated with that team. (Example: 1980's 49ers: Jerry Rice).

But, in order to draft them, you have to either have a high enough pick to grab them yourself _or_ trade for the pick. Which means it will cost you. Also, you'd be taking the risk because maybe Joe Montana in "our" world is a flop. Just a idea, because thr NFL of 1970 is not that different from 2004 aside from eight new teams and a bit of divisional reorganziing.

- Jesse

[RendeR]

I would be willing to be an assistant-commish in charge of the website. I've in a number of leagues already and have suggested using the historical files in one of those leagues. some examples of my work are below:


http://mlf.majecc.net
http://mlf.majecc.net/sfl
http://bengals.majecc.net
http://maniax.majecc.net
http://renegades.majecc.net
http://diesel.majecc.net


whats one more league among addicts? =)

[Thul]

Re: Finding a "commish", etc...
It sounds like there are at least two people willing to pitch in on a league website (forums aside). We could run the league under a multi-team committee who would be in charge of setting rules, helping run the drafts, handle disputes, etc.

Perhaps that would take some pressure off whomever is the commish. That person would just have to set the schedules and run the stages.

If people don't mind a 1st-time commish, I'd be willing to volunteer.

- Thul

Originally Posted by JeeberD

I would love to be involved in an FOFC historical league using the historical files located at Senator's FOF Historical Project site. We could start with the 1970 roster file and work our way forward from there. Are there any other people out there that think this sort of league would be extremely cool?

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

LET IT BE KNOWN...


I WANT TO BE THE GOSH DARN COWBOYS!!!

Ahem. As the mofo whose idea it was to start this league I think I should have right of first refusal on the glorious Dallas Cowboys franchise...

Of course, if it's a huge deal I suppose that I could take the stinkin' Broncos instead.

Originally Posted by Thul

It sounds like there are at least two people willing to pitch in on a league website (forums aside). We could run the league under a multi-team committee who would be in charge of setting rules, helping run the drafts, handle disputes, etc.

That sounds like a good idea to me. I'll volunteer my services so that we can get this sucker off the ground. So does a committee of Thul, Vince, Render, and myself sound OK? Is there anyone else who would like to help out?

[JeeberD]

Dola-

The interested parties so far are:

JeeberD
j25352857
Sachmo
fff
3ric
Senator
Vince
Passacaglia
Thul
duckman
Jesse_Ewiak
RendeR

12 folks ain't a bad start. Hopefully we'll get some more folks in here after the holiday weekend...

[Thul]

We'd probably need at least one more person on a "commish" committee to break ties when voting on rules, or if there are any league disputes. Five or Seven teams should do it.

I've downloaded McKerney's Throwback Logos and all the draft files, and as a late comer to the FOF Historical Project site, I must say impressive work !

Also, we still need to resolve forum hosting...unless people want to just start in the FOF Dynasty forum here and move later when/if we find a perm home.?

- Thul

Originally Posted by JeeberD

That sounds like a good idea to me. I'll volunteer my services so that we can get this sucker off the ground. So does a committee of Thul, Vince, Render, and myself sound OK? Is there anyone else who would like to help out?

[JeeberD]

If we need one more "co-commish" I would hope that 3ric or Senator might be willing to be that person. They both know the historical files inside-out and also have plenty of multiplayer league experience...

[The_herd]

You can put me down as interested.

[3ric]

I'm heading out on vacation for a week, otherwise I'd be happy to help with anything. You might want to ping Nilodor about this league, he did more than half of the draftfiles. Anyone who's posted on Senator's site could be a potential owner, I guess.

[GoT]

I would claim the Buccaneers, do I HAVE to take the best player of the decade??????

[fantastic flying froggies]

If we're at the 'laying claims' stage, I'd like the Giants. I would just love to draft LT and build my big D around him again...

[Thul]

Re: Player of the Decade idea

It's an interesting idea, but how would it be implemented fairly? We could say that when LT, Rice, etc. comes into the league, the Giants, 49'ers, etc. would need to sacrifice a 1st round pick that year to "claim" them, but is that enough and is that fair for a team who really needs that player to be competitive?

I mean the Giants pick that year could be extremely low. It also puts historically bad franchises (TB) in a real bind if they can never qualify for some of the greatest players of all time.

I'm personally looking forward to just playing with the array of great historical players and seeing them all in action against each other. Let the chips fall where they may once the league rocks into motion. If TB lucks out and gets Barry Sanders, that's not the end of the world to me. They earned him.

I just want to see Barry Sanders in action

- Thul

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Thul

Re: Player of the Decade idea

It's an interesting idea, but how would it be implemented fairly? We could say that when LT, Rice, etc. comes into the league, the Giants, 49'ers, etc. would need to sacrifice a 1st round pick that year to "claim" them, but is that enough and is that fair for a team who really needs that player to be competitive?

I mean the Giants pick that year could be extremely low. It also puts historically bad franchises (TB) in a real bind if they can never qualify for some of the greatest players of all time.

I'm personally looking forward to just playing with the array of great historical players and seeing them all in action against each other. Let the chips fall where they may once the league rocks into motion. If TB lucks out and gets Barry Sanders, that's not the end of the world to me. They earned him.

I just want to see Barry Sanders in action

- Thul

It's per decade, so it would be a chance that doesn't come about very often. Also, almost every team had at least one player good enough to warrant sacrificing their first round pick...at least I think so?

I like this rule, but it's a bit more of a headache for the commish.


Jeebs...about the cowboys, i would feel like a pretty big shit heel if I took them from you. It was your idea, after all. However, my alternate choice would be the Saints, and it appears that they have been claimed.

Now I don't know what to do.

[Thul]

Player/Team interest update

Proposed "Commish" Council:
JeeberD - Broncos/Cowboys?
RendeR - Seattle
Thul - Jets
Vince - 49ers
3ric/Senator/Nilodor?

Players Interested:
Sachmo - Cowboys?
duckman - Saints
GoT - Bucs
Fantastic Flying Froggies - Giants
j25352857
fff
3ric
Senator
Passacaglia
Jesse_Ewiak
The_herd

[Thul]

I like the rule, too. I'm just not sure how to implement it fairly. I mean (and I'm just using him as an example) when LT comes up, he'll likely be a top 5 pick normally. What if the Giants don't pick until 25 that year? Is giving up the 25th pick to automatically get the 5th best player that year good enough? I know it doens't happen that often, but if the Lions pick 3rd that year and they really need an OLB, ouch.

I guess we could always say if your 1st round pick isn't high enough, you have to give up more (maybe 2 first rounders total) to claim them. This would be a good topic for a "commish" council to vote on each year...what each player is worth in draft picks.

We need Jimmy Johnson to provide us with his draft chart

- Thul

Originally Posted by sachmo71

It's per decade, so it would be a chance that doesn't come about very often. Also, almost every team had at least one player good enough to warrant sacrificing their first round pick...at least I think so?

I like this rule, but it's a bit more of a headache for the commish.

[j25352857]

Jeebs- next time you're on AIM, send a message to the name " merlinxx13".. he is the guy who brought it up in my league and could help out the commish council with ideas or whatever.



Btw- here is the discussion thread about this from my league, http://www.mindwipesports.net/forums...16&t=2248&st=0


I'll post a message telling those interested to come over here, or I can get their contact info for you, whatever.

[Buccaneer]

Do I assume you will be using real players and using the historical draft files?

[Thul]

That was my impression, based on JeeberD's first post.

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Do I assume you will be using real players and using the historical draft files?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Thul

I like the rule, too. I'm just not sure how to implement it fairly. I mean (and I'm just using him as an example) when LT comes up, he'll likely be a top 5 pick normally. What if the Giants don't pick until 25 that year? Is giving up the 25th pick to automatically get the 5th best player that year good enough? I know it doens't happen that often, but if the Lions pick 3rd that year and they really need an OLB, ouch.

I guess we could always say if your 1st round pick isn't high enough, you have to give up more (maybe 2 first rounders total) to claim them. This would be a good topic for a "commish" council to vote on each year...what each player is worth in draft picks.

We need Jimmy Johnson to provide us with his draft chart

- Thul

THe draft chart is already available at my website:

http://mlf.majecc.net

click the link in the top middle of the page.


As for what team I want...I can't really decide. I have the bengals in another league and currently my Football conglamorate has 4 teams east (or damn close) of the mississippi, I'm thinking I need a west coast club......

I'll take Seattle, If anyone can turn the seachickens around, its me =)

[Thul]

Nice. I figured someone out there had it!

Originally Posted by RendeR

THe draft chart is already available at my website:

http://mlf.majecc.net

[RendeR]

DOLA:

I have web space and message board abilities in my website, we can also setup team emails through it if we wish.

What are we calling this league anyway?

Historic League Football
NFL History
Has-Been Football League
Re-Write History League
National Historic League Football

someone pic something =) and I can get forums and a web page started.

[Thul]

How about HFL (Historic Football League)? Short and sweet.

Originally Posted by RendeR

What are we calling this league anyway?

[sachmo71]

NFL Legends Football League, Historic NFL, Historic Football League is good, too!

[RendeR]

Ok, the the HFL it is then. I'll get to work this weekend on a site, the message board will be:

http://www.majecc.net/hflboard




EDIT: ok, the board is up, I need the Commish group to register so I can give them permissions and wot-not, also I'd like at least one other person familiar with phpBB to help administrate the board itself. ANy takers?

[RendeR]

DOLA: ANyone who is good with designing phpBB board styles would be an EXCELLENT choice, as I haven't a clue beyond downloading someone elses crap =)

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by RendeR

DOLA: ANyone who is good with designing phpBB board styles would be an EXCELLENT choice, as I haven't a clue beyond downloading someone elses crap =)

Damn man, you are on busy FOF'n mofo!

Hope you still offer up some good idea's for the Imperial Football League like you have been doing....


and, uh, what is your sim schedule gonna be lke guys? if it fits my schedule then I want in!

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Damn man, you are on busy FOF'n mofo!

Hope you still offer up some good idea's for the Imperial Football League like you have been doing....


and, uh, what is your sim schedule gonna be lke guys? if it fits my schedule then I want in!

Heh, yeah, I've been busy =) and will be moreso I think. I'm off for about a month right now, then a short vacation before the fall semester starts in again. but I should have time for all 5 leagues. I spend more time sitting and waiting right now than anything else =)

I'm always open to requests, if there is something specific you want or need let me know.

[Thul]

Cringer- We'll probably have a better idea when people get back from the holiday. I'll just throw 2 games a week out there as a jumping off point...

Originally Posted by Cringer

and, uh, what is your sim schedule gonna be lke guys? if it fits my schedule then I want in!

RenderR - I figured it out and deleted my original post right when you answered it, of course Thanks, though.

Yeah, something antique-like would be cool. I have the picture of the Heisman Trophy in my head for some reason. A aged bronze was the look I was going to try when dabbling with a logo.

Originally Posted by RendeR

DOLA just means I was replying to my own post, or posting right after posting previously, you actually negated the DOLA by getting a post in in between mine


As for the styles, I dunno, we don't "need" anything beyond maybe a logo to throw in there, but I'm the kind of guy who likes to play with things and create more unique looks. I'm going to upload and install some other "styles" to the board, you can try them by changing your preferences in the proifle.

If you find one that looks good, let me know =)

[RendeR]

As for the styles, I dunno, we don't "need" anything beyond maybe a logo to throw in there, but I'm the kind of guy who likes to play with things and create more unique looks. I'm going to upload and install some other "styles" to the board, you can try them by changing your preferences in the proifle.

If you find one that looks good, let me know =)