Who Better Tom Brady or Joe Montana?

jbmagic · 01-24-2005, 12:47 AM

If Tom Brady and the Patriots win another Superbowl

Who Better Tom Brady or Joe Montana?

sovereignstar · 01-24-2005, 12:48 AM

Trent Dilfer.

bbor · 01-24-2005, 12:51 AM

Montana.....hands down.

korme · 01-24-2005, 01:00 AM

Krenzel

sovereignstar · 01-24-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Krenzel

Shorty, be serious.

Brady or Dilfer?

SackAttack · 01-24-2005, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Who Better Tom Brady or Tony Montana?

Say hello to my leetle friend!

korme · 01-24-2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Who Better Tom Arnold or Joe Buck?

Hmm

Glengoyne · 01-24-2005, 01:15 AM

Hey this should be a poll.
-Montana
-Brady
-The Trout in Dan Marino's rectum.

Vince · 01-24-2005, 01:18 AM

Gah. Horrible. But I guess I'm going to have to live with it. I want them to lose just so Brady is never compared to Montana again.

Suicane75 · 01-24-2005, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Gah. Horrible. But I guess I'm going to have to live with it. I want them to lose just so Brady is never compared to Montana again.

Did I just hear someone call Brian Dawkins?

Suicane75 · 01-24-2005, 01:20 AM

Rosie O'Donnell or Roseanne Barr?

Sun Tzu · 01-24-2005, 01:22 AM

This thread offends me.

TLK · 01-24-2005, 01:32 AM

Who better den' Kanyon?

Ragone · 01-24-2005, 01:37 AM

Everybody

Suicane75 · 01-24-2005, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLionKing

Who better den' Kanyon?

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Originally Posted by Ragone

Everybody

Well played gentlemen, well played.

sabotai · 01-24-2005, 01:39 AM

Even if Brady wins this Superbowl, I can't see a comparison to Montana. He just hasn't been there long enough. Montana was a great QB for a decade, at least. Brady still needs some more great seasons. They don't all have to be Super Bowl seasons, but he's only started for 4, and in none of those years did he throw for 30+ TDs (granted, Montana only had one), but Brady has also thrown at least 12 INTs each year, while Montana had several season throwing fewer than 12 INTs. Brady's career YPA is 6.90, Montana's is 7.52. Brady's career Cmp% is 61.6%, Montana 63.2%.

The point is, Brady needs to keep this up for a good 5 more season before I think anyone can seriously give an argument that Brady is on the same level as Montana. (And let's face it, Brady isn't exactly going against teams in the playoffs that are really comparable to the Bears, Giants and the Redskins of the 80's.)

Darkiller · 01-24-2005, 03:23 AM

The thing about Brady is that he's only been in the league for 5 years, a starter for 4 years ...and this is his 3rd time leading his team to the SuperBowl !
Imagine he wins another with a 3rd SuperBowl MVP title...

amazing. It clearly defies NFL history...and what we are supposed to witness.

BigDawg · 01-24-2005, 05:45 AM

Hell I find it hard to put Brady in my top 10 with the likes of Super Joe, Marino, Elway, Foutes, Moon, Stabler, Farve, Young, Unitas.

Ask me again in 2-3 years

Darkiller · 01-24-2005, 05:48 AM

Stabler in your top 10 ?

Yossarian · 01-24-2005, 06:14 AM

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If Tom Brady and the Patriots win another Superbowl

Who Better Tom Brady or Dameyune Craig?

Huh?

korme · 01-24-2005, 02:00 PM

Rohan Davey

vtbub · 01-24-2005, 02:05 PM

If New England wins, he'll be in the top 3 clutch QB's of all time.

Frankly, the Montana comparison isn't absurd.

rkmsuf · 01-24-2005, 02:06 PM

Right now Brady is way better.

maximus · 01-24-2005, 02:10 PM

Montana.....hands up.

Cap Ologist · 01-24-2005, 02:18 PM

Until Tom Brady says "Hey look, there's John Candy. Let's drive 92 yards in 3:20 and win this thing", Joe Montana is better!

rkmsuf · 01-24-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap Ologist

Until Tom Brady says "Hey look, there's John Candy. Let's drive 92 yards in 3:20 and win this thing", Joe Montana is better!

I think he said "Hey, look over there. It's Kurt Warner's brother. Oh, I mean wife." and then drove to the winning field goal with a minute left.

DanGarion · 01-24-2005, 02:21 PM

For what it's worth.

Montana!

Hands Down.

Bar None!...

insert other cliche saying here.

Joe · 01-24-2005, 02:29 PM

Michael Vick. He's hall of fame material, ya know.

SunDancer · 01-24-2005, 02:32 PM

I say Brady. Montana has a much better roster around him, filled with Pro Bowlers, ect. in the then-free spending days. Brady has good players, but not even close to what Montana had.

SirFozzie · 01-24-2005, 02:35 PM

Montana is great.

Brady is very good.

How does Brady get great?

By continuing what he's doing (not the pace, if he continued to win Super Bowls at a 2 out of 3, or 3 out of 4 rate the rest of his career, they wouldn't compare him to Montana, they'd compare him to the Pope.... more like remain a good QB, win some clutch games, etcetera) for another 5-10 years.

maximus · 01-24-2005, 02:41 PM

Joe Brady is #1.

http://www.nersc.gov/~deboni/Compute...ges/Brady.html

cartman · 01-24-2005, 02:49 PM

I can't believe it hasn't been said yet, but neither of them could hold Dean Houston's jock. And both have tried.

Coffee Warlord · 01-24-2005, 02:54 PM

What about Marsha Brady?

jbmagic · 01-24-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

What about Marsha Brady?

it cant be her.

she the one that got hit in the nose with a football

digamma · 01-24-2005, 03:41 PM

If you preface it with, "at this point in his career," isn't it clearly Brady?

It took Montana 8 seasons to get to his 3rd Super Bowl. Brady's completion percentage is comparable to Montana's and he's thrown for more touchdowns and yards at this point in his career. Obviously, that comparison isn't perfect because of the greater importance of the short passing game today and the fact that this year is the first year the Pats have had a real stud at RB, but still the numbers are as good or better than Montana's at this point and he's ahead of where Montana was in championship terms.

sachmo71 · 01-24-2005, 03:43 PM

Aikman

revrew · 01-24-2005, 04:19 PM

Everyone knows Rick Mirer was the best quarterback to ever come out of Notre Dame. Therefore, it must be Brady.

sabotai · 01-24-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

By continuing what he's doing (not the pace, if he continued to win Super Bowls at a 2 out of 3, or 3 out of 4 rate the rest of his career, they wouldn't compare him to Montana, they'd compare him to the Pope....

...or Otto Graham.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-24-2005, 05:41 PM

1) Montana, without hesitation nor doubt.

2) Mad props to TLK & Ragone for working in their earlier reference.

duckman · 01-24-2005, 06:09 PM

Quincy Carter.

ice4277 · 01-24-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by revrew

Everyone knows Rick Mirer was the best quarterback to ever come out of Notre Dame. Therefore, it must be Brady.

Uh, HELLLLOOOOOO, Ron Powlus anybody?

Anybody?

JeeberD · 01-24-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ice4277

Uh, HELLLLOOOOOO, Ron Powlus anybody?

Anybody?

No kidding. I mean, he did win three Heismans, right? Right?

SirFozzie · 01-24-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

...or Otto Graham.

8 Team AAFC vs 32 team NFL.. mmmmhmm

sabotai · 01-24-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

8 Team AAFC vs 32 team NFL.. mmmmhmm

Yeah, all that talent queezed into 8 teams while the NFL has it spread out over 32. Much harder for Otto.

clintl · 01-24-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkiller

Stabler in your top 10 ?

Stabler was certainly in the top 10 for personality.

Ragone · 01-24-2005, 08:36 PM

Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

01-24-2005, 12:51 AM	#3
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Montana.....hands down. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

01-24-2005, 01:18 AM	#9
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Gah. Horrible. But I guess I'm going to have to live with it. I want them to lose just so Brady is never compared to Montana again. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-24-2005, 01:22 AM	#12
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01-24-2005, 01:39 AM	#16
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Even if Brady wins this Superbowl, I can't see a comparison to Montana. He just hasn't been there long enough. Montana was a great QB for a decade, at least. Brady still needs some more great seasons. They don't all have to be Super Bowl seasons, but he's only started for 4, and in none of those years did he throw for 30+ TDs (granted, Montana only had one), but Brady has also thrown at least 12 INTs each year, while Montana had several season throwing fewer than 12 INTs. Brady's career YPA is 6.90, Montana's is 7.52. Brady's career Cmp% is 61.6%, Montana 63.2%. The point is, Brady needs to keep this up for a good 5 more season before I think anyone can seriously give an argument that Brady is on the same level as Montana. (And let's face it, Brady isn't exactly going against teams in the playoffs that are really comparable to the Bears, Giants and the Redskins of the 80's.) Last edited by sabotai : 01-24-2005 at 01:40 AM.

01-24-2005, 03:23 AM	#17
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	The thing about Brady is that he's only been in the league for 5 years, a starter for 4 years ...and this is his 3rd time leading his team to the SuperBowl ! Imagine he wins another with a 3rd SuperBowl MVP title... amazing. It clearly defies NFL history...and what we are supposed to witness. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

01-24-2005, 12:48 AM	#2
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Trent Dilfer.

01-24-2005, 01:00 AM	#4
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Krenzel

01-24-2005, 01:15 AM	#8
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Hey this should be a poll. -Montana -Brady -The Trout in Dan Marino's rectum.

01-24-2005, 01:20 AM	#11
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Rosie O'Donnell or Roseanne Barr?

01-24-2005, 01:32 AM	#13
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Who better den' Kanyon?

01-24-2005, 01:37 AM	#14
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Everybody

01-24-2005, 05:45 AM	#18
BigDawg H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Michigan	Hell I find it hard to put Brady in my top 10 with the likes of Super Joe, Marino, Elway, Foutes, Moon, Stabler, Farve, Young, Unitas. Ask me again in 2-3 years

01-24-2005, 05:48 AM	#19
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Stabler in your top 10 ? __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

01-24-2005, 02:00 PM	#21
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Rohan Davey

01-24-2005, 02:05 PM	#22
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	If New England wins, he'll be in the top 3 clutch QB's of all time. Frankly, the Montana comparison isn't absurd. __________________

01-24-2005, 02:06 PM	#23
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Right now Brady is way better. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-24-2005, 02:10 PM	#24
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	Montana.....hands up.

01-24-2005, 02:18 PM	#25
Cap Ologist College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flower Mound, TX	Until Tom Brady says "Hey look, there's John Candy. Let's drive 92 yards in 3:20 and win this thing", Joe Montana is better!

01-24-2005, 02:21 PM	#27
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PNW	For what it's worth. Montana! Hands Down. Bar None!... insert other cliche saying here. __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

01-24-2005, 02:29 PM	#28
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	Michael Vick. He's hall of fame material, ya know.

01-24-2005, 02:32 PM	#29
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	I say Brady. Montana has a much better roster around him, filled with Pro Bowlers, ect. in the then-free spending days. Brady has good players, but not even close to what Montana had.

01-24-2005, 02:35 PM	#30
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Montana is great. Brady is very good. How does Brady get great? By continuing what he's doing (not the pace, if he continued to win Super Bowls at a 2 out of 3, or 3 out of 4 rate the rest of his career, they wouldn't compare him to Montana, they'd compare him to the Pope.... more like remain a good QB, win some clutch games, etcetera) for another 5-10 years. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

01-24-2005, 02:41 PM	#31
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	Joe Brady is #1. http://www.nersc.gov/~deboni/Compute...ges/Brady.html

01-24-2005, 02:49 PM	#32
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I can't believe it hasn't been said yet, but neither of them could hold Dean Houston's jock. And both have tried. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-24-2005, 02:54 PM	#33
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	What about Marsha Brady?

01-24-2005, 03:41 PM	#35
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	If you preface it with, "at this point in his career," isn't it clearly Brady? It took Montana 8 seasons to get to his 3rd Super Bowl. Brady's completion percentage is comparable to Montana's and he's thrown for more touchdowns and yards at this point in his career. Obviously, that comparison isn't perfect because of the greater importance of the short passing game today and the fact that this year is the first year the Pats have had a real stud at RB, but still the numbers are as good or better than Montana's at this point and he's ahead of where Montana was in championship terms.

01-24-2005, 03:43 PM	#36
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Aikman

01-24-2005, 04:19 PM	#37
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Everyone knows Rick Mirer was the best quarterback to ever come out of Notre Dame. Therefore, it must be Brady. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

01-24-2005, 05:41 PM	#39
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	1) Montana, without hesitation nor doubt. 2) Mad props to TLK & Ragone for working in their earlier reference. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-24-2005, 08:36 PM	#46
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

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