RIP Amy Winehouse

GrantDawg · 07-23-2011, 11:44 AM

Not a shock.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rmed-dead.html

rowech · 07-23-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Not a shock.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rmed-dead.html

This might be the least surprising celebrity death ever.

cartman · 07-23-2011, 11:47 AM

Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking.

GrantDawg · 07-23-2011, 11:49 AM

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Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking.

Kieth enjoyed being high, but was lucky to not to die by accident. Winehouse never seemed to want to live long.

cartman · 07-23-2011, 12:00 PM

Jimi Hendrix
Janice Joplin
Jim Morrison
Kurt Cobain
Amy Winehouse

If you are a famous singer, don't do drugs until you turn 28.

Dodgerchick · 07-23-2011, 12:06 PM

They tried to make her to go to rehab but she said, "no, no, no".

RIP, hope she finds peace.

Matthean · 07-23-2011, 12:10 PM

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her death is being treated as 'unexplained' by police.

While they are holding off on the technical reason, I'm pretty sure we can figure out the official reason.

GrantDawg · 07-23-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

While they are holding off on the technical reason, I'm pretty sure we can figure out the official reason.

Not really. Unless there is a needle still in her arm (and possibly even if there is), they can't tell a drug-related death without testing. Could be she died of her heart giving out, pneumonia, or several other factors that was caused from years of abuse.

Buccaneer · 07-23-2011, 12:12 PM

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While they are holding off on the technical reason, I'm pretty sure we can figure out the official reason.

Have to give the PR flaks the time to come up with a good lie - like acid reflux or something.

Least surprising celebrity death, esp. after her "performance" last month and the cancelling of the tour.

Matthean · 07-23-2011, 12:16 PM

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was caused from years of abuse.

Which is my point. The years of abuse is what killed her.

RainMaker · 07-23-2011, 12:20 PM

Least surprising celebrity death ever. Now I'll have to see the news dedicate time to someone who didn't really give a shit about living and who's celebrity was partially from her being a colassal fuck up.

Suicane75 · 07-23-2011, 12:31 PM

I find this to be such a horrible shame. Not because of her fame or her talent but for the fact that she had so much more possibility for help than the majority of people with her problem. Yet her and the people close to her pissed it away and let her die slowly and horrifically on the public stage.

molson · 07-23-2011, 12:37 PM

This one could kind of go in the "what makes you feel hold" thread for me too, because I wouldn't recognize this person, know what songs she sung, or know anything about them other than vaguely that she was a big druggy. Kind of like how an old guy would react to the deaths of any druggy celebrity.

RedKingGold · 07-23-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Jimi Hendrix
Janice Joplin
Jim Morrison
Kurt Cobain
Amy Winehouse

If you are a famous singer, don't do drugs until you turn 28.

One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?

Matthean · 07-23-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?

Something that goes against her is a lack of albums even considering the list has people who put out few of them. She never put out another one after "Back to Black" which put her on the map.

From wikipedia

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British singer Adele had credited Winehouse's success in the United States for making her and fellow British singer Duffy's journey to the United States "a bit smoother".^[74] American singer Lady Gaga credited Winehouse with paving the way for her rise to the top of the charts. She appeared to be using a metaphorical analogy to explain that Winehouse made it easier for unconventional women to have mainstream pop success.^[75] The "Winehouse phenomenon" has been credited by Sebastian Danchin, author of Encyclopedia of Rhythm & Blues and Soul, of kick-starting a revival of soul music that has been ongoing since 2000. Danchin quoting Raphael Saadiq, Anthony Hamilton, and John Legend said "Amy Winehouse was produced by people who wanted to create a marketing coup. The positive side is that it reacquainted an audience with this music and played an introductory role for others. This reinvigorated the genre by overcoming the vintage aspect".^[76]
The release of Back to Black and the emergence of Lily Allen has been credited by The Sunday Times as directly creating the market for the media proclaimed "the year of the women" in 2009 which has seen five female artists nominated for the Mercury Prize. After the album was released record companies sought out female artists with a similar sound and fearless and experimental female musicians in general. Adele and Duffy were the second wave of artists with a sound similar to Winehouse's. A third wave of female musicians that has emerged since the album was released are led by VV Brown, Florence and the Machine, La Roux and Little Boots.^[77] In February 2010, rapper Jay-Z credited Winehouse with revitalising British music, saying, "There's a strong push coming out of London right now, which is great. It's been coming ever since I guess Amy (Winehouse). I mean always, but I think Amy, this resurgence was ushered in by Amy."^[78] In March 2011 the New York Daily News ran an article attributing the continuing wave of British female artists that have been successful in the United States to Winehouse and her absence. Spin magazine music editor Charles Aaron was quoted as saying "Amy Winehouse was the Nirvana moment for all these women," "They can all be traced back to her in terms of attitude, musical styles or fashion". According to Keith Caulfield chart manager for Billboard "Because of Amy, or the lack thereof, the marketplace was able to get singers like Adele and Duffy," "Now those ladies have brought on the new ones, like Eliza Doolittle, Rumer and Ellie."^[79]

Julio Riddols · 07-23-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?

I'd vote no.

Draft Dodger · 07-23-2011, 12:58 PM

the inevitability of this makes it sadder

BYU 14 · 07-23-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

the inevitability of this makes it sadder

+1

William051071 · 07-23-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking.

He's done so much, his body is immune to anything that might kill him.
Pretty close to being immortal.

He can fall out of a tree, suffer a head injury, and still live.

ColtCrazy · 07-23-2011, 02:44 PM

I woke up from a nap and was reading updated info on the BBC about the horrible Norway attacks when I saw this up in the top right.

I feel very guilty that, like many of you, I wasn't surprised at all. Still a shame, but not shocked at all.

Wonder if this ends up giving up cult like status?

Scoobz0202 · 07-23-2011, 04:12 PM

Addiction is so cruel.

Ksyrup · 07-23-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

This one could kind of go in the "what makes you feel hold" thread for me too, because I wouldn't recognize this person, know what songs she sung, or know anything about them other than vaguely that she was a big druggy. Kind of like how an old guy would react to the deaths of any druggy celebrity.

Yep. She might as well be Lindsay Lohan. I know she sings, but I wouldn't know of her if not for her personal issues.

Scoobz0202 · 07-23-2011, 10:55 PM

Yea, I don't know if 20-30 years from now she will be in the same league as Hendrix, Joplin, etc. but I do know that Back to Black is a phenomenal album, and Love Is A Losing Game is a song that should go down as a great. She didn't accomplish what those did by 27, but I feel she had the potential.

stevew · 07-23-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

One of these is not like the other...

Do we seriously put Winehouse in that group?

I suppose the fact that she owns more Grammys than the rest of those people combined should count for something.

DaddyTorgo · 07-23-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Yea, I don't know if 20-30 years from now she will be in the same league as Hendrix, Joplin, etc. but I do know that Back to Black is a phenomenal album, and Love Is A Losing Game is a song that should go down as a great. She didn't accomplish what those did by 27, but I feel she had the potential.

Never heard of the album or the song, so I'd disagree vehemently.

Izulde · 07-23-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I suppose the fact that she owns more Grammys than the rest of those people combined should count for something.

Considering the stupidity of contemporary voters, no, no it shouldn't.

johnnyshaka · 07-24-2011, 12:32 AM

@normmacdonald
RIP Amy Winehouse. We lost a true heroin addict today.

larnott · 07-24-2011, 03:31 AM

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Considering the stupidity of contemporary voters, no, no it shouldn't.

And, to that end, the musical tastes of voters in the late 60's as well. "Up Up and Away" by the Fifth Dimension cleaned up the 1968 Grammys... Record of the Year, Song of the Year, etc.

Matthean · 07-24-2011, 08:28 AM

As much valid hate the Grammys get, this isn't like Katy Perry, or Justin Bieber getting nominated. "Rehab" was one of, if not, the best single that year. The record by no means was a one hit wonder either, so I have little to no issue with whatever awards that album was awarded. Yes, some rather talented acts don't get awarded. It doesn't lessen the quality of what Amy put out on "Back to Black."

Of the people listed, I do believe she is the only one who isn't American. Duffy is somebody who got pushed because of Amy and is far less known in America. It still doesn't mean her single "Mercy" isn't great.

Rizon · 07-24-2011, 10:35 AM

Lance Bass is gay.

cartman · 07-24-2011, 11:30 AM

Someone noted that because of all of the singers that died at age 27, that means we might only have 10 more years of Justin Bieber.

M GO BLUE!!! · 07-24-2011, 01:22 PM

In retrospect, perhaps she should have taken rehab a bit more seriously...

SteveMax58 · 07-24-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

@normmacdonald
RIP Amy Winehouse. We lost a true heroin addict today.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-26-2011, 10:12 AM

This article reads like a nightmare if you're a parent. Parents who appear to be just like any other regular parent who have a child that has her life totally fall to pieces. I would think that you always are left to wonder if you could have done anything differently.

Family say farewell to "angel" Winehouse - omg! news on Yahoo!

Ksyrup · 07-26-2011, 10:33 AM

Artists at that level aren't really too "normal," though. There's only so much you can do.

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Record industry body the Official Charts Company said on Tuesday that her music was expected to dominate the British charts by the end of the week.

She is on course to have seven singles in the Top 40 and 14 in the Top 200, with the biggest selling track currently Back To Black followed by "Rehab," "Tears Dry On Their Own," "You Know I'm No Good" and "Valerie."

In the year following his death, Jackson sold more records in Britain than any other artist.

Ugly apparition, God's gift to oxygen
The puffed up immortal son
How they love him cause he'll become
The ghost at number one

07-23-2011, 11:47 AM	#3
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Yet Keith Richards is still alive and kicking. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-23-2011, 12:00 PM	#5
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Jimi Hendrix Janice Joplin Jim Morrison Kurt Cobain Amy Winehouse If you are a famous singer, don't do drugs until you turn 28. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-23-2011, 12:31 PM	#12
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I find this to be such a horrible shame. Not because of her fame or her talent but for the fact that she had so much more possibility for help than the majority of people with her problem. Yet her and the people close to her pissed it away and let her die slowly and horrifically on the public stage. Last edited by Suicane75 : 07-23-2011 at 12:32 PM.

07-23-2011, 12:37 PM	#13
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	This one could kind of go in the "what makes you feel hold" thread for me too, because I wouldn't recognize this person, know what songs she sung, or know anything about them other than vaguely that she was a big druggy. Kind of like how an old guy would react to the deaths of any druggy celebrity. Last edited by molson : 07-23-2011 at 12:37 PM.

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Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	the inevitability of this makes it sadder __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-23-2011, 12:06 PM	#6
Dodgerchick College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX	They tried to make her to go to rehab but she said, "no, no, no". RIP, hope she finds peace.

07-23-2011, 12:20 PM	#11
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Least surprising celebrity death ever. Now I'll have to see the news dedicate time to someone who didn't really give a shit about living and who's celebrity was partially from her being a colassal fuck up.

07-23-2011, 02:44 PM	#20
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I woke up from a nap and was reading updated info on the BBC about the horrible Norway attacks when I saw this up in the top right. I feel very guilty that, like many of you, I wasn't surprised at all. Still a shame, but not shocked at all. Wonder if this ends up giving up cult like status? __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

07-23-2011, 04:12 PM	#21
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Addiction is so cruel.

07-23-2011, 10:55 PM	#23
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Yea, I don't know if 20-30 years from now she will be in the same league as Hendrix, Joplin, etc. but I do know that Back to Black is a phenomenal album, and Love Is A Losing Game is a song that should go down as a great. She didn't accomplish what those did by 27, but I feel she had the potential.

07-24-2011, 12:32 AM	#27
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	@normmacdonald RIP Amy Winehouse. We lost a true heroin addict today.

07-24-2011, 08:28 AM	#29
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	As much valid hate the Grammys get, this isn't like Katy Perry, or Justin Bieber getting nominated. "Rehab" was one of, if not, the best single that year. The record by no means was a one hit wonder either, so I have little to no issue with whatever awards that album was awarded. Yes, some rather talented acts don't get awarded. It doesn't lessen the quality of what Amy put out on "Back to Black." Of the people listed, I do believe she is the only one who isn't American. Duffy is somebody who got pushed because of Amy and is far less known in America. It still doesn't mean her single "Mercy" isn't great. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 07-24-2011 at 08:30 AM.

07-24-2011, 11:30 AM	#31
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Someone noted that because of all of the singers that died at age 27, that means we might only have 10 more years of Justin Bieber. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-24-2011, 01:22 PM	#32
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	In retrospect, perhaps she should have taken rehab a bit more seriously...

07-26-2011, 10:12 AM	#34
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	This article reads like a nightmare if you're a parent. Parents who appear to be just like any other regular parent who have a child that has her life totally fall to pieces. I would think that you always are left to wonder if you could have done anything differently. Family say farewell to "angel" Winehouse - omg! news on Yahoo!

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