The So-Called "Experts"

Grid Iron · 01-24-2005, 09:20 AM

I love these guys.

Two weeks ago, they're all saying the Colts will destroy the Pats. Wrong.

Yesterday, virtually everyone predicted the Steelers over the Pats, including three of the four pre-game announcers. Wrong.

Now, it seems everyone is picking the Eagles over the Pats, especially with "TO" coming back. Rod Woodson said the reason PHI will win is because "the Eagles are more hungry" to win championship than the Pats. Is he f'ing serious?

Maybe in two weeks Belichick will say something like this at the post-game press conference: "Well, I'm glad that we finally earned your respect. And all we had to do was win three Super Bowls in four years."

All this lack of respect for NE sure makes it easy for me to root for them.

Joe · 01-24-2005, 09:21 AM

experts are dumm

rkmsuf · 01-24-2005, 09:21 AM

I doubt everyone is picking the Eagles.

Bee · 01-24-2005, 09:22 AM

The Pats were favorites against the Steelers and are already 6 1/2 point favorites against the Eagles. Not really sure that can be considered a lack of respect...

cthomer5000 · 01-24-2005, 09:26 AM

you're full of shit.

ISiddiqui · 01-24-2005, 09:34 AM

Wait... who was picking the Steelers over the Pats? A few morons on CBS?! Everyone else was saying the Pats were going to win... big time!

Cringer · 01-24-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

you're full of shit.

I know I am, but not for long.....

Anyways I have heard plenty of people pick both team in every game so far this postseason. Between NFL Radio, ESPN, Sports Byline, FOX Sports, Sportingnews Radio, the TV guys, I believe the Pats are getting plenty of respect.

When I hear comments like the ones from Shannon Sharpe about renaming the Lombardi Trophy after Bellichick, and he is nothing but serious, then I have a hard time thinking the Pats are not respected....

Grid Iron · 01-24-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

The Pats were favorites against the Steelers and are already 6 1/2 point favorites against the Eagles. Not really sure that can be considered a lack of respect...

Whether a team is a favorite for betting purposes is very different than what the experts say. The line is a reflection of how fans are betting, not the "experts."

Samdari · 01-24-2005, 09:58 AM

Everyone I heard in the national media picked the Pats. Don't know where you got everyone picking the Steelers.

Bee · 01-24-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Grid Iron

Whether a team is a favorite for betting purposes is very different than what the experts say. The line is a reflection of how fans are betting, not the "experts."

So your experts are limited to a couple guys on CBS? Sorry dude, but you need a little more backup to make this bird fly...

scooper · 01-24-2005, 10:29 AM

Yeah, I heard many experts pick on both sides. Probably more picked the Pats. The "us against the world" mentality hardly applies when a team has won 2/3 superbowls and is on the verge of another one.

Huckleberry · 01-24-2005, 10:30 AM

Huh?

Almost everyone picked the Pats.

cuervo72 · 01-24-2005, 10:31 AM

Well, Berman and Jackson were calling the Pats an unbelieveable team and a dynasty, and that Brady could possibly be the best ever.

Doesn't sound like they are favoring the Eagles there...

Darkiller · 01-24-2005, 10:34 AM

Although the Pats are the favorites (how couldn't they be), I think the Eagles have a strong chance to beat them for a number or reasons :

- an experienced/matured team finally in the Superbowl after 4 straight NFC Championships.
- They are clearly hungry to win it all
- a QB who will do anything to win this thing.

I see the Pats winning the Superbowl ultimately but "experts" shouldn't talk like if they have already won this game...it could actually be much closer than what they think.

Joe · 01-24-2005, 10:38 AM

well, Michael Irvin was the only "expert" on ESPN countdown to pick the Eagles to beat the Falcons... so what do they know.

Cringer · 01-24-2005, 10:49 AM

By the way, do these guys even call themselves experts? I doubt it, and most of these guys would probably tell you that. I think we are the ones who always label them as experts, just because they are on TV or radio....

Grid Iron · 01-24-2005, 11:00 AM

Yikes! I guess my perception was different from reality.

After looking into it a little more, it seems like the Pats were favored.

Oh well, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong.

I think those three losers on CBS just pissed me off. Last time I consider them a reflection of how all Americans feel.

Maybe I'll have to root for the Eagles now. . .

EagleFan · 01-24-2005, 11:39 AM

If you want to gripe about these experts, try listening to them as an Eagles fan. First the Vikings were going to beat them, then they had no chance against Atlanta's running game. Not much respect for the team with the best record in the conference, a team that destroyed the other teams in the confernce in games that mattered.

Oh well, that's in the past and I'm still smiling.

Leonidas · 01-24-2005, 12:36 PM

I don't recall that many folks picking the Colts to win and don't recall anyone picking Pittsburgh yesterday. Not sure what "experts" you're listening to. Is that chip on your Patriot clad shoulder getting kind of heavy lately? Not sure New England really needs to, or really can play the disrespected card.

Grid Iron · 01-24-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

I don't recall that many folks picking the Colts to win and don't recall anyone picking Pittsburgh yesterday. Not sure what "experts" you're listening to. Is that chip on your Patriot clad shoulder getting kind of heavy lately? Not sure New England really needs to, or really can play the disrespected card.

OK, dude, no fair calling me out after I already admitted I was wrong. That's just rubbing it in.

Bee · 01-24-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

If you want to gripe about these experts, try listening to them as an Eagles fan. First the Vikings were going to beat them, then they had no chance against Atlanta's running game. Not much respect for the team with the best record in the conference, a team that destroyed the other teams in the confernce in games that mattered.

Oh well, that's in the past and I'm still smiling.

Actually, everything I heard had the Eagles winning both games. From everything I've heard, most people agree that the two best teams are in the SuperBowl.

sabotai · 01-24-2005, 05:21 PM

What Bee said. There were some people saying the Vikings because of the assumed rust effect (they forgot that the Viking's defense suck donkey balls), but I'd say it was a good 4 out of 5 going for the Eagles against Atlanta.

It kind of makes me laugh, and gets annoying quick, when people seem to try to be the underdog "we get no respect" side. Give me a break. There were people picking the Eagles to go to the Super Bowl from the beginning of the season. They get no respect? Suuuuuuure.

Desnudo · 01-24-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

I don't recall that many folks picking the Colts to win and don't recall anyone picking Pittsburgh yesterday. Not sure what "experts" you're listening to. Is that chip on your Patriot clad shoulder getting kind of heavy lately? Not sure New England really needs to, or really can play the disrespected card.

Almost everyone picked the Colts to win. 7 out 8 on ESPN.com. The lone exception being Bill Simmons. From what I can remember: everyone on the ESPN pre-grame shows, everyone on NFL on HBO, seemingly 3 out 4 on every network pre-grame. The Prime Minister of Canada. Even the line moved to show that Colts were getting heavy money from the betting public. I think this is the last year that will happen though.

I actually prefer it when the Patriots get tabbed as the probable loser like that though since it obviously motivates them and makes me less nervous.

ISiddiqui · 01-24-2005, 11:44 PM

Can I write a post about the Falcons getting no respect in the game against the Rams? Everyone else is doing it

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EagleFan · 01-25-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

What Bee said. There were some people saying the Vikings because of the assumed rust effect (they forgot that the Viking's defense suck donkey balls), but I'd say it was a good 4 out of 5 going for the Eagles against Atlanta.

It kind of makes me laugh, and gets annoying quick, when people seem to try to be the underdog "we get no respect" side. Give me a break. There were people picking the Eagles to go to the Super Bowl from the beginning of the season. They get no respect? Suuuuuuure.

Only one of the announcers on the ESPN picked the Eagles over the Falcons. They all predicted that the Falcons' Hall of Famers Vick and Dunn would be too much for the Eagles to handle.

ISiddiqui · 01-25-2005, 12:46 PM

LOL! And a panel which include Michael Irvin and Steve Young is akin all football 'experts'... heheh

Desnudo · 01-25-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Only one of the announcers on the ESPN picked the Eagles over the Falcons. They all predicted that the Falcons' Hall of Famers Vick and Dunn would be too much for the Eagles to handle.

I looked at the prediction sheet on ESPN - 5-2, Eagles over Falcons. 5-3 Patriots over Steelers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=1970658

NFL-HBO 3/4 had the Iggles, 2/4 Pats.

ISiddiqui · 01-25-2005, 08:29 PM

Damn... that's good work, Des

. Though I still think that calling the ESPN (or HBO) crews experts is streaching things.

Though I think he's probably refering to the NFL Countdown guys: Berman, Young, Irvin, and Jackson. If not, then I got no clue what he's talking about.

Maple Leafs · 01-28-2005, 02:43 PM

hxxp://www.sportspickle.com/features/volume4/2005-0126-patriots.html

rkmsuf · 01-28-2005, 02:46 PM

I'm not clicking on anything with "sportspickle" in it.

01-24-2005, 09:21 AM	#3
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I doubt everyone is picking the Eagles. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-24-2005, 09:34 AM	#6
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wait... who was picking the Steelers over the Pats? A few morons on CBS?! Everyone else was saying the Pats were going to win... big time! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-24-2005, 09:58 AM	#9
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	Everyone I heard in the national media picked the Pats. Don't know where you got everyone picking the Steelers. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

01-24-2005, 10:30 AM	#12
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Huh? Almost everyone picked the Pats. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

01-24-2005, 10:31 AM	#13
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Well, Berman and Jackson were calling the Pats an unbelieveable team and a dynasty, and that Brady could possibly be the best ever. Doesn't sound like they are favoring the Eagles there... __________________ null

01-24-2005, 09:21 AM	#2
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	experts are dumm

01-24-2005, 09:22 AM	#4
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	The Pats were favorites against the Steelers and are already 6 1/2 point favorites against the Eagles. Not really sure that can be considered a lack of respect...

01-24-2005, 10:29 AM	#11
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Yeah, I heard many experts pick on both sides. Probably more picked the Pats. The "us against the world" mentality hardly applies when a team has won 2/3 superbowls and is on the verge of another one.

01-24-2005, 10:34 AM	#14
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Although the Pats are the favorites (how couldn't they be), I think the Eagles have a strong chance to beat them for a number or reasons : - an experienced/matured team finally in the Superbowl after 4 straight NFC Championships. - They are clearly hungry to win it all - a QB who will do anything to win this thing. I see the Pats winning the Superbowl ultimately but "experts" shouldn't talk like if they have already won this game...it could actually be much closer than what they think. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

01-24-2005, 10:38 AM	#15
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	well, Michael Irvin was the only "expert" on ESPN countdown to pick the Eagles to beat the Falcons... so what do they know.

01-24-2005, 10:49 AM	#16
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	By the way, do these guys even call themselves experts? I doubt it, and most of these guys would probably tell you that. I think we are the ones who always label them as experts, just because they are on TV or radio.... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

01-24-2005, 11:00 AM	#17
Grid Iron Ice Cream Man Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bay Area	Yikes! I guess my perception was different from reality. After looking into it a little more, it seems like the Pats were favored. Oh well, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong. I think those three losers on CBS just pissed me off. Last time I consider them a reflection of how all Americans feel. Maybe I'll have to root for the Eagles now. . . __________________ Follow the story of the Oregon Ice of the Continental Football League.

01-24-2005, 11:39 AM	#18
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	If you want to gripe about these experts, try listening to them as an Eagles fan. First the Vikings were going to beat them, then they had no chance against Atlanta's running game. Not much respect for the team with the best record in the conference, a team that destroyed the other teams in the confernce in games that mattered. Oh well, that's in the past and I'm still smiling.

01-24-2005, 12:36 PM	#19
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	I don't recall that many folks picking the Colts to win and don't recall anyone picking Pittsburgh yesterday. Not sure what "experts" you're listening to. Is that chip on your Patriot clad shoulder getting kind of heavy lately? Not sure New England really needs to, or really can play the disrespected card. __________________ Molon labe

01-24-2005, 05:21 PM	#22
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	What Bee said. There were some people saying the Vikings because of the assumed rust effect (they forgot that the Viking's defense suck donkey balls), but I'd say it was a good 4 out of 5 going for the Eagles against Atlanta. It kind of makes me laugh, and gets annoying quick, when people seem to try to be the underdog "we get no respect" side. Give me a break. There were people picking the Eagles to go to the Super Bowl from the beginning of the season. They get no respect? Suuuuuuure. Last edited by sabotai : 01-24-2005 at 05:21 PM.

01-24-2005, 11:44 PM	#24
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Can I write a post about the Falcons getting no respect in the game against the Rams? Everyone else is doing it . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-25-2005, 12:46 PM	#26
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	LOL! And a panel which include Michael Irvin and Steve Young is akin all football 'experts'... heheh __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-25-2005, 08:29 PM	#28
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Damn... that's good work, Des . Though I still think that calling the ESPN (or HBO) crews experts is streaching things. Though I think he's probably refering to the NFL Countdown guys: Berman, Young, Irvin, and Jackson. If not, then I got no clue what he's talking about. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-28-2005, 02:43 PM	#29
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	hxxp://www.sportspickle.com/features/volume4/2005-0126-patriots.html __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-28-2005, 02:46 PM	#30
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I'm not clicking on anything with "sportspickle" in it. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

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