OT: Settle a bet...for a steak dinner

Hurst2112 · 08-18-2005, 01:09 AM

Ok,

My wife and I like to bet steak dinners for various things. I am up on the food by 1 meal (friend's escapades with boyfriends...long story).

Anyway, I was wondering if anybody knew the proper term for the following:

My wife says that the USA does not have a formal name. I said that the name is "The United States of America". She said no because provinces are states. She mentioned that Canada and Mexico (whom both have provinces) are united and consider themselves "united states". I laughed and made the steak dinner bet.

Who is right? I understand that America is describing a region. It IS unusual that Canada and Mexico are names of countries and then there is the US of A. Strange, but I think I am right.

Swaggs · 08-18-2005, 01:16 AM

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article...d%20States&ct=

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officially United States of America

Peregrine · 08-18-2005, 01:29 AM

You are right.

Hurst2112 · 08-18-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

You are right.

Yeah, i figured I was but try telling that to the Mrs....

thanks

Peregrine · 08-18-2005, 01:41 AM

If she wants more details, you can tell her that yes, Canada has states, but at the time the U.S was being formed, Canada barely existed, and not in an organized form of provinces. We took on the name United States of America in the Articles of Confederation in 1777, which was the precursor to the Constitution.

Alf · 08-18-2005, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

I said that the name is "The United States of America"

Seems both of you lost , since the name is "United States of America" not "The United States of America"

Ragone · 08-18-2005, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

If she wants more details, you can tell her that yes, Canada has states, but at the time the U.S was being formed, Canada barely existed, and not in an organized form of provinces. We took on the name United States of America in the Articles of Confederation in 1777, which was the precursor to the Constitution.

actually i'm pretty sure canada calls them provinces.. not states :P

Peregrine · 08-18-2005, 03:40 AM

Yeah that's what they call their states.

Raiders Army · 08-18-2005, 05:53 AM

You're right. Puerto Rico doesn't count either.

gottimd · 08-18-2005, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Seems both of you lost , since the name is "United States of America" not "The United States of America"

Kind of like Prom and "the Prom"?

JeeberD · 08-18-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

She mentioned that Canada and Mexico (whom both have provinces) are united and consider themselves "united states". I laughed and made the steak dinner bet.

I swear I've heard Los Estados Unidos de Mexico before...

Draft Dodger · 08-18-2005, 10:05 AM

get extra food by telling her that Canada is the Dominion of Canada

Karlifornia · 08-18-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Kind of like Prom and "the Prom"?

No, no. Actually, it's more like McRib and "The McRib".

Is McRib back yet?

Is the McRib back yet?

sabotai · 08-18-2005, 03:06 PM

According to the link provided, Mexico is officially "United Mexican States". I guess Canada is simply Canada since it doesn't say anything for it.

ISiddiqui · 08-18-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I swear I've heard Los Estados Unidos de Mexico before...

Mexico's official name is the United Mexican States, or Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

stevew · 08-18-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Kind of like Prom and "the Prom"?

Man, you just made my head hurt.

timmynausea · 08-18-2005, 03:58 PM

It is officially The Ohio State University, though, right? You might be able to stump her with that one, too.

Surtt · 08-18-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

get extra food by telling her that Canada is the Dominion of Canada

Is Canada "officially" independent?

I thought it was part of the British Commonwealth and has the queen as its ruler.

wishbone · 08-18-2005, 05:23 PM

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Samdari · 08-18-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I swear I've heard Los Estados Unidos de Mexico before...

I believe that refers to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California

cougarfreak · 08-18-2005, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Surtt

Is Canada "officially" independent?

I thought it was part of the British Commonwealth and has the queen as its ruler.

Canada was granted independence in 1931.

08-18-2005, 10:05 AM	#12
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	get extra food by telling her that Canada is the Dominion of Canada __________________ Mile High Hockey

08-18-2005, 01:29 AM	#3
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	You are right.

08-18-2005, 01:41 AM	#5
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	If she wants more details, you can tell her that yes, Canada has states, but at the time the U.S was being formed, Canada barely existed, and not in an organized form of provinces. We took on the name United States of America in the Articles of Confederation in 1777, which was the precursor to the Constitution.

08-18-2005, 03:40 AM	#8
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Yeah that's what they call their states.

08-18-2005, 05:53 AM	#9
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	You're right. Puerto Rico doesn't count either.

08-18-2005, 03:06 PM	#14
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	According to the link provided, Mexico is officially "United Mexican States". I guess Canada is simply Canada since it doesn't say anything for it.

08-18-2005, 03:58 PM	#17
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	It is officially The Ohio State University, though, right? You might be able to stump her with that one, too.

08-18-2005, 05:23 PM	#19
wishbone High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hillsboro OR	We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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