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Old 11-19-2004, 11:33 AM   #1
samifan24
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Please post players in wrong positions in 5.1 here

I'd like to make a comprehensive list here to help anyone who updates the player file. So far, we have confirmed:

LCB DeAngelo Hall (Falcons)- Incorrectly listed at LB
LCB Dexter Wynn (Eagles) - Incorrectly listed at LB
SS Mike Boulware (Seahawks) - Incorrectly listed at CB
LCB Nathan Jones (Cowboys) - Incorrectly listed at LB
RCB Randall Gay (Patriots) - Incorrectly listed at LB
FS Will Allen (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as RCB
WLB Marquis Cooper (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as MLB
MLB Shelton Quarles (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB
WLB Derrick Brooks (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB
SLB Ian Gold (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as WLB
MLB Keith Burns (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB
SLB Ryan Nece (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as WLB
RCB Gary Baxter (Baltimore) - incorrectly listed as FS
LCB Keiwan Ratliff (Cincinnati) - incorrectly listed as WLB
FS Madieu Williams (Cincinnati) - incorrectly listed as CB
LCB Keith Smith (Detroit) - incorrectly listed as WLB
LCB Rich Gardner (Tennessee) - incorrectly listed as WLB
RCB Nathan Vasher (Chicago) - incorrectly listed as WLB
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:37 AM   #2
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Good idea, but could you also please update that list with the correct position too?
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:39 AM   #3
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CB Nathan Jones (Cowboys) - Incorrectly listed at LB
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:49 AM   #4
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Good idea, but could you also please update that list with the correct position too?
Thanks


i agree..that will help us go in and edit to correct position it should be..

thanks
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:54 AM   #5
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i agree..that will help us go in and edit to correct position it should be..

thanks

He already did, notice the right position before the player name
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:38 PM   #6
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randal gay of the patriots should be a DB instead of a LB
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:58 PM   #7
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what the best way to edit the realplayer file and make the changes?

do just i open the .csv file and what column i edit? and how i know what position number i put?

after i save it what is needed to be done next?


thanks
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:48 PM   #8
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FS Will Allen (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as RCB
WLB Marquis Cooper (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as MLB
MLB Shelton Quarles (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB
WLB Derrick Brooks (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB
SLB Ian Gold (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as WLB
MLB Keith Burns (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB
SLB Ryan Nece (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as WLB
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:55 PM   #9
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what the best way to edit the realplayer file and make the changes?

do just i open the .csv file and what column i edit? and how i know what position number i put?

after i save it what is needed to be done next?


thanks

when you buy the game, it comes with a help file to help you know what column stands for what category, i.e. team, position, etc.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:39 PM   #10
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when you buy the game, it comes with a help file to help you know what column stands for what category, i.e. team, position, etc.

It'a actually not the help file. You access that information by opening the player file generator.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:09 PM   #11
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by the way, it would be impossible to get all the contracts right, but some people might want to give Bears DE Adewale Ogunleye the big extention he signed after the acquired him. He still has the tiny one-year contract in the player file.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=1866081

Also, Jake Delhomme is set to become a free agent after 2004 in the player file. He signed a five-year contract extension on June 17, 2004. The deal locks him in with the Panthers through 2009 and is worth $38 million including $12 million bonus, according to the Charlotte Observer.

Also doesn't include these new contracts:
RB Ladainian Tomlinson
QB Chad Pennington
DE Aaron Schobel
WR Chris Chambers
LB Tedy Bruschi
LT Matt Light
FS Jermaine Phillips
LB Kieth Bullock

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Old 11-19-2004, 05:14 PM   #12
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thanks all...

so i guess i open it in excel the .csv file , and use the player file generator that comes with the game to convert the .csv file for the game..

this player file generator will have the instructions what each column means in the .csv file


going to purchase it this weekend....
its so cool how this game is so editable...

thanks so much guys
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:15 PM   #13
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thanks all...

so i guess i open it in excel the .csv file , and use the player file generator that comes with the game to convert the .csv file for the game..

this player file generator will have the instructions what each column means in the .csv file


going to purchase it this weekend....
its so cool how this game is so editable...

thanks so much guys

Yes, or you could wait to see if someone released an updated roster file
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:17 PM   #14
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my bad, it's been awhile since I've messed with that stuff.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:46 PM   #15
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Here's Patrick Ramsey's contract info from extremeskins.com:

Contract:

Current Contract: 5 years, $5.7 million, $3.1 million signing bonus.
Base Salaries: 2003: $430K; 2004: $1.016 million; 2005: $1.102 million; 2006: $1.188 million.
Contract Notes: Contract contains escalators based on percentage of offensive plays. If Ramsey plays 50% of offensive snaps, his base salary is accelerated to $2.5 million. 70% of snaps accelerates salary to $2.7 million. Over 70% of snaps accelerates salary to $2.9 million. Base salary in 2002 was $344K. Ramsey earned escalators at the end of the 2003 season that increased base salaries for 2004-2006 by $500K.

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Old 11-19-2004, 06:11 PM   #16
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by the way, it would be impossible to get all the contracts right, but some people might want to give Bears DE Adewale Ogunleye the big extention he signed after the acquired him. He still has the tiny one-year contract in the player file.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=1866081

Also, Jake Delhomme is set to become a free agent after 2004 in the player file. He signed a five-year contract extension on June 17, 2004. The deal locks him in with the Panthers through 2009 and is worth $38 million including $12 million bonus, according to the Charlotte Observer.


Jim explains why he did the contracts like he did..
here

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/f...4&postcount=48
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:15 PM   #17
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Jim explains why he did the contracts like he did..
here

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/f...4&postcount=48

I know that. This is for people who want to make the changes. If you don't care, then disregard.
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:10 PM   #18
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RCB Gary Baxter (Baltimore) - incorrectly listed as FS
CB Keiwan Ratliff (Cincinnati) - incorrectly listed as WLB
S Madieu Williams (Cincinnati) - incorrectly listed as CB

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Old 11-21-2004, 01:32 PM   #19
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is there a new real playerfile out with these fixes? or we have to edit it?
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:31 PM   #20
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CB Kieth Smith (Detroit) - incorrectly listed as WLB
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:09 AM   #21
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Here is some contract info for players with recently renegotiated contracts that didn't get included in the player file. The player file has them set to become free agents after 2004. The salaries are from the NFLPA and the prorated bonuses are from news reports. The format is 2004 salary/bonus, 2005 salary/bonus, etc.

QB Chad Pennington (Jets)
100/328
100/328
600/328
400/328
600/328
700/328
630/328

QB Jake Delhomme (Panthers)
54/315
67/200
478/200
640/200
619/200
583/200

RB Ladainian Tomlinson (Chargers)
46/265
54/265
425/265
500/265
575/265
672/265
800/265

WR Chris Chambers (Dolphins)
50/230
135/200
160/200
450/200
510/200
540/200

LT Matt Light (Patriots)
46/36
100/150
100/150
350/150
375/150
420/150
450/150

DE Adewale Ogunleye (Bears)
90/120
185/185
280/185
325/185
370/185
420/185

DE Aaron Schobel (Bills)
50/170
100/135
200/135
250/135
250/135
300/135

LB Kieth Bullock (Tennessee)
53/311
175/208
350/208
400/208
425/208
550/208

LB Tedy Bruschi (Patriots)
70/154
85/88
135/88
170/88

FS Jermaine Phillips (Buccaneers)
113/51
45/47
135/47
175/47
205/47

TE Alge Crumpler (Atlanta)
56/158
100/158
225/129
293/129
340/129
380/129
420/129

Note: Peyton Manning doesn't show a bonus in the last year of his contract. In fact, none of the players with 7-year deals show a bonus in the final year. Not sure if this is an input error or whether they are like this because the CBA expires or something else.

edit: added Alge Crumpler's new deal.

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Old 11-22-2004, 12:18 AM   #22
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yabanci

thanks for those contract updates.

so the rest of contract on the player file is like the nfl and pretty much accurate?
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:28 AM   #23
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yes, it looks pretty good.
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Old 11-22-2004, 01:23 AM   #24
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CB Rich Gardner (Tennessee) - incorrectly listed as WLB
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:56 PM   #25
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is the realplayerfile that available for download include the latest positions corrections and updated salary that been posted here?


or i need to download the realplayer file and manually edit ? if so when doen do i run the player file generator ..what do i put for year and salary cap? 2004?


thanks

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Old 11-23-2004, 07:49 PM   #26
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To my knowledge the corrections haven't been made. You need to make the edits in the .csv version and then use the player file generator to make it into an .ftd file that can be used witht he game. The starting year should be 2004.
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:04 PM   #27
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To my knowledge the corrections haven't been made. You need to make the edits in the .csv version and then use the player file generator to make it into an .ftd file that can be used witht he game. The starting year should be 2004.


thanks..

this is time consuming to edit it in .csv...i have to scroll the whole player list to find the name of the player to correct his postion and salary ..wish there was a faster way..

but i guess it will be worth it when all done
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:08 PM   #28
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There was a way.....back in FOF4. But for some unknown reason a very good player file editor that would have made these changes extremely easy was removed from the FOF2004 version of the game.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:33 PM   #29
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There was a way.....back in FOF4. But for some unknown reason a very good player file editor that would have made these changes extremely easy was removed from the FOF2004 version of the game.

good news

get the fof2004 editor i found here


its much easier to edit the nfl2004playerfile.fdt file and then make your corrections that people posted here...

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/fo...&threadid=16868
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:44 PM   #30
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:59 PM   #31
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CB Nathan Vasher (Chicago) - incorrectly listed as WLB

according to depth chart look like Right CB

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Old 11-24-2004, 05:46 PM   #32
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Note: Peyton Manning doesn't show a bonus in the last year of his contract. I'm assuming it should be 373.

This year bonuses (bonus'?) are only pro-rated over 6 years, not 7.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:56 PM   #33
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This year bonuses (bonus'?) are only pro-rated over 6 years, not 7.

so Peyton Manning should have no bonus on 7th year like it was originally?

what about the other salaries for the players above...should i put the bonus on the 7th year to zero and keep the rest the years bonus year 1-6 as it shows above?



thanks

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Old 11-27-2004, 01:05 AM   #34
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seems like some position are still wrong, even will new patch that came today 5.1a

for those of you that change the default fictional players to real player names..here is the position that needs to be edit below..


player id#2113 SS Will Allen (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as RCB

player id#408 MLB Shelton Quarles (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB

player id#804 SLB Ian Gold (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as WLB

player id#120 MLB Keith Burns (Bucs) -- incorrectly listed as SLB

player id#988 RCB Gary Baxter (Baltimore) - incorrectly listed as FS

player id#2131 FS Madieu Williams (Cincinnati) - incorrectly listed as SS

player id# 2109 RCB Nathan Vasher (Chicago) - incorrectly listed as LCB

be sure to change the salary and contract years on the post above by yabanci. they wasnt included on the latest 5.1 patch because those players sign contract extension this year..

Be sure to edit the default fictional player file too. i included the player id# above so you know which posiiton to change..

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Old 11-27-2004, 07:22 PM   #35
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