NBA: Kobe hits 50 for the third game in a row

DeToxRox · 03-22-2007, 09:24 PM

Four minutes left in the fourth (albeit vs Memphis) and Kobe has 55.

Yes people hate him but this is pretty fucking impressive even considering he's done it vs Milwaukee, Portland and Memphis.

When he is in the zone there is no one better.

cmp · 03-22-2007, 09:32 PM

Very impressive. No one can deny how good he is.

Logan · 03-22-2007, 09:32 PM

Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?

cmp · 03-22-2007, 09:40 PM

Ends up with 60. So thats a 65 point game, then 50 and now 60.

Easy Mac · 03-22-2007, 09:45 PM

That's probably raised his ppg by 1.5 points in the past 3 days.

MrBug708 · 03-22-2007, 09:52 PM

*sigh*

Now if the Lakers could only get better players

Karlifornia · 03-23-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

When he is in the zone there is no one better.

QFT

primelord · 03-23-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?

No

DeToxRox · 03-23-2007, 12:49 AM

Iverson had back to back 50 point games.

primelord · 03-23-2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Iverson had back to back 50 point games.

Not in his rookie year he didn't

sabotai · 03-23-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?

Not 50+, 40+.

4/7/97, 44pt vs Chi
4/9/97, 40pt vs Atl
4/11/97, 44 vs Mil
4/12/97, 50 vs. Cle
4/14/97, 40 vs. Wsh

MrBug708 · 03-23-2007, 01:38 AM

Vince · 03-23-2007, 02:16 AM

That picture is freaking awesome.

Ragone · 03-23-2007, 03:09 AM

You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

Karlifornia · 03-23-2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

Kobe's taking the team on his shoulders. Would you rather have Kobe going to the rim contested, or passing it off to Kwame Brown for a 10 footer? I'll take Kobe making the shot or getting fouled.

Vince · 03-23-2007, 03:29 AM

For a second I read that as 'uncontested,' and I was about to say "Um...Karl?"

Then I realized I just need to go to sleep.

molson · 03-23-2007, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

Ya, he should share the ball more with his less talented teammates so their feelings won't be hurt.

I understand the "ball hog" angle in a 5th grade YMCA league, but no so much here.

Subby · 03-23-2007, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

Yeah pass when you are two feet from the fucking basket.

GOOD OBSERVATION COACH WOODEN.

wade moore · 03-23-2007, 07:37 AM

The Kobe Haters amuse me...

You should pass the ball to the two dumb-dumbs that are only wide open because you're in the air about to MAKE A BASKET.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-23-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

The Kobe Haters amuse me...

I can only assume that those of us who hate Kobe but couldn't care less whether he passes the ball in that situation (or any other) are not as consistent a source of amusement for you

wade moore · 03-23-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I can only assume that those of us who hate Kobe but couldn't care less whether he passes the ball in that situation (or any other) are not as consistent a source of amusement for you

Well.. I should say.. The Kobe Haters that make up reasons to hate him amuse me...

There are legitimate reasons to hate on Kobe, why grasp for things that aren't there?

Julio Riddols · 03-23-2007, 08:12 AM

I don't like him so much as a person, but Kobe is a hell of a player, in my mind the closest thing to a Jordan in the league today.. If he had a Pippen to run with, there wouldn't be so much of a need for him to put the team on his back like this.. But I think with all great players, there comes a time when they just say "To hell with it, I'm gonna will this team to win, because I'm the only one who can." And the thing that makes him great is that when he does this, he does it. He doesn't often choke when the pressure is on.

Logan · 03-23-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Not 50+, 40+.

4/7/97, 44pt vs Chi
4/9/97, 40pt vs Atl
4/11/97, 44 vs Mil
4/12/97, 50 vs. Cle
4/14/97, 40 vs. Wsh

My mistake...thanks.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-23-2007, 08:35 AM

I don't like Kobe, but I think he has raised his game this year to its most impressive level, flailing arms notwithstanding.

BrianD · 03-23-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I don't like him so much as a person, but Kobe is a hell of a player, in my mind the closest thing to a Jordan in the league today.. If he had a Pippen to run with, there wouldn't be so much of a need for him to put the team on his back like this.. But I think with all great players, there comes a time when they just say "To hell with it, I'm gonna will this team to win, because I'm the only one who can." And the thing that makes him great is that when he does this, he does it. He doesn't often choke when the pressure is on.

Though when he had Shaq on his team, he still put the team on his back. Kobe is an amazing talent though.

Chief Rum · 03-23-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

You know what I notice? Some guys can't win for trying. And some people will despise others no matter what they see and hear.

BTW, a couple things I see in the picture. Kobe is open, too. And about a foot from the basket. With no one with a chance to reach him before he scores. And the reason there is a crowd behind him (and the players open) is because of something called help defense (although I don't think coaches will be showing this picture in any how-tos).

Chubby · 03-23-2007, 03:08 PM

Good job Kobe, your lakers are now only 16 games out of 1st!

Karlifornia · 03-23-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Good job Kobe, your lakers are now only 16 games out of 1st!

Oy...Is Kobe the NBA's version of Tom Brady on this board, or what?

Chubby · 03-23-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Oy...Is Kobe the NBA's version of Tom Brady on this board, or what?

Kobe can't win squat without Shaq.

Hell, this is Kobe's wet dream. He wanted to be "the man", well now he is except he won't be getting any more rings.

st.cronin · 03-23-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Oy...Is Kobe the NBA's version of Tom Brady on this board, or what?

You're thinking of Steve Nash.

Atocep · 03-23-2007, 08:59 PM

44 going into the 4th quarter tonight.

kingfc22 · 03-23-2007, 09:23 PM

Kobe just hit 50...

stevew · 03-23-2007, 09:32 PM

Woot, way to pile on teams out of playoff contention baby! Good scoring feat though.....It wouldn't suprise me to see him go for 50 4 more games in a row, and the teams the Lakers play either suck or don't play defense.

LloydLungs · 03-23-2007, 09:33 PM

The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.

stevew · 03-23-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs

The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.

Eh, i meant on the cusp of playoff contention. Regardless if a team is 6-8 games under .500, they really won't do crap in the playoffs anyways.

stevew · 03-23-2007, 09:38 PM

eh, didn't notice houston on there at first.... Will be interesting to see what he does there, as he should easily drop 50 on the griz and warriors if he wants too.

JeeberD · 03-23-2007, 11:26 PM

No way JVG lets him get 50 on us...

DeToxRox · 03-24-2007, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Eh, i meant on the cusp of playoff contention. Regardless if a team is 6-8 games under .500, they really won't do crap in the playoffs anyways.

Why are you bringing up Bron in a Kobe thread?

sterlingice · 03-24-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LloydLungs

The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.

I do like the phrase "Dallas' sacrificial play toy". Fun use of the language

SI

Neon_Chaos · 03-24-2007, 12:05 PM

That is just insane. Regardless if the opposing team is in playoff contention or not, for him to score 50 points in four consecutive games... that's just ridiculous.

What makes it more special is that it's Kobe's teammates who are actually giving him the opportunity to score all those points. Lamar Odom and Luke Walton are giving him great passes, and Phil Jackson is really just letting Kobe take over (which, after the near-collapse of the Lakers after the all-star break, is a no-brainer)

And it's not like Kobe's forcing the shots (ala 76ers era Iverson)... his FG% these past four games is simply an indication that he IS getting great looks on the court, either due to his skill or due to his teammate's just finding ways to give him the ball (I sincerely doubt any opposing NBA Team/Player/Coach would willingly give Kobe the chance to drop 50 on them... playoff contender or not)

Mar. 16 vs Por - 65 points, 59% fg shooting, 66.7% 3pt
Mar. 18 vs Min - 50 points, 48.8% fg shooting, 44.4% 3pt
Mar. 22 vs Mem - 60 points, 54.1% fg shooting, 42.9% 3pt
Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 50 points, 55.2% fg shooting, 40% 3pt

In four games: 225 points, 76/140 fg (54.3%), 17/33 3pt (51.5%), 56/60 ft (93.3%), 6.25 rpg, 2.75 apg, 2 topg.

The guy even has the time to dish out 2.75 assists a game... AND keep a respectable ATO ratio for his position (and the number of times he gets possesion of the ball)...

edit, added:

Odom is playing great as well, and Walton (since coming back) has just had one job to do... get the ball to Kobe.

Odom's numbers the last four games:

Mar. 16 vs Por - 15 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 50% fg
Mar. 18 vs Min - 16 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 58.3% fg
Mar. 22 vs Mem - 20 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists, 66.7% fg
Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 66.7 fg

Walton's numbers:

Mar. 18 vs Min - 10 points, 8 rebounds, 11 assists, 44% fg
Mar. 22 vs Mem - 11 points, 2 rebounds, 4 assists, 57.1% fg
Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 13 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 30% fg

That's just insane.

Chubby · 03-24-2007, 12:18 PM

you'd think if he's going to ballhog he'd at least go for Zero assists instead of getting a huge 1.

DeToxRox · 03-24-2007, 01:03 PM

Sounds like Chubby has a namesake for Kobe.

Fouts · 03-24-2007, 04:04 PM

I don't understand the hate. It is about winning basketball games. The Lakers lost 7 straight games, Kobe decides to score more and now they've won 4 straight. If Kobe scoring 50+ per game = win, then I'm all for it.

Chubby · 03-24-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I don't understand the hate. It is about winning basketball games. The Lakers lost 7 straight games, Kobe decides to score more and now they've won 4 straight. If Kobe scoring 50+ per game = win, then I'm all for it.

Me thinks that has more to do with the competition than Kobe dropping 50 each game.

Chief Rum · 03-25-2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Me thinks that has more to do with the competition than Kobe dropping 50 each game.

Yup, you got it figured. I mean, Kobe was fortunate to play the four worst teams in NBA history in a row, so he could score his 50. Oh what they're not the four worst ever? Don't they have to be? If they're actually like other normal bad NBA teams, wouldn't someone else besides Wilt Chamberlain have done this in over 60 years?

So they're the worst ever, then, right? I mean, no one would have the gall to see that Kobe is good or nothing, would they?

Chubby · 03-25-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Yup, you got it figured. I mean, Kobe was fortunate to play the four worst teams in NBA history in a row, so he could score his 50. Oh what they're not the four worst ever? Don't they have to be? If they're actually like other normal bad NBA teams, wouldn't someone else besides Wilt Chamberlain have done this in over 60 years?

So they're the worst ever, then, right? I mean, no one would have the gall to see that Kobe is good or nothing, would they?

Wow, Kobe is god. He's better than Jordan. He's so good he'll carry the team to a title by himself. He doesn't need Shaq, he's Kobe!

Hahaha, pass the koolaid.

Danny · 03-25-2007, 06:06 AM

Why are you guys wasting your time debating this guy?

Neuqua · 03-25-2007, 11:31 AM

I am not, have never been, nor will ever be a fan of Kobe. But the show he is putting on now is absolutely remarkable and as long as his team is still winning, he should be commended for putting the team on his back.

:: runs to take a shower ::

molson · 03-25-2007, 12:22 PM

On the offensive side of the ball, Jordan V. Kobe is a very reasonable debate. (Jordan obviously still far better all around)

Chief Rum · 03-25-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Wow, Kobe is god. He's better than Jordan. He's so good he'll carry the team to a title by himself. He doesn't need Shaq, he's Kobe!

Hahaha, pass the koolaid.

Umm, reading comprehension. You're the one who said it was all the competition, wiseguy. Think before you respond. The only ridiculous statements being made here (Kobe had nothing to do with his streak) are by you.

03-23-2007, 02:16 AM	#13
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	That picture is freaking awesome. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

03-23-2007, 03:29 AM	#16
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	For a second I read that as 'uncontested,' and I was about to say "Um...Karl?" Then I realized I just need to go to sleep. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

03-23-2007, 08:12 AM	#22
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I don't like him so much as a person, but Kobe is a hell of a player, in my mind the closest thing to a Jordan in the league today.. If he had a Pippen to run with, there wouldn't be so much of a need for him to put the team on his back like this.. But I think with all great players, there comes a time when they just say "To hell with it, I'm gonna will this team to win, because I'm the only one who can." And the thing that makes him great is that when he does this, he does it. He doesn't often choke when the pressure is on. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

03-23-2007, 08:35 AM	#24
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I don't like Kobe, but I think he has raised his game this year to its most impressive level, flailing arms notwithstanding. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-23-2007, 09:23 PM	#32
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Kobe just hit 50... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-22-2007, 09:32 PM	#2
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Very impressive. No one can deny how good he is.

03-22-2007, 09:32 PM	#3
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Didn't Iverson run off a bunch of 50+ games towards the end of his rookie year?

03-22-2007, 09:40 PM	#4
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Ends up with 60. So thats a 65 point game, then 50 and now 60.

03-22-2007, 09:45 PM	#5
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	That's probably raised his ppg by 1.5 points in the past 3 days.

03-22-2007, 09:52 PM	#6
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	sigh Now if the Lakers could only get better players

03-23-2007, 12:49 AM	#9
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Iverson had back to back 50 point games.

03-23-2007, 01:38 AM	#12
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier

03-23-2007, 03:09 AM	#14
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	You know what i notice about that picture.. That at least 2 of his teammates are wide open

03-23-2007, 03:08 PM	#27
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Good job Kobe, your lakers are now only 16 games out of 1st!

03-23-2007, 08:59 PM	#31
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	44 going into the 4th quarter tonight.

03-23-2007, 09:32 PM	#33
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Woot, way to pile on teams out of playoff contention baby! Good scoring feat though.....It wouldn't suprise me to see him go for 50 4 more games in a row, and the teams the Lakers play either suck or don't play defense.

03-23-2007, 09:33 PM	#34
LloydLungs College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ponchatoula, LA	The Hornets are in playoff contention. If you consider the 8th seed in the west the playoffs as opposed to Dallas' sacrificial play toy.

03-23-2007, 09:38 PM	#36
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	eh, didn't notice houston on there at first.... Will be interesting to see what he does there, as he should easily drop 50 on the griz and warriors if he wants too.

03-23-2007, 11:26 PM	#37
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	No way JVG lets him get 50 on us... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-24-2007, 12:05 PM	#40
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	That is just insane. Regardless if the opposing team is in playoff contention or not, for him to score 50 points in four consecutive games... that's just ridiculous. What makes it more special is that it's Kobe's teammates who are actually giving him the opportunity to score all those points. Lamar Odom and Luke Walton are giving him great passes, and Phil Jackson is really just letting Kobe take over (which, after the near-collapse of the Lakers after the all-star break, is a no-brainer) And it's not like Kobe's forcing the shots (ala 76ers era Iverson)... his FG% these past four games is simply an indication that he IS getting great looks on the court, either due to his skill or due to his teammate's just finding ways to give him the ball (I sincerely doubt any opposing NBA Team/Player/Coach would willingly give Kobe the chance to drop 50 on them... playoff contender or not) Mar. 16 vs Por - 65 points, 59% fg shooting, 66.7% 3pt Mar. 18 vs Min - 50 points, 48.8% fg shooting, 44.4% 3pt Mar. 22 vs Mem - 60 points, 54.1% fg shooting, 42.9% 3pt Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 50 points, 55.2% fg shooting, 40% 3pt In four games: 225 points, 76/140 fg (54.3%), 17/33 3pt (51.5%), 56/60 ft (93.3%), 6.25 rpg, 2.75 apg, 2 topg. The guy even has the time to dish out 2.75 assists a game... AND keep a respectable ATO ratio for his position (and the number of times he gets possesion of the ball)... edit, added: Odom is playing great as well, and Walton (since coming back) has just had one job to do... get the ball to Kobe. Odom's numbers the last four games: Mar. 16 vs Por - 15 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 50% fg Mar. 18 vs Min - 16 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 58.3% fg Mar. 22 vs Mem - 20 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists, 66.7% fg Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 66.7 fg Walton's numbers: Mar. 18 vs Min - 10 points, 8 rebounds, 11 assists, 44% fg Mar. 22 vs Mem - 11 points, 2 rebounds, 4 assists, 57.1% fg Mar. 23 vs. NOK - 13 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 30% fg That's just insane. __________________ Come and see. Last edited by Neon_Chaos : 03-24-2007 at 12:13 PM.

03-24-2007, 12:18 PM	#41
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	you'd think if he's going to ballhog he'd at least go for Zero assists instead of getting a huge 1.

03-24-2007, 01:03 PM	#42
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Sounds like Chubby has a namesake for Kobe.

03-24-2007, 04:04 PM	#43
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I don't understand the hate. It is about winning basketball games. The Lakers lost 7 straight games, Kobe decides to score more and now they've won 4 straight. If Kobe scoring 50+ per game = win, then I'm all for it.

03-25-2007, 06:06 AM	#47
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	Why are you guys wasting your time debating this guy?

03-25-2007, 11:31 AM	#48
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	I am not, have never been, nor will ever be a fan of Kobe. But the show he is putting on now is absolutely remarkable and as long as his team is still winning, he should be commended for putting the team on his back. :: runs to take a shower :: __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

03-25-2007, 12:22 PM	#49
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	On the offensive side of the ball, Jordan V. Kobe is a very reasonable debate. (Jordan obviously still far better all around)

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