Fined

Franklinnoble · 04-26-2003, 07:01 PM

So, my 14 year old son noticed all the time I've been spending on Hattrick lately, and I decided to set him up with a squad.

Naturally, the Hattrick gods managed to figure out we logged in from the same IP or something, and have fined me $75,000 for the attempt.

Ouch.

RPI-Fan · 04-26-2003, 07:08 PM

That's not allowed?

Wow, that's unbelievable.

Did you try e-mailing to tell them the circumstances?

Franklinnoble · 04-26-2003, 07:13 PM

Well, I understand the need to curb cheating, although I kind of figured they'd wait to fine people until after something suspicious had been done (i.e. - my son paying 200k for the weak keeper I just pulled, etc.)

Yeah, I sent them e-mail. No response yet.

The Afoci · 04-26-2003, 09:10 PM

at my work, we all have the same ip, there are 3 teams from it. we play friendlies on occasion, once so far, but absolutely no transfer activity between each other, even at market price.

Franklinnoble · 04-26-2003, 10:24 PM

Well, like I said, I'd like to see if they could cut me a break... $75K is a LOT... and I'm sure I'd be watched like a hawk for any suspicious activity.

NevStar · 04-26-2003, 10:38 PM

I'd HT-Mail one of the GM's. My girlfriend & I log in from the same IP & even have made some transfers (at market price) & we haven't been fined... *knock on wood*

lytic · 04-26-2003, 11:15 PM

$75k is a small fine considering your son paid $200k for a weak keeper.

Coffee Warlord · 04-26-2003, 11:39 PM

I don't think his son did that, lytic. I think he was using that as an example of a Stupid Idea (tm).

(At least I hope.)

FrogMan · 04-27-2003, 08:58 AM

yeah, I think he was asking the GM to wait until his son had done something very wrong LIKE paying 200K for blah blah...

(same here: at least I hope

)

FrogMan

GoldenEagle · 04-27-2003, 01:38 PM

My brother and I both have teams. So far, I dont guess there have been any complaints because we both log on from same IP most of the time.

Brillig · 04-27-2003, 03:19 PM

There was a thread about this on the USA conference, iirc. Two GM's came out saying it was fine as long as you didn't transfer, so I would definitely appeal to GM-George.

Franklinnoble · 04-28-2003, 01:53 PM

I've sent the appeal... pending review, I suppose...

Blade6119 · 04-28-2003, 02:08 PM

Well....my father and i got warned for it from GM-George...He bought a passable keeper and a passable scorer...i gave him advice on his team and he needed a keeper and a forward so he bought mine...explained my situation to him, and he said it was cool...we talked about Ardent as they are friends, talked about fof, then parted ways....try sending to him...he was very helpful!

Brillig · 04-28-2003, 02:10 PM

Here's the thread I was referring to...

http://195.149.159.155/common/cn.asp?action=view&threadid=307729&number=&site=HT

lytic · 04-28-2003, 02:51 PM

I'm finally off the Percocet... maybe my reading eyes and brain will come back soon...

As for same IPs, my wife and I play, in fact I just beat her in OT in my last cup match. As long as there is no transfer going on then it's okay.

IN FACT, it's okay to transfer a player with GM approval. I'd just rather not even go down that path...

lytic · 04-28-2003, 02:54 PM

oh and my appoligies for my post... like I said I had surgery on my Achillies Tendon and I've been loopy on Percocet.

so yeah... sorry.

Franklinnoble · 04-28-2003, 03:30 PM

mmm... percocet.

I'd be happy if they'd just reverse the damned $75k fine... I'm buried in debt as it is...

Poli · 04-30-2003, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blade6119
Well....my father and i got warned for it from GM-George...He bought a passable keeper and a passable scorer...i gave him advice on his team and he needed a keeper and a forward so he bought mine...explained my situation to him, and he said it was cool...we talked about Ardent as they are friends, talked about fof, then parted ways....try sending to him...he was very helpful!

Must have been a short conversation if you were talking about me!

Good to know I'm talked about.

GM-George and I are friends, we email each other. I have a rematch promised, one day I'll take it. I'll have to get eliminated from the US Open Cup and the FOFC Cup first!

Franklinnoble · 04-30-2003, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ardent enthusiast

GM-George and I are friends, we email each other. I have a rematch promised, one day I'll take it. I'll have to get eliminated from the US Open Cup and the FOFC Cup first!

Well, then could you ask him why he hasn't replied to my e-mail? Please?

lytic · 04-30-2003, 07:02 PM

try [email protected] ?

Franklinnoble · 04-30-2003, 07:14 PM

Ok... thanks. :-)

Franklinnoble · 05-01-2003, 05:31 PM

Well, after a few e-mails to the right people, I got it straightened out...

Thanks everyone for all your help!

lytic · 05-01-2003, 07:50 PM

anytime...

04-26-2003, 07:08 PM	#2
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	That's not allowed? Wow, that's unbelievable. Did you try e-mailing to tell them the circumstances? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

04-26-2003, 09:10 PM	#4
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	at my work, we all have the same ip, there are 3 teams from it. we play friendlies on occasion, once so far, but absolutely no transfer activity between each other, even at market price. __________________ I had something.

04-26-2003, 10:38 PM	#6
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	I'd HT-Mail one of the GM's. My girlfriend & I log in from the same IP & even have made some transfers (at market price) & we haven't been fined... knock on wood __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

04-26-2003, 11:15 PM	#7
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	$75k is a small fine considering your son paid $200k for a weak keeper. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

04-27-2003, 08:58 AM	#9
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	yeah, I think he was asking the GM to wait until his son had done something very wrong LIKE paying 200K for blah blah... (same here: at least I hope ) FrogMan __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

04-26-2003, 07:13 PM	#3
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Well, I understand the need to curb cheating, although I kind of figured they'd wait to fine people until after something suspicious had been done (i.e. - my son paying 200k for the weak keeper I just pulled, etc.) Yeah, I sent them e-mail. No response yet.

04-26-2003, 10:24 PM	#5
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Well, like I said, I'd like to see if they could cut me a break... $75K is a LOT... and I'm sure I'd be watched like a hawk for any suspicious activity.

04-26-2003, 11:39 PM	#8
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I don't think his son did that, lytic. I think he was using that as an example of a Stupid Idea (tm). (At least I hope.)

04-27-2003, 01:38 PM	#10
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	My brother and I both have teams. So far, I dont guess there have been any complaints because we both log on from same IP most of the time. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

04-27-2003, 03:19 PM	#11
Brillig College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mountain View, California	There was a thread about this on the USA conference, iirc. Two GM's came out saying it was fine as long as you didn't transfer, so I would definitely appeal to GM-George.

04-28-2003, 01:53 PM	#12
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I've sent the appeal... pending review, I suppose...

04-28-2003, 02:08 PM	#13
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Well....my father and i got warned for it from GM-George...He bought a passable keeper and a passable scorer...i gave him advice on his team and he needed a keeper and a forward so he bought mine...explained my situation to him, and he said it was cool...we talked about Ardent as they are friends, talked about fof, then parted ways....try sending to him...he was very helpful! __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

04-28-2003, 02:10 PM	#14
Brillig College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mountain View, California	Here's the thread I was referring to... http://195.149.159.155/common/cn.asp?action=view&threadid=307729&number=&site=HT

04-28-2003, 02:51 PM	#15
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	I'm finally off the Percocet... maybe my reading eyes and brain will come back soon... As for same IPs, my wife and I play, in fact I just beat her in OT in my last cup match. As long as there is no transfer going on then it's okay. IN FACT, it's okay to transfer a player with GM approval. I'd just rather not even go down that path... __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

04-28-2003, 02:54 PM	#16
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	oh and my appoligies for my post... like I said I had surgery on my Achillies Tendon and I've been loopy on Percocet. so yeah... sorry. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

04-28-2003, 03:30 PM	#17
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	mmm... percocet. I'd be happy if they'd just reverse the damned $75k fine... I'm buried in debt as it is...

04-30-2003, 07:02 PM	#20
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	try [email protected] ? __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

04-30-2003, 07:14 PM	#21
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Ok... thanks. :-)

05-01-2003, 05:31 PM	#22
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Fixed... Well, after a few e-mails to the right people, I got it straightened out... Thanks everyone for all your help!

05-01-2003, 07:50 PM	#23
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	anytime... __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

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