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06-24-2004, 05:45 AM

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</TD><TD class=alt1>http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/images/icons/icon7.gif *** OOTP 6.03 Patch released! ***
<HR style="COLOR: #aaaaaa" SIZE=1>OK, the wait is over http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/images/smilies/smile.gif

You can get the patch here:
DOWNLOAD 6.03 PATCH (http://ootpdevfiles.com/ootp/ootp603.exe)

The patch fixes/enhances the following:

- Improved waivers AI. Teams now handle it more carefully (prospects), and also pull players off waivers
if they have no interest in losing them
- Fixed option years counting, in previous versions players had one extra option year (4 instead of 3).
- Fixed Minor league FA toggle, it was reversed.
- Improved game simming speed
- Fixed salary and possible free agent reports. The latter now displays players who have reached 6 years of MLB service
and so are definitely FA at the end of the season.
- Fixed pinch-hit for DH bug
- Improved pitching change logic
- Fixed promotion days importing bug, the game deducted too much cash from teams
- Removed financial figures/options in non-financial leagues
- Tweaked player development to allow slightly more young stars
- Fixed small bugs

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Markus
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- Tweaked player development to allow slightly more young starsExample from my test league last night. He hit .300 at age 19/20, 200 hits by age 21/22.

<TABLE class=overall><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>#87 William "Chaser" Wallace, Leftfield, 44 yrs, No Team
Tuesday, 10/26/2092</TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>file:///c:/progra~1/outoft~1/ootp6~1/graphics/defaultphoto.bmp</TD><TD class=s4>Name :
Nickname :
Birthday :
Age :
Born in :
Height :
Weight :

Position :
Bats :
Throws :
</TD><TD class=s4>William Wallace
Chaser
7/26/2020
44
Canada
6"0
170

Leftfield
L
L
</TD><TD class=s4>Desire for Winner :
Loyalty :
Team Leader Skills :
Consistency :
Clutch Performance :
Injury Rating :
Overall Rating :
</B></TD><TD class=s4>Average
Average
None at all
Good
Normal
Prone
1.0 Stars
</TD><TD class=s4> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Contract & Roster Status

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Contract :
Salary :
Signed Through :
Years of MLB Service :
MLB Service Days this Year :
Years on 40-Man Roster :
Years of Pro Service :
Rule 5 Draft Eligibility :
Arbitration Eligibility :
Minor League Option Years :
Minor League Free Agency :
</TD><TD class=s4>Minor League Contract
-
-
25 Year(s), 129 Days (4429 total Days)
0 Day(s)
25 Year(s), 138 Days (4438 total Days)
28 Year(s)
Inelegible (more than 6 pro years)
Not eligible
1 Option Year(s) left
Not eligible yet.
</TD><TD class=s4> </TD><TD class=s4> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Ratings

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>Contact</TD><TD>Gap</TD><TD>Power</TD><TD>Discipline/Eye</TD><TD>Avoid K's</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Overall</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>27</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Versus LHP</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>27</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Versus RHP</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>27</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Talent</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>32</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Running & Bunting Ratings
Running Speed :
Stealing Ability :
Baserunning Instincts :
Sacrifice Bunt :
Bunt for Hit :
Hitter Type :
</TD><TD class=s4>
40
53
72
4
1
Normal
</TD><TD class=s4>Fielding Ratings
LF : 55 (Range), .984 (Fielding Pct.)
RF : 63 (Range), .975 (Fielding Pct.)
Catcher Arm : 4
Infield Arm : 60
Outfield Arm : 93
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Game Log, Last 10 Games

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Date</TD><TD>Opp.</TD><TD class=s3> Result</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>Spot</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Batting Stats 2092

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD>TAVG</TD><TD>ISO</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2> </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>PA</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>IW</TD><TD>CI</TD><TD>GDP</TD><TD>SH</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>TB</TD><TD>EBH</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>SB%</TD><TD>RC</TD><TD>RC/27</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2> </TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.0</TD><TD>.0</TD><TD>.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1></TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>SH</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>vs. LHP</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>vs. RHP</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Close/Late</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Scoring Position</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Pinch Hitting</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1></TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Career Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD class=s3>Teams</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2037</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.125</TD><TD>.222</TD><TD>.125</TD><TD>.347</TD><TD class=s3_2>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2038</TD><TD>130</TD><TD>238</TD><TD>77</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.324</TD><TD>.376</TD><TD>.441</TD><TD>.817</TD><TD class=s3>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2039</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>162</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>.315</TD><TD>.369</TD><TD>.426</TD><TD>.795</TD><TD class=s3_2>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2040</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>544</TD><TD>171</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>.314</TD><TD>.403</TD><TD>.393</TD><TD>.797</TD><TD class=s3>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2041</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>557</TD><TD>169</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>.303</TD><TD>.370</TD><TD>.422</TD><TD>.792</TD><TD class=s3_2>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2042</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>609</TD><TD>202</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>109</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>.332</TD><TD>.411</TD><TD>.453</TD><TD>.864</TD><TD class=s3>FLO,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2043</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>601</TD><TD>200</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>126</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>.333</TD><TD>.414</TD><TD>.448</TD><TD>.861</TD><TD class=s3_2>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2044</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>608</TD><TD>184</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>136</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>117</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>.303</TD><TD>.392</TD><TD>.480</TD><TD>.872</TD><TD class=s3>FLO</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2045</TD><TD>154</TD><TD>586</TD><TD>180</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>104</TD><TD>125</TD><TD>91</TD><TD>123</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>.307</TD><TD>.400</TD><TD>.491</TD><TD>.892</TD><TD class=s3_2>BOS,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2046</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>596</TD><TD>193</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>150</TD><TD>141</TD><TD>90</TD><TD>149</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>.324</TD><TD>.413</TD><TD>.604</TD><TD>1.017</TD><TD class=s3>BOS,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2047</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>595</TD><TD>159</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>98</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>142</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>.267</TD><TD>.352</TD><TD>.445</TD><TD>.798</TD><TD class=s3_2>BOS</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2048</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>596</TD><TD>175</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.294</TD><TD>.379</TD><TD>.547</TD><TD>.926</TD><TD class=s3>TOR CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2049</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>627</TD><TD>189</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>129</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>155</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.301</TD><TD>.383</TD><TD>.595</TD><TD>.978</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2050</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>612</TD><TD>179</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>134</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>.292</TD><TD>.381</TD><TD>.503</TD><TD>.885</TD><TD class=s3>CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2051</TD><TD>159</TD><TD>587</TD><TD>178</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>117</TD><TD>135</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>138</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>.303</TD><TD>.390</TD><TD>.572</TD><TD>.963</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2052</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>612</TD><TD>196</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>122</TD><TD>135</TD><TD>77</TD><TD>116</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>.320</TD><TD>.396</TD><TD>.598</TD><TD>.994</TD><TD class=s3>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2053</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>601</TD><TD>186</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.309</TD><TD>.391</TD><TD>.516</TD><TD>.907</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2054</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>610</TD><TD>183</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>98</TD><TD>113</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>115</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>.300</TD><TD>.371</TD><TD>.475</TD><TD>.847</TD><TD class=s3>CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2055</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>613</TD><TD>207</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.338</TD><TD>.418</TD><TD>.569</TD><TD>.988</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2056</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>594</TD><TD>199</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>113</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>87</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>.335</TD><TD>.420</TD><TD>.561</TD><TD>.981</TD><TD class=s3>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2057</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>608</TD><TD>213</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>119</TD><TD>125</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>.350</TD><TD>.428</TD><TD>.605</TD><TD>1.033</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2058</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>623</TD><TD>201</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>124</TD><TD>137</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>.323</TD><TD>.411</TD><TD>.543</TD><TD>.954</TD><TD class=s3>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2059</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>620</TD><TD>207</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>154</TD><TD>137</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>.334</TD><TD>.405</TD><TD>.587</TD><TD>.992</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2060</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>601</TD><TD>183</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>115</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>138</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>.304</TD><TD>.379</TD><TD>.499</TD><TD>.878</TD><TD class=s3>NY,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2061</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>609</TD><TD>195</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>119</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>77</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.320</TD><TD>.397</TD><TD>.545</TD><TD>.942</TD><TD class=s3_2>ATL,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Total</TD><TD>3628</TD><TD>13625</TD><TD>4279</TD><TD>521</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>718</TD><TD>2478</TD><TD>2699</TD><TD>1824</TD><TD>2698</TD><TD>700</TD><TD>304</TD><TD>.314</TD><TD>.395</TD><TD>.519</TD><TD>.914</TD><TD class=s3> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Career Minor League Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2037, A</TD><TD>56</TD><TD>218</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.266</TD><TD>.361</TD><TD>.367</TD><TD>.728</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2037, AA</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>192</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.266</TD><TD>.363</TD><TD>.375</TD><TD>.738</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2037, AAA</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.286</TD><TD>.419</TD><TD>.440</TD><TD>.860</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2064, AAA</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.254</TD><TD>.312</TD><TD>.373</TD><TD>.685</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

kingnebwsu

06-24-2004, 05:53 AM

Hopefully this'll get me back into the game...though Hold 'Em has been taking up a lot of my time :)

Ksyrup

06-24-2004, 07:09 AM

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 07:10 AM

Same here, at least the first part.

I'm glad to see that kind of player is possible now. Not that 4000 hit guys should be a common occurrence, but I've simmed about 200 years in several careers, and never saw anyone get beyond 3600.He was the only 4,000-hit guy in my overnight sim last night that ran 90+ seasons. Sounds good to me.

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 07:24 AM

Further data on that league...

(and actually I was slightly incorrect. It ran from 2004-2091: 88 seasons.)

3 hitters had 3,500+ hits....4279, 3904, 3659 were the top 3.

7 hitters had 700+ homers....top three were 849, 777, 737 (before y'all go gettting alarmed, keep in mind that this is 88 seasons run with current home run hitting totals.)

4 players had 800+ SB's.

One pitcher had 300+ wins: 356! :eek: (another issue with playing all Modern Era...I use 250 as my HOF benchmark when using Modern...7 had 250+)

spleen1015

06-24-2004, 08:05 AM

Hey Ben, these guys with the records, are they from the intial player pool or are they players that come along during your 88 year?

I see now that the 4000 H guys come along in 2037. What about the others?

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 08:09 AM

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 08:13 AM

Most are created players, but #8 all-time HR guy (689) was in the original pool. He was 24 when the pool was created, and was in the bigs from day 1. Why?

spleen1015

06-24-2004, 08:15 AM

I just wanted to make sure they were created.

You get the 19-22 year olds in the intial player pool that are ML ready as superstars. I was wondering if any of those guys was one of those.

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 08:21 AM

I just wanted to make sure they were created.

You get the 19-22 year olds in the intial player pool that are ML ready as superstars. I was wondering if any of those guys was one of those.Oh yeah! I had one of those in the league I used for my first OOTP Dynasty thread. He was 19 or 20 and hit 30ish HR's in his first year. I didn't run across any guys like that in this patch.

Buccaneer

06-24-2004, 08:40 AM

Why y'all just focusing on player development? How about some comments on AI roster management and GM stuff?

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 08:56 AM

Just looking over the HTML from the test league I'm running right now, it appears that there's another good sign for player development. I'm seeing more under-30 players among the league leaders than I saw in previous iterations.

andy m

06-24-2004, 09:14 AM

Why y'all just focusing on player development? How about some comments on AI roster management and GM stuff?
because OOTP is only worth playing when you compete against human opponents.

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 09:40 AM

I'm running a long-term sim, and thought I'd take a gander at the almanac as things move along. I can't wait to see what this guy is gonna become! :eek:

<TABLE class=overall><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>#59 Hershel "The Icebox" Brauer, First Base, 20 yrs, Tampa Bay
Tuesday, 10/19/2028</TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>file:///c:/progra~1/outoft~1/ootp6~1/graphics/defaultphoto.bmp</TD><TD class=s4>Name :
Nickname :
Birthday :
Age :
Born in :
Height :
Weight :

Position :
Bats :
Throws :
</TD><TD class=s4>Hershel Brauer
The Icebox
8/9/2008
20
USA
6"2
190

First Base
R
R
</TD><TD class=s4>Desire for Winner :
Loyalty :
Team Leader Skills :
Consistency :
Clutch Performance :
Injury Rating :
Prospect rating :
</B></TD><TD class=s4>Minimal
Average
None at all
Very inconsistent
GREAT
Normal
5.0 Stars
</TD><TD class=s4> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Contract & Roster Status

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Contract :
Salary :
Signed Through :
Years of MLB Service :
MLB Service Days this Year :
Years on 40-Man Roster :
Years of Pro Service :
Rule 5 Draft Eligibility :
Arbitration Eligibility :
Minor League Option Years :
</TD><TD class=s4>Big League Contract
$ 300,000
2028 (Possible Arbitration)
2 Year(s), 32 Days (376 total Days)
172 Day(s)
2 Year(s), 103 Days (447 total Days)
3 Year(s)
Protected (on 40 Man Roster)

2 Option Year(s) left
</TD><TD class=s4> </TD><TD class=s4> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Ratings

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>Contact</TD><TD>Gap</TD><TD>Power</TD><TD>Discipline/Eye</TD><TD>Avoid K's</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Overall</TD><TD>77</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>46</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Versus LHP</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>47</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Versus RHP</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>46</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Talent</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>50</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Running & Bunting Ratings
Running Speed :
Stealing Ability :
Baserunning Instincts :
Sacrifice Bunt :
Bunt for Hit :
Hitter Type :
</TD><TD class=s4>
13
35
33
1
1
Pull Hitter
</TD><TD class=s4>Fielding Ratings
1B : 36 (Range), .991 (Fielding Pct.)
Catcher Arm : 4
Infield Arm : 29
Outfield Arm : 6
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Game Log, Last 10 Games

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Date</TD><TD>Opp.</TD><TD class=s3> Result</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>Spot</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>9/20</TD><TD>@C(</TD><TD class=s3_2>W 9-2 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1217.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>9/22</TD><TD>@NY</TD><TD class=s3>L 1-8 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1227.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>9/23</TD><TD>@NY</TD><TD class=s3_2>W 8-6 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1235.html)</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>9/24</TD><TD>TOR</TD><TD class=s3>W 3-2 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1243.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>9/25</TD><TD>TOR</TD><TD class=s3_2>L 2-5 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1251.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>9/26</TD><TD>DET</TD><TD class=s3>W 7-5 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1260.html)</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>9/27</TD><TD>@CLE</TD><TD class=s3_2>W 8-3 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1266.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>9/28</TD><TD>@DET</TD><TD class=s3>L 2-4 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1275.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>9/29</TD><TD>@CLE</TD><TD class=s3_2>L 3-4 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1284.html)</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>10/1</TD><TD>DET</TD><TD class=s3>L 2-8 (file://Ylnorthlake/ootp%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2028.alm/box1292.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Batting Stats 2028

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD>TAVG</TD><TD>ISO</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2> </TD><TD>156</TD><TD>632</TD><TD>229</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>125</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>.362</TD><TD>.391</TD><TD>.524</TD><TD>.915</TD><TD>.865</TD><TD>.161</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>PA</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>IW</TD><TD>CI</TD><TD>GDP</TD><TD>SH</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>TB</TD><TD>EBH</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>SB%</TD><TD>RC</TD><TD>RC/27</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2> </TD><TD>149</TD><TD>675</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>331</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.0</TD><TD>125.9</TD><TD>7.9</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1></TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>SH</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>vs. LHP</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.304</TD><TD>.345</TD><TD>.455</TD><TD>.800</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>vs. RHP</TD><TD>520</TD><TD>195</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>109</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.375</TD><TD>.401</TD><TD>.538</TD><TD>.940</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Close/Late</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.349</TD><TD>.373</TD><TD>.476</TD><TD>.849</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Scoring Position</TD><TD>169</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.420</TD><TD>.427</TD><TD>.615</TD><TD>1.042</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Pinch Hitting</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.286</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.286</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1></TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Home</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>312</TD><TD>116</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>60</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>.372</TD><TD>.388</TD><TD>.542</TD><TD>.930</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Road</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>320</TD><TD>113</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>37</TD><TD>.353</TD><TD>.394</TD><TD>.506</TD><TD>.900</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>March/April</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>115</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>.435</TD><TD>.433</TD><TD>.609</TD><TD>1.042</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>May</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>117</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>.342</TD><TD>.364</TD><TD>.479</TD><TD>.842</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>June</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>.292</TD><TD>.330</TD><TD>.448</TD><TD>.778</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>July</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>101</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>.406</TD><TD>.445</TD><TD>.703</TD><TD>1.148</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>August</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>.364</TD><TD>.398</TD><TD>.505</TD><TD>.903</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Sept/Oct</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>.323</TD><TD>.369</TD><TD>.385</TD><TD>.754</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Career Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD class=s3>Teams</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2026</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.250</TD><TD>.351</TD><TD>.406</TD><TD>.758</TD><TD class=s3_2>TB</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2027</TD><TD>132</TD><TD>455</TD><TD>152</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.334</TD><TD>.367</TD><TD>.446</TD><TD>.814</TD><TD class=s3>TB</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2028</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>632</TD><TD>229</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>125</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.362</TD><TD>.391</TD><TD>.524</TD><TD>.915</TD><TD class=s3_2>TB,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Total</TD><TD>306</TD><TD>1119</TD><TD>389</TD><TD>95</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>205</TD><TD>164</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.348</TD><TD>.381</TD><TD>.489</TD><TD>.870</TD><TD class=s3> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Career Minor League Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2025, AA</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.239</TD><TD>.306</TD><TD>.398</TD><TD>.704</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2025, AAA</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>419</TD><TD>118</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>60</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.282</TD><TD>.332</TD><TD>.465</TD><TD>.797</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2026, AAA</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>498</TD><TD>163</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.327</TD><TD>.381</TD><TD>.480</TD><TD>.861</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Career Postseason Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Total</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Fielding Stats 2028

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Position</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>PO</TD><TD>A</TD><TD>DP</TD><TD>TC</TD><TD>E</TD><TD>PCT</TD><TD>INN</TD><TD>RANGE</TD><TD>PB</TD><TD>RSTA</TD><TD>RTO</TD><TD>RTO%</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>First Base</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>767</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>70</TD><TD>831</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.993</TD><TD>726.2</TD><TD>10.29</TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Player History

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s4>Drafted in 1st round, 1st overall pick, by Tampa Bay in 2025...
Had first career hit on 9/1/2026, off Felix Gonzalez (TOR)...
Hit first career homerun on 9/15/2026, off Nicholas Guerrero (NY)...
Won Player of the Week award on 8/23/2027, hitting .500 with 3 HR, 10 RBI...
Had 5 hits with 1 RBI against New York (A) on 9/4/2027...
Had 5 hits with 2 RBI against Toronto on 4/22/2028...
Was selected to the 2028 Allstar game...
Won Player of the Week award on 7/12/2028, hitting .500 with 2 HR, 5 RBI...
Won Player of the Week award on 7/26/2028, hitting .533 with 0 HR, 8 RBI...
Won Batter of the Month award on 8/1/2028, hitting .406 with 5 HR, 27 RBI...
Won Outstanding Batter in 2028, hitting .362 with 12 HR, 125 RBI...
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

HighandOutside

06-24-2004, 10:18 AM

because OOTP is only worth playing when you compete against human opponents.

Hmm, I enjoy my solo league.

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 10:45 AM

One thing I'm noticing fairly consistently with this patch is that 24/25 is the "magic age" for most big-time power hitters, meaning that even if they hit the bigs at a younger age, that tends to be the first 30-HR year. I've seen a few exceptions, which is good.

Ksyrup

06-24-2004, 10:48 AM

Anyone hit the wall at age 21 like Andruw Jones? :(

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 10:51 AM

Anyone hit the wall at age 21 like Andruw Jones? :(I was thinking the same thing. I haven't seen anyone like him ever in OOTP. Of course, I don't know if there's ever been another player in MLB with a development curve quite like his...

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 10:52 AM

Through 35 seasons, with the release version of the patch....

<TABLE class=overall><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>LEAGUE RECORD BOOK
Saturday, 10/23/2038</TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>League 1 Batting Single Season Records :</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Batting Average : .397, Luis Canales (2011, Detroit)
Homeruns : 73, Juan Ayo (2020, Cleveland)
Runs Batted In : 195, Juan Ayo (2020, Cleveland)
At Bats : 693, Harold Oscar (2018, Chicago (A))
Hits : 249, John Arceniaga (2012, Toronto)
Doubles : 66, Hershel Brauer (2028, Tampa Bay)
Triples : 17, Bernard Dison (2036, Toronto)
Runs : 157, Leon Rojas (2014, Boston)
Bases On Balls : 140, Michal Hakes (2009, Tampa Bay)
Strikeouts : 170, Kevin Cuneo (2028, Baltimore)
Stolen Bases : 78, Bernard Dison (2028, Toronto)
Hitting Streak : 33, John Arceniaga (2012, Toronto)
Rookie AVG : .362, Robert Masuda (2010, New York (A))
Rookie Hits : 221, Robert Masuda (2010, New York (A))
Rookie Homeruns : 48, Bill Morgan (2004, Cleveland)
Rookie RBI : 118, Peter Henry (2004, Cleveland)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>League 1 Pitching Single Season Records :</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>ERA : 2.09, James Guidi (2028, Chicago (A))
Games : 91, Christopher Dansereau (2035, Chicago (A))
Games Started : 37, James Guidi (2036, Chicago (A))
Wins : 23, Ori Konoye (2035, Baltimore)
Losses : 21, Mose Nicola (2032, Baltimore)
Saves : 50, Gabriel Alegria (2029, Chicago (A))
Bases On Balls : 151, John Tong (2024, Tampa Bay)
Strikeouts : 299, James Guidi (2031, Chicago (A))
Rookie Wins : 22, Joseph Baird (2004, Cleveland)
Rookie Saves : 42, Brian Starrett (2004, Detroit)
Rookie K's : 250, David Santillan (2004, Boston)
BB's in one Game: 13, Christopher Dansereau (4/17/2036, Chicago (A))
K's in one Game : 15, John Poulos (9/1/2031, Tampa Bay)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>League 1 Batting Single Game Records :</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>At Bats X-Innings : 10, Jason Murphy (9/13/2017, Chicago (A))
At Bats 9 Innings : 7, Frankie Lurie (9/22/2038, Cleveland)
Hits X-Innings : 6, Jack Ryan (6/9/2038, Detroit)
Hits 9 Innings : 6, Martin Mickelsen (7/23/2038, Toronto)
Doubles : 4, Hershel Brauer (9/19/2034, Tampa Bay)
Triples : 2, Nathan Teal (9/17/2038, Baltimore)
Homeruns : 4, Hershel Brauer (6/17/2030, Tampa Bay)
RBI : 10, Donald Kivett (5/26/2037, Tampa Bay)
Runs : 5, Errol Tucker (9/22/2038, Cleveland)
Stolen Bases : 4, Jonah Marano (5/31/2032, Cleveland)
Bases On Balls : 5, Roy Cramer (5/5/2035, Chicago (A))
Strikeouts : 5, Dwight Rutkowski (8/3/2036, Toronto)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>League 2 Batting Single Season Records :</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Batting Average : .396, Howard Baggs (2016, Houston)
Homeruns : 70, Jeromy McCartney (2009, Cincinnati)
Runs Batted In : 171, Jeromy McCartney (2012, Cincinnati)
At Bats : 719, Lawrence Torain (2015, Florida)
Hits : 234, Abel Aguero (2011, Chicago (N))
Doubles : 62, Christopher Callanan (2004, Philadelphia)
Triples : 19, Lawrence Saine (2022, Florida)
Runs : 166, Murray Connolly (2027, Cincinnati)
Bases On Balls : 166, Bradley Malbon (2027, Florida)
Strikeouts : 168, Wesley Purnell (2034, Philadelphia)
Stolen Bases : 75, Gregorio Godinez (2018, Florida)
Hitting Streak : 37, Floyd Oliveira (2015, Atlanta)
Rookie AVG : .338, Abel Aguero (2006, Chicago (N))
Rookie Hits : 194, Scott Vos (2016, Cincinnati)
Rookie Homeruns : 42, Jay Garcia (2004, Houston)
Rookie RBI : 115, Jay Garcia (2004, Houston)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>League 2 Pitching Single Season Records :</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>ERA : 1.85, Walter Prine (2029, New York (N))
Games : 116, Hugo Plaza (2037, Houston)
Games Started : 38, Gordon Mahmoud (2019, Chicago (N))
Wins : 25, Walter Prine (2030, New York (N))
Losses : 23, Mark Sterrett (2020, Houston)
Saves : 46, Guille Lopez (2011, Cincinnati)
Bases On Balls : 145, John Fleisher (2024, New York (N))
Strikeouts : 293, Walter Prine (2030, New York (N))
Rookie Wins : 19, Mike Santana (2004, Philadelphia)
Rookie Saves : 45, Thomas Vineyard (2004, Atlanta)
Rookie K's : 278, Mike Santana (2004, Philadelphia)
BB's in one Game: 11, Billy Curlee (6/8/2035, Philadelphia)
K's in one Game : 18, Kevin Danek (4/11/2030, Philadelphia)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Lucky Jim

06-24-2004, 10:55 AM

Anyone hit the wall at age 21 like Andruw Jones? :(

Or Ankiel, on the pitching side.

mauchow

06-24-2004, 12:08 PM

How's the head-to-head looking?

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 12:10 PM

How's the head-to-head looking?My understanding is that it is going to be in an update, not a patch.

jbmagic

06-24-2004, 01:10 PM

the minor league free agent seems broken still..

if you have it enabled in league setting and goto salary reports , the report dont show some minor league players listed as "Minor League FA next year"..

but if you have it disabled in league setting and goto salary report in front office, the report will show some minor league player listed as "Minor League FA next year"

Also the ones that says "Minor league Fa next year" on the salary report and you click on there player card or player html card it shows Minor League Free Agency : Not eligible yet... why the player salary report saying he a minor league free agent next year and the player says not eligible?

check this out and you will see..

Also Markus said "Fixed Minor league FA toggle, it was reversed." for patch 6.03. Now that making me wonder if that was really fix too...

Huckleberry

06-24-2004, 01:53 PM

Re: Andruw Jones.

There's another plausible explanation beyond a weird development curve. Birth date.

primelord

06-24-2004, 01:57 PM

Does the patch apply to existing careers? Or do I have to start over?

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 02:02 PM

OK....for those who want to examine player development, long-term stability, stats, etc., I have finished the upload of a 51-season league. It can be found at http://www.younglifenorthlake.com/ootp603

thomamon

06-24-2004, 02:48 PM

Check out this guy:

#42 Edward Layfield, First Base, 26 yrs, Boston
Friday, 10/22/2054
Name :
Nickname :
Birthday :
Age :
Born in :
Height :
Weight :

Position :
Bats :
Throws :
Edward Layfield

11/8/2027
26
USA
6"2
210

First Base
R
R
Desire for Winner :
Loyalty :
Team Leader Skills :
Consistency :
Clutch Performance :
Injury Rating :
Overall Rating :
Minimal
Average
None at all
Good
Normal
Normal
3.0 Stars

Contract & Roster Status
Contract :
Salary :
Signed Through :
Extention :
Years of MLB Service :
MLB Service Days this Year :
Years on 40-Man Roster :
Years of Pro Service :
Rule 5 Draft Eligibility :
Arbitration Eligibility :
Minor League Option Years :
Big League Contract
$ 940,000
2054
$ 940,000 (2054 year(s))
5 Year(s), 119 Days (979 total Days)
172 Day(s)
6 Year(s), 111 Days (1143 total Days)
9 Year(s)
Protected (on 40 Man Roster)
Not eligible
1 Option Year(s) left

Ratings
Batting Contact Gap Power Discipline/Eye Avoid K's
Overall 57 70 62 44 75
Versus LHP 55 70 61 43 74
Versus RHP 58 70 63 44 75
Talent 63 69 58 66 67
Running & Bunting Ratings
Running Speed :
Stealing Ability :
Baserunning Instincts :
Sacrifice Bunt :
Bunt for Hit :
Hitter Type :

31
37
45
2
1
Normal
Fielding Ratings
C : 23 (Range), .985 (Fielding Pct.)
1B : 43 (Range), .986 (Fielding Pct.)
Catcher Arm : 2
Infield Arm : 21
Outfield Arm : 2

Game Log, Last 10 Games
Date Opp. Result AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K Spot
10/7 @DET W 3-0 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 #5
10/8 @DET W 4-3 3 1 1 0 0 1 3 1 0 #5
10/9 @DET W 7-3 5 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 2 #5
10/13 @C( L 5-7 5 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 #5
10/14 @C( W 6-4 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 #4
10/16 C( L 8-12 3 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 #5
10/17 C( L 2-13 4 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 #5
10/18 C( W 16-7 3 3 2 0 0 1 3 3 0 #5
10/20 @C( W 7-6 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 #5
10/21 @C( L 2-5 2 1 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 #5

Batting Stats 2054
Batting G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K AVG OBP SLG OPS TAVG ISO
152 572 195 25 2 23 118 103 56 57 .341 .402 .512 .914 .901 .171
Batting GS PA HP IW CI GDP SH SF TB EBH SB CS SB% RC RC/27
149 635 4 6 0 14 0 3 293 50 2 3 40.0 119.2 8.1
AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SF SH HP AVG OBP SLG OPS
vs. LHP 137 45 5 1 6 23 26 13 7 2 0 1 .328 .386 .511 .897
vs. RHP 435 150 20 1 17 95 77 43 50 1 0 3 .345 .407 .513 .919
Close/Late 60 19 2 0 2 8 5 8 8 0 0 1 .317 .406 .450 .856
Scoring Position 159 61 11 1 4 86 0 25 16 3 0 1 .384 .463 .541 1.004
Pinch Hitting 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .500 .500 1.000
G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K AVG OBP SLG OPS
Home 77 291 100 11 1 9 62 54 32 31 .344 .410 .481 .891
Road 75 281 95 14 1 14 56 49 24 26 .338 .393 .544 .937
This Week 3 8 5 0 0 1 3 4 6 0 .625 .786 1.000 1.786
Last Week 4 14 4 2 0 0 1 5 3 1 .286 .389 .429 .817
March/April 27 102 41 4 0 5 29 23 8 11 .402 .450 .588 1.039
May 25 99 36 2 0 3 18 16 6 8 .364 .406 .475 .880
June 24 90 28 5 0 2 20 21 12 5 .311 .388 .433 .822
July 22 86 20 2 1 6 16 13 8 14 .233 .305 .488 .794
August 28 96 34 6 0 3 18 13 14 12 .354 .432 .510 .943
Sept/Oct 26 99 36 6 1 4 17 17 8 7 .364 .413 .566 .979
Postseason 12 40 14 3 0 3 11 13 11 5 .350 .472 .650 1.122

Career Batting Stats
Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Teams
2048 46 95 25 4 2 1 8 14 8 16 1 0 .263 .320 .379 .699 NY
2049 18 26 7 3 0 0 4 1 0 2 0 0 .269 .269 .385 .654 NY
2050 129 243 68 11 1 3 37 35 15 34 0 0 .280 .322 .370 .692 NY
2051 135 264 89 21 2 2 33 34 15 34 2 0 .337 .373 .455 .827 NY
2052 136 277 84 16 3 8 43 37 11 41 0 2 .303 .330 .469 .799 NY
2053 91 369 102 27 1 6 47 48 20 41 3 1 .276 .314 .404 .717 NY BOS
2054 152 572 195 25 2 23 118 103 56 57 2 3 .341 .402 .512 .914 BOS,L1
Total 707 1846 570 107 11 43 290 272 125 225 8 6 .309 .353 .449 .801

Career Minor League Batting Stats
Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2045, AA 137 552 145 23 2 19 54 75 53 120 6 3 .263 .325 .415 .739
2046, AA 137 521 148 18 3 12 57 47 49 96 9 10 .284 .336 .399 .735
2047, AA 73 273 65 7 1 3 24 28 25 58 4 3 .238 .298 .304 .602
2047, AAA 64 237 63 10 1 2 18 19 24 43 5 3 .266 .331 .342 .673
2048, AAA 19 76 24 6 0 1 13 10 3 14 0 0 .316 .342 .434 .776
2049, AAA 133 518 135 31 0 12 61 65 40 63 6 3 .261 .311 .390 .701

Career Postseason Batting Stats
Year G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2052 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333 .333 .333 .667
2054 12 40 14 3 0 3 11 13 11 5 0 0 .350 .472 .650 1.122
Total 15 43 15 3 0 3 11 13 11 5 0 0 .349 .481 .628 1.109

Fielding Stats 2054
Position G GS PO A DP TC E PCT INN RANGE PB RSTA RTO RTO%
First Base 152 149 1379 99 148 1495 17 .989 1304.0 10.32

Player History
Drafted in 1st round, 3rd overall pick, by New York (N) in 2045...
Had first career hit on 4/19/2048, off Brandon Holladay (HOU)...
Injured on 4/19/2048 with a Inflamed Thigh Muscle, out for 1-2 weeks...
Hit first career homerun on 5/19/2048, off Leonard Philips (PHI)...
Had 5 hits with 6 RBI against Chicago (N) on 4/22/2053...
Traded from New York (N) to Boston on 7/25/2053 (Going to NY: P Jason Groesbeck, C Benny Sanchez. Going to BOS: 1B Edward Layfield)...
Had 5 hits with 0 RBI against Cleveland on 8/31/2053...
Drove in 7 runs against Toronto on 4/30/2054...
Had 5 hits with 3 RBI against Tampa Bay on 5/17/2054...
Had 5 hits with 4 RBI against Chicago (A) on 5/30/2054...
Was selected to the 2054 Allstar game...
Batting Leader Boards Appearances
Doubles
2053 - 27 - 2nd

thomamon

06-24-2004, 02:51 PM

OK, that wasn't as neet as SkyDog's, but he was young when he came up and looks very good!

JonInMiddleGA

06-24-2004, 04:16 PM

Anyone hit the wall at age 21 like Andruw Jones? :(

Eh?

Age 20 = 1 HR/22.17 AB
Age 21 = 1 HR/18.77 AB
Age 22 = 1 HR/22.77 AB
Age 23 = 1 HR/18.22 AB
Age 24 = 1 HR/18.38 AB
Age 25 = 1 HR/16.00 AB
Age 26 = 1 HR/16.52 AB
Age 27 = 1 HR/20.83 AB*
* indicates current partial season

His OPS has been better than age 21 in 3 of the 6 years since then too.

Now maybe you meant "hit the wall" differently than I took the phrase.
When I hear that, I usually associate it not only with the end of progress but also with a subsequent decline. What Jones look like to me is more of a case of "hitting the ceiling", he's been only a bit better than at age 21, but there's not been any sort of sharp decline either.

Ksyrup

06-24-2004, 04:26 PM

Maybe I should have used the term "plateau." I meant it as, he hit the wall and just leveled off.

JonInMiddleGA

06-24-2004, 04:34 PM

Maybe I should have used the term "plateau." I meant it as, he hit the wall and just leveled off.

That works, and I certainly wouldn't argue against it. I was just a little confused (not exactly a unique state for me either ;) ) .

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 04:37 PM

Yeah. I guess I should have clarified as well. I don't recall a player being as good offensively as Andruw at 20/21 who hasn't gotten much better.

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 04:51 PM

Same here, at least the first part.

I'm glad to see that kind of player is possible now. Not that 4000 hit guys should be a common occurrence, but I've simmed about 200 years in several careers, and never saw anyone get beyond 3600.Postscript on this. I'm now up to 2082 on the career that I uploaded in 2054. There is one 4,000-hit guy, and no one has eclipsed 700 homers (although there is a 35-year-old with 649 who looks like a virtual lock, considering he's hit 50+ in each of the last five seasons). Eight guys have 600+. #'s 2-19 in all-time wins have 278 down to 218 wins, but the top pitcher has 359. :eek:

Buccaneer

06-24-2004, 07:02 PM

Sigh. It appears only fast-simmers need to apply.

Much of the talk regarding 6.0-6.02 was focused on waivers, 40-man rosters, trade AI and the like, and then all I see here is focusing on a player 50 years from now?

Playing historical leagues with Lahman (or Ankit) consist of much different player development equations. But common to all solo play, regardless how one does it, is the competitiveness of the AI. That's why I asked.

andy m: That's not true. Go read my 1960s St Louis Cardinals dynasty and see how someone can have great fun playing solo OOTP. It's not as competitive as MP OOTP but it is fun in many other ways - for some.

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 08:28 PM

After 100 years...

1 player with >4,000 hits (4094)
12 with 3,500-3,999

1 player with >800 homers (888)
3 with 700-799 (737, 741, 796)
9 with 600-699

Ksyrup will like this: 4 players with >1,000 SB's! :eek: (1182, 1070, 1007, 1005). The career leader, with 1,182, was somewhat Henderson-esque. He had only four seasons of >20 HR's, but had a career .382 OBP. The game seems to cap SB's by computer players at around 80. This guy had 65 or more 7 different times. He hit the bigs at age 21, played a full season (with 53 SB's) at 22 and (unlike Henderson) hung 'em up when he was still a pretty solid everyday player. He scored 89 runs, stole 40 bases, and won a Gold Glove at age 41 and hung 'em up after that year--the only time in his career that he struck out over 100 times.

I'm leaving the office now. I'll start this career uploading to the same link. It should be up in an hour or so if all goes well.

dawgfan

06-24-2004, 09:35 PM

So have we confirmed the waiver issue is fixed? No more 5-star prospects being waived and then not pulled back when another team claims them?

Ben E Lou

06-24-2004, 09:41 PM

So have we confirmed the waiver issue is fixed? No more 5-star prospects being waived and then not pulled back when another team claims them?As far as I can tell, it is much improved.

The 100-year league update appears to have finished uploading. Have a gander. :)

www.younglifenorthlake.com/ootp603

lynchjm24

06-24-2004, 09:56 PM

As far as I can tell, it is much improved.

The 100-year league update appears to have finished uploading. Have a gander. :)

www.younglifenorthlake.com/ootp603

Look at your number 2 prospect in the league. Tiger Molina. This is what bothers me about the game.

321/425/588 32 home runs in A ball in 2102 3rd year in single A.
I've got an idea, let's send him back for a fourth year...

95 home runs in single A in 4 years and no promotion?

Buccaneer

06-24-2004, 10:07 PM

Nice job with the thread over at OOTPD (and here too).

Fonzie

06-24-2004, 10:53 PM

Here's a completely unrelated question: does anybody know why, in the player's career stats summary, some years include the league abbreviation next to the team abbreviation, and why some years don't? For example (from SkyDog's league):

2031 157 614 185 44 0 10 95 71 45 95 0 0 .301 .349 .422 .771 TB
2032 158 630 203 61 0 26 118 91 45 97 0 1 .322 .367 .543 .910 TB,L1

I see this all the time, and have no idea if it is supposed to mean something or not. I remember this being around back in earlier versions of OOTP as well.

FBPro

06-24-2004, 10:55 PM

Fonzie

06-24-2004, 11:36 PM

It is included when that player makes the all-star team.

Ah! That makes sense. Thanks.

ahbrady

06-25-2004, 12:38 AM

I'm glad you answered that too, FBPro. I've wondered that since I started playing OOTP.

Fonzie

06-25-2004, 12:43 AM

I'm glad you answered that too, FBPro. I've wondered that since I started playing OOTP.

You know, this feature seems like the kind of thing that might best be explained in the documentation that comes with the game. Like in, say, a manual or something.

*cough*

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 07:31 AM

I thought I'd write a little history of the sub-plots in the career of the league's greatest slugger, Jose "The Sheriff" Gonzalez (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp603/r3277.html).

Drafted in 1st round, 2nd overall pick, by Toronto in 2070...Toronto drafts the league's greatest player ever as a 19-year-old second overall, forever sparking debate in New York City, where SS Albert Kamm was drafted 1(1) overall by the Mets. The name "Albert Kamm" appears to be a mere footnote to history, as it can not be found anywhere in the league's rich history--not among team leaders, league leaders, Gold Glove winners, etc. I'll have to check the Almanacs when I get to the office to find out whatever became of "Dat Bum Dey Drafted Insteada Da Sheriff", as Kamm is and forever will be known in Queens.

The Sheriff spends one year in A Ball, and part of another rapidly ascending from AA to AAA to The Show, where he arrives and has a solid half-season at age 20:

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2070, A</TD><TD>137</TD><TD>440</TD><TD>143</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>138</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.325</TD><TD>.481</TD><TD>.539</TD><TD>1.020</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2071, AA</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.235</TD><TD>.422</TD><TD>.441</TD><TD>.863</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2071, AAA</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>174</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.230</TD><TD>.348</TD><TD>.397</TD><TD>.744</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2071</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>292</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.284</TD><TD>.372</TD><TD>.404</TD><TD>.776</TD><TD class=s3_2>TOR</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

From age 21 to 25, he becomes a solid player, his power numbers rising in particular.

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD class=s3>Teams</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2072</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>549</TD><TD>171</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>90</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>101</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.311</TD><TD>.394</TD><TD>.423</TD><TD>.817</TD><TD class=s3>TOR</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2073</TD><TD>153</TD><TD>538</TD><TD>144</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>92</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.268</TD><TD>.375</TD><TD>.353</TD><TD>.728</TD><TD class=s3_2>TOR</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2074</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>583</TD><TD>177</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>86</TD><TD>92</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.304</TD><TD>.393</TD><TD>.425</TD><TD>.819</TD><TD class=s3>TOR</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2075</TD><TD>153</TD><TD>568</TD><TD>163</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.287</TD><TD>.404</TD><TD>.438</TD><TD>.843</TD><TD class=s3_2>TOR</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2076</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>559</TD><TD>149</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>98</TD><TD>100</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.267</TD><TD>.378</TD><TD>.442</TD><TD>.820</TD><TD class=s3>TOR</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

At age 26, (his contract year, of course), he breaks out BIG-TIME, putting up bona-fide superstar numbers!

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2077</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>571</TD><TD>195</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>135</TD><TD>145</TD><TD>123</TD><TD>116</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.342</TD><TD>.458</TD><TD>.692</TD><TD>1.150</TD><TD class=s3_2>TOR,L1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Would this young star stick with the organization that drafted him and nurtured him, and the city that grew to love him, or follow the lure of the almighty dollar? Looks like the choice was easy:

Signed as a free agent by Baltimore on 2/22/2078 to a 5-year deal worth $25,265,300 per year...:eek: $25M when he has only had one superstar season! An outrage! Owners all over the league mock O's owner Cal Ripken IV and GM Quint Ripken (Cal V) for this lavish overspending. The Ripkens rationale is that The Sheriff could be the piece that puts a financially successful franchise over the top on the field. After all, they'd turned nice profits for the previous three seasons:

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD>Year</TD><TD>Wins</TD><TD>Losses</TD><TD>PCT</TD><TD>Pos</TD><TD class=s3>Attendance</TD><TD class=s3>Revenue</TD><TD class=s3>Payroll</TD><TD class=s3>Profit/L</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD>2077</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>.503</TD><TD>1</TD><TD class=s3>3064728</TD><TD class=s3>$89,674,559</TD><TD class=s3>$71,475,647</TD><TD class=s3>$18,198,912</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD>2076</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>91</TD><TD>.438</TD><TD>3</TD><TD class=s3_2>3203269</TD><TD class=s3_2>$88,777,188</TD><TD class=s3_2>$71,917,050</TD><TD class=s3_2>$16,860,138</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD>2075</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>.488</TD><TD>2</TD><TD class=s3>3247779</TD><TD class=s3>$89,390,448</TD><TD class=s3>$72,328,139</TD><TD class=s3>$17,062,309</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD>2074</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>.506</TD><TD>2</TD><TD class=s3_2>3324790</TD><TD class=s3_2>$91,638,106</TD><TD class=s3_2>$93,858,980</TD><TD class=s3_2>$-2,220,874</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Gonzalez, if it is possible, earns every bit of that $25M with his performance, but the O's can't win the big one despite three division titles in the next five years.

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2078</TD><TD>155</TD><TD>556</TD><TD>176</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>142</TD><TD>139</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.317</TD><TD>.427</TD><TD>.725</TD><TD>1.152</TD><TD class=s3>BAL,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2079</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>565</TD><TD>202</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>185</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>95</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.358</TD><TD>.470</TD><TD>.782</TD><TD>1.252</TD><TD class=s3_2>BAL,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2080</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>596</TD><TD>213</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>192</TD><TD>163</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>92</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.357</TD><TD>.461</TD><TD>.829</TD><TD>1.289</TD><TD class=s3>BAL,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2081</TD><TD>142</TD><TD>521</TD><TD>184</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>169</TD><TD>163</TD><TD>124</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.353</TD><TD>.478</TD><TD>.846</TD><TD>1.324</TD><TD class=s3_2>BAL,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2082</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>571</TD><TD>186</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>162</TD><TD>119</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.326</TD><TD>.442</TD><TD>.739</TD><TD>1.181</TD><TD class=s3>BAL,L1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The O's lose in the ALCS to (ironically...) Toronto in both 2079 and 2080. The Sheriff is booed and ridiculed unmercifully in Toronto in 2079 as he struggles to a miserable 2 for 22 (.091) in the ALCS against his former teammates. He redeems himself in 2080, though, hitting .300 with a 1.381 OPS in the ALCS. However, the rest of his team can't do much as they lose again. Finally, in 2081 the O's advance to the World Series after a stirring 4-games-to-3 ALCS over Toronto. However, they fall meekly, 4 games to 1, to the Marlins in the Series. In 2082, the O's miss the playoffs, and Gonzalez has to sit at home and watch Toronto win their third title since he's been gone. (They only made the playoffs once in his seven seasons in Toronto, losing in the '75 Series.) It is too bitter a pill for him to swallow, so after five straight all-star appearances and four MVP's in Baltimore, he decides it is time to move on once again. Signed as a free agent by Montreal on 2/12/2083 to a 6-year deal worth $20,691,000 per year...The Expos were a recently-profitable franchise that appeared to be on the rise:

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD>2082</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>.512</TD><TD>2</TD><TD class=s3_2>2587091</TD><TD class=s3_2>$92,920,339</TD><TD class=s3_2>$79,146,309</TD><TD class=s3_2>$13,774,030</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD>2081</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>.457</TD><TD>3</TD><TD class=s3>2925662</TD><TD class=s3>$96,300,340</TD><TD class=s3>$50,064,556</TD><TD class=s3>$46,235,784</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD>2080</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>.488</TD><TD>2</TD><TD class=s3_2>2938670</TD><TD class=s3_2>$96,639,924</TD><TD class=s3_2>$63,492,506</TD><TD class=s3_2>$33,147,418</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Gonzalez stuck with him through nearly the rest of his career, and was rewarded with two World Championship rings finally, at age 35, and again at 40, while finishing out a career that would give him the best power numbers in the 100-year history of the league:

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2083</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>564</TD><TD>181</TD><TD>26</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>55</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>145</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>98</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.321</TD><TD>.433</TD><TD>.660</TD><TD>1.092</TD><TD class=s3_2>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2084</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>450</TD><TD>136</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.302</TD><TD>.426</TD><TD>.576</TD><TD>1.002</TD><TD class=s3>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2085</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>566</TD><TD>183</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>135</TD><TD>138</TD><TD>116</TD><TD>103</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.323</TD><TD>.438</TD><TD>.705</TD><TD>1.143</TD><TD class=s3_2>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2086</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>566</TD><TD>160</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>132</TD><TD>129</TD><TD>104</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.283</TD><TD>.394</TD><TD>.578</TD><TD>.972</TD><TD class=s3>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2087</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>545</TD><TD>186</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>52</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>123</TD><TD>119</TD><TD>85</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.341</TD><TD>.459</TD><TD>.672</TD><TD>1.131</TD><TD class=s3_2>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2088</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>571</TD><TD>168</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>113</TD><TD>124</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>97</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.294</TD><TD>.410</TD><TD>.588</TD><TD>.998</TD><TD class=s3>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2089</TD><TD>160</TD><TD>578</TD><TD>187</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>133</TD><TD>118</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.324</TD><TD>.438</TD><TD>.561</TD><TD>.999</TD><TD class=s3_2>MON,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2090</TD><TD>156</TD><TD>557</TD><TD>153</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>109</TD><TD>100</TD><TD>102</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.275</TD><TD>.387</TD><TD>.483</TD><TD>.870</TD><TD class=s3>MON</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2091</TD><TD>151</TD><TD>520</TD><TD>149</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>84</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>118</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.287</TD><TD>.390</TD><TD>.473</TD><TD>.863</TD><TD class=s3_2>MON,L2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

As he started to fade in his final season, he got the opportunity to spend some time with old friends and acquaintances in his two former franchises:

<TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2092</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>253</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.253</TD><TD>.337</TD><TD>.304</TD><TD>.641</TD><TD class=s3>MON BAL</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Total</TD><TD>3240</TD><TD>11639</TD><TD>3610</TD><TD>558</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>888</TD><TD>2538</TD><TD>2498</TD><TD>2212</TD><TD>2165</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.310</TD><TD>.420</TD><TD>.589</TD><TD>1.009</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Released by Montreal on 7/12/2092...
Signed as a free agent by Baltimore on 7/19/2092 to a minor league contract...
Released by Baltimore on 4/5/2093...
Signed as a free agent by Toronto on 4/19/2093 to a minor league contract...
Released by Toronto on 5/24/2093...
Retired and inducted to the Hall of Fame in 2094.Thus ends the tale of The Sheriff.

In 30 minutes or so, I'll be at the office computer with the almanacs, and I will chronicle the career of Dat Bum Dey Drafted Insteada Da Sheriff.

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 07:43 AM

So let me get this straight...the guy hits 80 HRs, drives in 192 runs, hits .357...and he still ends up with a smaller OPS than Barry Bonds has this year?! Ironically, Bonds is hitting exactly .357 right now.

Perhaps by the year 2080, baseball will have done away with the intentional walk...

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 07:48 AM

In 30 minutes or so, I'll be at the office computer with the almanacs, and I will chronicle the career of Dat Bum Dey Drafted Insteada Da Sheriff.
I just did a quick search for him on the "players" report - nevermind the league leaders, this guy doesn't even show up as having played in the majors.

You gotta love it!

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:23 AM

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:24 AM

I just did a quick search for him on the "players" report - nevermind the league leaders, this guy doesn't even show up as having played in the majors.

You gotta love it!I *think* the "players" report only shows active players and guys who are on the all-time leader board. We'll know in a few. I'm at the office now. Going to look at the almanacs...

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:29 AM

OK...so Albert Kamm wasn't actually a bum, but it made for a good read, didn't it? ;) Plus, considering how little production the Mets actually got out of him, I'd imagine that despite 300 career homers he was nonetheless STILL known as "Dat Bum Dey Drafted Insteada Da Sheriff"

<TABLE class=overall><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>#7 Albert "Night Train" Kamm, Shortstop, 37 yrs, No Team
Monday, 10/18/2085</TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>file:///c:/progra~1/outoft~1/ootp6~1/graphics/defaultphoto.bmp</TD><TD class=s4>Name :
Nickname :
Birthday :
Age :
Born in :
Height :
Weight :

Position :
Bats :
Throws :
</TD><TD class=s4>Albert Kamm
Night Train
3/3/2048
37
USA
6"2
200

Shortstop
L
R
</TD><TD class=s4>Desire for Winner :
Loyalty :
Team Leader Skills :
Consistency :
Clutch Performance :
Injury Rating :
Overall Rating :
</B></TD><TD class=s4>Minimal
Average
None at all
Very inconsistent
GREAT
Normal
3.0 Stars
</TD><TD class=s4> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Contract & Roster Status

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Contract :
Salary :
Signed Through :
Years of MLB Service :
MLB Service Days this Year :
Years on 40-Man Roster :
Years of Pro Service :
</TD><TD class=s4>Free Agent
-
-
14 Year(s), 47 Days (2455 total Days)
9 Day(s)
15 Year(s), 94 Days (2674 total Days)
16 Year(s)
</TD><TD class=s4> </TD><TD class=s4> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Ratings

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>Contact</TD><TD>Gap</TD><TD>Power</TD><TD>Discipline/Eye</TD><TD>Avoid K's</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Overall</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>35</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Versus LHP</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>88</TD><TD>35</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Versus RHP</TD><TD>56</TD><TD>59</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>100</TD><TD>35</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Talent</TD><TD>57</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>100</TD><TD>37</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Running & Bunting Ratings
Running Speed :
Stealing Ability :
Baserunning Instincts :
Sacrifice Bunt :
Bunt for Hit :
Hitter Type :
</TD><TD class=s4>
60
90
99
1
1
Pull Hitter
</TD><TD class=s4>Fielding Ratings
2B : 72 (Range), .972 (Fielding Pct.)
SS : 80 (Range), .963 (Fielding Pct.)
Catcher Arm : 5
Infield Arm : 73
Outfield Arm : 8
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Game Log, Last 10 Games

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Date</TD><TD>Opp.</TD><TD class=s3> Result</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>Spot</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>4/1</TD><TD>@PHI</TD><TD class=s3_2>L 2-5 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box7.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>4/2</TD><TD>@PHI</TD><TD class=s3>W 6-4 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box15.html)</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>#7</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>4/3</TD><TD>@PHI</TD><TD class=s3_2>W 8-6 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box23.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>4/4</TD><TD>HOU</TD><TD class=s3>W 6-2 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box32.html)</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>4/5</TD><TD>HOU</TD><TD class=s3_2>L 5-6 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box40.html)</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>4/6</TD><TD>HOU</TD><TD class=s3>W 5-2 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box48.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>4/7</TD><TD>HOU</TD><TD class=s3_2>W 4-2 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box56.html)</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>4/8</TD><TD>C(</TD><TD class=s3>L 1-4 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box63.html)</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>4/9</TD><TD>C(</TD><TD class=s3_2>W 8-7 (file:///C:/Program%20Files/Out%20of%20the%20Park%20Developments/OOTP%206/603%2016%20Teams.lg/Almanac/2085.alm/box71.html)</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>#1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Batting Stats 2085

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD>TAVG</TD><TD>ISO</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2> </TD><TD>9</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>.212</TD><TD>.308</TD><TD>.242</TD><TD>.550</TD><TD>.571</TD><TD>.030</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Batting</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>PA</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>IW</TD><TD>CI</TD><TD>GDP</TD><TD>SH</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>TB</TD><TD>EBH</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>SB%</TD><TD>RC</TD><TD>RC/27</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2> </TD><TD>9</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>75.0</TD><TD>3.3</TD><TD>3.1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1></TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SF</TD><TD>SH</TD><TD>HP</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>vs. LHP</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>.500</TD><TD>1.000</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>vs. RHP</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.148</TD><TD>.273</TD><TD>.185</TD><TD>.458</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Close/Late</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.143</TD><TD>.143</TD><TD>.143</TD><TD>.286</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Scoring Position</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.250</TD><TD>.429</TD><TD>.250</TD><TD>.679</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Pinch Hitting</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD><TD>.000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1></TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Home</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.263</TD><TD>.375</TD><TD>.316</TD><TD>.691</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Road</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.143</TD><TD>.200</TD><TD>.143</TD><TD>.343</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>March/April</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>.212</TD><TD>.308</TD><TD>.242</TD><TD>.550</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Career Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD><TD class=s3>Teams</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2069</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.050</TD><TD>.136</TD><TD>.050</TD><TD>.186</TD><TD class=s3_2>NY</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2070</TD><TD>63</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.291</TD><TD>.350</TD><TD>.445</TD><TD>.795</TD><TD class=s3>NY</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2071</TD><TD>135</TD><TD>268</TD><TD>91</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.340</TD><TD>.416</TD><TD>.478</TD><TD>.893</TD><TD class=s3_2>NY</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2072</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>240</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.267</TD><TD>.358</TD><TD>.408</TD><TD>.766</TD><TD class=s3>NY</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2073</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>410</TD><TD>130</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>.317</TD><TD>.418</TD><TD>.576</TD><TD>.993</TD><TD class=s3_2>NY CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2074</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>536</TD><TD>165</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>131</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>.308</TD><TD>.400</TD><TD>.509</TD><TD>.909</TD><TD class=s3>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2075</TD><TD>143</TD><TD>527</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>87</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>110</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>.298</TD><TD>.390</TD><TD>.490</TD><TD>.880</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2076</TD><TD>155</TD><TD>551</TD><TD>164</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>24</TD><TD>105</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>103</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>.298</TD><TD>.408</TD><TD>.497</TD><TD>.906</TD><TD class=s3>CLE,L1</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2077</TD><TD>140</TD><TD>513</TD><TD>165</TD><TD>35</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>108</TD><TD>125</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>116</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.322</TD><TD>.442</TD><TD>.522</TD><TD>.965</TD><TD class=s3_2>CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2078</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>556</TD><TD>171</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>104</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>.308</TD><TD>.417</TD><TD>.536</TD><TD>.953</TD><TD class=s3>CLE</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2079</TD><TD>132</TD><TD>479</TD><TD>147</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>82</TD><TD>70</TD><TD>104</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>.307</TD><TD>.395</TD><TD>.522</TD><TD>.917</TD><TD class=s3_2>CIN</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2080</TD><TD>155</TD><TD>562</TD><TD>189</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>132</TD><TD>116</TD><TD>102</TD><TD>106</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>.336</TD><TD>.438</TD><TD>.587</TD><TD>1.025</TD><TD class=s3>CIN,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2081</TD><TD>154</TD><TD>553</TD><TD>159</TD><TD>29</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>111</TD><TD>96</TD><TD>95</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>.288</TD><TD>.392</TD><TD>.501</TD><TD>.893</TD><TD class=s3_2>CIN</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2082</TD><TD>153</TD><TD>566</TD><TD>182</TD><TD>41</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>135</TD><TD>107</TD><TD>132</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>.322</TD><TD>.429</TD><TD>.572</TD><TD>1.002</TD><TD class=s3>CIN,L2</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2083</TD><TD>157</TD><TD>574</TD><TD>176</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>137</TD><TD>114</TD><TD>136</TD><TD>56</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>.307</TD><TD>.422</TD><TD>.495</TD><TD>.916</TD><TD class=s3_2>CIN</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2084</TD><TD>120</TD><TD>475</TD><TD>112</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>79</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>105</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>.236</TD><TD>.335</TD><TD>.429</TD><TD>.765</TD><TD class=s3>CIN</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2085</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.212</TD><TD>.308</TD><TD>.242</TD><TD>.550</TD><TD class=s3_2>CIN</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Total</TD><TD>2107</TD><TD>6973</TD><TD>2112</TD><TD>398</TD><TD>54</TD><TD>314</TD><TD>1258</TD><TD>1415</TD><TD>1196</TD><TD>1486</TD><TD>563</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>.303</TD><TD>.405</TD><TD>.511</TD><TD>.915</TD><TD class=s3> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Career Minor League Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2069, AA</TD><TD>61</TD><TD>219</TD><TD>58</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>32</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>38</TD><TD>50</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.265</TD><TD>.369</TD><TD>.493</TD><TD>.862</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2069, AAA</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>248</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.274</TD><TD>.382</TD><TD>.460</TD><TD>.842</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2070, AAA</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>220</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>53</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>.323</TD><TD>.436</TD><TD>.541</TD><TD>.977</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2073, AAA</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.273</TD><TD>.429</TD><TD>.364</TD><TD>.792</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Career Postseason Batting Stats

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Year</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>AB</TD><TD>H</TD><TD>2B</TD><TD>3B</TD><TD>HR</TD><TD>RBI</TD><TD>R</TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>K</TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>CS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>OBP</TD><TD>SLG</TD><TD>OPS</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2079</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>.359</TD><TD>.390</TD><TD>.692</TD><TD>1.083</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>2080</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>.211</TD><TD>.400</TD><TD>.316</TD><TD>.716</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>2082</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>.209</TD><TD>.370</TD><TD>.349</TD><TD>.719</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Total</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>101</TD><TD>27</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>19</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.267</TD><TD>.383</TD><TD>.475</TD><TD>.859</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Fielding Stats 2085

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s1>Position</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>PO</TD><TD>A</TD><TD>DP</TD><TD>TC</TD><TD>E</TD><TD>PCT</TD><TD>INN</TD><TD>RANGE</TD><TD>PB</TD><TD>RSTA</TD><TD>RTO</TD><TD>RTO%</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s1_2>Second Base</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>13</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>47</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>.936</TD><TD>80.0</TD><TD>5.29</TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s5>Player History

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s4>Drafted in 1st round, 2nd overall pick, by New York (N) in 2069...
Had first career hit on 6/30/2069, off Lyle Cook (MON)...
Injured on 5/23/2070 with a Strained Elbow Ligament, out for one week...
Hit first career homerun on 8/26/2070, off Johnny Sanborn (CIN)...
Injured on 9/12/2071 with a Strained Back, out for one week...
Traded from New York (N) to Cleveland on 6/4/2073 (Going to CLE: SS Albert Kamm. Going to NY: P Russell Bailey, 3B Todd Young, 1B Adam Davis)...
Won Batter of the Month award on 9/1/2073, hitting .393 with 13 HR, 30 RBI...
Injured on 4/4/2074 with a Inflamed Elbow Ligament, out for one week...
Had 5 hits with 8 RBI against Chicago (A) on 5/26/2074...
Was selected to the 2074 Allstar game...
Won Player of the Week award on 5/31/2075, hitting .500 with 4 HR, 13 RBI...
Injured on 7/31/2075 with a Inflamed Groin Muscle, out for one week...
Drove in 6 runs against Baltimore on 4/30/2076...
Was selected to the 2076 Allstar game...
Drove in 6 runs against Toronto on 6/5/2077...
Injured on 7/24/2077 with a Pulled Calf Muscle, out for 2-3 weeks...
Signed as a free agent by Cincinnati on 2/15/2079 to a 4-year deal worth $19,521,500 per year...
Had 5 hits with 2 RBI against Montreal on 4/17/2079...
Injured on 6/5/2079 with a Pulled Abdominal Muscle, out for 1-2 weeks...
Won Player of the Week award on 6/28/2079, hitting .444 with 4 HR, 7 RBI...
Injured on 8/31/2079 with a Tight Elbow, out for 1-2 weeks...
Was selected to the 2080 Allstar game...
Had 5 hits with 1 RBI against New York (N) on 8/17/2080...
Had 5 hits with 5 RBI against Philadelphia on 4/10/2081...
Was selected to the 2082 Allstar game...
Won Player of the Week award on 7/26/2083, hitting .552 with 4 HR, 9 RBI...
Had 2000th career hit on 4/12/2084, off Chris Dean (FLO)...
Injured on 4/26/2084 with a Tight Shoulder, out for 1-2 weeks...
Injured on 4/9/2085 with a Broken Foot, out for entire career...
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s0><TBODY><TR class=g2><TD class=s5>Batting Leader Boards Appearances</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=empty><TABLE class=s1><TBODY><TR class=g><TD class=s4>AVG
2080 - .336 - 4th
2082 - .322 - 9th
</TD><TD class=s4>OBP
2074 - .400 - 10th
2077 - .442 - 6th
2078 - .417 - 8th
2079 - .395 - 10th
2080 - .438 - 4th
2082 - .429 - 3rd
2083 - .422 - 7th
</TD><TD class=s4>SLG
2078 - .536 - 10th
2080 - .587 - 6th
2082 - .572 - 8th
</TD><TD class=s4>OPS
2077 - .965 - 10th
2078 - .953 - 8th
2080 - 1.025 - 4th
2082 - 1.002 - 5th
2083 - .916 - 8th
</TD><TD class=s4>Hits
2080 - 189 - 10th
</TD></TR><TR class=g2><TD class=s4>Doubles
2079 - 33 - 7th
2080 - 36 - 5th
2082 - 41 - 3rd
</TD><TD class=s4>Triples
2077 - 7 - 6th
</TD><TD class=s4>RBI
2080 - 132 - 4th
2081 - 111 - 10th
2082 - 114 - 9th
</TD><TD class=s4>Runs
2077 - 125 - 10th
2080 - 116 - 7th
2082 - 135 - 2nd
2083 - 137 - 2nd
</TD><TD class=s4>BB
2076 - 103 - 7th
2077 - 111 - 6th
2078 - 104 - 7th
2080 - 102 - 5th
2081 - 95 - 4th
2082 - 107 - 3rd
2083 - 114 - 3rd
</TD></TR><TR class=g><TD class=s4>SB
2074 - 38 - 6th
2075 - 48 - 4th
2076 - 45 - 4th
2077 - 48 - 4th
2078 - 46 - 5th
2079 - 34 - 7th
2080 - 47 - 4th
2081 - 42 - 8th
2082 - 42 - 3rd
2083 - 56 - 1st
2084 - 34 - 5th
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Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 08:35 AM

I *think* the "players" report only shows active players and guys who are on the all-time leader board. We'll know in a few. I'm at the office now. Going to look at the almanacs...
Huh. I don't think I knew that, although it makes sense, given the number of players that would have been accummulated in 100 years vs. the list I was looking at. I've switched to Catobase as my primary almanac now, anyway.

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 08:37 AM

Well, NY deserves some of the criticism...seeing as though they traded him to Cleveland in the midst of his first full and solid season. Not only wasn't he as good as the other guy, but they got rid of him just as he was getting good.

Huckleberry

06-25-2004, 08:40 AM

Hey, they got burned on Da Sheriff. But that Kamm guy wasn't a bad pick. A 1.000 OPS good-fielding shortstop is a nice luxury. Seems worse than drafting him was trading him without knowing about what they got in return.

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:41 AM

jetpunk2000

06-25-2004, 08:48 AM

Unless the player history is wrong, Kamm was drafted the year before. :)

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:50 AM

The Mets REALLY got screwed on that trade. All three guys were decent-looking prospects (2 or 3 stars) in their early 20's at the time of the trade. However, I skipped forward just 10 years, when they all would have been in their early 30's and in The Show. All three were out of baseball by 2083. Ouch!

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:53 AM

Unless the player history is wrong, Kamm was drafted the year before. :)DOH!!!!! I was looking at the wrong year in the league history!!! Wrong 1(1) player. Oops. Lemme find out who was *really* Dat Bum Dey Drafted Insteada Da Sheriff.

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:56 AM

1B Frank Rogers is actually who was drafted, and he DEFINITELY was not a bum. More in a sec...

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 08:58 AM

Scrap that story line. Frank Rogers played his ENTIRE CAREER with the Mets, and racked up 700+ homers. http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp603/r3162.html

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 09:02 AM

Interesting to note: 3 of the top 4 all-time home run hitters played during the same time period. A bit of a lull in pitching during that time?

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 09:03 AM

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Haven't you learned anything from Michael Moore?

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 09:12 AM

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 09:41 AM

Interesting that "Lobster" Rogers was a regular in 2072 and 2073 (winning rookie of the year in 2072 and hitting .320 in 2073), with good, but unspectacular numbers, especially for a first basemen. Still it's somewhat surprising to see that he was demoted to AAA in 2074. What was that, a "wake up call?" It seemed to work, as he started a steady assent upwards in 2075.

Can you tell from the yearly almanac when he was sent down to AAA? I'd be interested to see if he started the year in a slump, got sent down, came back and posted good numbers for the rest of the year, then took off. If so, that's pretty cool. Kinda Ron Gant-like.Actually, you've uncovered what, at this point, is a mystery. Nowhere in the 2073 or 2074 NYN transaction history does it show Rogers being sent down or called up. On 7/9/74, his plate discipline faded, and on 3/2 he displayed poor strike zone judgement in spring training. Those are the only times he is mentioned in player development or transactions for 2074. Just to be sure, I checked to see if for some reason he was sent down after the season in 2073, but there's nothing there either. Odd. :confused: Passing this anomaly on to Markus.

jetpunk2000

06-25-2004, 09:52 AM

Is this disturbing to anyone else, and is it something that has happened all along and I never noticed?

#8 Randy Winn, Centerfield, 31 yrs, Texas Rangers
Sunday, 2/28/2006

Player History
Signed as a free agent by Detroit on 2/25/2006 to a 5-year deal worth $5,296,800 per year...
Traded from Detroit to Texas on 2/25/2006 (Going to DET: RF Richard Hidalgo. Going to TEX: CF Randy Winn, P Paul Cano, P Victor Wellman)...

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 10:06 AM

Yes, it is disturbing that people think that text sims were meant to be played with "real" players.

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 10:10 AM

I did a quick and random search through some of the guys on the career leaders board anddidn't find anyone with quite the same minor league quirk as Rogers. However, these three guys spent a small amount of time in the minors in the middle of their careers. A couple of things about them:

1. I'd like to know whether they actually played in the minors when it says they did, of course.

2. Assuming they did, I think I might have an explanation for what happened. IN each of those years, the player was either traded or released, then picked up by another team. It appears that rather than put them straight on the major league roster, they play a few games inthe minors before being called up. That seems awfully unrealistic for guys in the prime of their career. One guy did hit .218 th year before he was traded, but I still think this may be a function of the AI not immediately recognizing newly-signed/traded-for major leaguers and placing them where they should when the transaction first occurs. Maybe this is something that is not new, I don't know. I kinda stumbled upon it.

3. They most worrisome thing I noticed, from the first guy's card linked below (Viny Saenz), is that in 2046, he won the MVP award with Boston. Fine. But on April 17, 2047, he was released! Two days later, he signed with Chicago, who (presumably) assigned him to AAA, where he played 4 games before being called up.

Unless the storyline is... that he was a hold out with Boston after putting up monster numbers in 2046, and when Boston wouldn't renegotiate the 4-year deal he signed in 2045 and couldn't find an adequate trade partner, they released him; then Chicago immediately pounced on him, signing him to a one-year deal; however, Chicago was concerned that he wasn't in baseball shape (having been a holdout and all), so they sent him to the minors first to get a few ABs before debuting with the big club a week later...

If that's not the story (and for some reason I don't think it is :) ), then that's a problem, beyond the minor league AB thing, don't you think?

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp603/r1675.html (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp603/r1675.html)

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp603/r3276.html

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/ootp603/r2421.html

spleen1015

06-25-2004, 10:14 AM

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 10:23 AM

How was Saenz performing in 2047 before he got released?

In OOTP6, the AI uses ratings, current year stats and the 2 years prior to determine the quality of the player. You can change how these are weighted. The defaults were leading to some really whacky things like this before. This may be the case with Saenz.
So you think he might have gotten off to a .100 start in the first two weeks of the season, and the AI weighed that too heavily?

I use the defaults, except for when I start a new career (since there aren't rpevious year's stats to look at). What do you suggest for those values? I don't have the game here now, but I don't recall the current year stats counting for much more than maybe 30-35%, right? His 2046 season was monster (1.063 OPS, 61 HRs, 168 RBI), but he had a bad year (relatively speaking) in 2045 (.772 OPS, 40 HRs, 109 RBI). Maybe the combo of a bad 2047 start and his 2045 season, combined with a slight drop in ratings (I don't know if that occurred or not, but he was productive for 4 more years, so it couldn't have been that bad a drop) lead to a bad (and very unrealistic) AI decision.

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 10:27 AM

I'll do some Almanac checking in a few minutes. Eating lunch right now. :)

jbmagic

06-25-2004, 10:32 AM

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 10:34 AM

From the little anecdotal evidence I've seen, it appears teams aren't signing guys at the end of their careers to multi-year deals as much as they used to. I see quite a few "signed to minor league contract" entries, where before, guys would suck and continue to get 2-4 year deals, then get released within months of signing, only to have another team fall on the same sword.

But I haven't studied it enough to know whether that perception is real or not.

MizzouRah

06-25-2004, 10:34 AM

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 10:35 AM

Ksyrup

it was recommend by Henry in a post in here before that the following works well...i try it and its works great..Very Realistic...

also i read in here that trade at Low is a good setting too.

here the player Ai Evalation Modifiers

(Rating, current, last yr stats, 2 yr old stats)

April 50%,0%,30%, 20%

May 50%, 5%,30%, 15%

June 50%, 10%, 30%, 10%

July 50%, 15%, 30%, 5%

Aug 50%, 20%, 30%, 0%

Sept 50%, 25%, 25%, 0%
Thanks. You know, I'm not sure I knew we could set it by month. I just change the global settings when I first start a career. I'll have to check that out tonight, as I'm restarting a career I created right when the waiver issue hit on the last patch.

jbmagic

06-25-2004, 10:47 AM

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 10:47 AM

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 10:51 AM

yep...

only thing with those setting you have to sim monthly..

or take those numbers average it out (make sure it adds to 100%)

and make it one setting for all the months when simming season at a time...
Oh, I see. I thought you meant that there were monthly settings we could put in for the whole year. That is problematic for me, at least when simming a history for my leaguyes, because I sim 50-100 years just to get to a point where I'm ready to play.

Marcus needs to allow us to "schedule" those settings month-by-month at the beginning of the year if it makes that much difference.

Ben E Lou

06-25-2004, 10:53 AM

Marcus needs to allow us to "schedule" those settings month-by-month at the beginning of the year if it makes that much difference.That is a *GREAT* suggestion for an update, I'd imagine. Passing that one along. :)

Ksyrup

06-25-2004, 10:56 AM

That is a *GREAT* suggestion for an update, I'd imagine. Passing that one along. :)
Thanks! If we can do it for stuff like Bat Day, why not for things that actually matter? :D

jbmagic

06-25-2004, 10:56 AM

Ugh. There's little/no chance that I'd remember to change that every single month. Methinks I'll go with 50, 10, 30, 10. That should be enough of a change from the 40,35,17,8 default to make a difference. How 'bout we get the defaults changed in the next patch? Considering the "recommended" settings from an OOTP6 representative all have 50% as the ratings weight, at the very least that should be changed.

skydog i agree..i hope the next patch, the default is change..alot of people play with default and it will benifit them to see more realistic..

i also think trade by default should be set to low...seems like that more realistic when comparing how many trades is done in MLB...

jbmagic

06-25-2004, 10:59 AM

Oh, I see. I thought you meant that there were monthly settings we could put in for the whole year. That is problematic for me, at least when simming a history for my leaguyes, because I sim 50-100 years just to get to a point where I'm ready to play.

Marcus needs to allow us to "schedule" those settings month-by-month at the beginning of the year if it makes that much difference.

yep that a great idea..i wish we can set it for every month one time...

in the meantime if you sim yearly , i will go with what skydog said 50%, 10%,30%,10%.....or do an average what i posted above...set it, and then sim away...

MizzouRah

06-25-2004, 01:15 PM

Trading set to low is much better, imo as well.

One thing that really bugs the heck out of me is clicking on a player and having his carrer accomplisments come up instead of his scouting report. We need a toggle so those of us who use little or no ratings, can see the scouting report instead of all the uncessesary clicking.

There is so much about ootp that needs to be documented, I couldn't imagine being new to ootp. Most people probably don't even know that under ERA settings you can change it so the AI values speed or obp when making out lineups. On normal, I hate the way it does it. Now, it seems much better on speedy players setting.

Todd

jbmagic

06-25-2004, 01:26 PM

it seems like when u install patch 6.03 the era setting goes back to normal , so if you choose favor OBP or favor speed, etc u wil have to set it again in era setting...

i wish there was a speed/steal combo button than just favor speed.....it seems like the cpu puts a great speed guy , but terrible on steal ability for leadoff sometimes....

so have either favor speed/steal or favor OBP...

MizzouRah

06-25-2004, 05:18 PM

My settings stayed when I applied the patch, but I use manage mode, so that may be it?

I've noticed some "different" lineups with both settings, but I like speed at the top.

PLEASE change the player card to show scouting reports first. :)

Todd

bigdawg2003

06-25-2004, 10:35 PM

FBPro

06-25-2004, 10:51 PM

Just had a 3.5 star starting pitching prospect placed on waivers by Colorado and lost to Texas. I've also been able to snag 2-3 star prospects with ease off waivers. Looks like this could use some more fixing for the next patch/update

Possibly, but I don't know how much stock to put in "star ratings". Plus, you need to look closer at the players and see if maybe they have been around awhile and their stats bon't back the ratings, etc.

The thought also crosses my mind that if some "ok" players didn't hit the WW from time to time then folks would complain about that....just my nickel.

MizzouRah

06-25-2004, 11:10 PM

I think the star rating also factors in stats, which doesn't explain why they are being released.

Email Markus.

Todd

bigdawg2003

06-25-2004, 11:54 PM

Possibly, but I don't know how much stock to put in "star ratings". Plus, you need to look closer at the players and see if maybe they have been around awhile and their stats bon't back the ratings, etc.

The thought also crosses my mind that if some "ok" players didn't hit the WW from time to time then folks would complain about that....just my nickel.

The pitcher is 24 years old and had made 2 starts for the Rockies before going to Texas. His current ratings are 6/10 in Control, Stuff, and Movement. His stuff talent is 8/10 and movement is 10/10. He's not a bad hitter too, with 6/10 talent in contact, eye, and avoiding Ks. The rest of the Rockies rotation is a bunch of 1 star guys, so not rescinding waivers on this guy is almost ridiculous as putting him on waivers in the first place. This should not be happening.

Ben E Lou

06-26-2004, 05:24 AM

The pitcher is 24 years old and had made 2 starts for the Rockies before going to Texas. His current ratings are 6/10 in Control, Stuff, and Movement. His stuff talent is 8/10 and movement is 10/10. He's not a bad hitter too, with 6/10 talent in contact, eye, and avoiding Ks. The rest of the Rockies rotation is a bunch of 1 star guys, so not rescinding waivers on this guy is almost ridiculous as putting him on waivers in the first place. This should not be happening.What were his stats in the two starts?

bigdawg2003

06-26-2004, 12:03 PM

SD

5 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 7 K
5.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

His overall ERA is inflated by a disastrous relief appearance where he gave up 5 ER in 2 IP, but his 2 starts were both solid

bigdawg2003

06-26-2004, 12:07 PM

DOLA

Well, Texas just put him on waivers after 4 innings of scoreless relief.

Ben E Lou

06-26-2004, 12:09 PM

SD

5 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 7 K
5.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K

His overall ERA is inflated by a disastrous relief appearance where he gave up 5 ER in 2 IP, but his 2 starts were both solidI asked that question because apparently there is a problem with the default settings on how the AI evaluates players in the early-season. A guy with a 5.11 ERA in the early season is a candidate for getting sent down to the minors, and perhaps he was not pulled off of waivers because of that improper evaluation. I am told that 50% of the eval should be ratings, and in the early season, not much at all should be on "this season." I've suggested to Markus to change the defaults in the next patch or update.

MizzouRah

06-26-2004, 01:01 PM

DOLA

Well, Texas just put him on waivers after 4 innings of scoreless relief.

Are you using these settings?

it was recommend by Henry in a post in here before that the following works well...i try it and its works great..Very Realistic...

also i read in here that trade at Low is a good setting too.

here the player Ai Evalation Modifiers

(Rating, current, last yr stats, 2 yr old stats)

April 50%,0%,30%, 20%

May 50%, 5%,30%, 15%

June 50%, 10%, 30%, 10%

July 50%, 15%, 30%, 5%

Aug 50%, 20%, 30%, 0%

Sept 50%, 25%, 25%, 0%

I haven't seen this problem yet with these settings.

Todd

Sweed

06-26-2004, 01:22 PM

Are you using these settings?

it was recommend by Henry in a post in here before that the following works well...i try it and its works great..Very Realistic...

also i read in here that trade at Low is a good setting too.

here the player Ai Evalation Modifiers

(Rating, current, last yr stats, 2 yr old stats)

April 50%,0%,30%, 20%

May 50%, 5%,30%, 15%

June 50%, 10%, 30%, 10%

July 50%, 15%, 30%, 5%

Aug 50%, 20%, 30%, 0%

Sept 50%, 25%, 25%, 0%

I haven't seen this problem yet with these settings.

Todd

Thought I'd jump in and also endorse these settings and the low trade option. Been using them in my solo league and they really do help.

Also wondering bigdawg2003 if you are using scouts? Could be a poor scout is misevaluating the talents of the player in question. I know not as likely now that two teams (pretty good indicator it's the early season current stats evaluation problem) have waived him but something else to look at.

My team scout was just changed. Went from a excellent hitter- legendary pitcher to legendary hitter- excellent pitcher and have seen quite a change in some player evaluations. My legendary hitter scout had my AAA 2b rated at 52 hitting while the excellent said 36 and not quite ready for AAA. So it is possible that it could be part of the cause.

Ben E Lou

06-26-2004, 01:35 PM

My team scout was just changed. Went from a excellent hitter- legendary pitcher to legendary hitter- excellent pitcher and have seen quite a change in some player evaluations. My legendary hitter scout had my AAA 2b rated at 52 hitting while the excellent said 36 and not quite ready for AAA. So it is possible that it could be part of the cause.Ah. I forgot about that. One of the patches greatly increased potential for scout error in young players. That could be a factor here as well.

jbmagic

06-26-2004, 01:59 PM

i think playing with scouts off is better in my opinion

MizzouRah

06-27-2004, 03:35 PM

I'm giving credit when credit is due.

Since the latest patch and the settings posted by jbmagic, ootp v6 is FINALLY playing a great game of ML Baseball. The settings have been a godsend thus far and with trades at LOW, the trades I do see now make ALOT of sense. No big time players or young studs on waivers, etc.

I'm finally having some fun taking the Brewers under my wing and trying to make them contenders. :)

Thanks to all!
(If you've been on the fence about ootp, it's time to buy)

Todd

Eaglesfan27

06-27-2004, 03:53 PM

With the patch and settings suggested, I'm having a great time with a fictional league that started from Skydog's league file in another thread. I also recommend buying this game if you are on the fence. I think the waiver wire and Rule 5 draft definitely are working to limit my dynasty building and making roster management more challenging and realistic.

dawgfan

06-29-2004, 01:47 PM

I meant to ask this sooner but got sidetracked - on the issue of Jose "The Sherriff" Gonzalez, is a guy like this that shatters previous upper limits of historical MLB player performance common, not-so-common, rare, extremely rare, never-seen-before?

I admit his career makes me question the OOTP engine a bit - this guy not only passed all previous HR records, he shattered them. His stretch from 2078-2082 is way beyond anything ever accomplished in real MLB history. Sammy Sosa is the only guy to ever post 3 seasons of 60+ HR in a career, and he never topped 66. This guy posts 5 straight seasons of 67+ HR, topped by 80 HR in 2080, and had an additional year at 63 HR a few years later to make 6 seasons of 60+ HR. His HR total of 888 is nearly 18% higher than Hank Aaron's record of 755. Even with the high HR rates in baseball from the late-'80's on, only A-Rod has a realistic shot at approaching 800 HR.

If this guy is a real rarity, something rarely seen in anyone's extended sim-history almanacs, I can live with it. If it's somewhat common though, I'll be disappointed.

Ben E Lou

06-29-2004, 01:57 PM

Even with the high HR rates in baseball from the late-'80's on, only A-Rod has a realistic shot at approaching 800 HR.I think herein lies the key. I simmed this entire career (100 seasons) with modern-day settings. If there's one guy in 15ish years who has a shot at approaching 800, then it would be reasonable if 6-7 guys in 100 years have a shot at it, correct? As it turns out, he's the only guy in 100 years to top 800 homers, and only three others made it past 700. I'd say that's pretty solid. I really like that the engine creates these rare guys lke this, but keep in mind that they are rare--rare enough that there isn't always even anyone in the league who can put up the big numbers. In the last three seasons of my 6.03 Dynasty, the major league home run leaders have had the following totals:

2021: 47
2022: 46
2023: 51

That's nice to see, along with the likelihood that once every generation or so some stud will come along and hit 55-65 homers a few times. It spices the game up, imho.

Here's a link to the career leader board for the 100-year career: http://www.younglifenorthlake.com/ootp603/cleaders.html

dawgfan

06-29-2004, 02:03 PM

jbmagic

06-29-2004, 02:07 PM

hi all

are you guys seeing problems in the player salary report for minor league free agents...

on my test i seeing in the salary report , that it shows some minor league players as minor league free agent, but when i proceed to next season there still on my team.....

either the salary report is giving false infomation or the minor league free agent not working...

thanks

MizzouRah

06-29-2004, 04:34 PM

Have you looked on your roster, then sorted by ALL and Salary info?

Sounds like you're looking at the html page, which might not work properly.

Todd

jbmagic

06-29-2004, 08:36 PM

Have you looked on your roster, then sorted by ALL and Salary info?

Sounds like you're looking at the html page, which might not work properly.

Todd

yes i look there also...also gives false info there too...

so i not sure if the roster sorted (by all and salary info) and the front office Player Salary report (html) is giving the correct info or the minor league free agent is broken....

try it and proceed to next season and u will see that minor free agent next season that show up on the roster and salary report will not be a free agent..

lynchjm24

06-29-2004, 08:54 PM

That's somewhat reassuring. Yes, A-Rod has a shot at 800 HR, but this guy got almost 900 HR, and did so with twice as many 60+ HR totals as any other player in MLB history and easily beating Bonds' single season record with 80 HR. A-Rod may end up the career HR leader, but he's never topped 57 HR in a season - if he gets there it will be due to staying healthy and keeping very consistent.

My view is that any performance that goes beyond existing established limits should be exceedingly rare, but I suppose others may not agree.

What if Babe Ruth had played at Coors Field? How about Mickey Mantle in Bank One Ballpark?

If the last 120 years of baseball had been played under the conditions that Sosa and Bonds had played under they would be chasing a number much higher then 755.

dawgfan

06-29-2004, 10:50 PM

What if Babe Ruth had played at Coors Field? How about Mickey Mantle in Bank One Ballpark?

If Ruth had played anywhere in Colorado during his career, yeah the record would be probably pushing 800 or more. That said, the guy in SkyDog's simmed dynasty wasn't playing in bandboxes like those.

If the last 120 years of baseball had been played under the conditions that Sosa and Bonds had played under they would be chasing a number much higher then 755.

Hmmm, to the extent that ballparks and bats have changed, I agree. Let's not forget though that there were bandboxes in Ruth's era as well though. Additionally, do you really think that Ruth was in superior physical condition to Bonds or Sosa? At best I think Ruth had equivalent strike zone judgement to Bonds, possibly superior hand:eye coordination, probably inferior physical conditioning. He certainly didn't face the same kind of pitching strategies, with fresh bullpen arms being brought out on a regular basis from the 7th inning on.