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Router Help

03-02-2005, 08:54 AM

Available now using BitTorrent, direct download later today I think. World Wide Soccer Manager tomorrow.

Torrents:

Without Data

Size : 37mb. The increase from the announced size is due to the language packs being included. We apologise for issuing an incorrect filesize

http://62.73.186.71/torrent/btdownload.php?type=torrent&file=fm+patch+5.0.3+with+no+data.exe.torrent

With Data

Size : 84mb

http://62.73.186.71/torrent/btdownload.php?type=torrent&file=fm+patch+5.0.3+with+data.exe.torrent

For the entire fix list: http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/521102691/m/7662053011

FrogMan

03-02-2005, 09:01 AM

sweet!!!

I have a question about the patch though, hoping Marc Vaughan will read in here... If I plan on keeping on playing my current career (i.e. not restart), is there an advantage in downloading the data update right now, or should I only download the patch without the data update?

I will probably download the whole thing, but I'm wondering if it'll do anything to my game if I download the patch with or without the data update. Reason why I plan to download the whole is that I will eventually start another game, I just want to keep on playing with my current career for a little while...

Thanks in advance.

FM

Router Help

03-02-2005, 09:07 AM

I'm pretty sure that the data update won't effect your current games. That data is already locked into the save game file.

HomerJSimpson

03-02-2005, 09:33 AM

The data updates doesn't affect save games. Never has.

moriarty

03-02-2005, 09:40 AM

Awesome. Just wondering how much porn I'll have to delete to be able to get the 84mB on my computer.

Celeval

03-02-2005, 09:53 AM

World Wide Soccer Manager tomorrow.
:(

Marc Vaughan

03-02-2005, 10:03 AM

FrogMan

03-02-2005, 10:07 AM

The data update will only be 'active' in new games so if you're continuing a game it will make no difference to things ...

PS> Sorry for the delay in replying I'm actually off work today (believe it or not ;) )
Thanks for the answer, but this delay was INEXCUSABLE!!! Seriously, thanks. As I said, I'll probably download the full update, install the whole thing and have it ready for whenever I'll start a new career...

Thanks again, now go enjoy a beer, before the whiners start reminding you that you have made a game that is unplayable and not worthy of their money ;)

FM

MikeVick7

03-02-2005, 10:17 AM

Thanks for the answer, but this delay was INEXCUSABLE!!! Seriously, thanks. As I said, I'll probably download the full update, install the whole thing and have it ready for whenever I'll start a new career...

Thanks again, now go enjoy a beer, before the whiners start reminding you that you have made a game that is unplayable and not worthy of their money ;)

FM
I'm actually afraid to peek at the SI boards right now to discover the first negative 5.03 patch thread. :)

SlapBone

03-02-2005, 10:24 AM

Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM?

The .exe is exactly the same.

Marc Vaughan

03-02-2005, 11:00 AM

Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM?

The .exe is exactly the same.
WWSM will have a seperate patch because its CD has a different ID .... sorry for any inconvenience.

PraetorianX

03-02-2005, 11:12 AM

I'm actually afraid to peek at the SI boards right now to discover the first negative 5.03 patch thread. :)

Mido is only on loan to Spurs untill summer of '05, when he should be there 'till the summer of '06.

:)

Your welcome.

HomerJSimpson

03-02-2005, 11:23 AM

Doesn't the FM patch work for WWSM?

The .exe is exactly the same.

But, the old patches worked. It might be this one will, too, but if it doesn't it will not be my fault.

HomerJSimpson

03-02-2005, 11:25 AM

Mido is only on loan to Spurs untill summer of '05, when he should be there 'till the summer of '06.

:)

Your welcome.

What!!! I demand a refund!!!

SlapBone

03-02-2005, 11:26 AM

But, the old patches worked. It might be this one will, too, but if it doesn't it will not be my fault.

I realized why I've never had a problem with the FM patches... nothing to see here...move along now.

FrogMan

03-02-2005, 12:34 PM

The Dugout usually rocks for downloading patches/demos/etc, two thumbs up!

www.thedugout.net (http://www.thedugout.net/)

FM

edit: damn clock bug. this is in fact a reply to scooter's post. Don't want it to look like I came up with the idea of downloading from the Dugout. Thanks for the scoop scooter!

scooter

03-02-2005, 12:36 PM

For those that don't want to mess with BitTorrent (hand raised), The Dugout has both FM 5.0.3 patches posted over there on their website (w/ data and w/out). Download speed was decent too.

FrogMan

03-02-2005, 01:56 PM

Thanks Scooter - I don't want BitTorrent either....appreciate the info
There are also a few mirrors for the regular downaload that are beginning to show up on the SI forum...

FM

CAsterling

03-02-2005, 01:58 PM

For those that don't want to mess with BitTorrent (hand raised), The Dugout has both FM 5.0.3 patches posted over there on their website (w/ data and w/out). Download speed was decent too.

Thanks Scooter - I don't want BitTorrent either....appreciate the info

Desnudo

03-02-2005, 02:30 PM

Ditto that.

I'm getting a good transfer rate from the one in the first post of this thread:

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/521102691/m/7362035011

FrogMan

03-02-2005, 02:59 PM

Mido is only on loan to Spurs untill summer of '05, when he should be there 'till the summer of '06.

:)

Your welcome.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!! :D :D :D Just read that thread over at SI. Good stuff :D

FM

condors

03-02-2005, 04:51 PM

crap i just installed the patch and everything is now in a different language :(

Eaglesfan27

03-02-2005, 04:56 PM

Just got home from work, and very glad to see it is out. Thanks for the dugout link FM! :) Thanks to Marc and the crew for continuing to improve the game :)

Edited: Just re-read the thread. Thanks Scooter for the heads up on the dugout site :)

Sharpieman

03-02-2005, 05:06 PM

crap i just installed the patch and everything is now in a different language :(
This happened to me too, all you need to do is remember where the preferences thing is located and change it.

condors

03-02-2005, 05:08 PM

yeah i got it just took a bunch of clicking to figure it out

jbmagic

03-02-2005, 05:23 PM

for people that have the game.

how is the MLS league now with new patch?

Eaglesfan27

03-02-2005, 05:28 PM

My guess is that it will be at least a few days before anyone can assess how MLS is now, unless they were a beta tester for the patch. I know I'll be at least a few days away from trying MLS (although I do look forward to giving it a spin with this patch.)

GoldenEagle

03-02-2005, 05:34 PM

I am loading up a MLS league as we speak.

Sharpieman

03-02-2005, 05:35 PM

I was thinking of doing a holiday test before I leave for class tonight and running it for a few years on just an MLS league to see how the regens turn out and if the league doesn't get screwed up.

Eaglesfan27

03-02-2005, 05:40 PM

My bad. I really look forward to hearing thoughts about the MLS from you guys, as I really want to have a serious MLS dynasty at some point.

I also had the language problem. For those experiencing it, click on the only lit up link on the top of the opening page. Then, click on the 4th option that is lit up (counting from the top.) Then, click on the top option that is lit up and choose the language of your choice.

jbmagic

03-02-2005, 05:42 PM

thanks

I really look forward to hearing thoughts about the MLS from you guys with the latest patch.

kingfc22

03-02-2005, 06:30 PM

Help World Wide Soccer Manager tomorrow.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/frown.gifhttp://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/frown.gifhttp://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

Chief Rum

03-02-2005, 11:34 PM

Amazing. This always happens with SIGames patches. Stop using BITTORRENT!! (and make regular download options easier to find).

If someone can just post a straight download straight into this thread, I would really, really appreciate it. I go to the Dugout, and I only find Bit Torrent. I go to SIGames mirror sites that are supposedly for straight downloads, and I get one that is actually a Bit Torrent link, a second (in German too, I think) that I can't get my popup blocker to allow (and, no, I can't seem to get ym blocker to ignore it), and a third that leads to a dead link.

Crap, it's almost like they want to hide a regular link. :mad:

CR

GoldenEagle

03-02-2005, 11:34 PM

I can send you the .exe file over AIM.

vyshka

03-02-2005, 11:46 PM

Look under downloads on the dugout website. It is there, just not on the main page for some reason. If it horks the language setting you will need to go into options and set the language back to your preference.

Amazing. This always happens with SIGames patches. Stop using BITTORRENT!! (and make regular download options easier to find).

If someone can just post a straight download straight into this thread, I would really, really appreciate it. I go to the Dugout, and I only find Bit Torrent. I go to SIGames mirror sites that are supposedly for straight downloads, and I get one that is actually a Bit Torrent link, a second (in German too, I think) that I can't get my popup blocker to allow (and, no, I can't seem to get ym blocker to ignore it), and a third that leads to a dead link.

Crap, it's almost like they want to hide a regular link. :mad:

CR

ISiddiqui

03-03-2005, 12:01 AM

It's now tomorrow... where is that WWSM patch! :mad: ;)

Chief Rum

03-03-2005, 12:10 AM

Thank you, vyshka. I actually checked that (The Dugout's download section), but had problems with my blocker there, too. I played around with things a bit and finally got it to download the file.

Thanks for the offer, GE.

Vinatieri for Prez

03-03-2005, 01:14 AM

A little bit off topic. I will be buying FM 2005, now that this patch is out. However, what's the real difference between FM and WWSM? I am a football purist, and I don't want to see any crazy american things in there (whether its expressions such as "field" instead of pitch, or "coach" instead of manager), or even MSL themed logos etc. (Sorry,MLS fans). Should I just buy it here of get the FM (import) from gogamer?

vyshka

03-03-2005, 01:18 AM

I think the only difference (Marc can correct me on this) is the terms used in text. It uses terms more familiar to Americans. I ordered FM2005 from the UK
when it came out bc I didn't want to wait for WWSM. So I can't say for sure,
but I imagine a search of the sigames forums will find threads dealing with it.

A little bit off topic. I will be buying FM 2005, now that this patch is out. However, what's the real difference between FM and WWSM? I am a football purist, and I don't want to see any crazy american things in there (whether its expressions such as "field" instead of pitch, or "coach" instead of manager), or even MSL themed logos etc. (Sorry,MLS fans). Should I just buy it here of get the FM (import) from gogamer?

ISiddiqui

03-03-2005, 01:29 AM

Yeah, I think the only changes are minor text things. I don't notice anything wierd with WWSM, in terms of how things are refered.

Pumpy Tudors

03-03-2005, 01:36 AM

I'm waiting patiently for the WSM patch. I'll probably restart my career since I had activated too many leagues, and it was just taking too long to process anything for my liking. I still managed to get through nearly two seasons, though.

What's with the aversion to BitTorrent? Since the WSM patch isn't out yet, I haven't tried BitTorrent for this particular file, but are there too few seeds or something? I would think that BT would be absolutely perfect for a file with such demand. Isn't that the point of BT in the first place?

FrogMan

03-03-2005, 07:02 AM

Chief Rum

03-03-2005, 08:45 AM

The aversion to Bit Torrent is more a personal thing with me, Pumpy (although I wouldn't be surprised if there are others).

It just seems very complicated. I always have a lot of problems when I try to download a file using Bit Torrent. It's not really an intuitive program.

Meanwhile, a straight download is a very simple process to handle, and I have cable, so the wait isn't that long for me.

I guess the answer to your question is that Bit Torrent is great for people on dial up and who don't mind complicated things (or more complicated), but for people on broadband who only want a simple download, it's a big headache.

CR

FrogMan

03-03-2005, 12:25 PM

this is a repost from my dynasty report concerning player changes due to the patch...

==================================
Okay, I've run some quick test over lunch and John Davies is indeed turning into quite a specimen http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

He is a 17yo D R that joined the team during the last offseason, and as I said, I was never all that impressed about his overall skills, until last night that is... Quickly scanning is skills, I can see that he gained 11 skill points by simply applying the patch. Methodology: I took a picture of my whole team just before saving the night before yesterday. I applied the patch before loading the game yesterday, then turned on FM2005 and loaded my game. First thing I did is take another picture of the whole team. By taking a picture, I mean saving to text the 7 important screens (general, mental, physical, technical, attacking, defensive, goalkeeping) and parsing them through excel (who would have thought, huh? http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif ). With that, I can compare the picture of the whole team, player by player, from one picture to another.

So I compare the picture from pre-patch to post-patch (on January 10), remember that not even one day has passed after reloading the game post-patch. In his case, John Davies strikes me as a nice gainer at first, gaining 11 skill points overall, only because of the patch. They were all 1 point gain, since he's a full back, most useful gains came on crossing, marking, passing, tackling, anticipation, and positioning. All nice gains, especially since they can not be attributed to training.

Then I took another picture of the team on January 22, so 12 days after applying the patch. Now, WOW!!! Davies has now gained 38 skill points!!! http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif He got boosts of 3 in crossing, first touch, marking, tackling, technique, anticipation, concentration, and decisions. He also got boosts of 2 in heading (up to 16 now), passing, composure, creativity, and positioning... He definitely becomes a payer to keep in good check and could eventually have some playing time with the first squad...

Me love the patch http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I'll try to find a way to report my findings, possibly in here. Just gotta find a way to post the 47 columns in the table in a way that it doesn't give everyone a headache http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
=======================

FM

Passacaglia

03-03-2005, 01:41 PM

Ditto that.

I'm getting a good transfer rate from the one in the first post of this thread:

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/521102691/m/7362035011

I used this, no BitTorrent, no problem.

TazFTW

03-03-2005, 02:35 PM

The WWSM patches are 22 and 67 MBs, why the difference in size when compared to the FM patches?

SirFozzie

03-03-2005, 02:41 PM

when they release a "final" patch for a game, haven't they usually removed the copy protection (the must have CD in drive crap?) that could be it.

FrogMan

03-03-2005, 02:42 PM

The WWSM patches are 22 and 67 MBs, why the difference in size when compared to the FM patches?
Reason why the FM patches are si big is because they included all the language packs in them. Maybe they don't need to include all the language packs in the WWSM patch, since it's supposedly destined to the North American market. Just a guess though, I have no inside information...

FM

illinifan999

03-04-2005, 06:51 AM

Out of the box the game works fine. But when I install the patch, it tells me I need to insert the correct CD?

Marc Vaughan

03-04-2005, 07:51 AM

Out of the box the game works fine. But when I install the patch, it tells me I need to insert the correct CD?
Did you install the correct patch for your game (ie. you didn't install the FM patch onto an American version of the game did you?).

Hammer755

03-04-2005, 10:08 AM

Are there any alternate locations for the WSM patch? I'm getting terribly slow d/l times from SI's site - it's projecting 1 hour of d/l time for the small file (22 MB) on my T1 line.

FrogMan

03-04-2005, 10:23 AM

have you tried www.thedugout.net (http://www.thedugout.net)?

FM

FrogMan

03-04-2005, 10:28 AM

just found this site: http://www.fmusa4you.com/

here's the link to their download page: http://www.fmusa4you.com/03_02_05.htm

they have both the FM2005 and WWSM2205 patches...

FM

aquavit

03-04-2005, 10:30 AM

Out of the box the game works fine. But when I install the patch, it tells me I need to insert the correct CD?

Did you buy Football Manager from sendit.com? If so, I ran into the same problem and you'll want to check out this thread on the SI boards....

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/66919117/m/838206449

Needless to say after clearing my afternoon to start my new career on 5.0.3 I wasn't happy. I'm getting a refund though and going to the local Gamestop to buy WWSM today.

Hammer755

03-04-2005, 10:43 AM

FrogMan

03-04-2005, 10:48 AM

Thanks for the links FM, they made a huge difference. I have been checking the dugout the past couple of days and they still don't have the WSM patches up, but I was not aware of the other site you linked. I still had 1/2 an hour to go on the small file from SI, but will now have the 66 meg in less than 3 minutes.

Thanks again!
no problem, glad to be of help. I realized afterward that the dugout may not have the WWSM patch, and I remembered a FM site for US people. I figured if one site had to have the WWSM patch, other than SI, it had to be that one :)

FM

illinifan999

03-04-2005, 03:06 PM

Did you install the correct patch for your game (ie. you didn't install the FM patch onto an American version of the game did you?).
Yeah, I have Football Manager 2005, and I tried each patch the one with the data and the one without it.

ISiddiqui

03-04-2005, 03:37 PM

But did you install the WWSM patch with your FM game? :D

illinifan999

03-04-2005, 03:42 PM

But did you install the WWSM patch with your FM game? :D
no it's the correct patch

illinifan999

03-04-2005, 03:43 PM

dola

the file i downloaded is called fm503wdata and the one without data is 376

illinifan999

03-04-2005, 03:54 PM

It's just so weird because without any of the patches installed the game loads up and works fine, and after I install any of the patches, I even tried to do the 5.0.2 patch and it gave me the error. And yes they are all the FM patches for the FM game.

SirFozzie

03-04-2005, 03:56 PM

Did you get it from sendit illinitfan999?

illinifan999

03-04-2005, 05:00 PM

got it from an FOFC member, but the box it came in said blackstar.co.uk. And the package was unopened.

ISiddiqui

03-04-2005, 05:10 PM

dola

the file i downloaded is called fm503wdata and the one without data is 376
Wierd, the data file I DLed was 376. Maybe the WWSM one was named that.

TazFTW

03-04-2005, 05:15 PM

The data file for WWSM is called 379.

kingfc22

03-04-2005, 06:45 PM

I think I may have found a bug in the new WWSM 5.0.3 patch. I play in Serie C2 in Italy and before my matches would have refs assigned. Now all I get is "unknown".

Desnudo

03-04-2005, 07:31 PM

Great patch. My crash problem is solved and the regens look great even though I patched an in-progress game. I think this is the first version of CM/FM with proper quality regens. Great job SI!

Teams are now asking to loan my players. Good stuff.

Vinatieri for Prez

03-04-2005, 11:25 PM

see this thread for the difference between the two:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=36419&highlight=wwsm

FM

Thanks. But the verbage thing is a killer for me, believe it or not. I will get FM.

Marc Vaughan

03-05-2005, 04:39 AM

I think I may have found a bug in the new WWSM 5.0.3 patch. I play in Serie C2 in Italy and before my matches would have refs assigned. Now all I get is "unknown".

Didn't think we'd touched that area - can you confirm this is the same game, just after the patch? (if you can then I'll look into it).

kingfc22

03-05-2005, 02:24 PM

I continued my same game from 5.0.2 to 5.0.3 and every match since has had the "unknown" ref.

illinifan999

03-05-2005, 11:09 PM

Well I decided to just not use the patches, but I started a new career with Rosenborg in Norway's Premier division and man it's fun dealing with the guys whose heads are getting huge and they all want to move to a bigger club. I just wish I could tell them they need to actually start performing if they wanted an offer.

Eaglesfan27

03-05-2005, 11:19 PM

That is so odd that you can't get the game to work with the patch.

ISiddiqui

03-06-2005, 01:42 AM

Thanks. But the verbage thing is a killer for me, believe it or not. I will get FM.
Um... in that case, just change the language in game! It isn't that hard to go from "English(US)" to "English"

daedalus

03-06-2005, 04:42 AM

Um... in that case, just change the language in game! It isn't that hard to go from "English(US)" to "English"Ooooooh. I like the sound of that. Did not know that option was in there before (even though I should have figured on it, given SI's past).

I heart you.

Ajaxab

03-06-2005, 08:15 AM

I continued my same game from 5.0.2 to 5.0.3 and every match since has had the "unknown" ref.

I started a new game with Havant and Waterlooville (Conference) and I can't stand the Unknown ref. I wouldn't want to be known either if I gave one squad, which also happens to be my squad, 2 red cards and 2 penalties in the first three games of the season. I hate Mr. Unknown!

Desnudo

03-07-2005, 12:38 PM

Marc,

At the end of my first season with the new patch, I received around 70 youth players into my academy at Norwich. I was wondering if this would be considered a bug? 70 stinkers too. At least give me 30 or 40 wonderkids. ;)

Desnudo

03-07-2005, 02:40 PM

dola,

Has there been any reports of problems offering contracts to unprotected players and players with <6 months? I've been having varying success offering contracts to unprotecteds. Sometimes the option "Approach to sign" is a available, sometimes not. I just received a notice for someone's contract expiring in 6 months and yet cannot offer them contract. Thanks.

As an example, here is a picture of a guy who has both an unprotected contract and less than 6 months left on the contract. No option to sign and right clicking the name in the news area doesn't bring it up either.

Buggery? (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/jgflg/bug1.jpg)