NCAA Football 2008

[Kodos]

This should be an interesting thread over the next couple of days. Nothing funnier to read than an EA game release thread as it goes through the paces.........

Or where one man defends the PS3 and everyone else tears it a new one. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Not surprisingly, the impressions on OS are overwhelmingly favorable. The vast majority of people say the 60 FPS on the 360 makes a huge difference from last year in how smooth the controls are. Also, the computer is actually missing FG's now. People are reporting the blocking is much better and player size seems to have more of an effect. Looking forward to trying the demo tonight.

[Kodos]

Yep. People have been mostly favorable over at OS.

[Ksyrup]

Is there a decent site (or thread at another board) that details exactly what the PS2 version has/doesn't have, and any PS2-specific quirks/bugs? I'm still on the fence about getting this, or whether I should just wait until the fever hits me and start up a new career on 2007.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Or where one man defends the PS3 and everyone else tears it a new one. :)

Yes, because we all know EA roster updates didn't start until this generation...... :)

[Mike1409]

My Impressions after playing the demo once. I love the graphics, they are much improved from last year. I had both versions last year and the 360 was very choppy and felt clumsy. This year it feels next gen. The QB auto drops and there appears to be a pocket to step into. On one play the DE went inside and the LT stepped out to pick up a blitzing LB or CB. I picked off 2 passes but both were thrown under pressure, and I even threw a pass over the middle that was not knocked down by a MLB.

[Icy]

Release day is 17th right? too bad as i'll be already in holidays else i would preorder it. This will be a good way to be patient, will read impressions and will decide once i get back in August.

[Eaglesfan27]

Release day is 17th right? too bad as i'll be already in holidays else i would preorder it. This will be a good way to be patient, will read impressions and will decide once i get back in August.

Yes, the official release day is the 17th.

[MizzouRah]

Can't wait to check this out tongiht. I was in the "control of players stink" camp last year.

[WVUFAN]

Guys, please...I'm not getting my 360 until Sunday. More impressions are needed.

What do you want to know about the demo?

[kingnebwsu]

The first thing I noticed is the 60 FPS thing...it sure makes a huge difference initially. Time to play a full demo game now ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

The first thing I noticed is the 60 FPS thing...it sure makes a huge difference initially. Time to play a full demo game now ;)


I'm interested in hearing your thoughts and WVUFan's (and whoever else) on fumbles in the demo. That seems to be the biggest complaint on OS while others on there are reporting zero fumbles. I'm wondering how much the "cover up" button will prevent fumbles. Less than 4 hours until I get home to try this for myself.

[rowech]

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts and WVUFan's (and whoever else) on fumbles in the demo. That seems to be the biggest complaint on OS while others on there are reporting zero fumbles. I'm wondering how much the "cover up" button will prevent fumbles. Less than 4 hours until I get home to try this for myself.

I had one fumble in two games and it was probably a "legit" fumble.

[Kodos]

In the one quarter that I've played, I had two guys get dinged with minor injuries.

With basically one drive to go on, I like it so far.

[kingnebwsu]

So yeah, just played my first game and I dunno...we'll see how the final version is. This one is a bit buggy (I know it's a demo). Just unpolished in some spots (like having your play selection menu open on top of the instant replay). Also there was slowdown in between plays (like going out of the huddle). The long passing seems really sensitive. I had a guy open a few times and couldn't complete the big one. I lost the game 14-7 when michigan got a pick-6 with no time left. My guy was ready to catch the ball, but the CB stepped in front and grabbed it. I threw 2 picks and recovered one fumble in my first demo game.

Sideline players are running at 30 FPS and looks like barely passable PS2 graphics. No commentators really changes the feel of a game. Guys look really funny when they're out of breath, they look like they're struggling to breathe big-time.

[Eaglesfan27]

So yeah, just played my first game and I dunno...we'll see how the final version is. This one is a bit buggy (I know it's a demo). Just unpolished in some spots (like having your play selection menu open on top of the instant replay). Also there was slowdown in between plays (like going out of the huddle). The long passing seems really sensitive. I had a guy open a few times and couldn't complete the big one. I lost the game 14-7 when michigan got a pick-6 with no time left. My guy was ready to catch the ball, but the CB stepped in front and grabbed it. I threw 2 picks and recovered one fumble in my first demo game.

Sideline players are running at 30 FPS and looks like barely passable PS2 graphics. No commentators really changes the feel of a game. Guys look really funny when they're out of breath, they look like they're struggling to breathe big-time.

I'm glad to hear that the long passing game is much more challenging with QB's being inaccurate which is a great thing in my opinion. As far as the commentary, I'm sure you know this, but it was left out only for the demo to decrease the size of the download. Hopefully, the other issues are cleaned up for release.

[kingnebwsu]

Played again and USC crushed michigan 18-0. I can still see the long-FG issue from before. michigan's K just missed a 57-yarder. I mean, barely. My kicker nailed a 47-yarder that was just inside the upright but had distance to spare.

No game stats/user instant replay is a bummer.

There are definite frame-rate issues when the play is not going on. Every time I call a play and my team breaks the huddle, there's about a 1-second delay when the game freezes. This hopefully is fixed in the real game.

Secondary seems improved overall, even though my CB did the classic break-your-coverage-to-jump-and-miss-tipping-a-pass-which-leads-to-a-TD in the first game. They seem to react better overall. A lot of batted balls (including getting batted multiple times).

My running game just crushed the AI. I just used the sprint/stiff arm tackles and ran it right up the gut for solid gains. I think my RB's averaged like 8 YPC. I know it's probably on varsity level.

I've had one punt return and my four blockers stopped 1 guy and let another one through to tackle me after a 2 yard return.

[WVUFAN]

I'm interested in hearing your thoughts and WVUFan's (and whoever else) on fumbles in the demo. That seems to be the biggest complaint on OS while others on there are reporting zero fumbles. I'm wondering how much the "cover up" button will prevent fumbles. Less than 4 hours until I get home to try this for myself.

I've played 3 games so far, the first I did a normal combination of run/pass, and it was very hard to complete a long pass (I was Michigan). The DB's are quite a bit smarter in this version as the last one. I had a fumble on the kickoff which the booth reviewed and it was overturned. I won 21-14, when I intercepted a really, really bad pass (Booty got nailed as he hit it, and the ball was really off).

The second game I ran nearly exclusively. Fumbled 5 times, and lost 21-3. Hart had a tendency to fumble, especially when he got gang tackled.

Pros:
-- The game runs much, MUCH smoother and faster. As others have said, you can really tell this is 60 fps, as the game runs better.

-- I like the camera angles on the challenges.

-- The secondary AI is dramatically improved.

-- Others say differently, but I think the graphics are better. No, there's no helmet reflections, but things are brighter and shadows (unlike last year's version) are correct.

-- Gang tackles are in the game. This is a good and bad thing for me, but I do like the increased variety of tackles as opposed to last year.

-- Line blocking is much better. You can see the pocket, and lineman sliding down for blocks. On runs, there's a nice bit of downfield blocking, so the lineman don't just stop on initial hits.

-- I didn't see "jump the snap" on the demo. The Y button is now back to secondary audibles. This may just be a demo thing, though.

Cons:

-- There is an issue with fumbles, but it might be due to this being a demo. Interceptions seem to be right on par, especially if you throw into coverage like I did a few times.

-- I do not like the new playcalling screen. It gives you only 4 plays per screen to choose from, and on a standard TV it's very hard to see details on the plays. May be just my TV, though.

-- This is more than likely a demo issue, but the after-play celebration animations are buggy as all hell, and not apt in every situation. (Hart gets a 2 yard gain, and celebrates like he just scored a TD)

-- The game has a much more arcady-ish feel than any version I've played before, even current-gen.

-- Entirely too many broken tackles.

Hope this is helpful. Overall, this is a much better experience than last year, but there are some bugs that might need to be worked out.

[gstelmack]

(Hart gets a 2 yard gain, and celebrates like he just scored a TD)

So it IS realistic (along with the other comment about CBs going for the INT, missing, and giving up a TD) :D

[sabotai]

-- The game has a much more arcady-ish feel than any version I've played before, even current-gen.

-- Entirely too many broken tackles.

These two might (hopefully) be the result of having to play on an easy difficulty setting in the demo. I'm just about finished downloading it to see for myself.

[WVUFAN]

dola --

In the demo, it shows the gamewinning or big play from the game you just played at the end. Not a big deal, but a nice touch.

[sabotai]

One thing I have noticed that's annoying is that pulling linemen are constantly getting stuck on other OL players.

EDIT: Of course, just as I post this, I run an outside play where the guard pulls flawlessly. :)

[Balldog]

How the heck do you throw a bomb with some air under it? I tried 3 long passes by tapping the button and all I get is a bullet.

[Eaglesfan27]

FWIW, a guy at OS is "confirmed" to have an early release copy and is answering questions. He reports that in a regular length game there was only 1 fumble. My wife forgot to tell me that we were babysitting for her friend tonight, so I won't get a chance to try the demo until tomorrow. So, I'm still looking around for impressions.

[jbmagic]

Has the fatigue bug been fix?

[BigMak]

I played about 3 quarters before work this morning. I forced one fumble. I was a LB and sacked the QB. I blocked the 1 FG attempt against me. Gang tackling is finally part of EA which is very nice and much needed. I thought the gang tackling looked realistic.

One thing I did not like was the CPU threw a pass to the TE. He was wide open and running and out to the sidelines. Seemed to get stuck in an animation and went out of bounds. I thought this was fixed.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Has the fatigue bug been fix?
Are you sure you don't have NCAA confused with Madden here?

[Emiliano]

Are you sure you don't have NCAA confused with Madden here?

Yeah, I think Madden had it in last year's 360 version. NCAA never had that problem, I'm sure. At least, not in the current-gen version.

[Kodos]

How the AI

[TroyF]

Just played a quick game as Michigan.

My first play was a counter and Hart ran for 75 yards and a TD. Had a sack and fumble that was overturned on a replay. Long passes aren't tougher, they are damned near impossible. Everything I throw is a bullet. Either it's a bug or I'm doing something wrong.

Two fumbles in the game. One was on a kickoff return. (USC fumbled, I recovered) The other was late in the game while I was nursing a lead. Hart slammed into the middle of the line and lost the ball. I recovered that one too, but wasn't real happy with Mr. Hart. (I wasn't covering it up, probably my fault)

Plusses -

--- In the middle of a play the gameplay is smooth.

--- I like the graphics this year. Brighter colors, less worry about reflections all over the place.

--- USC kicker missed 2 kicks against me

--- seems like the game is taking snapshots of huge plays throughout the game. I wonder if there will be some sort of a photo album after a game or what that is all about.

Minuses

--- Lag between plays is a bit annoying

--- I HATE the new play calling screen. I mean hate it. Seeing four plays at a time is ridiculous. EA took a major step back here IMHO. Not a dealbreaker, but it could have been so much better.

--- Still seeing the MLB knock down to many passes. (both sides)

--- Did I mention how much I hate the play calling screen?

[jbmagic]

Bugs you guys see in the demo will most likely carry over to the retail version.

I hope you guys don't think it will be fix before the release.

EA hardly comes out with fixes after the game is release. Just roster updates.

[rowech]

Glad I wasn't the only one that hated the playcalling screen. I think that's just awful.

I'm wondering how much different a demo can really be from a game though?

[Phototropic]

I loved last year's game despite the occasionally poor collision detection and DB AI. After playing the new demo, I'm thinking of cancelling my preorder. Some of these have been mentioned, but here are my thoughts:

Pros

- Obviously the frame rate is huge.
- Tackling all-around is better -- gang-tackles and regular. I liked the additional broken tackles because it always seemed like someone was there to finish off the play.
- DB AI seems improved and collision detection didn't seem to be an issue during plays.

Cons

- In my first game Michigan started the first 3 drives with picks. Turnovers on both sides are out of control but maybe that is just a demo issue.
- The playcalling screen is horrid. Not only do you have to scroll side to side to change formations, but you can no longer use the bumpers to quick-flip which means 2 or 3 button presses just to get to a new page.
- While gang-tackles are cool, they are mainly just clean up work, ie the defender is trying for an extra yard and you come in to knock him back.
- The ball physics on incompletions seemed weird. The ball was pinballing around receivers' hands and making loud thud sounds. This might have been in last year's game and I just didn't notice it as much.
- I'm seeing a lot of slowdown between plays when the screen transitions.


Some other frustrating notes on my first game (which I won 16-14) besides the 3 initial picks were:

Opening kickoff returned against me after running through a pile of 4 guys.
On one of my PATs the ball went through my holder, and the play was called dead.

I'm pretty disappointed as I was really looking forward to this game, but I'm hoping that this was a really early build used in the demo.

[TroyF]

Bugs you guys see in the demo will most likely carry over to the retail version.

I hope you guys don't think it will be fix before the release.

EA hardly comes out with fixes after the game is release. Just roster updates.

jb,

I'm not sure there are a lot of "bugs" in the demo. The only real one that's bothering me is the passing and that is even something that can usually be fixed with slider tweaks.

The demo to me was just ok. Not great, not horrific. Blah. OK.

If the full game comes out like that, I'll probably be OK. There isn't any other NCAA game to turn to and I'm sure I'll get my 60 bucks worth out of it. If it comes with more bugs, then it could be a dealbreaker. We'll just have to see.

[sabotai]

I don't think the play calling screen is that bad. I think it's better than the old style (not last year's next-gen system which I didn't get much of a chance to get used to).

The demo was "meh". Not that much better than last year's, but like others said, it's Varsity difficulty level with default sliders. The gameplay is actually better than I'd expect with those settings. I'm confident we'll get a pretty good football game on higher dif. levels and slider changes.

Wasn't looking for too much in this demo. Just to make sure the collision detection was fixed (seems to be), and that the controls were smoother (seems to be). The stutters between plays are annoying, but nothing that will keep me from buying the game.

[bhlloy]

--- Still seeing the MLB knock down to many passes. (both sides)



Frickin' EA. How long has this been an issue now in their football games? Pathetic, and I'll still give them my hundred bucks this year because there's nothing else out there.

[Phototropic]

I did play once more and have a really solid 3-6 game without any noticeable gameplay issues.

[BYU 14]

Grrrr...no PS3 Demo....

[TroyF]

After playing a few more games, I'm getting a much better feel for passing. Even completed a few deep balls. In one terrific game I drove down the field in the fourth and hit my TE with a perfect crossing route. He broke one tackle and took it 26 yards for a TD.

A couple of keys that I've found to passing:

1) Let the AI drop your QB back. Just concentrate on the receivers from the snap to a two count or so. If it isn't out by 2 or 3 at the most, you'd better look at the line and get prepared to make something happen.

2) If you do scramble, make sure you set the QB's feet. I haven't completed a single ball on the run. I think they may have overcorrected the issue of QB's being able to throw accurately on the run. Could just be the setting of the two QB's though. (both are much better pocket passers IRL)

3) If the MLB or the safety has his back to you, you can get it over their head for a completion a decent amount of the time. If they are facing you when you throw the ball? You are screwed.

Overall, the more I played it tonight, the more I enjoyed it. That's always a good sign. (until day 3 when I scream in frustration at some asinine bug they let pass anyway)

[CraigSca]

Just played my first game - seemed like '07 Next-Gen for me, only better. I use the call play screen differently, as I don't use it by formation (by type of play), so it really didn't affect me. I was Michigan and we defeated USC, 9-0. Each team threw a pick (mine was horrible, I panic in the pocket - ha). I was barely able to run the ball, but running's not my strong suit. I like the game a lot, but I'm not a hardcore player like a lot of others. Defnitely liked it and can't wait to see the added depth in the retail version.

Oh, and unlike others, the slight hitch when players head to the line of scrimmage didn't bother me a bit. I had to remind myself to look for it, in fact. If it were to happen in the middle of the play, that would be a problem, but it doesn't happen then.

The pics the game takes of your last play are a good idea but poorly implemented. I'd say about 20% of the pix it takes are relevant. Oh, and to the person who said replays are hard to see because of the play calling overlap - man, you should have seen it last year. Replays were in a TINY window under the play calling screen - ha!

[TroyF]

Grrrr...no PS3 Demo....


One other comment I was going to make. . .

I can't imagine this game at 30 FPS. Maybe the other guys can chime in here on this. I think while the game is smooth that it couldn't deal with a 30 FPS drop and still be enjoyable.

I may be 100% off base, but I don't have the confidence this thing is going to play good at all on the PS3.

[CraigSca]

Oh, and I had one dropped pass tonight to my wide open TE. Not sure if Michigan's TE isn't known as a pass catcher but there was no excuse. I'm going to change his position to punter and let him know I'd be willing to have him transfer :)

[CraigSca]

dola

Late in the game, I noticed that my defensive end (the guy I controlled the entire game) had been subbed out for his backup. I like that - I can't be 100% sure, but it looks like fatigue is accurately portrayed.

[BYU 14]

One other comment I was going to make. . .

I can't imagine this game at 30 FPS. Maybe the other guys can chime in here on this. I think while the game is smooth that it couldn't deal with a 30 FPS drop and still be enjoyable.

I may be 100% off base, but I don't have the confidence this thing is going to play good at all on the PS3.

I hope you are wrong Troy, I barely play video games, but this one has got me really excited (First one I ever pre-ordered) and it will be a huge letdown if it sucks on PS3.

[jbmagic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gkaz0ACZrA

Video of someone playing the demo

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

One other comment I was going to make. . .

I can't imagine this game at 30 FPS. Maybe the other guys can chime in here on this. I think while the game is smooth that it couldn't deal with a 30 FPS drop and still be enjoyable.

I may be 100% off base, but I don't have the confidence this thing is going to play good at all on the PS3.

Yes, it was nearly unplayable last year on the 360 at 30 FPS. :rolleyes:

If EA's NCAA 08 isn't a good game, it won't be because of framerates.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yes, it was nearly unplayable last year on the 360 at 30 FPS. :rolleyes:

If EA's NCAA 08 isn't a good game, it won't be because of framerates.


Anyone who sees it on a 360 and sees how it is running at 60 FPS is going to be disappointed when they go back and play it on their PS3 and see it running at 30. All of the previewers have said that the 60 FPS makes a huge difference. Heck, guys on here have said that. I'll try the demo tonight myself, after playing a quarter of 07 which ran at 30 FPS just to see how much of a difference it is.

[TroyF]

Yes, it was nearly unplayable last year on the 360 at 30 FPS. :rolleyes:

If EA's NCAA 08 isn't a good game, it won't be because of framerates.

I'm telling you, there is a MAJOR difference in gameplay. Maybe someone who doesn't know any better won't be bothered. But someone who has seen and played the game the way it looks on the 360 is going to have a difficult time stomaching 1/2 the frame rate.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Anyone who sees it on a 360 and sees how it is running at 60 FPS is going to be disappointed when they go back and play it on their PS3 and see it running at 30. All of the previewers have said that the 60 FPS makes a huge difference. Heck, guys on here have said that. I'll try the demo tonight myself, after playing a quarter of 07 which ran at 30 FPS just to see how much of a difference it is.

Graphics running at 30 or 60 FPS have never been the issue with EA games. They've always looked nice. They've just had the problem that unbelievably stupid bugs continue to appear each and every year. Getting excited over a demo in a EA game is never a good idea. Consider that the demo is a paired-down version of the game. If it's having technical issues without some features in the demo version, well......we'll just see. :)

[Kodos]

I have to say I'm not overwhelmed by the demo. It has some nice things. It feels like it moves too slow. The constant fumbles are annoying. Hart sucks! Even when I held the protect the ball button (right shoulder button, right?). Hoping this is still an early build.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Another set of impressions. Appears to like it overall, but there was another mention of numerous fumbles.

http://sportsgamer.blogspot.com/2007/07/quick-ncaa-demo-thoughts.html

[TroyF]

Graphics running at 30 or 60 FPS have never been the issue with EA games. They've always looked nice. They've just had the problem that unbelievably stupid bugs continue to appear each and every year. Getting excited over a demo in a EA game is never a good idea. Consider that the demo is a paired-down version of the game. If it's having technical issues without some features in the demo version, well......we'll just see. :)

1) We get it. We know EA games have other issues than frame rates. That's obvious.

2) The frame rates make a difference. I'm not sure why that's hard to comprehend. We knew it would make a difference even before the release and after playing the demo, there is a noticeable difference to me and many others who have played it. That's an issue for a PS3 owner. Forget all of the other issues with the game, the game at 1/2 the framerate of the other system is an issue if you own a PS3. Especially if you have a friend who has a 360 and you play both versions. I'm not sure how noticeable it is to other people, but I htink the drop is signifigant.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

1) We get it. We know EA games have other issues than frame rates. That's obvious.

Good deal. Sounds like we're on the same page them. I don't care about the frame rate if the game still has flaws. There were several posts earlier in this thread mentioning that EA would get their money even if the games were so-so simply because there is no other option for college football. I don't buy that logic at all. They have to put out a game that actually is worth my $60 before I actually spend it.

Point me to the last EA sports game thread where the impressions actually improved over the course of time. It's been quite awhile. Until it happens again, count me as sceptical.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Maybe I didn't read closely enough earlier in the thread, but I thought the fumble issue was that there weren't enough fumbles. So are there too many or too few?

[TroyF]

Two schools of thought and both are equally right:

1) I'm not paying $60 for a buggy game that should be better. Screw (insert gamemaker here), I'm not buying their garbage.

I've taken this opinion with older versions of OOTP. (although I'm really enjoying 7) There isn't anything wrong with this opinion. I can see why people have it and have had it myself in the past.

2) OK, the game is buggy in parts, but with slider tweaks it's playable. I still have fun playing it and it is the only option out there. At the end of the day, I'll get my $60 worth of gameplay out of it, even if I wish it could be better.

I think this is the attitude most people take with an NCAA/Madden game. Simply put, there is no alternative for a graphical dynasty game. It's Madden and NCAA. There have been years the game has been a complete and total disaster. But most years EA gets it good enough to make it enjoyable for all but the die hard sports gamers.

I know I'll be frustrated by something in the game within a week of purchase. I also know I'll play the game 25-35 hours at a minimum, have some online games with friends and get more than enough enjoyment out of the overall game to make it worth my money.

If a gamer gets that, there is nothing wrong with it. I believe Mizzou plays ESPN 2K7 baseball on the 360. That thing is damned near unplayable for me but he was able to overlook the flaws and get his money worth out of it. Good for him. And good for us who will get it out of NCAA.

[jbmagic]

Maybe I didn't read closely enough earlier in the thread, but I thought the fumble issue was that there weren't enough fumbles. So are there too many or too few?

Too Many.

Hopefully its a lower level thing because there is no fumble sliders to adjust.

[Logan]

Honestly, it could be buggy as hell and I'll still play a 5 year dynasty at the minimum with Rutgers. I don't crave the perfect realism that I used to when I was younger, probably because I'm happy enough to be just relaxing in front of the TV with a video game instead of working or doing something else that's stressful. My $60 will be well-spent for these reasons. Hell, I'm working in NYC this week and I'll easily spend $60 on morning coffee, lunch, and afternoon coffee.

edit: That's not to say that people don't have the right to be mad or choose to not spend their money on a game for a "roster update" or if the little annoying bugs are enough to turn you off. Personally, I can deal with all bugs short of "I step back to pass and the ball magically shifts into the hands of a defender."

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Two schools of thought and both are equally right:

1) I'm not paying $60 for a buggy game that should be better. Screw (insert gamemaker here), I'm not buying their garbage.

I've taken this opinion with older versions of OOTP. (although I'm really enjoying 7) There isn't anything wrong with this opinion. I can see why people have it and have had it myself in the past.

2) OK, the game is buggy in parts, but with slider tweaks it's playable. I still have fun playing it and it is the only option out there. At the end of the day, I'll get my $60 worth of gameplay out of it, even if I wish it could be better.

I think this is the attitude most people take with an NCAA/Madden game. Simply put, there is no alternative for a graphical dynasty game. It's Madden and NCAA. There have been years the game has been a complete and total disaster. But most years EA gets it good enough to make it enjoyable for all but the die hard sports gamers.

I know I'll be frustrated by something in the game within a week of purchase. I also know I'll play the game 25-35 hours at a minimum, have some online games with friends and get more than enough enjoyment out of the overall game to make it worth my money.

If a gamer gets that, there is nothing wrong with it. I believe Mizzou plays ESPN 2K7 baseball on the 360. That thing is damned near unplayable for me but he was able to overlook the flaws and get his money worth out of it. Good for him. And good for us who will get it out of NCAA.

Actually, MizzouRah is the one who likes the 2K7 game. I currenly play the PS3 version of The Show. We both wear black and gold to work every day, so I can see how you were confused.

[Anthony]

i guess it's me, but i'm a bit underwhelmed by the graphics and i don't notice or can't tell what 60 FPS looks like. guess i have to see 30 FPS to see the difference. i'm still excited to get the game though. looks real deep and seems like it'll provide quite a few hours of gameplay out of it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Honestly, it could be buggy as hell and I'll still play a 5 year dynasty at the minimum with Rutgers. I don't crave the perfect realism that I used to when I was younger, probably because I'm happy enough to be just relaxing in front of the TV with a video game instead of working or doing something else that's stressful. My $60 will be well-spent for these reasons. Hell, I'm working in NYC this week and I'll easily spend $60 on morning coffee, lunch, and afternoon coffee.

I'm actually a tester by occupation, so problems in a program stick out like a sore thumb to me when compared to most gamers. I look for those kinds of bugs on a daily basis.

[CraigSca]

I haven't seen too many. You just have to cover up when there are 50 guys surrounding you.

While the game isn't perfect, some of the crap you hear on the other boards is hilarious. People complaining about the sidelines - "the players are fat - they just stand there", or aesthetics - "are there players with long hair?!" - if those are the issues you have, SHUT UP. My goodness, by far the most important thing is GAMEPLAY.

It's not NCAA Fashion Show 2008.

[Logan]

Exactly...to each his own. Minor stuff totally would've bothered me as a 15 year old playing NCAA 98 or whatever, but it's just not a concern to me anymore (and just for clarity I'll say that my reference is in no way to indicate anyone is being immature by being bothered by such things).

[jbmagic]

I haven't seen too many. You just have to cover up when there are 50 guys surrounding you.

While the game isn't perfect, some of the crap you hear on the other boards is hilarious. People complaining about the sidelines - "the players are fat - they just stand there", or aesthetics - "are there players with long hair?!" - if those are the issues you have, SHUT UP. My goodness, by far the most important thing is GAMEPLAY.

It's not NCAA Fashion Show 2008.

Beside Gameplay, also important is the sim engine especially for Dynasty mode.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

While the game isn't perfect, some of the crap you hear on the other boards is hilarious. People complaining about the sidelines - "the players are fat - they just stand there", or aesthetics - "are there players with long hair?!" - if those are the issues you have, SHUT UP. My goodness, by far the most important thing is GAMEPLAY.

It's not NCAA Fashion Show 2008.

Totally agree with this. I really wish the developers would use relatively minimal textures/polygons on the crowd and sidelines so that the on-field play was the best it could be and was the focus of the game's processing power. I'll take a terrible crowd look and great on-field gameplay anyday.

[DanGarion]

Totally agree with this. I really wish the developers would use relatively minimal textures/polygons on the crowd and sidelines so that the on-field play was the best it could be and was the focus of the game's processing power. I'll take a terrible crowd look and great on-field gameplay anyday.

But people always bitch that there are no sideline animations. They cry about it year after year.

[rowech]

I haven't seen too many. You just have to cover up when there are 50 guys surrounding you.

While the game isn't perfect, some of the crap you hear on the other boards is hilarious. People complaining about the sidelines - "the players are fat - they just stand there", or aesthetics - "are there players with long hair?!" - if those are the issues you have, SHUT UP. My goodness, by far the most important thing is GAMEPLAY.

It's not NCAA Fashion Show 2008.

My one beef on this was that on some shots, it looked as if USC's helmets didn't even have the Trojan on it for the guys on the sideline. That's bad.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Totally agree with this. I really wish the developers would use relatively minimal textures/polygons on the crowd and sidelines so that the on-field play was the best it could be and was the focus of the game's processing power. I'll take a terrible crowd look and great on-field gameplay anyday.

I agree. I know a couple of games added those fan reaction shots during the game. It was kind of cool the first few times, but the number of fan reactions shots were so limited that it grew old very quickly.

[TroyF]

Actually, MizzouRah is the one who likes the 2K7 game. I currenly play the PS3 version of The Show. We both wear black and gold to work every day, so I can see how you were confused.


I knew which Mizzou I meant. It was Rah. We have to many damned Mizzou's on the board.

Don't think I would assume you'd buy a 360 for MLB2K7 :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Maybe I didn't read closely enough earlier in the thread, but I thought the fumble issue was that there weren't enough fumbles. So are there too many or too few?


Too many fumbles is the complaint. Most of them coming from Hart on Michigan. Shrug, some people see huge numbers, others say that if they use the cover button they are seeing realistic numbers.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Too many fumbles is the complaint. Most of them coming from Hart on Michigan. Shrug, some people see huge numbers, others say that if they use the cover button they are seeing realistic numbers.

He never fumbles! I sense an anti-Michigan conspiracy.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I guess we'll just need to use the cover button this year. I know that the real Mike Hart never loses a fumble, but that's got to be because he works extra hard to hold on to the football. I suppose this is EA's way of making us work a little harder to hold the ball. I haven't played the demo, but I hope it turns out to be OK.

Now, it would be pretty bizarre if, in the full game, only Mike Hart fumbled the ball too much. Imagine if all the other running backs were fine. That would be a legendary blunder by EA Sports. :D

[Kodos]

Hart fumbled a lot for me, and, oddly enough, I had much better luck running with his backup, #24. And I'm not sure if I was using the correct button to protect the ball. Isn't it the right shoulder button?

[jbmagic]

I guess we'll just need to use the cover button this year. I know that the real Mike Hart never loses a fumble, but that's got to be because he works extra hard to hold on to the football. I suppose this is EA's way of making us work a little harder to hold the ball. I haven't played the demo, but I hope it turns out to be OK.

Now, it would be pretty bizarre if, in the full game, only Mike Hart fumbled the ball too much. Imagine if all the other running backs were fine. That would be a legendary blunder by EA Sports. :D

Cover button might help human players to fumble less, but its not going to help the AI from fumbling if they don't use it.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Cover button might help human players to fumble less, but its not going to help the AI from fumbling if they don't use it.
That's a good point. So I guess I wonder if any of the complaints involve Hart fumbling too much when the CPU is Michigan. Has anybody read anything on that?

[cartman]

I haven't had a RB fumble, but each QB did fumble the first time they were hit.

I like how the QBs will pull the ball back if there is a lot of pressure. In years past you could wait until the last possible second to throw.

[TroyF]

That's a good point. So I guess I wonder if any of the complaints involve Hart fumbling too much when the CPU is Michigan. Has anybody read anything on that?

Just not seeing it. I've played two games as USC and Hart didn't fumble a single time.

I've had him fumble one time with me as Michigan. (about 4 or 5 games) I haven't used the cover button once.

[CraigSca]

jb, are you seeing this yourself or just harping on what you've read others say?

I personally haven't seen it.

[Anthony]

i played 2 games. i only had one fumble with Michigan, and it was a realistic scenario for the ball to have been fumbled (running into a crowd of defenders rather than away from it). i had a lot of INTS though, but i'll chalk it up to the difficulty level not being high enough. the game played nice though, should be lots of fun. playbook over the instant replay is stupid and i agree the AI takes snapshots/pics of some non-interesting things.

[MizzouRah]

It's weird, because NCAA 07 was unplayable for me because of the 30 fps and lack of control I felt, but NHL 07 at 30 fps, although still has some lack of control issues, is fine as far as gameplay is concerned. (although NHL 2k7 is MUCH better control wise at 60 fps.

Played the demo and the control is back! It's going to be interesting to read reviews of the 360 version vs the ps3 version.

I hated the playcalling screen at first, but I'm liking it more and more now as I get used to it. Haven't seen many fumbles yet.. passing seems great imho - too many times college qb's seem like NFL qb's in NCAA, not this time. Short passes are the way to go with an occasional bomb thrown in.

I think the game is on varsity, so I'm interested to see how the AI plays on higher levels. With the gameplay and new recruiting, I think I'll be happy this year. (it is annoying to see slowdowns at times.. it doesn't affect the game, but I'm not sure why we are still seeing slowdowns in next gen games.. maybe when they put the games on HD in the future, those will go away?)

Feels like college... plays like college and the control is like night and day vs last years game.

[DanGarion]

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U3uoAKBI9o

Ncaa Football commercial.

[SirFozzie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX2LjWPELXo&NR=1\
adrian peterson's one. Apparently they're going with "What could have been"

[Ksyrup]

I just saw an Adrian Peterson one, with a Longhorns fan gang-tackling him on every play.

[SirFozzie]

With the Boise State play now in the game, is the Wrong Ball Play in there, too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YnnnnyMjCw&mode=related&search=

[Eaglesfan27]

Fairdale Kings has posted on OS that he will have the game early tomorrow and that he should have 360 rosters ready for the official release day next Tuesday :)

[kingnebwsu]

Awesome!!!

Stupid EA has disappointed me with every football game for years, and I may be a sucker and buy this one because of all of the improvements. Could I just enjoy myself playing various forms of the Campus Legend mode? Or trying to build a monster out of a crappy team? I wanna be Ohio State but I think the way NCAA Football has been in the past won't allow me to do a dynasty with them, but we'll see.

Will probably search for an early copy on my day off, even though I'm still playing the hell out of College Hoops 2k7...

[Pumpy Tudors]

I downloaded the demo and played through most of the first quarter (the quarters are only two minutes long in the demo). On my first carry with Mike Hart, I fumbled, and USC returned it for a touchdown. On the next possession, my QB - Chad Henne, I guess - got sacked and fumbled, but he recovered it himself. I don't think I'd ever seen a player recover his own fumble in one of these video games before, so that was cool.

Anyway, I'm not alarmed about the fumble from Hart, but I've got to admit that I was surprised.

[Dr. Sak]

After hearing about all the fumbles people were having with Mike Hart I decided to do a bit of research.

In his career, Hart has rushed for 3,679 yards, which ranks sixth in school history. His 27 career rushing touchdowns are ninth-best in Michigan annals. Hart has lost a fumble only one time, against Iowa on September 25, 2004, in 750 collegiate carries.

Glad they added realism to this one.

[MizzouRah]

After hearing about all the fumbles people were having with Mike Hart I decided to do a bit of research.



Glad they added realism to this one.

The demo plays like it's on the "varsity" level which could equate the fumbles issue. Again, I've played 4 games and don't see the issue so far.

We'll see what the retail version is like.

[Phototropic]

Additionally I seem to remember early builds reporting higher than expected fumbles, so perhaps they were apart of the demo as well. I'm not sure at what part of development they start working on the demo.

I certainly can't imagine them releasing a game with this many fumbles.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I wonder how many times Mike Hart has fumbled in his college career. I know that he's only lost one fumble, but how many fumbles has his own team recovered? I'm not trying to justify all the fumbles that people find in the video game. I'm just curious.

[Eaglesfan27]

FWIW, the two guys who are confirmed to have the game on OS report a lower number of fumbles that is more realistic. One of them also says the game plays better than the demo and doesn't have the noticable pause between plays. I'm finally checking out the demo tonight. I can't wait to play the retail version on Tuesday.

[Dr. Sak]

This thread is really tempting me to buy XBox 360 instead of just playing it another year on PS2.

[jbmagic]

The game doesn't know names, just ratings. I wonder what Mike Hart rating is in the game.

[Ksyrup]

Does anyone have any info on the final changes to the PS2 version? I've done some searching and haven't seen anything, but if any of you have come across something, please post it here. Thanks.

[Phototropic]

One of them also says the game plays better than the demo and doesn't have the noticable pause between plays.
That sounds great. I've noticed some of the pausing seems to result from displaying the button control mapping that they've liked to use all the time the last 2 years. We can probably disable that by changing the control scheme slightly like last year.

[Eaglesfan27]

Does anyone have any info on the final changes to the PS2 version? I've done some searching and haven't seen anything, but if any of you have come across something, please post it here. Thanks.


I've been keeping an eye out as I know you are interested, but I've seen very little info. Most people say it is 2007.5 with few changes. The biggest changes appear to be auto motion, a new QB evade move, and it seems the recruiting has changed to using hours, but is not significantly different from last year.

[Ksyrup]

I've been keeping an eye out as I know you are interested, but I've seen very little info. Most people say it is 2007.5 with few changes. The biggest changes appear to be auto motion, a new QB evade move, and it seems the recruiting has changed to using hours, but is not significantly different from last year.

Thanks. Do you know whether the PS2 will have the in-game sim option? If the other changes aren't a big deal and they haven't screwed up the 2007 gameplay, I may get it just for the sim option. If not, I may just pass and play the 2007 version this year.

[Eaglesfan27]

Conflicting information re: Supersim in different threads, but most people seem to say it is in the PS2 and Xbox versions. Here is the most detailed impressions I've seen of the PS2 version on OS (you need to register over there to view it):

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=209792

[TroyF]

After hearing about all the fumbles people were having with Mike Hart I decided to do a bit of research.



Glad they added realism to this one.

Example A of why I sim through 5 seasons and get a completely fictional universe. I don't trust EA to get one team right, much less 110 teams worth of players. No thanks.

Just sim, sim away and start playing with a fictional roster for me. :)

[DanGarion]

This thread is really tempting me to buy XBox 360 instead of just playing it another year on PS2.

DO it! Buy the 360! I dare you!

[Ksyrup]

Conflicting information re: Supersim in different threads, but most people seem to say it is in the PS2 and Xbox versions. Here is the most detailed impressions I've seen of the PS2 version on OS (you need to register over there to view it):

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=209792

Thanks. I saw you mention OS a few times earlier, but didn't know if it was worth registering for. I'll check it out.

[CraigSca]

It's kind of frustrating in some of those impression threads. People keep asking the same already answered questions and the ones that I find interesting seem to be ignored.

If I hear one more person ask about I-AA teams (no, they're not in NG) or about a particular teams a) playbook b) ratings for their top 5 players c) hair length, I'm going to scream.

[Eaglesfan27]

It's kind of frustrating in some of those impression threads. People keep asking the same already answered questions and the ones that I find interesting seem to be ignored.

If I hear one more person ask about I-AA teams (no, they're not in NG) or about a particular teams a) playbook b) ratings for their top 5 players c) hair length, I'm going to scream.

The reaction to your humorous questions in there was priceless. Some guys have no sense of irony or sarcasm. ;)

[Kodos]

Yep. I hate the ratings questions, and guys who complain about no clear visors. Get a life!!!

[CraigSca]

The reaction to your humorous questions in there was priceless. Some guys have no sense of irony or sarcasm. ;)

Yeah, I was kind of surprised no one understood when I asked for BYU's top five players and their hair/sock lengths.

[MizzouRah]

FWIW, the two guys who are confirmed to have the game on OS report a lower number of fumbles that is more realistic. One of them also says the game plays better than the demo and doesn't have the noticable pause between plays. I'm finally checking out the demo tonight. I can't wait to play the retail version on Tuesday.

Great news!

I can't wait either. Not sure if I want to get the necessary tools to get the real rosters or just start with fake names.

[Ksyrup]

For some reason, with college, I couldn't care less about real players. Maybe it's because they go away pretty quickly, or that 95% of the players on 115 teams I don't know anyway.

[jbmagic]

From Operation Sports.

First Impression thread who has the retail game already.


Stats look pretty good to me:

No QB went over 4,000 yards. QB with most TD passes (Chad Henne) was 43 but he had 11 INTs. NO QBs had 2 or 3 INTs for an entire season. Every top QB had at least 7 INTs. QB ratings look much more realistic.

McFadden went over 2,000 yards rushing but next highest RB had 1,700 yards. There were some ridiculous ypc averages for the top RBs....like 8 ypc.

Top WR had 1600 yards and 16 TDs. YPC were much mroe realistic than last year. No 20 ypc WRs.

Top OL had 34 pancake blocks but I didn't play any of the games so I can't speak to whether the insane pancake blocks for user teams will show up or not.

One thing that bothered me was tackles. Maybe it was because they sim 5:00 quarters because the leading tackler in the country had 90 tackles.

Player with the most INTs had 9. Again INTs may go up when the user is playing.

[Eaglesfan27]

Many more impressions on OS as about a half dozen people have the game over there now. Most of them sound very good. A few of my favorites that have been mentioned by multiple people: Jump balls are much more realistic. Trick formations make good use of automotion. Also, bad CPU kickers are missing even intermediate kicks wide. The game is saving all of the plays to review at the end - at least on 5 minute quarters you can go back to any play in the game and review it from 8 different angles. Also, multiple people have confirmed the delay that was in the demo with the play calling screen is gone.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

Forgot my favorite 2 impressions: The CPU will punt from the 35 if it is 4th and long and they have a weak FG kicker. Also, the CPU reportedly seems to be running a good hurry up offense when they are behind and time is running low with more passing towards the sidelines.

[kingnebwsu]

Hopefully the game turns out well...I hope IGN/Gamespot posts a review on Friday (even though they're slammed with E3...lucky timing for EA?)

I have Friday off so I'll see if anywhere is selling it early. EFan, are our College Hoops 2k7 days numbered? :)

[WVUFAN]

For what it's worth, I have the game (got it at a local Wal-Mart just before work), if anyone has questions. I won't be able to answer them until I get home (I'm at work right now).

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm trying to convince myself not to go hunting for the game, but it's hard. I never find it early, but I just have fun going around town to search for it. It's pointless, though. The only places within 20 miles of me are Target, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, EB/GameStop, Toys R Us, and Best Buy. You know EB and Best Buy aren't gonna budge. Target is a crapshoot. Sam's Club had the game out on the shelf early last year, but their register rejected the sale, so I assume that Wal-Mart's will do the same. The Toys R Us people around here are generally clueless about new video games, so that's my best hope, but they've told me in the past that they usually get their video game shipments on Mondays, so they don't even bother to look around if it's not a Monday or Tuesday.

Just for fun, I'll probably go searching anyway. Silly me. :)

Edit: Err, after reading WVUFAN's post, I guess I'm wrong about Wal-Mart. :D

[WVUFAN]

I'm trying to convince myself not to go hunting for the game, but it's hard. I never find it early, but I just have fun going around town to search for it. It's pointless, though. The only places within 20 miles of me are Target, Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, EB/GameStop, Toys R Us, and Best Buy. You know EB and Best Buy aren't gonna budge. Target is a crapshoot. Sam's Club had the game out on the shelf early last year, but their register rejected the sale, so I assume that Wal-Mart's will do the same. The Toys R Us people around here are generally clueless about new video games, so that's my best hope, but they've told me in the past that they usually get their video game shipments on Mondays, so they don't even bother to look around if it's not a Monday or Tuesday.

Just for fun, I'll probably go searching anyway. Silly me. :)

Edit: Err, after reading WVUFAN's post, I guess I'm wrong about Wal-Mart. :D

I have a friend who works there, and it didn't have a problem going through, although I'm not sure if he did something special to make it work.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hopefully the game turns out well...I hope IGN/Gamespot posts a review on Friday (even though they're slammed with E3...lucky timing for EA?)

I have Friday off so I'll see if anywhere is selling it early. EFan, are our College Hoops 2k7 days numbered? :)

I'd still play College Hoops 2k7, but it would be much less if this game turns out as well as it sounds like it might. Unless there are major advancements in College Hoops 2k8, I'm going to skip it and just continue my 07 dynasty.

[bignej]

I just found NCAA 08 at a C&C games in Fremont Ohio for anyone who lives nearby.

[Balldog]

I'm back in Findlay and that's only about a 40 minute drive!

[bignej]

They said they close at 8. BTW, These guys were fully aware they are selling early and seemed surprised I only wanted 1 copy.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hilarious. I'm reading the NCAA impressions thread over at OS, and I see this post from jbmagic. It is word for word exactly the same post that I put in a questions thread in Madden's Community Day on their forum:

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Hilarious. I'm reading the NCAA impressions thread over at OS, and I see this post from jbmagic. It is word for word exactly the same post that I put in a questions thread in Madden's Community Day on their forum:

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yep

I didn't see it get answer where you posted it at, so I posted that great question in the NCAA Impressions Forum.

[CraigSca]

Wait. I don't get it. What draft are we referring to in NCAA? Is that a new feature in 08? Do they also have the Grand Slam Challenge?

[MizzouRah]

The cut and paste master!

[Emiliano]

For what it's worth, I have the game (got it at a local Wal-Mart just before work), if anyone has questions. I won't be able to answer them until I get home (I'm at work right now).

Impressions? Come on, I know you're still up playing it... :D Which version do you have, PS3?

[bignej]

OK so after spending an hour putting in Ohio State's roster I fired up a game. (editing takes longer it seems). Here are a few impressions from my OSU-MICH game:

- Graphics are alot better and the games moves really smooth(as if that says anything)
- To see play art before the snap, you hold right trigger and flick the right stick up(sort of annoying)
- Plays will auto-motion receivers and backs before the snap
- I fumbled(and lost) the ball twice and threw 4 picks, I feel like I have to relearn how to play offensively.
- Running is fun but I hope the fumbles were a fluke, I don't want to have to remember to press the protect ball button everytime I run. Also I couldn't switch hands when running down the sideline.
- Chad Henne killed me, Maybe AA level was a little optimistic.
-No sacks from 10 yards away that I could tell(and I was sacked about 5 times)
- Only 1 pass interference was called all game and that was legit when I picked it off and ran it back.

One Play stood out in particular for me: Henne threw into the endzone and the reciever jumped up and had it at the peak. I hit sticked him low and the guy flipped(looked like I broke his neck). First time I actually jumped out of my seat for a video game hit in a long time. That was nice.

I played 1 dynasty game, againts FCS Midwest, and won 70-0. Best thing about that was I started simming when I was up 30-0 in the 2Q. The computer subbed in all of my backups without me telling it to(I was really worried about this)

[bignej]

To touch on the recruiting, u select 35 guys by searching or the old method to your target list. I'm sure it was the sheer # of recruits, but it seemed a little slow. I always got into a rythm in recruiting in older versions but this seemed like an awful lot of work. You can select Recruiting assistance, offer assistance, and visit assistance(i think that was the third). It alows you to create a prospect before preseason recruiting initially if thats your thing.

If anyone has specific Q's on gameplay please ask, I am going from memory and I was drinking heavily.

[BYU 14]

Anyone that got an early copy have a PS3 version?

[MizzouRah]

To see play art before the snap, you hold right trigger and flick the right stick up(sort of annoying)


Nooooooo!!! I was hoping that wouldn't be in the final version.

[Ironhead]

I am going to go ahead and buy the the 360 for this game and then get All Pro 2k8 in a month or so.

Does anyone have any recommendations on where I should buy it? I do not plan on buying an extended warranty from the store so that doesn't have to play into it. Since I am going to be dropping over $450 for the 360 and NCAA is there a store that would bundle it with a free year of Xbox Live or something along those lines?

Thanks for any suggestions.

[kingnebwsu]

I'd still play College Hoops 2k7, but it would be much less if this game turns out as well as it sounds like it might. Unless there are major advancements in College Hoops 2k8, I'm going to skip it and just continue my 07 dynasty.

I'm gonna play it pretty much just like that :)

[MizzouRah]

I am going to go ahead and buy the the 360 for this game and then get All Pro 2k8 in a month or so.

Does anyone have any recommendations on where I should buy it? I do not plan on buying an extended warranty from the store so that doesn't have to play into it. Since I am going to be dropping over $450 for the 360 and NCAA is there a store that would bundle it with a free year of Xbox Live or something along those lines?

Thanks for any suggestions.

I would try a local Gamestop or EB Games.

[Logan]

I am going to go ahead and buy the the 360 for this game and then get All Pro 2k8 in a month or so.

Does anyone have any recommendations on where I should buy it? I do not plan on buying an extended warranty from the store so that doesn't have to play into it. Since I am going to be dropping over $450 for the 360 and NCAA is there a store that would bundle it with a free year of Xbox Live or something along those lines?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Starting Sunday, Circuit City will be giving a free year of XBox Live with the purchase of any 360 system.

I'm in Marlboro...we can meet up at the CC in Freehold and buy the system at the same time :).

[Eaglesfan27]

The impressions on OS are insane. I'm not sure I've ever had such a high level of anticipation for a console football game.

[rowech]

The impressions on OS are insane. I'm not sure I've ever had such a high level of anticipation for a console football game.

I've tried to find the links you're talking about but with no luck. Can you post a link?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I've tried to find the links you're talking about but with no luck. Can you post a link?

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/index.php

[Eaglesfan27]

It's almost a thousand post thread (in just a few days) and you need to be logged in to view it:

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=211312&page=92


A few of my favorite tidbits from it that immediately come to mind:

- A guy was dominating with his HB (I forget which one) and was running well with him as well as throwing little screens to him. The computer started putting 8 and 9 men in the box in obvious running situations and started double teaming him when he was spread out wide.

- When the computer has a lead, it is actually running down the play clock earlier than ever.

- People are getting decent results on All American with default sliders! They are getting very good results with just a few minor slider tweaks The only one that is routinely being adjusted is interceptions are being turned way down (which is one of flaws that remains.) However, with interception slider at 15, people are saying it is much better.

- The computer is actually sticking with the run if it is working and has run 40-50 times for a few hundred yards against one guy.

- Simmed stats look great. One other guy posted and besides the one's jb copied, there were ones in which rushing QB stats looked good, passing stats looked great, and defensive stats looked very solid.

- Some of the stories about mid air collisions sound amazing. One guy was running down the sideline with his FB and accidently hit the hurdle button and was nailed by a DB who flipped him over, but the FB had the presence of mind to reach out with his hand and put the ball inside the pylon for the TD.

- Players are slipping in rain and snow and people say that fatigue really seems well done, particularly in inclimate conditions.

- The biggest common complaint is too many interceptions which appears to be fixable with sliders, alternate uniforms which I frankly don't care about, and the lack of class editing which I also don't care about as starting rosters don't need to be perfect for me.

Oh yeah, the fake punt run play actually worked for someone for a 1st down. That play never worked in the past.

- Also, the Florida playbook sounds like it is quite fun to run as well as a few of the other more imaginative teams. Among many other interesting plays there is a WR option pass play.

[Logan]

and the lack of class editing which I also don't care about as starting rosters don't need to be perfect for me.

Not to nitpick, but this is something that has always bothered me. They know they get eligibility wrong, it's a foregone conclusion every year...why not just let us fix it? A couple years back I had to create an alternate Brian Leonard just so I could play with him for the right number of years.

[Kodos]

Man.... I can't wait for Tuesday...

[rowech]

It's almost a thousand post thread (in just a few days) and you need to be logged in to view it:



Well, that explains why I wasn't seeing it.

[Eaglesfan27]

Man.... I can't wait for Tuesday...

Me neither. A few of the other things that I forgot to put in the other post but have been excited to read:

- With 6 minute quarters on AA, guys are ending up with 10-7, 14-7 type games and even a few 6-3 games in the snow (which most people don't like as the snow is overdone and makes it impossible to see the sidelines.)

- 3rd and long is hard to convert and long passing is really difficult. Even on short and intermediate passes, QB's with lower accuracy ratings are missing guys in all directions. Finally, QB's aren't perfect with their throws.

- On AA with mild slider tweaks, experienced players are getting beat by the CPU. One guy just had Colt Brennan complete almost 70% against him and shred his defense for over 300 yards.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, I'm definitely going to be hunting a little bit this weekend. I'm sure I'll strike out like I do every year, but I'm going to give it a shot. I've tried one Wal-Mart and one Toys R Us. No sight of the game at either place. I'm going to try another Wal-Mart tonight or tomorrow, and I'll probably end up checking out Target and FYE as well.

[Ksyrup]

Against my better judgment, I might stop at Target and Wal-Mart on the way home. I'd really like to get it now because the family doesn't come home until Monday. After that, we're going on vacation in a couple of weeks - I'll probably wait for my birthday in mid-August.

[MizzouRah]

Thanks EF for all the impressions!!

Tuesday can't come quick enough. :)

[rowech]

Too long for me to read through (threat at OS) not having read from the start....did anyone mention anything about the little glitches between calling plays, etc. Are they gone in the final game?

[WVUFAN]

There's no glitches between plays so far.

This game, at AA, is HARD. Good lord. I'm in the second year of a dynasty (I simmed first year stats), and Va Tech just spanked me(I'm WVU) 34-14. Completely stopped my offense.

[Eaglesfan27]

Too long for me to read through (threat at OS) not having read from the start....did anyone mention anything about the little glitches between calling plays, etc. Are they gone in the final game?

Several people have said it is gone. One person says he sees it. Another says it is there, but it is less noticable. Shrug.

[Eaglesfan27]

Thanks EF for all the impressions!!

Tuesday can't come quick enough. :)


I'm just summarizing what other people said. I can't wait to form some of my own impressions. I can't wait for my upcoming 3 day weekend next week :)

[Kodos]

Is Walmart where people have been finding it? I may have to swing by...

[Eaglesfan27]

Is Walmart where people have been finding it? I may have to swing by...


I've heard of several from Walmart, several from Circuit City, and the majority seem to be mom and pop stores. I'm actually contemplating going 15 miles out of my way after work to check out a mom and pop store... I'll probably just call them instead to see what they say.

Edit: Most people who are getting it from places other than mom and pop stores, seem to have a connection at the store.

[Ironhead]

Starting Sunday, Circuit City will be giving a free year of XBox Live with the purchase of any 360 system.

I'm in Marlboro...we can meet up at the CC in Freehold and buy the system at the same time :).

Sounds like a plan - I have a wedding to attend in Red Bank on Sunday evening but could do it in the morning. I am thinking about doing a little hunting for NCAA after work.

[nilodor]

Check out this article on 5w-g about rosters for the 360. Especially Fairdales comment at the end. Sounds like they will get something figured out but it'll be difficult.

http://www.5w-g.com/?p=233

[Eaglesfan27]

Fairdale Kings has posted on OS that he already has the problem solved. Solving it took a few hours, so the rosters might be delayed a day or so.

[markprior22]

Fairdale has said he already has it figured out and it won't be a problem for this year.

[rowech]

Went out hoping to find it...no luck!

[Eaglesfan27]

Went out hoping to find it...no luck!


Ditto. I stopped at Walmart, Circuit City, and Target on the way home. All 3 had it, but they all said they couldn't sell it until the 17th. I'm done hunting. The 17th will be here soon.

[Emiliano]

Thanks. Do you know whether the PS2 will have the in-game sim option? If the other changes aren't a big deal and they haven't screwed up the 2007 gameplay, I may get it just for the sim option. If not, I may just pass and play the 2007 version this year.

That's basically my situation. IMO, the supersim feature is the biggest change they've made, ever. This is the first time in 4 years that I haven't pre-ordered. My favourite online store (Tronixweb) has discontinued the Xbox section, and I'd have to pay 55 € (75 $) on videogamesplus.ca to buy a game that costs 39.95 $ (29 €) in the US. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't feel right. Although I'm an NCAA Football nuts, I'm gonna hold off for now, and hear some impressions.

Obviously, if I get a PS3 (no imports on 360, even modded ones), I'd get NCAA 08 right away. But that's not gonna happen soon.

[BigDPW]

I tried Circuit City, Target, Wal-Mart, and Toy's R Us tonight with no luck. I was pretty close at TRU cause the lady there didn't know what she was doing but she couldn't find it in their inventory... Looking forward to Tuesday after reading the impression on OS.

[WVUFAN]

Videos are being posted via the My Shrine feature already:

http://www.easportsworld.com/#canvas_TopVideos

[JetsIn06]

Sounds like a plan - I have a wedding to attend in Red Bank on Sunday evening but could do it in the morning. I am thinking about doing a little hunting for NCAA after work.

My fellow Jerseyite (I think that's what we're called...)

I'm from Holmdel. Have you ever heard of Game Crazy? I'm pretty sure that's what it's called, but it's in Airport Plaza in Hazlet. They've ALWAYS had games a week in advance, so if I were you I'd give them a call or if you have time, take a trip over there to check it out.

[sooner333]

I went out hunting at Target, Wal-Mart, and Hastings. I just asked an employee if they had it in, and they all said that it comes out Tuesday. HOwever, I called Blockbuster and they said that, after checking their computer, it came out today, but they didn't get the shipment in yet. So, maybe I'll get it from them tomorrow if they get a Sat. shipment.

[Ironhead]

My fellow Jerseyite (I think that's what we're called...)

I'm from Holmdel. Have you ever heard of Game Crazy? I'm pretty sure that's what it's called, but it's in Airport Plaza in Hazlet. They've ALWAYS had games a week in advance, so if I were you I'd give them a call or if you have time, take a trip over there to check it out.

I actually tried to go there tonight but they were already closed. A poster on OperationSports said he got an early copy there. I am thinking about going tomorrow morning. The fact that it is less than 10 minutes from my apartment doesn't hurt.

[Logan]

If you do, and you find it, please post here. I'm kinda busy tomorrow but I could take a ride out later in the day or Sunday morning. Thanks!

[BYU 14]

Some sweet highlights on EAsportsworld. All 360 though :(

A lot of them are interceptions, which has usually been mentioned as the most serious gameplay issue with Sliders on default.

[Ironhead]

Just called my local store and they have copies. Going to go pick one up now.

EDIT: Scored. Now I actually have to get a 360 to play it.

[Logan]

Just called my local store and they have copies. Going to go pick one up now.

EDIT: Scored. Now I actually have to get a 360 to play it.

Same here. That was an interesting place. Were there a pack of kids debating Magic cards when you were there? Judging by their complexion, I don't think they leave that place much.

Noticed that my "receipt" was just a CC slip showing the amount paid, with no mention of it being for NCAA 08. No paper trail to get busted, I guess.

[Eaglesfan27]

I know quite a few people (myself included with the demo) who were/are having trouble throwing lob passes. According to the EA community rep's posts on OS, the producers have taken out lead passing. Now, you have to tap the button and press up on the L stick to throw a lob pass instead of a bullet.

[Ironhead]

Same here. That was an interesting place. Were there a pack of kids debating Magic cards when you were there? Judging by their complexion, I don't think they leave that place much.

Noticed that my "receipt" was just a CC slip showing the amount paid, with no mention of it being for NCAA 08. No paper trail to get busted, I guess.

It had a very "hole in the wall" kinda feel to it, straight down to the pawn shop looking neon sign out front. Very dark inside. No one else was there when I went in this morning.

Probably going to go to Circuit City around 10 AM when the store opens.

[Logan]

Agree on the shadiness of that place. Good to know though in case I ever want another game early. Oh, wear a shirt that says "Ironhead" and I'll say hi.

[BYU 14]

I pre-ordered from Best Buy on-line and thought I would try and snake my copy early. I called and lied, saying I received my confirmation Email that it was ready for pick-up. I then asked innocently "So you can get the Pre-Order before release?"

She was confused and put me on hold to go check. Came back and said they just got the shipment in, and since I received my Pick-up notice they would have it ready for me first thing tomorrow Morning.....only saving 2 Days, but I have a whole Day to play....woohoo!

I know you need to take the email in to get it, but since I have ordered from then before and save all that stuff, some simple editing on an old order confirmation and I will be set :)

[MizzouRah]

This uploading of videos to EA's site through the game could really make interesting dynasty threads.

I've been watching many of them today.

[Kodos]

Yep. Those are neat. Is there a limit to how many you can have?

[TroyF]

I know quite a few people (myself included with the demo) who were/are having trouble throwing lob passes. According to the EA community rep's posts on OS, the producers have taken out lead passing. Now, you have to tap the button and press up on the L stick to throw a lob pass instead of a bullet.

Ya know, this isn't going to have a huge impact on the game. I think once I get used to it, I'll be ok.

But WTF EA? Of all the things to change, they change something that was never broke? It's simple, tap for a lob, hold for a bullet. . . it has never been a difficult thing to grasp.

Strange, strage, strange freakin decision.

[Hoya1]

anyone tried the PS3 game yet?

[kingnebwsu]

I think it was already mentioned, but it's all about pressure sensitivity with regards to the lob/bullet pass. Tough to get used to indeed, but I got it to work yesterday (in the demo).

[WVUFAN]

Yep. Those are neat. Is there a limit to how many you can have?

5 at a time, but the videos are all downloadable as flash movies.

[sabotai]

5 at a time, but the videos are all downloadable as flash movies.

(cartman's voice) Sweet! (/cartman's voice)

[Ironhead]

I think once I get the buttons down on this game it is going to be a lot of fun. Just played about a 2 quarters of a Georgia v Georgia Tech game. The CPU was able to string together a couple of nice 8+ play drives using a good mix of run and pass.

I am really digging the player interaction and the gang tackling. As a whole this is leaps and bounds above anything on the older consoles.

[Ironhead]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477

[cartman]

(cartman's voice) Sweet! (/cartman's voice)

Stop putting words in my mouth. :)

If anything, it's freakin' sweet. Tits, even.

[vex]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477

Loved that stiff arm.

[korme]

Anyone got it for PS2?

[sooner333]

I'm working out of town this week and staying at a relatives house. I was just going to hold out on the game until Thursday night, but I think I am going to have to bring the 360 down there with me and hope I can get the game at the Wal-Mart on Tuesday morning. The town is 6,500 people and I think Wal-Mart may be the only place to buy games unless Movie Gallery sells them.

[Phototropic]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477
That was great.

[jbmagic]

Auto Motion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeurBUEAVIE

[nilodor]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477

Someone needs to start a dynasty utilizing this feature.

[Ironhead]

Someone needs to start a dynasty utilizing this feature.

I am going to do one eventually, but I am going to name the rosters myself so it will probably be a couple of weeks from now. I also need to work some kinks out of my capture card. It is not quite capturing everything up to snuff right now.

[Pumpy Tudors]

My hunt is over. I struck out again. I just went to GameStop, paid off the rest of my preorder, and resigned myself to going back tomorrow night right before midnight to pick it up.

I'm going to be dead at work on Tuesday, because I don't know for how long this game will keep me up tomorrow night. :D

[Izulde]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477

That was awesome.

I've noticed they seem to have improved markedly over last year's version in terms of graphics.

[BYU 14]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477


That was a thing of beauty!

[MizzouRah]

Great video!

I really want this friggin game.. and NOW!!

I might just name the Mizzou rosters and then go from there. Seems like there isn't going to be much tweaking to do besides putting the game on AA defaults and going.

A dynasty thread just might be in my future!

[Anthony]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477

how come that looks 120x better than what i get in my demo? did they improve the graphics or something in the final version? these uploaded clips are where i can really see the 60 FPS come into play. very very smooth.

[jbmagic]

Great video!

I really want this friggin game.. and NOW!!

I might just name the Mizzou rosters and then go from there. Seems like there isn't going to be much tweaking to do besides putting the game on AA defaults and going.

A dynasty thread just might be in my future!

Might have to mess with the penalties sliders.

[jbmagic]

Circuit city has a special going on this week. Buy NCAA 2008 and get a $10 gift card instantly.

[Logan]

I can't believe I was able to set up this wireless adapter thing. I'm up on XBL as RBS05 if anyone's ready for an easy win.

[Eaglesfan27]

how come that looks 120x better than what i get in my demo? did they improve the graphics or something in the final version? these uploaded clips are where i can really see the 60 FPS come into play. very very smooth.


Many people in the impressions thread have said that the game is "significantly" more refined and better looking than the demo.

[Emiliano]

Anyone with Xbox/PS2 impressions?

[Eaglesfan27]

dola

Cool run I just had.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-861/HOME/477


Very nice run.

[Ksyrup]

Anyone with Xbox/PS2 impressions?

What he said.

I see that the pricing is $60 for the next gen, $50 for PS2, and $40 for XBox.

Oh, and Meijer (a regional Target/Wal-Mart type store) is running a deal with $10 off Madden if you buy NCAA.

[Eaglesfan27]

FWIW, there are PS2 specific and Xbox specific impression threads over at OS in the NCAA 08 forum. Not many people have the current gen versions yet, so there are only about 30 posts in each of those threads.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, I was just about to post that. I'm over there right now.

[Ksyrup]

Some impressions from the PS2 thread:

not much different. more fluid gang tackling, not to the extent of the next gens though.
the few screens I've run actually have linemen who block defenders which is nice.
can;t change control layout back to 06 like last year, which is taking some getting used to.
"motivation" is a new thing that increases attributes to groups on the team. but the impact players don't seem to change.
I haven't gone back to look at 07 but the rosters only have room for 70 players i thought it was 75 last year. not sure.
playbooks are basically the same. there are plays with automatic motion which is a nice touch leading to some WR sweeps off of the snap and such.


Quote:
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Are the recruiting upgrades in this version, or is that a next-gen thing?
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appears the same as next gen, dont hold me to that. but there is preseason recruiting, player promises, medical redshirts, summer training. I'll get into it once i finish my first dynasty year.

and i stand corrected about the in game impact players. I made a sack with a DT and the next play he appeared with a pulsing ring. the impact players now have stars but it was still different than normal.



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[Emiliano]

Some impressions from the PS2 thread:

not much different. more fluid gang tackling, not to the extent of the next gens though.
the few screens I've run actually have linemen who block defenders which is nice.
can;t change control layout back to 06 like last year, which is taking some getting used to.
"motivation" is a new thing that increases attributes to groups on the team. but the impact players don't seem to change.
I haven't gone back to look at 07 but the rosters only have room for 70 players i thought it was 75 last year. not sure.
playbooks are basically the same. there are plays with automatic motion which is a nice touch leading to some WR sweeps off of the snap and such.


Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by lanny7207 http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?p=3234898#post3234898)
Are the recruiting upgrades in this version, or is that a next-gen thing?
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
appears the same as next gen, dont hold me to that. but there is preseason recruiting, player promises, medical redshirts, summer training. I'll get into it once i finish my first dynasty year.

and i stand corrected about the in game impact players. I made a sack with a DT and the next play he appeared with a pulsing ring. the impact players now have stars but it was still different than normal.



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Nice. Still no confirmation if the supersim feature is in???

[Ksyrup]

Not from that thread, no.

[Ksyrup]

I just posted the question in the PS2 thread. I'll let you know if I get an answer.

[Emiliano]

I just posted the question in the PS2 thread. I'll let you know if I get an answer.

Good. I've posted one in a thread on MaddenMania.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Only 28 hours until the game is in my hands. Yay for Eastern time zone!

[GoDukes]

Testing this out. A video I just did. Look at the blocking at the bottom of the screen, looks good.

http://www.easportsworld.com/#video-899/HOME/503

[Ksyrup]

Heh, someone posted this over at OS:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20061218.jpg

[Ksyrup]

It's going to take me some time to get used to the arcade-type people over at OS. I posted that question about the quick-sim, and then after that, someone posted a question asking for Southern Miss's individual roster ratings. Someone took the time to compile all of that info and post it before responding to my simple yes or no question (which remains unanswered at this point).

[jbmagic]

I just posted the question in the PS2 thread. I'll let you know if I get an answer.

Thanks ParticleHustler :)

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, that's my name pretty much everywhere but here.

[jbmagic]

Looks like the glitches are being posted at Operation Sports now.

NCAA 08 Official Bugs and Glitches Thread (360 and PS3)
http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=211898

Need to register to view.

[CraigSca]

I've looked at that thread for the past couple days and I've yet to see anything significant. Mind you, if that PAT bug, where the guy snaps it off the screen occurs frequently, that would blow. But I can't imagine it happens too often (despite the last poster) because all these other people have yet to mention it.

Btw, got my call from Gamestop that they're opening at midnight on Tuesday. I just can't do that - I'll pick it up the following morning :).

[jbmagic]

Some glitches/bugs being reported on the 360 so far.

1) Bad glitch I was going for an extra point to tie the game 17-17 but the center turned sideways and the ball was snapped 20 yards back, and the announcers said "incomplete pass" I was like WTF I am going for an extra point. Next thing you know I am kicking the ball off down 1 point 17-16 I lose the game.

2)Was playing a game in dynasty and got roughing the kicker called on me in OT. The game did a kickoff... Then just gave me the ball on 25.. Weird.

3)End of half CPU AI has me scratching my head right now. CPU completed a long pass to my 15 yard line for a first down and had a second left. Since the clock stopped due to a first down, they should have had plenty of time to call a timeout to set up for a field goal, they had two timeouts. Nope, they simply let the clock run out.

4)I seen the extra point bug yet again OMG this is occuring way more then I would like. Going for an extra point and the holder turns to his side and the ball gets snapped 20 yards back no one is there to get it, then the announcer says incomplete pass next thing you know I am kicking off and dont even get to attempt the PAT! OH NO
Happened on my very first game, and now its has happened on my 2nd!

[Logan]

I've played 5 games, been scored on plenty, and haven't seen that XP bug.

[Phototropic]

I got the PAT bug in the demo once in about 6 or 7 games, so I'm somewhat concerned.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've looked at that thread for the past couple days and I've yet to see anything significant. Mind you, if that PAT bug, where the guy snaps it off the screen occurs frequently, that would blow. But I can't imagine it happens too often (despite the last poster) because all these other people have yet to mention it.

Btw, got my call from Gamestop that they're opening at midnight on Tuesday. I just can't do that - I'll pick it up the following morning :).


Yeah, I've been following that thread as well. So far, I haven't seen anything that has me worried. I really want to do the midnight pickup, but I have to be at work by 8 the next morning. So, I'll just pick it up Tuesday during my lunch hour.

[MizzouRah]

I always take OS member thoughts with a grain of salt.

Most of them spend more time trying to find a significant bug then they do playing the game.

[CraigSca]

JB,

It seems you have some kind of perverse satisfaction in dispelling the enthusiasm of others regarding this game. You, my friend, lead the league in NCAA schadenfreude.

[Eaglesfan27]

FYI,

Fairdale Kings has posted an update on his progress. The issue with copying rosters cost him some time and he is now anticipating a Weds. release of his roster. A late Tuesday night release is his most optimistic estimate.

[jbmagic]

Its being reported at Operation Sports NCAA Impression thread Xbox 360 that the cpu doesn't seem to go deep much. Sometimes they will go a whole game without throwing deep down the field.

[Groundhog]

Its being reported at Operation Sports NCAA Impression thread Xbox 360 that the cpu doesn't seem to go deep much.

Sounds like the AI is borrowing the playbook of a girl I used to date back in high school...

[Emiliano]

It seems like the supersim feature is NOT in the PS2/Xbox version of the game. Very, very disappointing.

MaddenMania thread (http://www.maddenmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162709)

OS thread (http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=211904)

Maybe I misread it, but I really thought this was a feature for all versions. :(

[Ksyrup]

Damn, I think I'll just stick with 2007 then. I had fun for several months, I just need to find a team I can do well with AND that gets a chance to play for the title.

[Anthony]

JB,

It seems you have some kind of perverse satisfaction in dispelling the enthusiasm of others regarding this game. You, my friend, lead the league in NCAA schadenfreude.

yeah, seriously, he's a killjoy.

i'm gonna buy this game and enjoy it. it's called "game" for a reason. if this was my job then yeah, i'd be nitpicky. but i'm gonna play it and have fun and not care about pancakes, McGriddles or whatever else people like jb want to point out is wrong.

keep in mind EA is designing this game for die hards and casual fans both. so they have to consider the cost to focus on something only 50% of their buying customers will care about and the other 50% won't even notice.

just a game. if i was gonna be nitpicky about realism or minor bugs i'd be pissed there wasn't any frat parties and drunk college aged chicks with no morals in the game.

[Anthony]

Its being reported at Operation Sports NCAA Impression thread Xbox 360 that the cpu doesn't seem to go deep much. Sometimes they will go a whole game without throwing deep down the field.


your best bet is to experience the game for yourself and not read anything over at Operation Sports. did they detail the situations? maybe they were picking the right defense and the AI rightfully didn't attempt anything downfield. if it's not there, don't force it (words Rex Grossman should live by). also, were they playing teams that had weak QBs/WRs? maybe downfield plays weren't a featured part of the team's gameplan. i don't think you'd see Nebraska throwing bombs all game, if that's what you're looking for.

the people at OS are too nitpicky, and they're gonna spend their $60 on the game trying to be the 1st one to catch minor bug X than just enjoy their youth. at least i hope these are younger people doing this and not people with wives and mortgages.

[MizzouRah]

Its being reported at Operation Sports NCAA Impression thread Xbox 360 that the cpu doesn't seem to go deep much. Sometimes they will go a whole game without throwing deep down the field.

Find some other schtick.

[Anthony]

i'm telling you, i'm not putting any stock in these minor bug nonsense. i just want a good game of football to play. i can't tell you how many times i listened to all the internet chatter by nerdy killjoys who made me look at my perfectly decent game of Madden/NCAA and say "you know what, i can't possibly play with this (minor or insignificant) bug in this game. this is a piece of shit". no more. i don't have $60 to just throw away these days, so i'm gonna buy games and enjoy them for the hour or so of personal game time in my day and move on to other things like normal people should.

[rowech]

The only "bug" I've heard of that bugs me a little is the whole extra point thing. Other than that, it sounds like stuff that a person is going to have to really look for and at that, they're only nusiance bugs. The extra point one will be the only one that really ticks me off if it happens a lot. If it's their way to make sure missed extra points are in the game, there would have been other ways to do that.

[Logan]

Amen.

I'm having a blast with it, btw.

[Logan]

The only "bug" I've heard of that bugs me a little is the whole extra point thing. Other than that, it sounds like stuff that a person is going to have to really look for and at that, they're only nusiance bugs. The extra point one will be the only one that really ticks me off if it happens a lot. If it's their way to make sure missed extra points are in the game, there would have been other ways to do that.

Has anyone shown a video of this bug? Pretty simple to do with this version. Also, I've seen a "true" XP miss...playing against UConn and their kicker drilled the attempt off the upright. It was pathetic.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Less than 14 hours to go...

[TroyF]

Has anyone shown a video of this bug? Pretty simple to do with this version. Also, I've seen a "true" XP miss...playing against UConn and their kicker drilled the attempt off the upright. It was pathetic.


I had my elbow bumped on an extra point and hit the post.

At least that's my excuse.

[Logan]

Less than 14 hours to go...

I've been playing for 14 hours.

F the Pump!!!1!

[Pumpy Tudors]

I've been playing for 14 hours.

F the Pump!!!1!
You know, my conscience would allow me to kill you right now. It really would.

[Dr. Sak]

Pumpy where are you getting the game? I am debating going to the Walmart in Delmont at midnight to pick it up tonight.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Pumpy where are you getting the game? I am debating going to the Walmart in Delmont at midnight to pick it up tonight.
I have it reserved at GameStop in Greengate, right next to the Walmart there. I still haven't decided if I'm going to show up there around 11:00 to get some free chips and crappy soda (they had orange and grape Shasta for the Madden release last year), or maybe I'll just get there around 11:30 so I can get a decent spot in line.

Don't you want to take a ride down 66 and hang out in a parking lot for half an hour late at night?? :D

[MizzouRah]

My wife is really getting jealous of me and my 360's relationship.

[Pumpy Tudors]

My wife is going out of town for a week starting tomorrow. She's right on time. :D

[Kodos]

Don't know if the GameStop where I pre-ordered it has a midnight sale or not. If so, that might leave me with an interesting choice...

[Eaglesfan27]

Don't know if the GameStop where I pre-ordered it has a midnight sale or not. If so, that might leave me with an interesting choice...


Most (if not all) people who have it pre-ordered at a Gamestop doing a midnight sale received a call yesterday saying to be there today around 11:00 PM. Of course, it doesn't hurt to call and ask.

I'm very tempted to go tonight, but I just don't see the point. A few years ago I could work reasonably well with only 2 or 3 hours of sleep, but now I'm noticing that I'm bad at my job if I don't get at least 4-6 which would leave me little time to play if I picked it up tonight.

[MizzouRah]

Most (if not all) people who have it pre-ordered at a Gamestop doing a midnight sale received a call yesterday saying to be there today around 11:00 PM. Of course, it doesn't hurt to call and ask.

I'm very tempted to go tonight, but I just don't see the point. A few years ago I could work reasonably well with only 2 or 3 hours of sleep, but now I'm noticing that I'm bad at my job if I don't get at least 4-6 which would leave me little time to play if I picked it up tonight.

I'm right with you, I can wait until tomorrow for sure. I'm getting too old to function on less than 6 hours of sleep anymore. ;)

[Kodos]

I have an appointment after work tomorrow night, so I was thinking of saving time tomorrow by getting it (but not playing it) tonight. Sucks that I'm going out of town until Sunday night on Thursday... :(

[TroyF]

I have an appointment after work tomorrow night, so I was thinking of saving time tomorrow by getting it (but not playing it) tonight. Sucks that I'm going out of town until Sunday night on Thursday... :(

I get the game Tuesday. I leave for our convention in Dallas Monday morning. I'll be gone for two full weeks.

Ugh.

[Pumpy Tudors]

In a way, I almost feel bad about wanting to go to GameStop for the midnight release. As I mentioned, my wife goes out of town tomorrow, so tonight is really the last chance she'll get to see me before she goes. I leave for work in the morning before she's out of bed, so she won't even see me in the morning. I mean, she's usually just watching TV in bed by midnight, but I'll be up playing the game for maybe an hour or so, and then I'll go to bed and she might be asleep. The last time she might really get to see me before her trip is when I leave the house to go to GameStop, so I almost feel bad.

Almost. ;)

[spleen1015]

Gaming comes before my wife, too. Don't feel bad.

[rowech]

So this PAT glitch....is this something that could be fixed with an update? It does seem like it might be a big deal.

[KWhit]

It seems like a pretty obvious bug too. You know that EA knew about this when the game went gold.

[rowech]

It seems like a pretty obvious bug too. You know that EA knew about this when the game went gold.

Very much agreed.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Has it even been established that this PAT bug is a frequent thing, or is it still just one guy over on OS who's seeing it "all the time"?

[rowech]

Has it even been established that this PAT bug is a frequent thing, or is it still just one guy over on OS who's seeing it "all the time"?

It does seem to be that it has happened to quite a few people. The frequency is up for debate it looks like.