A trickier puzzle

[WSUCougar]

Listed alphabetically below are some clues. This is a two-part puzzle.
1. Separate the answers to the clues into their proper eight categories
2. Six clues are unique – why? Which ones?

Adults, children, and clean clothing
Almost four dozen horses
Army ranchers
Barely, oh my!
Bay of communists
Beer and hot dogs
Big but sinkable
Big diggers
Bucking range
Champion cherry tree choppers
Country peanuts
CrO’s
Double trouble
Fish or mammal?
Ford warriors
Head face cards
Large and urban
Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn
Native earthtones
Nice cars
Not mares or turkeys
Papal origins and sheep
Paul, Pat, and Nick
Red-suited rattles
Remember the high-reachers
Sporting marauders
TD was one, only different
They both steal
They give you the willies
Union aircraft
Visa brothers

[cuervo72]

Hmm, for a moment I thought these might be NFL teams, but there are only 31 of them;

Paul, Pat, and Nick - these could all be Saints ?
Native Earthtones - Browns ?
Remember the high-reachers - Titans ?
Fish or mammal - Dolphins ?

Eight categories *could* be the divisions, but that would be 25 for only 8 categories. Maybe there are some baseball teams?

Double trouble - Twins ??

edit: "Native" earthtones could also be Redskins, I guess...maybe more appropriately.

[cuervo72]

"Large and urban" could be the NYG...

[rkmsuf]

"Large and urban" could be the NYG...

Fat Albert?

[moriarty]

Lucy Kinsella's price of corn refers to Field of Dreams. Could be a ball field.

$1 per ear .... or Buck an ear ... Buccanears.

[QuikSand]

Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn - Buccaneer(s)?

[QuikSand]

I hate this ordering thing.

[QuikSand]

Head face cards - Jacksonville

I think it's pointing toward Vikings, actually. Don't knwo how to get the VI, but that's probably it.

[rlfreeze]

Lucy Kinsella's price of corn refers to Field of Dreams. Could be a ball field.

[QuikSand]

CrO’s -- Ravens?

[moriarty]

Head face cards - Jacksonville

I think "nice cars" = Jaguars

[QuikSand]

Maybe the six unique clues are team names that appear in more than one sport: Giants, Cardinals, etc.

[QuikSand]

Nice cars = Jaguars

[rlfreeze]

Maybe has something to do with College Football teams? The top 25 teams? The 6 left over are teams not in the rankings? Not sure.

[rlfreeze]

Head face cards - Jacksonville

[QuikSand]

Well, if some of these are city references... (I'm still unconvinced)

Big diggers = Boston?

[cuervo72]

They give you the willies - Bills?

[KWhit]

Beer and hot dogs - Milwaukee (Brewers) ?

[moriarty]

Papal origins = Cardinals, but sheep??

[KWhit]

Champion cherry tree choppers - Washington

[KWhit]

They both steal - Steelers?

[QuikSand]

Almost four dozen horses - I want this to be 49ers, but can't make it work...

[QuikSand]

Bucking range

-This seems like it might be a dual clue -- maybe to the Broncos and Rockies?

[QuikSand]

Papal origins and sheep

...and this sounds like a dual clue also, to two teams in the same city -- Cardinals and Rams

[rlfreeze]

Ford warriors- Could refer to Detroit Lions. Waiting for Quiksand to correct me. :)

[moriarty]

Bengals and Reds

Bay & Communists

[QuikSand]

Bay of communists

-sounds like it might be "Reds" - but I don't know what to do with the first part

[QuikSand]

Bengals and Reds

Bay & Communists

Good catch, thanks.

[QuikSand]

Sporting marauders - Athletics and Raiders, both from Oakland

[WSUCougar]

Should I post correct answers at the top or let you guys hash them out?

[moriarty]

Double Trouble = Twins & Vikings

[cuervo72]

Red suited and rattles could be Arizona (Cardinals, Diamondbacks)

[moriarty]

Dola..

Indianapolis
Kansas City

What about New Orleans?

[QuikSand]

Breaking into tentative categories:

TWO TEAMS IN ONE CITY - NFL and MLB
Bay of communists = Bengals and Reds
Bucking range = Broncos and Rockies
Papal origins and sheep = Cardinals and Rams
Sporting marauders = Athletics and Raiders
Native earthtones = Indians and Browns
Not mares or turkeys = Colts and Orioles (...this just in, the Colts moved)
Red-suited rattles = Cardinals and Diamondbacks

NFL FOOTBALL MASCOTS
Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints
Nice cars = Jaguars
Fish or mammal? = Dolphins
They both steal = Steelers
Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn = Buccaneers

CITY REFERENCES
Big diggers = Boston
Champion cherry tree choppers = Washington
Beer and hot dogs = Milwaukee



Adults, children, and clean clothing
Almost four dozen horses
Army ranchers
Barely, oh my!
Big but sinkable
Country peanuts
CrO’s
Double trouble
Ford warriors
Head face cards
Large and urban
Remember the high-reachers
TD was one, only different
They give you the willies
Union aircraft
Visa brothers

[primelord]

Not mares or turkeys - Colts and Orioles?

[QuikSand]

Should I post correct answers at the top or let you guys hash them out?

Stay out of our way, punk!

[cuervo72]

Not mares or turkeys - Colts and Orioles?

Phillies and Eagles (the whole Ben Franklin turkey/national bird thing)

[WSUCougar]

I find it hilarious that digamma considers Kansas City not to have a MLB franchise!

[digamma]

There are 31 NFL cities--which would match the 31 clues (as opposed to the 32 teams).

Native Earthtones = Indians & Browns

Maybe the six are six NFL cities without MLB franchises? Green Bay, Jacksonville, Carolina, and now I'm blanking (I don't think we can count Washington anymore).

[dacman]

Boy, the Royals really do get no respect. :P

[cuervo72]

Kansas City has a team.

Head (Chief) Face Cards (Royals)?

[dacman]

Oh, dear god, I'm an out-of-post-order instigator. :(

[cuervo72]

BTW, "Fish or Mammal" could also include the Florida Marlins, I suppose.

[dacman]

Test

edit -- jeez I post this at 2:56 (supposidly) after a post at 3:02.

[digamma]

Dola..

Indianapolis
Kansas City

[cuervo72]

Large and Urban - Giants & Mets (National)
Union Aircraft - Yankees & Jets (American)

[QuikSand]

Big but sinkable -- to me, this sounds like a "Titanic" reference (aka Titans) but I can't figure out the other clue that seems to point there...

[digamma]

And New Orleans

[RPI-Fan]

There are 31 NFL cities--which would match the 31 clues (as opposed to the 32 teams).

Native Earthtones = Indians & Browns

Maybe the six are six NFL cities without MLB franchises? Green Bay, Jacksonville, Carolina, and now I'm blanking (I don't think we can count Washington anymore).

New Orleans, Dallas...

[QuikSand]

(For page two convenience)

Breaking into tentative categories:

TWO TEAMS IN ONE CITY - NFL and MLB
Bay of communists = Bengals and Reds
Bucking range = Broncos and Rockies
Papal origins and sheep = Cardinals and Rams
Sporting marauders = Athletics and Raiders
Native earthtones = Indians and Browns
Not mares or turkeys = Colts and Orioles (...this just in, the Colts moved)
Red-suited rattles = Cardinals and Diamondbacks

NFL FOOTBALL MASCOTS
Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints
Nice cars = Jaguars
Fish or mammal? = Dolphins
They both steal = Steelers
Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn = Buccaneers

CITY REFERENCES
Big diggers = Boston
Champion cherry tree choppers = Washington
Beer and hot dogs = Milwaukee



Adults, children, and clean clothing
Almost four dozen horses
Army ranchers
Barely, oh my!
Big but sinkable
Country peanuts
CrO’s
Double trouble
Ford warriors
Head face cards
Large and urban
Remember the high-reachers
TD was one, only different
They give you the willies
Union aircraft
Visa brothers

[WSUCougar]

You have to read this thread from the bottom up...it's like some ancient Dolamitian language.

[QuikSand]

Breaking into tentative categories:

TWO TEAMS IN ONE CITY - NFL and MLB
Bay of communists = Bengals and Reds
Bucking range = Broncos and Rockies
Papal origins and sheep = Cardinals and Rams
Sporting marauders = Athletics and Raiders
Native earthtones = Indians and Browns
Not mares or turkeys = Phillies and Eagles
Red-suited rattles = Cardinals and Diamondbacks
Large and urban = Giants and Mets
Union aircraft = Yankees and Jets
They both steal = Steelers and Pirates
Army ranchers = Rangers and Cowboys
Visa brothers(fathers) = Chargers and Padres
Double trouble = Vikings and Twins
Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn = Buccaneers and (Devil) Rays
CrO’s = Ravens and Orioles



NFL FOOTBALL MASCOTS
Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints
Nice cars = Jaguars
Fish or mammal? = Dolphins
TD was one, only different = Panthers
Remember the high-reachers = Titans

CITY REFERENCES
Big diggers = Boston
Champion cherry tree choppers = Washington
Beer and hot dogs = Milwaukee



Adults, children, and clean clothing
Almost four dozen horses
Barely, oh my!
Big but sinkable
Country peanuts
Ford warriors
Head face cards
They give you the willies

[cuervo72]

TD was one, only different - Panthers (Tony Dorsett and Pitt)

also, the Titans should be in that single category (high reachers)

[RPI-Fan]

Dola..

Indianapolis
Kansas City

Kansas City has a team.

[moriarty]

They both Steal = Steelers & Pirates

[cuervo72]

Army Ranchers *could* be dallas (Rangers, Cowboys)

[WSUCougar]

Aaahhhh, go play some reindeer games or something!!!:D
Are you kidding? Between the commentary and the post-order thingy, this thread is hilarious. :D

[cuervo72]

I would say CrO's is Baltimore, with Crows = Ravens (as has been said) and O's = Orioles (embedded in the clue)

[moriarty]

They both steal can be Steelers and Pirates.

Beat ya' ... at least I think.

[digamma]

Kansas City has a team.
Some would disagree, but we'll count 'em. ;)

[cuervo72]

Duh...Visa Brothers is San Diego (Chargers, Padres). Should be Visa Fathers really.

[primelord]

Phillies and Eagles (the whole Ben Franklin turkey/national bird thing)
Yes that makes far more sense. Especially considering I was thinking that the Colts were in Baltimore. It has been awhile since that was the case. :)

[digamma]

I find it hilarious that digamma considers Kansas City not to have a MLB franchise!
Aaahhhh, go play some reindeer games or something!!!:D

[digamma]

They both steal can be Steelers and Pirates.

[moriarty]

I still think Double Trouble = Vikings & Twins

[digamma]

Lucy Kinsella's husband in the movie was Ray, so that could give us D-Rays and Buccaneers.

[digamma]

Beat ya' ... at least I think.
*Throws red flag onto field.*

[QuikSand]

Posted above, in case you missed them:

Large and urban = Giants and Mets
Union aircraft = Yankees and Jets

[QuikSand]

Fresh update (with my best guesses on what's "official" so far):

TWO TEAMS IN ONE CITY - NFL and MLB
Bay of communists = Bengals and Reds
Bucking range = Broncos and Rockies
Papal origins and sheep = Cardinals and Rams
Sporting marauders = Athletics and Raiders
Native earthtones = Indians and Browns
Not mares or turkeys = Phillies and Eagles
Red-suited rattles = Cardinals and Diamondbacks
Large and urban = Giants and Mets
Union aircraft = Yankees and Jets
They both steal = Steelers and Pirates
Army ranchers = Rangers and Cowboys
Visa brothers(fathers) = Chargers and Padres
Double trouble = Vikings and Twins
Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn = Buccaneers and (Devil) Rays
CrO’s = Ravens and Orioles
Barely, oh my! = Lions and Tigers
Adults, children, and clean clothing = Bears, Cubs, and White Sox (unique!)
Head face cards = Chiefs and Royals
Fish or mammal? = Marlins and Dolphins
Ford warriors = Falcons and Braves
Big diggers = Giants and 49ers


NFL FOOTBALL MASCOTS
Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints
Nice cars = Jaguars
TD was one, only different = Panthers
Remember the high-reachers = Titans
They give you the willies = Bills


CITY REFERENCES
Champion cherry tree choppers = Washington
Beer and hot dogs = Milwaukee




Almost four dozen horses
Big but sinkable
Country peanuts

[QuikSand]

Barely, oh my! = Lions and Tigers

[cuervo72]

I still think "They give you the willies" is the Bills, and they would be in the NFL-only camp.

Also, I'll re-submit "Head Face Cards" as Chiefs/Royals, "Fish or Mammal" as Marlins/Dolphins (they both play in Miami).

New: Adults, children, and clean clothing - Bears, Cubs, and White Sox.

[QuikSand]

Adults, children, and clean clothing = Bears, Cubs, and White Sox (unique!)

[cuervo72]

Hmm, "Ford warriors" *could* be Atlanta, with the Ford Falcon and the Braves.

[QuikSand]

I'm moving Miami:

Fish or mammal? = Marlins and Dolphins

[QuikSand]

What about Seattle... Mariners and Seahawks, I got nothing.

[cuervo72]

Big diggers may also be San Francisco - big = Giants, diggers = 49ers.

[QuikSand]

I have a meeting in a few minutes. *sigh*

[cuervo72]

If I didn't know any better, I'd say "almost four dozen horses" would be the Colt '45s, but they are now the Astros.

[QuikSand]

Houston - Astros and Texans. Nothing there, either, that I see.

[QuikSand]

If I didn't know any better, I'd say "almost four dozen horses" would be the Colt '45s, but they are now the Astros.

That's really good.

[moriarty]

Beer & hotdogs = Brewers & Packers (as in meat processers) ... maybe??

[RPI-Fan]

What about Seattle... Mariners and Seahawks, I got nothing.

It seems to me like "Big but sinkable" would fit in here, with the boating/water thing, but I'm not sure how.

[cuervo72]

ehh, now I'm guessing that "Country peanuts" = Nationals & Redskins (redskin peanuts? Yes?)

[moriarty]

ehh, now I'm guessing that "Country peanuts" = Nationals & Redskins (redskin peanuts? Yes?)

dang. Nice job.

[cuervo72]

If champion/cherry tree is not Washington the city, maybe it was Washington the Patriot, with the Champion Red Sox. A reach, but don't know if anything else fits.

Also, the Colts are the only other city I can think of that doesn't have a baseball team (if you group Green Bay/Milwaukee - which does make sense for beer/hot dogs - and Boston/New England). So maybe the Colt '45s is pointing to the Colts? Dunno.

[cuervo72]

Anyone know when this issue will be correct? Or if?

Good question...considering your post time was 3:49, and the forum said it was 3:44....no clue.

[rlfreeze]

You have to read this thread from the bottom up...it's like some ancient Dolamitian language.

Anyone know when this issue will be correct? Or if?

[moriarty]

Reaching again but ...

Remeber the - Alamo ... Texans
High Reachers - Reach for the stars ... Astros

[cuervo72]

Reaching again but ...

Remeber the - Alamo ... Texans
High Reachers - Reach for the stars ... Astros

I think this may actually make more sense than the Titans - good thinking. I think...

[rjolley]

If this logic is right, we have the following left:

Seattle Seahawks & Mariners
Houston Texans & Astros
New England Patriots/Boston Red Sox
Indianapolis Colts

One teams from the NFC, three from the AFC
31 clues, 32 teams...so someone is left out.

[cuervo72]

Maybe "Big but sinkable" has to do with Houston.

Astro as in astronaumical or texans relating to the saying "Everything's big in Texas," but Im not sure how sinkable could work in there...

Well, Liberty Bell 7 sunk. :) I think that's an even bigger reach though.

Torn on "remember"...both seem to make some sense.

edit: inserted "Bell"

[moriarty]

Big but Sinkable = Big, Titans
Sinkable = The USS Tennessee was sunk at Pearl Harbor.

I got nothing.

[rjolley]

Maybe "Big but sinkable" has to do with Houston.

Astro as in astronaumical or texans relating to the saying "Everything's big in Texas," but Im not sure how sinkable could work in there...

[WSUCougar]

All the proper answers have been mentioned, you just need to tidy things up a bit.

[moriarty]

Here's my Attempt:

NFC North
Detroit - Barely, oh my! = Lions and Tigers
Chicago - Adults, children, and clean clothing = Bears, Cubs, and White Sox (unique!)
Milwaukee/Greenbay - Beer and hot dogs = Milwaukee
Minnesota - Double trouble = Vikings and Twins

NFC South
Tampa Bay - Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn = Buccaneers and (Devil) Rays
Atlanta - Ford warriors = Falcons and Braves
New Orleans - Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints

Carolina - TD was one, only different = Panthers
NFC East
New York - Large and urban = Giants and Mets
Dallas - Army ranchers = Rangers and Cowboys
Washington - Redskins, Country Peanuts
Philadelphia - Not Mares or Turkeys

NFC West
St. Louis - Papal origins and sheep = Cardinals and Rams
Phoenix - Red-suited rattles = Cardinals and Diamondbacks
San Francisco - Big diggers = Giants and 49ers
Seattle???

AFC North
Cincinnati: - Bay of communists = Bengals and Reds
Cleveland - Native earthtones = Indians and Browns
Pittsburgh - They both steal = Steelers and Pirates
Baltimore - CrO’s = Ravens and Orioles

AFC South
Jacksonville - Nice cars = Jaguars
Indianaplois - Colts = Almost 4 dozen Horses
Tennessee - Big but Sinkable
Houston - Remember the High Reachers

AFC East
New England/Boston - Champion cherry tree choppers
New York - Union aircraft = Yankees and Jets
Buffalo - They give you the willies
Miami - Fish or mammal? = Marlins and Dolphins

AFC WEST
Denver: - Bucking range = Broncos and Rockies
Oakland - Sporting marauders = Athletics and Raiders
Kansas City - Head face cards = Chiefs and Royals
San Diego - Visa Brothers

6 unique - No MLB Team in their city
New Orleans - Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints
Jacksonville - Nice cars = Jaguars
Indianaplois - Colts = Almost 4 dozen Horses
Tennessee - Big but Sinkable
Carolina - TD was one, only different = Panthers
Buffalo - They give you the willies

[QuikSand]

That looks pretty good to me, moriarty.

[moriarty]

That looks pretty good to me, moriarty.

We'll probably have to scroll back up about six posts to see if it's correct.

[WSUCougar]

Close enough. Nicely done!

A few comments:

I left Seattle out because I wanted to throw you off on the number of NFL teams or at least off on the double NY teams, plus it's my home area (wink wink), but that ploy fell away quickly.

Lucy Kinsella = Lucifer Kinsella = Devil Ray

Padres = Fathers instead of brothers? = D'OH!

Colts (almost four dozen horses) was simply a clue that turned out like an attempted ploy. I was thinking of Colt 45 (either the gun or the malt liquor), and not the baseball team. Clever thinking on your end.

"Remember the High Reachers" and "Champion cherry tree choppers" were my favorite misdirection plays, and they worked for awhile. You got them right in the end.

All in all, I was amazed at how quickly some of these were solved. The efforts of cuervo in particular were impressive. It was fun to watch.

[wheels]

(For page two convenience)

Breaking into tentative categories:

TWO TEAMS IN ONE CITY - NFL and MLB
Bay of communists = Bengals and Reds
Bucking range = Broncos and Rockies
Papal origins and sheep = Cardinals and Rams
Sporting marauders = Athletics and Raiders
Native earthtones = Indians and Browns
Not mares or turkeys = Colts and Orioles (...this just in, the Colts moved)
Red-suited rattles = Cardinals and Diamondbacks

NFL FOOTBALL MASCOTS
Paul, Pat, and Nick = Saints
Nice cars = Jaguars
Fish or mammal? = Dolphins
They both steal = Steelers
Lucy Kinsella’s price of corn = Buccaneers

CITY REFERENCES
Big diggers = Boston
Champion cherry tree choppers = Washington
Beer and hot dogs = Milwaukee



Adults, children, and clean clothing
Almost four dozen horses
Army ranchers
Barely, oh my!
Big but sinkable
Country peanuts
CrO’s
Double trouble
Ford warriors
Head face cards
Large and urban
Remember the high-reachers
TD was one, only different
They give you the willies
Union aircraft
Visa brothers Almost four dozen horses: Colt 45s, Houston??

damn delays!

[RPI-Fan]

Close enough. Nicely done!

A few comments:

I left Seattle out because I wanted to throw you off on the number of NFL teams or at least off on the double NY teams, plus it's my home area (wink wink), but that ploy fell away quickly.

Lucy Kinsella = Lucifer Kinsella = Devil Ray

Padres = Fathers instead of brothers? = D'OH!

Colts (almost four dozen horses) was simply a clue that turned out like an attempted ploy. I was thinking of Colt 45 (either the gun or the malt liquor), and not the baseball team. Clever thinking on your end.

"Remember the High Reachers" and "Champion cherry tree choppers" were my favorite misdirection plays, and they worked for awhile. You got them right in the end.

All in all, I was amazed at how quickly some of these were solved. The efforts of cuervo in particular were impressive. It was fun to watch.

Post good puzzles like this during the work day and I think it's a sure the thing that you'll get an audience if FOFC is up and running.:)