Poll: Andrew Luck

tucker rocky · 01-04-2011, 01:58 PM

Will Carolina pick Luck at #1 ?

Assuming he goes pro.

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 02:02 PM

Shouldn't we see if he is going pro first?

Ksyrup · 01-04-2011, 02:11 PM

ESPN.com has an article says 2 high-ranking Carolina people are saying they will pick him.

Danny · 01-04-2011, 02:12 PM

They would be idiots not to.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:13 PM

Most lopsided poll ever?

TRO · 01-04-2011, 02:27 PM

Where is Ignacious Trout?

Logan · 01-04-2011, 02:31 PM

Likely to be the highest graded QB prospect since Elway.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Likely to be the highest graded QB prospect since Elway.

Including Manning?

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 01-04-2011, 02:35 PM

unless they got a king's ransom for the pick.

Logan · 01-04-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Including Manning?

Yep, from what I heard the other day. You remember of course that there were many who had Leaf graded higher because of his "physical ability" edge, and people also questioned Peyton's lack of ability to win the big game at Tennessee.

Thinking about it, I also remember mention of Palmer grading out to be almost flawless as well.

Swaggs · 01-04-2011, 02:40 PM

They better.

Butter · 01-04-2011, 02:43 PM

Good thing they drafted Clausen.

Butter · 01-04-2011, 02:44 PM

What's the difference between "no" and "pick another player"?

Danny · 01-04-2011, 02:46 PM

The no option is if they decide to let the time run out without making a pick

Butter · 01-04-2011, 03:01 PM

Ah, the "Minnesota Viking maneuver".

Sun Tzu · 01-04-2011, 03:36 PM

This isn't a real poll without a trout option.

RomaGoth · 01-04-2011, 04:09 PM

For anyone who is on the fence with this poll:

Sources: Carolina Panthers to pick Andrew Luck if Stanford QB is in NFL draft - ESPN

k0ruptr · 01-04-2011, 04:18 PM

as a Carolina fan, they better take him! Fuck Jimmy Clausen pickles.

Crapshoot · 01-04-2011, 04:21 PM

No doubt whatsoever, if he goes pro. In fact, I'd venture that they won't even listen to trade offers (from say, the 49ers) to move down - Jerry Richardson is an ornery old goat.

stevew · 01-04-2011, 04:23 PM

Luck should have his dad solicit a bonus offer from the Panthers. Of course, he won't know anything about it.

stevew · 01-04-2011, 04:25 PM

How did the Panthers go from being able to run at will, to sucking overnight? I know they had some injuries. But I think Luck is in a pretty good position there as they have some semblance of a left side of a line.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

No doubt whatsoever, if he goes pro. In fact, I'd venture that they won't even listen to trade offers (from say, the 49ers) to move down - Jerry Richardson is an ornery old goat.

To trade from 7 to go up to 1 is going to be painful as hell.

Apathetic Lurker · 01-04-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

To trade from 7 to go up to 1 is going to be painful as hell.

In any other year probably not.....

Radii · 01-04-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

How did the Panthers go from being able to run at will, to sucking overnight? I know they had some injuries. But I think Luck is in a pretty good position there as they have some semblance of a left side of a line.

Passing for nearly 700 yards less than the next worst team in the league despite being behind all the time makes it pretty hard to open up the run game.

Seriously, Carolina threw for 2289 yards this year... that's only 143 per game. Next worst, Arizona at 2921/183 per game.

Logan · 01-04-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

For anyone who is on the fence with this poll:

Sources: Carolina Panthers to pick Andrew Luck if Stanford QB is in NFL draft - ESPN

I would think that even if internally they were sure Clausen was the next Brady, they would still float this out there to get him to declare and improve the value of that pick.

stevew · 01-04-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Passing for nearly 700 yards less than the next worst team in the league despite being behind all the time makes it pretty hard to open up the run game.

Seriously, Carolina threw for 2289 yards this year... that's only 143 per game. Next worst, Arizona at 2921/183 per game.

Trust me. I played Steve Smith 13 weeks in a row figuring they would snap out of it.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 01-04-2011, 06:37 PM

i don't know much about either team but as a casual observer it seems like car is in full on rebuild mode whereas sf has a core of young players minus a qb.

sf could/should come strong with an offer.

Matthean · 01-04-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

In any other year probably not.....

The Atlanta/San Diego trade sent 4 players total to San Diego and Atlanta moved from 5 to 1. So you are looking at bumping it up past 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks with a 4th player.

Raiders Army · 01-04-2011, 07:14 PM

I think the two biggest factors are whether there is an NFL lockout and if Harbarough leaves.

CU Tiger · 01-04-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

i don't know much about either team but as a casual observer it seems like car is in full on rebuild mode whereas sf has a core of young players minus a qb.

sf could/should come strong with an offer.

Carolina on the O side has 2 B= A- RBs
An overall B- line
1 aging but still B= receiver and no QB.
If they had another receiver it may be interesting to see what Clausen/Moore or Luck could do, but as it sits today I luterally watched teams triple cover Steve Smith with quarter help over the top and dare them to throw it some where else. usually Clausen/Moore did..to the defense

Eaglesfan27 · 01-06-2011, 01:33 PM

There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike.

RomaGoth · 01-06-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike.

He must really not want to play in Carolina.

albionmoonlight · 01-06-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike.

The sense I get is that the salary cap (if enacted) would be in effect for all future draftees. I think (though I might be mistaken) that the lockout will occur after the draft, but before anyone is signed.

spleen1015 · 01-06-2011, 01:53 PM

Hasn't he always said he was going to get his degree?

sabotai · 01-06-2011, 01:57 PM

And he's staying.

Andrew Luck skipping NFL draft, will return to Stanford Cardinal - ESPN

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 01-06-2011, 01:59 PM

Ok, Skins, start losing!

Matthean · 01-06-2011, 02:00 PM

Well I know who Carolina won't be picking now.

wade moore · 01-06-2011, 02:06 PM

I see absolutely no logical reason for this decision.

RomaGoth · 01-06-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Ok, Lions, start losing!

Fixed

Logan · 01-06-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I see absolutely no logical reason for this decision.

Rich family, rookie cap likely to be in place anyway, recent history of major injury not reducing chances of being selected #1.

Ksyrup · 01-06-2011, 02:16 PM

OK, Troy, I agree - let Tebow start all 16 games next year!

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-06-2011, 02:18 PM

Looks like the Panthers are out of Luck.

jbergey22 · 01-06-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Looks like the Panthers are out of Luck.

Haha

I see nothing wrong with Luck wanting to stay another season. Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.

bhlloy · 01-06-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The sense I get is that the salary cap (if enacted) would be in effect for all future draftees. I think (though I might be mistaken) that the lockout will occur after the draft, but before anyone is signed.

A full season of lockout has got to be a nightmare scenario for 2011 late round picks who will have twice the number of players to compete against for roster spots, and it will really suck if somebody gets a serious injury in the meantime and never sees a dime. Do you head to Canada and play in the CFL for a salary and risk an injury there or do you just sit on your ass for a year?

Definitely not a good time to be a senior who could have come out last year. A lot of the scenarios that were being floated back then seem to be coming true.

bhlloy · 01-06-2011, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Haha

I see nothing wrong with Luck wanting to stay another season. Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.

This. I wonder how much this plays into Harbaugh's decision. Assuming he wants the NFL and not Michigan, there will be NFL jobs next year and his stock could even go up with Luck back and the recruiting class they are bringing in.

wade moore · 01-06-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Rich family, rookie cap likely to be in place anyway, recent history of major injury not reducing chances of being selected #1.

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Haha

I see nothing wrong with Luck wanting to stay another season. Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.

Are you guys really serious?

Even if there IS a rookie cap, what is the BENEFIT to staying. Don't put that "if an NFL career" doesn't work out carrot out there.

Let's say by some chance Luck needs something to fallback on if he is 3 years and done and can't manage the millions he'll get in a bonus......

Do you really think that Andrew Luck's backup life is significantly different if he finishes his 4th year at Stanford or goes to the NFL and finishes his degree wherever in the offseason?!

Young Drachma · 01-06-2011, 02:25 PM

Jake Locker tells you to go, silly guy. You can always get your degree, leaving tens of millions on the table is absurd.

k0ruptr · 01-06-2011, 02:25 PM

fuck. this hurts the panthers. who the hell do we pick now.

Ben E Lou · 01-06-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Its not a bad thing to have that Stanford degree sitting around in case the NFL didnt work out.

If it doesn't work out, I'm fairly sure he'll be able to afford to pay the rest of his tuition.

RedKingGold · 01-06-2011, 02:32 PM

If the Mayans are right about the 2012 Apocolypse, then Luck is going to be really pissed about missing that one year in the NFL.

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01-04-2011, 02:11 PM	#3
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	ESPN.com has an article says 2 high-ranking Carolina people are saying they will pick him. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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01-04-2011, 02:12 PM	#4
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	They would be idiots not to.

01-04-2011, 02:31 PM	#7
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Likely to be the highest graded QB prospect since Elway.

01-04-2011, 02:35 PM	#9
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	unless they got a king's ransom for the pick.

01-04-2011, 02:43 PM	#12
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Good thing they drafted Clausen. __________________ My listening habits

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Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	What's the difference between "no" and "pick another player"? __________________ My listening habits

01-04-2011, 02:46 PM	#14
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	The no option is if they decide to let the time run out without making a pick

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Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Ah, the "Minnesota Viking maneuver". __________________ My listening habits

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Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	This isn't a real poll without a trout option. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

01-04-2011, 04:18 PM	#18
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	as a Carolina fan, they better take him! Fuck Jimmy Clausen pickles. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-04-2011, 04:21 PM	#19
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	No doubt whatsoever, if he goes pro. In fact, I'd venture that they won't even listen to trade offers (from say, the 49ers) to move down - Jerry Richardson is an ornery old goat.

01-04-2011, 04:23 PM	#20
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Luck should have his dad solicit a bonus offer from the Panthers. Of course, he won't know anything about it.

01-04-2011, 04:25 PM	#21
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How did the Panthers go from being able to run at will, to sucking overnight? I know they had some injuries. But I think Luck is in a pretty good position there as they have some semblance of a left side of a line.

01-04-2011, 06:37 PM	#27
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	i don't know much about either team but as a casual observer it seems like car is in full on rebuild mode whereas sf has a core of young players minus a qb. sf could/should come strong with an offer.

01-04-2011, 07:14 PM	#29
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I think the two biggest factors are whether there is an NFL lockout and if Harbarough leaves.

01-06-2011, 01:33 PM	#31
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	There are reports out there that Stanford is about to announce that Luck has decided to return to school next year. Shocking with the potential rookie salary cap coming down the pike. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

01-06-2011, 01:53 PM	#34
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Hasn't he always said he was going to get his degree?

01-06-2011, 01:57 PM	#35
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	And he's staying. Andrew Luck skipping NFL draft, will return to Stanford Cardinal - ESPN

01-06-2011, 01:59 PM	#36
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Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Well I know who Carolina won't be picking now. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	OK, Troy, I agree - let Tebow start all 16 games next year! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-06-2011, 02:18 PM	#42
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Looks like the Panthers are out of Luck.

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01-06-2011, 02:32 PM	#50
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	If the Mayans are right about the 2012 Apocolypse, then Luck is going to be really pissed about missing that one year in the NFL.

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