MNF: Minnesota @ Philadelphia

[cthomer5000]

Let the battle of jackass receivers begin!

[cthomer5000]

Because I have a hard time watching MNF without money on it, I took the over (despite it being quite high at 51).

[Buccaneer]

Do you think that Moss and Owens could somehow have a head-on collision on the field and get them both out of football forever? Special teams maybe?

[cthomer5000]

I'm going to post with reckless abandon here. I really hate the virtual huge screen thing that they place on the field when the teams first come out of the tunnels. It just looks cheesy and needless. I've always gotten pumped enough just hearing the MNF intro music, seeing the aerial views of the stadium, and seeing the players under the lights.

[cthomer5000]

Do you think that Moss and Owens could somehow have a head-on collision on the field and get them both out of football forever? Special teams maybe?
I think an onsides kick situation where they are both on the 'hands' team is your only hope Bucc.

[cthomer5000]

mort!

[mckerney]

Why the hell was Elling brought back as a kickoff specialist?

[cthomer5000]

Why the hell was Elling brought back as a kickoff specialist?
To keep the other team from starting at their 40 on every posession?

[mckerney]

To keep the other team from starting at their 40 on every posession?

Not very effective when he can't kick past the 15 with consistency. I understand bringing someone in to do it, but Elling's never been very good at kicking off.

[JAG]

Westbrook looks like Barry Sanders out there!

[cthomer5000]

BRian Westbrook reminds John Madden of Walter Payton.

[cthomer5000]

R-U rah rah, R-U rah har, hoo-rah, hoo-rah, Rutgers rah!

[kingfc22]

BRian Westbrook reminds John Madden of Walter Payton.
John Madden - one of the most annoying announcers around if not the MOST. Half the crap he says is just stupid.

[cthomer5000]

I'm grateful for the fact that Madden clarified the difference between a reverse and an end-around. Almost all broadcasters call everything where a WR touches the ball a reverse.

[sovereignstar]

Like Black-Eyed Peas would ask, Where Is the Defense?

[sovereignstar]

John Madden reminds me of a heavier Tim McCarver.

[cthomer5000]

John Madden - one of the most annoying announcers around if not the MOST. Half the crap he says is just stupid.
well, he was actually comparing one specific move Westbrook made, and he was compltely correct with the comparison.

Madden is usually a little too 'boom! bam! turducken!,' but when he calms down for a minute and actually talks football he makes some oustanding observations and does a great job explaining plays/schemes/the game in general.

[cthomer5000]

"This is when you want to get your roll on." - John Madden

[cthomer5000]

[guy betting the over] get in the f******* endzone! [/guy betting the over]

[Buccaneer]

Like Black-Eyed Peas would ask, Where Is the Defense?
ABC asked the teams to go real light on defense tonight because of needed ratings.

[sovereignstar]

Go for it you pussies. You just lost the game.

[cthomer5000]

Go for it you pussies. You just lost the game.
I can see going for it, but there is no way they just lost the game by kicking the field goal.

[sovereignstar]

I can see going for it, but there is no way they just lost the game by kicking the field goal.
Maybe a little brash, but come on - let's take a risk and send the right message.

[mckerney]

Go for it you pussies. You just lost the game.

Maybe they were thinking bad to Arizona.

Maybe a little brash, but come on - let's take a risk and send the right message.

They lost 'sending the right message' last time.

[sovereignstar]

Well gosh, I hope all of Andy Reid's kids can get a good education.
:rolleyes:

[mckerney]

Great play by Russell to get it before it went out.

[mckerney]

And that's the 2nd time this year Smith has dropped a handoff this year.

[sovereignstar]

Let me preface this 4th down by saying - GO FOR IT YOU PUSSIES!

[sovereignstar]

thnx

[sabotai]

Minnesota gets a great 4th down conversion and then Culpepper fumbles on the goalline.

[cthomer5000]

nice work, Daunte.

[sovereignstar]

Excuse me while I cry a river.

[Maple Leafs]

Just tuning in now... I must have missed a ton of memorable plays by Owens and Moss, right?

[Joe]

good to see culpepper is still fumbling away games

[sovereignstar]

A backfield consisting of Culpepper and Ahman Green would be lethal..in a literal sense.

[wheels]

How can a guy who is 6-4, 264 lbs have such a big problem gripping a football?? The guy is larger than many linebackers, he handles the ball all the time, can throw it a mile, yet . . .

[cthomer5000]

A backfield consisting of Culpepper and Ahman Green would be lethal..in a literal sense.
I think Tiki Barber would be the first team RB there.

[sovereignstar]

How can a guy who is 6-4, 264 lbs have such a big problem gripping a football?? The guy is larger than many linebackers, he handles the ball all the time, can throw it a mile, yet . . . Supposedly he has pretty small hands for his size.

Edit: Please no comments concerning the size of his wang http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[MikeVic]

A backfield consisting of Culpepper and Ahman Green would be lethal..in a literal sense.

Alstott as FB?

edit: looks like I was beaten to the punch about Barber. :)

[stevew]

Supposedly he has pretty small hands for his size.



I cant believe he can throw a tight spiral with small hands.

[gottimd]

Gotta love Parlaying the under at this point! Go Eagles. I'm not a fan, just got some money on them.

[Router Help]

I like Tice's comment during the halftime show about Hovan. "I don't think calling Chris out in front of the team is a good way to reach him."

Maybe not coach, but I'm sure calling him out on national TV will work just fine. :D

[sabotai]

COOL! Alanis to kick off the second half...because when I think Alanis, I think football....

[cthomer5000]

interesting, I wasn't aware of this rule.

[sabotai]

Me neither. Interesting rule. Wonder what was the reasoning for it.

[tucker rocky]

Stuttering Bill Cirollo. :D

[sabotai]

That was funny as hell.

"However, the QB was an ine...in...snap..."

[cthomer5000]

Me neither. Interesting rule. Wonder what was the reasoning for it.
same here, I can't see why there would be a disctinction for shotgun vs. under center. It seems like either the QB should be a legal receiver, or he should not be.

[tucker rocky]

Flu...flu...ster...ing..:D

[kingfc22]

How much did the old guy falling play into that call? Didn't seem like the flag was thrown until there were like 4 or 5 guys around the guy on the ground.

[sabotai]

Good hands Moss.

[sovereignstar]

How much did the old guy falling play into that call? Didn't seem like the flag was thrown until there were like 4 or 5 guys around the guy on the ground.
ridiculous

[cthomer5000]

trot out Mr. Andersen again please.

[gottimd]

M Andersen may turn into sand soon he is so damn old.

[cthomer5000]

wow, that's a bizzare fact.

for those not watching or who didn't catch it: Morten Andersen has been wearning Ken Stabler's old shoulder pads since 1985.

[sovereignstar]

You can't stop Jermaine Wiggins. You can only hope to contain him.

[sabotai]

Minnesota is just shooting themsevles over and over gain...

[cthomer5000]

You can't stop Jermaine Wiggins. You can only hope to contain him.
FWIW, doesn't he hold the record for most receptions in a playoff game? I don't think many Patriots fans will ever forget his effort in the 'snow bowl.'

I will of course remember him for his Jet days. I beleive he caught a TD in the epic Monday Night comeback against the Dolphins.

[sovereignstar]

Talk about shooting yourself in the fucking foot on every single drive..
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif

[sovereignstar]

trot out Mr. Andersen again please.
the cue

[sovereignstar]

This is the one he'll miss.

[sovereignstar]

T.O. just made Winfield his bitch.

[sovereignstar]

Barring the Vikings getting the chance to kick 10 more field goals, I think this one may be over.

[Dutch]

Errrr, ref error, that was no TD....still counts for 6, however.

[cthomer5000]

Errrr, ref error, that was no TD....still counts for 6, however.
It looked to me like he was clearly bobbling it while on his back... odd call.

edit: replay makes it crystal clear, no way was that a catch.

[sabotai]

Yeah, he bit good on that move Ownes put on him. Unless the Culpepper-Moss starts, it's over...

Uh-Oh...looks like they got away with one. Not a catch.

[Bearcat729]

My fantasy team is doing great this week thanks to McNabb and Owens

[sovereignstar]

Tice is funny. Look at him throwing the flag on this.

[sovereignstar]

Can anyone recommend a good movie to watch?

[sovereignstar]

I'm confused. Did Morten Andersen just kick a 7-point field goal, cuz..

[duckman]

Can anyone recommend a good movie to watch?
Any Given Sunday? ;)

[cthomer5000]

just curious, what are people's stances on the going for 2 now vs. later?

I think delaying the 2 point conversion is simply a 'keep hope alive' move, and doesn't have any real strategic advantage.

To me, it seems like it'd be better to go for 2 first, so that you have more information available about what you need to do to win or tie the game. for example: shit, we missed it, and now we need to score two more time. let's kick it onside.

[cthomer5000]

If I'm the Eagles I think I punt here and take my chances. Not only do they have to get into your endzone, they also have to get the 2 point conversion.

[cthomer5000]

...or you make the kick and cement the win.

[sovereignstar]

What it must feel like to have a good kicker.

[stevew]

just curious, what are people's stances on the going for 2 now vs. later?

I think delaying the 2 point conversion is simply a 'keep hope alive' move, and doesn't have any real strategic advantage.

To me, it seems like it'd be better to go for 2 first, so that you have more information available about what you need to do to win or tie the game. for example: shit, we missed it, and now we need to score two more time. let's kick it onside.

I agree. Go for it now. If you get it, you only need a td. If you dont, you are down by 2 scores, and you can conceivably kick a fieldgoal if you have to on the next possesion.

[Ryche]

Rough game, Philly was definitely the better team.

[sovereignstar]

Rough game, Philly was definitely the better team.
Aye. I'd put the majority of the blame on the O-Line. Culpepper was never given the time to throw the ball downfield (and accurately at that).

I hope Tice rips them a new one.

[mckerney]

Aye. I'd put the majority of the blame on the O-Line. Culpepper was never given the time to throw the ball downfield (and accurately at that).

I hope Tice rips them a new one.

Not having Kleinsasser hurt a lot as well. Owens and Wiggins couldn't get the job done against the blitz, nor did they did the Vikes have any luck running without him.