Soccer: USA vs. Japan

kingfc22 · 02-10-2006, 03:47 PM

The game is 8 PM PST tonight in San Francisco. And I am going!!!

This will be the first time I have attended a US men's national team game. I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-10-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

The game is 8 PM PST tonight in San Francisco. And I am going!!!

This will be the first time I have attended a US mens national team game. I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.

I'm so very jealous.

Enjoy the game.

TazFTW · 02-10-2006, 04:04 PM

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I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.

Nope. Here's the roster for the game.

Goalkeepers (3): Kevin Hartman (Los Angeles Galaxy), Matt Reis (New England Revolution), Zach Wells (Houston 1836)

Defenders (5): Bobby Boswell (D.C. United), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City Wizards), Todd Dunivant (Los Angeles Galaxy), Heath Pearce (FC Nordsjælland), Eddie Pope (Real Salt Lake)

Midfielders (6): Brian Carroll (D.C. United), Clint Dempsey (New England Revolution), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Chris Klein (Real Salt Lake), Ben Olsen (D.C. United), Kerry Zavagnin (Kansas City Wizards)

Forwards (6): Brian Ching (Houston 1836), Eddie Johnson (FC Dallas), Pat Noonan (New England Revolution), Chris Rolfe (Chicago Fire), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution), Josh Wolff (Kansas City Wizards)

ice4277 · 02-10-2006, 05:50 PM

Have a good time. I had the opportunity to go to US/England last year and it was a lot of fun.

Desnudo · 02-10-2006, 06:21 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Eddie Johnson back in action.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 08:25 PM

It's not TOO bad of a lineup, with one maybe defender on the WC roster (Pope), two definite middies (Donovan & Dempsey), two borderlines (Klein & Zavs), and potentially 4 forwards (Rolfe, Twellman, Wolff, Johnson).

I'd love to see Rolfe play w/ Johnson for at least 60 minutes tonight.

Sublime 2 · 02-10-2006, 09:30 PM

I hope Twellman made his case in the last friendly to keep around for Germany, I like the way he works hard and of course he's a New England boy.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:10 PM

3-6-1 for Japan?? that's a new look. should provide a nice challenge for these USA midfielders/defenders

MikeVick7 · 02-10-2006, 10:11 PM

Well I've found my new Hattrick formation, the 3-6-1. Say what?

TazFTW · 02-10-2006, 10:11 PM

Japan is playing a 3-6-1. Interesting.

US starting 11

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:27 PM

Early thoughts (20 mins gone)...

Klein: Terrible
Donovan: Very good
Wolff: Better than usual
Conrad: Don't trust him with the ball
Pope: Not very good

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:29 PM

klein=not consistent enough with his passes
wolff=always a step behind, or just barely failing to keep control
donovan=spot on

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:31 PM

dola

impressive possession spell by USA though.

haha. beautiful knockdown header by Twellman. and a goal for Pope!

MikeVick7 · 02-10-2006, 10:31 PM

More thoughts...Japan's wore themselves out with their pressing defense about 13 minutes in.

TazFTW · 02-10-2006, 10:34 PM

The 3-6-1 is arse.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:34 PM

That was a heck of a play by Twellman. When Dunivant hit that ball I thought for sure the keeper would be all over it.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:35 PM

Lando + Confidence = wow

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:35 PM

yeah i don't think japan has the defensive talent to play the 3-6-1 successfully. or the midfield defensive talent even

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:38 PM

What's interesting (and encouraging?) about this game is that Japan is a very similar team to us. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, yadda yadda.

And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:38 PM

nice D by noonan there, coming back to cut that off.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:40 PM

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And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do.

i'm not THAT familiar with Japan's players, but they aren't playing any of their overseas players in this match, and they have at least as many overseas players that start for the national team as we do. so I don't know how much more of an A-team this is for them. but like i said, i'm far from an expert.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm not THAT familiar with Japan's players, but they aren't playing any of their overseas players in this match, and they have at least as many overseas players that start for the national team as we do. so I don't know how much more of an A-team this is for them. but like i said, i'm far from an expert.

I thought they had fewer overseas guys than we do?

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:43 PM

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I thought they had fewer overseas guys than we do?

well that was totally an educated guess by me. but the announcers did say they had "plenty" earlier.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:45 PM

What a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

TazFTW · 02-10-2006, 10:45 PM

That was sweet.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:46 PM

Twellman >= McBride ???

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:48 PM

at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while.

but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride.

the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too early

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 10:49 PM

dola. that goal was beautiful though. laid off so well by twellman

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 10:51 PM

The three guys I'd love to see get a lot of time:

Johnson, Rolfe, and Pearce

ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 10:56 PM

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at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while.

but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride.

the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too early

Also remember that McBride is tied for 8th in the EPL in goal scoring (though lower when you count cup games), and only 1 goal in the Prem behind Rooney.

I think it is way too easy to count Twellman as better than McBride from a couple meaningless friendlies.

Mr. Wednesday · 02-10-2006, 10:57 PM

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Twellman >= McBride ???

I don't think so, personally -- McBride has been lighting up the EPL this season with Fulham. Either one of Twellman's assists is certainly in Brian's repertoire.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 11:01 PM

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Also remember that McBride is tied for 8th in the EPL in goal scoring (though lower when you count cup games), and only 1 goal in the Prem behind Rooney.

I think it is way too easy to count Twellman as better than McBride from a couple meaningless friendlies.

exactly. i didn't know that mcbride was tied for 8th in the EPL. but the point is very true, it's easy to say that about twellman right now as the "flavor of the month" especially as we havn't seen mcbride in a USA jersey in a while now. but mcbride definately has the track record.

ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 11:13 PM

Goal.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 11:14 PM

TWELLLLMANNNNNN

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 11:15 PM

I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 11:15 PM

gah. why does balboa want wolff in germany? wolff is no good! grrr

ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June.

I have a feeling that Italy, Czech Republic, and Ghana are going to be a good deal better than Japan... and won't be playing a 3-6-1

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ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

gah. why does balboa want wolff in germany? wolff is no good! grrr

Then who's the 4th forward? Not like the 4th forward is really going to see much playing time anyway though.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 11:19 PM

I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere.

But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager.

MikeVick7 · 02-10-2006, 11:19 PM

So is Landon Donovan's last name really pronounced Done-ovan?

This play-by-play guy insists on pronouncing it that way.

Havok · 02-10-2006, 11:20 PM

Of course im most impressed with Twellman.... i hope he continues to improve.

Also, Lando is just such a stud. Dam fun watching him create chance after chance and his passes/Free Kicks are so freaking accurate.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVick7

So is Landon Donovan's last name really pronounced Done-ovan?

This play-by-play guy insists on pronouncing it that way.

That's the left-back, Done-i-vint. (Dunivant)

Donovan is Don-uh-vinn, or as I prefer, Don-oh-vinn.

ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere.

But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager.

I've always wondered why anyone bothered questioning Arena in the first place. What? You want to back to Sampson?

MikeVick7 · 02-10-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

That's the left-back, Done-i-vint. (Dunivant)

Donovan is Don-uh-vinn, or as I prefer, Don-oh-vinn.

Ahhh...my bad. I'm not familiar with the other dude.

DaddyTorgo · 02-10-2006, 11:22 PM

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Then who's the 4th forward? Not like the 4th forward is really going to see much playing time anyway though.

well if that's the case why not give it to Rossi? (sarcasm). or shit...adu (less sarcasm but not serious).

you're right...the 4th forward isn't going to see much if any playing time, but you might as well make it a productive spot.

then again...In Bruce We Trust

Havok · 02-10-2006, 11:23 PM

Eddie Johnson in the game now... if he can stay healthy i see no reason why he shouldn't be playing somewhere in Europe.

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 11:23 PM

After a slow start, Noonan has realy found a groove up and down that left flank tonight.

ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 11:24 PM

BAD! BAD DEFENSE! BAD!

RPI-Fan · 02-10-2006, 11:25 PM

Klein pretty much wore out his (albeit slim) WC chances tonight. Worst performance by a U.S. player this calander year, IMO.

ISiddiqui · 02-10-2006, 11:26 PM

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well if that's the case why not give it to Rossi? (sarcasm). or shit...adu (less sarcasm but not serious).

you're right...the 4th forward isn't going to see much if any playing time, but you might as well make it a productive spot.

then again...In Bruce We Trust

I think Adu needs to learn some humility, IMO. He's a great talent, but sometimes he just seems to drift out of games. Let him know that we expect a full 90 minutes from him.

And I'd rather have Wolff than Ching, I think.

02-10-2006, 08:25 PM	#6
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	It's not TOO bad of a lineup, with one maybe defender on the WC roster (Pope), two definite middies (Donovan & Dempsey), two borderlines (Klein & Zavs), and potentially 4 forwards (Rolfe, Twellman, Wolff, Johnson). I'd love to see Rolfe play w/ Johnson for at least 60 minutes tonight. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 10:11 PM	#9
MikeVick7 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ron, Mexico	Well I've found my new Hattrick formation, the 3-6-1. Say what? __________________ Hattrick - Seattle Reign (224367)

02-10-2006, 10:11 PM	#10
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Japan is playing a 3-6-1. Interesting. US starting 11 __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee. Last edited by TazFTW : 02-10-2006 at 10:24 PM.

02-10-2006, 10:27 PM	#11
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Early thoughts (20 mins gone)... Klein: Terrible Donovan: Very good Wolff: Better than usual Conrad: Don't trust him with the ball Pope: Not very good __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 10:31 PM	#14
MikeVick7 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ron, Mexico	More thoughts...Japan's wore themselves out with their pressing defense about 13 minutes in. __________________ Hattrick - Seattle Reign (224367)

02-10-2006, 05:50 PM	#4
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Have a good time. I had the opportunity to go to US/England last year and it was a lot of fun.

02-10-2006, 06:21 PM	#5
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I'm looking forward to seeing Eddie Johnson back in action.

02-10-2006, 09:30 PM	#7
Sublime 2 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Hampshire	I hope Twellman made his case in the last friendly to keep around for Germany, I like the way he works hard and of course he's a New England boy.

02-10-2006, 10:10 PM	#8
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	3-6-1 for Japan?? that's a new look. should provide a nice challenge for these USA midfielders/defenders

02-10-2006, 10:29 PM	#12
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	klein=not consistent enough with his passes wolff=always a step behind, or just barely failing to keep control donovan=spot on

02-10-2006, 10:34 PM	#15
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The 3-6-1 is arse. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

02-10-2006, 10:35 PM	#17
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Lando + Confidence = wow __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 10:38 PM	#19
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	What's interesting (and encouraging?) about this game is that Japan is a very similar team to us. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, yadda yadda. And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 10:45 PM	#24
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	What a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 10:45 PM	#25
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	That was sweet. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

02-10-2006, 10:46 PM	#26
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Twellman >= McBride ??? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 10:48 PM	#27
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while. but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride. the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too early

02-10-2006, 10:49 PM	#28
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	dola. that goal was beautiful though. laid off so well by twellman

02-10-2006, 10:51 PM	#29
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	The three guys I'd love to see get a lot of time: Johnson, Rolfe, and Pearce __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 11:13 PM	#33
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Goal. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-10-2006, 11:14 PM	#34
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	TWELLLLMANNNNNN

02-10-2006, 11:15 PM	#35
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 11:19 PM	#39
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere. But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

02-10-2006, 11:20 PM	#41
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	Of course im most impressed with Twellman.... i hope he continues to improve. Also, Lando is just such a stud. Dam fun watching him create chance after chance and his passes/Free Kicks are so freaking accurate. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

02-10-2006, 11:23 PM	#46
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	Eddie Johnson in the game now... if he can stay healthy i see no reason why he shouldn't be playing somewhere in Europe. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

02-10-2006, 11:24 PM	#48
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	BAD! BAD DEFENSE! BAD! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-10-2006, 11:25 PM	#49
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Klein pretty much wore out his (albeit slim) WC chances tonight. Worst performance by a U.S. player this calander year, IMO. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

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