The FOFC Television Family Draft - Draft Underway

[DaddyTorgo]

That's like picking.. erm.. I don't want to talk about shows that haven't been brought up.. But, sure, Lucy had a kid. But her character was nothing about being a mother.

+1

not a fan of picks that are...violating the spirit of the draft, if not the letter of the draft

[Raiders Army]

you spoke to soon

Gah...I just want to make my pick.

[Mustang]

4.2 - Geoffrey (Fresh Prince of Bel Air)- Butler - This category is going to be dominated by characters from before the 90's, if not far before. Geoffrey is a modern, hip in his own way, butler. A good Butler not only keeps an immaculate house, but gets in a good barb here and there on the family without them even knowing it.


Blatant pandering to the Pumpy vote.

[Tasan]

Lucy is definitely the most famous female TV character of all time.

She is not a TV mom.

TV moms are like pornography, you know it when you see it.

Please please do NOT mention pornography and TV moms together, I picked Roseanne, for heavens sake!

[RendeR]

4.4 Mork from Ork, Robin Williams, Mork and Mindy: Wildcard


Sorry for the delay, I'm at work and someone came in for help.

Just the right fit for the wildcard role. Mork was an alien sent to study humanity. Robin Williams weekly delving into the psychology of how we humans interact on a daily basis was constant laughs.

[Lathum]

I think thats Renders best pick so far

[RendeR]

DOLA and if I'm creating a show I want to see Williams and Lithgow playing off one another, talk about hilarious =)

[RendeR]

DOh, dola busted.

[Maple Leafs]

I think thats Renders best pick so far
Oh snap, dude just called Renders first three picks garbage!

[Lathum]

4.5- Eddie Haskell- Bad Guy

He was THE original sitcom bad boy. Snarky, conniving, and an all around trouble maker.

I realize I am going back aways with this pick, but he was the first person I thought of when I saw this catergory.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

That was my #1 Bad Guy.

[Tasan]

4.4 Mork from Ork, Robin Williams, Mork and Mindy: Wildcard


Sorry for the delay, I'm at work and someone came in for help.

Just the right fit for the wildcard role. Mork was an alien sent to study humanity. Robin Williams weekly delving into the psychology of how we humans interact on a daily basis was constant laughs.

Can you pick him? He was spun off from Happy Days, a Wisconsin show.

[Lathum]

Oh snap, dude just called Renders first three picks garbage!

thats a half empty point of view.

And by half empty I mean the garbage can is half empty ;)

[Mustang]

Please please do NOT mention pornography and TV moms together, I picked Roseanne, for heavens sake!

I probably rubbed one out over Samantha Stevens in my lifetime.

[Mustang]

Can you pick him? He was spun off from Happy Days, a Wisconsin show.

Good catch.

[Maple Leafs]

4.5- Eddie Haskell- Bad Guy

I had him high on my "best friend" list.

[RendeR]

Can you pick him? He was spun off from Happy Days, a Wisconsin show.


Mork and Mindy took place in Boulder Colorado. The character was created due to the one time appearance of Mork in happy days, the time frames were changed and the location is different. Should be ok I think

[Maple Leafs]

4.6 - Brother - Mike Seaver

Show me that smile again...

[Tasan]

I probably rubbed one out over Samantha Stevens in my lifetime.


Well didn't we all, but honestly, a lot of them should not be listed anywhere near that word.

[Maple Leafs]

By the way, I assume that if somebody makes an illegal pick and doesn't realize it we keep going and treat it like a Vikings pick?

[Tasan]

4.6 - Son - Mike Seaver

Show me that smile again...

Dang. It was either him or Al for me last pick. Nice one.

[Dr. Sak]

RendeR's pick is legal IMO since they show Mork and Mindy took place in Colorado.

[Raiders Army]

4.7 Barney Stinson (How I Met Your Mother) - Best Friend

I think it'd be interesting to see Barney and Alex hang out.

[Eaglesfan27]

I would imagine that is because there is no family in Seinfeld. ;) But, it appears others think it was a good pick. I'm not sure how it fits in to a "TV Family" draft, though. I guess it depends on your interpretation. I already argued with Wade about that one. :)

Yep. I'd raise a red flag on this much more than Lucy who actually was a mom on the show. Seinfeld was a great show though.

Cliff was the best pick that I've read so far.

[DeToxRox]

I'm ready to go whenever Larry picks.

[Raiders Army]

I think thats Renders best pick so far

I'd agree.

[chesapeake]

But, sure, Lucy had a kid. But her character was nothing about being a mother.

Then picks like Samantha Stevens are bunk as well, because neither Tabitha nor Adam were significant presences on that show. Both Sam and Lucy were actively wives (certainly an important part of a family unit) on camera but rarely did much mothering.

I think folks are nitpicking here, but YMMV. I would also recommend that anyone skeptical about the Lucy pick as a mom should go read Lucille Ball's wiki page. Her giving birth on the show and becoming a mother was a landmark event in TV history.

[DeToxRox]

Quick question - How are we determining brother?

I was thinking son the entire time, but then I started thinking like a brother of a character.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Samantha Stevens wasn't taken 1.1.

[Tasan]

Quick question - How are we determining brother?

I was thinking son the entire time, but then I started thinking like a brother of a character.

I would think it could be interchangeable Son/Brother, but then there are questions about shows with only one kid, do those kids count.

[wade moore]

I would think it could be interchangeable Son/Brother, but then there are questions about shows with only one kid, do those kids count.

This is very much a "leave it to the voters" situation imo.

[DeToxRox]

So if someone is a main character, they're stillable to be brother?

Well it won't matter, I'm set on my pick. I'll let the voters do what they wish with it.

[Maple Leafs]

I had assumed "brother" had to be a jive-talking black guy.

[DeToxRox]

I had assumed "brother" had to be a jive-talking black guy.

Was Pumpy ever on Martin?

[RendeR]

Then picks like Samantha Stevens are bunk as well, because neither Tabitha nor Adam were significant presences on that show. Both Sam and Lucy were actively wives (certainly an important part of a family unit) on camera but rarely did much mothering.

I think folks are nitpicking here, but YMMV. I would also recommend that anyone skeptical about the Lucy pick as a mom should go read Lucille Ball's wiki page. Her giving birth on the show and becoming a mother was a landmark event in TV history.


I beg to differ here, Tabitha was a huge part of bewitched. Her popularity as a character in the previous show was what got the ball rolling for the failed spinoff with her as an adult. Samantha Stevens is a very solid pick as a mother figure IMO.

The rap on Lucille ball probably stems more from the fact that at the height of her popularity she wasn't playing the "motherly" role she was just doing slapstick against the backdrop of her hubbies radio show. I think Lucy is a fine pick though.

A lot of this is going to come down to the voters and their PoV. I do hope that when voting is done that it is done publicly with a reasoning for how/why votes were given. The players deserve to see why or why not their picks got support.

[RendeR]

Just as a favor an we post our picks with the character and the show its from please? I'm old, my memory ain't what it used to be ;)

[Dr. Sak]

Are you a pothead Focker?

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA.

[Dr. Sak]

I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA.

It was an awes-ful pick...i mean awf-some...

[Eaglesfan27]

Then picks like Samantha Stevens are bunk as well, because neither Tabitha nor Adam were significant presences on that show. Both Sam and Lucy were actively wives (certainly an important part of a family unit) on camera but rarely did much mothering.

I think folks are nitpicking here, but YMMV. I would also recommend that anyone skeptical about the Lucy pick as a mom should go read Lucille Ball's wiki page. Her giving birth on the show and becoming a mother was a landmark event in TV history.

Well said.

Now that I'm caught up, I think Ed Norton was the best value pick in the draft.

[larrymcg421]

4.8 Elyse Keaton, Mom - Family Ties

[MikeVic]

I thought I knew shows, but with this draft, I know now that I don't.

[DeToxRox]

Another pick for Team DeTox, and we go back to the 80's to find a young man who was a great brother, just trying to make it in this crazy world of ours:

4.9 Kevin Arnold, Brother, The Wonder Years

[lordscarlet]

Something to remember with all the bickering (which is often the best part of the draft): the voters largely don't read this thread. They see the rules, they see the picks, and they see any explanations that are posted in the voting thread. The "die hard" draft watchers are a small portion of the final tally.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

DeTox has four nice picks.

[Tasan]

Not bad at all.

[RendeR]

Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take.

[lordscarlet]

Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take.

Except that Dr. Sak already said that it was not limited to half hour sitcoms. We've already established that it is not a violation of the rules, and people trying to convince voters otherwise are being dishonest.

[Raiders Army]

I think Barney is a great high-risk high-reward pick, RA.

Yeah. I thought we were skewing too much towards the old school sitcoms. Throwing a current one out there.

[DeToxRox]

Not a fan of the Kevin Arnold pick due to the earlier disagreements about hour long/half hour long/ sitcom/non sitcom, but thats just my take.

Was only a half hour show, and won an emmy for best comedy.

[hoopsguy]

I've liked the last few picks. Agree that DeToxRox is putting together a nice squad.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

The Wonder Years was funnier than Mork and Mindy, at least.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've liked the last few picks. Agree that DeToxRox is putting together a nice squad.


I've also liked the last few picks and think that DTR is putting together a strong team at this point.

[cartman]

My pick coming up...

[Tasan]

Was only a half hour show, and won an emmy for best comedy.

I think you can make a good case for it on sitcom, just not a standard, traditional one.

[DeToxRox]

I vote we just bannish Karl from the draft (or life if so desired) because I am ready to make another splash.

[cartman]

4.10 - Malcom (in the Middle) - Brother

One of the only sitcoms I can think of with the focus on the brother. Also, I don't think they ever said the family's last name on the show, that's why I left it out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/malcolm/gallery/images/340/malcolm3.jpg

[chesapeake]

Something to remember with all the bickering (which is often the best part of the draft): the voters largely don't read this thread. They see the rules, they see the picks, and they see any explanations that are posted in the voting thread. The "die hard" draft watchers are a small portion of the final tally.

Hmm...I guess I am one of the few voters that enjoys following along. A point that RendeR may want to keep in mind next time he criticizes one of my posts with silly things like the facts. :)

BTW, RendeR, I have no memory whatsoever of Tabitha's role on the show other than as a kid with very few lines that wiggled her nose with her finger. And I even know which Dick is which. But I concede that you may well be right about Tabitha having a bigger role than I remember.

[Tasan]

4.10 - Malcom (in the Middle) - Brother

One of the only sitcoms I can think of with the focus on the brother. Also, I don't think they ever said the family's last name on the show, that's why I left it out.

EXCELLENT pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Except that Dr. Sak already said that it was not limited to half hour sitcoms.
Wait, what? I thought every pick had to be from a half-hour sitcom?

[lordscarlet]

Wait, what? I thought every pick had to be from a half-hour sitcom?

I hate you. :)

[RendeR]

cmon people lets roll here we're getting a lot done today =)

[RendeR]

Hmm...I guess I am one of the few voters that enjoys following along. A point that RendeR may want to keep in mind next time he criticizes one of my posts with silly things like the facts. :)

BTW, RendeR, I have no memory whatsoever of Tabitha's role on the show other than as a kid with very few lines that wiggled her nose with her finger. And I even know which Dick is which. But I concede that you may well be right about Tabitha having a bigger role than I remember.


Its more that she was the focal point for many of the episodes, wetrher it was her emerging abilities causing mayhem or the mother in law creating mischeif based around her. its all good.

[Lathum]

are we back to Karl?

[DeToxRox]

are we back to Karl?

Danny then Karl.

[Lathum]

I hear the sound of brakes schreeching

[cartman]

I PM'd Danny after my last pick

[Karlifornia]

2.12 Paul Pfeiffer- Best Friend

3.1 Rosie from the Jetsons-maid

[cartman]

w00t! Now if Danny shows back up soon, we can get several picks fired off.

[Karlifornia]

I hear the sound of brakes schreeching

Haha suck my dick I'm here now.

[Tasan]

2.12 Paul Pfeiffer- Best Friend3.1 Rosie from the Jetsons-maid

Nice maid pickup there. I had forgotten all about her/it.

[wade moore]

Pfeiffer was lined up to be my next pick - I like that one a ton.

[Logan]

I've also liked the last few picks and think that DTR is putting together a strong team at this point.

Yeah, shocking.

[wade moore]

What I think DTR has done is cleverly built towards a "theme".. I think some of us may regret not doing something similar.

[Danny]

I'm here, will be looking over what happened when I was at work and will then pick.

[Danny]

4.11 Cosmo Kramer - Wildcard (neighbor)

[RendeR]

What I think DTR has done is cleverly built towards a "theme".. I think some of us may regret not doing something similar.


the actors with dark hair theme? I'm probably just not getting it.

[RendeR]

NEXT!

[DeToxRox]

So wait .. is it Cartmans pick?

[Danny]

No, Karlifornia

[cartman]

No, Karl has the wrap-around picks, then Danny again, then me. Then you.

[Karlifornia]

ok..give me a minute or two

[DeToxRox]

Every post he makes gives me more reason to hate Karl.

[Karlifornia]

4.12 Arnold Jackson-Brother

Whatchu' talkin 'bout, voters?

5.1 Danny Tanner-Dad

Well, you say Lucy isn't enough of a "mom" figure for you? Well how about the daddiest of daddies, Danny Tanner. He was constantly giving life lessons to all three of his daughters. I can still here him saying " Wait, DEEJ!" over sad piano music. Don't be sad, though, voters, because the hopeful string music will be there to turn things around!

[Danny]

5.2 Mister Ed - Pet

[Lathum]

Haha suck my dick I'm here now.

It's cool man, you only showed up 9 hours and 39 minutes after the person before you picked. No biggie.

[RendeR]

5.2 Mister Ed - Pet


You BASTARD!

[Karlifornia]

It's cool man, you only showed up 9 hours and 39 minutes after the person before you picked. No biggie.

I hope..someday...all can be forgiven. I know these things take time. Besides, I wanted to wait until after the next Giants super bowl win to make my pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Well, you say Lucy isn't enough of a "mom" figure for you? Well how about the daddiest of daddies, Danny Tanner.
I probably would have gone with somebody straight, but your way is fine too.

[DeToxRox]

No need to PM Cartman, I'm on deck

[cartman]

5.3 Newman from Seinfeld - Bad Guy

"Hello, Jerry."
No more chilling words have ever been spoken during a sitcom. Another character with an unknown last name, Newman is a postal worker who is always on the edge of breakdown, and is a cunning mastermind. The others on my family team will do well to keep a close eye on him.

http://www.pjvoice.com/v23/photos/newman1.jpg

[DeToxRox]

5.3 Newman from Seinfeld - Bad Guy

"Hello, Jerry." No more chilling words have ever been spoken during a sitcom. Another character with an unknown last name, Newman is a postal worker who is always on the edge of breakdown, and is a cunning mastermind. The others on my family team will do well to keep a close eye on him.

http://www.pjvoice.com/v23/photos/newman1.jpg

Sensational pick.

[DeToxRox]

Team DeTox has decided to throw a curveball, and get a little "animated" with the original bad guy of TV..

5.4 Wylie Coyote - Bad Guy

[Karlifornia]

5.3 Newman from Seinfeld - Bad Guy

"Hello, Jerry."
No more chilling words have ever been spoken during a sitcom. Another character with an unknown last name, Newman is a postal worker who is always on the edge of breakdown, and is a cunning mastermind. The others on my family team will do well to keep a close eye on him.

http://www.pjvoice.com/v23/photos/newman1.jpg

I knew I should have taken him instead of Danny Tanner...damn you, cartman. Nice pick.

[cartman]

Can we kindly get a first post update?

[MrDNA]

Wow - most of the draft what would've been my A+ picks stay on the board and then Mr. Ed AND Newman go bam, bam. Mr. Ed is THE best pet pick, IMHO. Great picks here, guys.

And really, Danny friggin' Tanner. No one has picked ******** **** and you're picking DANNY FRIGGIN' TANNER.

Sorry, I just had some coffee.

[Alan T]

Team DeTox has decided to throw a curveball, and get a little "animated" with the original bad guy of TV..

5.4 Wylie Coyote - Bad Guy

I think this was the first Detox pick that I did not like. Up until now I had him in the lead or near the lead on my scoresheet (which obviously will be re-evaluated post-draft as well)

[RendeR]

Who are we waiting on at 5.5? I am heading home in just a couple minutes and may not be back until after midnight. Battlestar Galactica starts tonight and I plan to watch it through twice.

[Raiders Army]

It's probably the same person who picked at 1.5 and 3.5.

[cartman]

larrymcg is up

[RendeR]

It's probably the same person who picked at 1.5 and 3.5.


Thanks for the update captain smartass.

[RendeR]

alright, I'm out for now. back on later tonight.

[hoopsguy]

5.3 Newman from Seinfeld - Bad Guy

"Hello, Jerry."
No more chilling words have ever been spoken during a sitcom. Another character with an unknown last name, Newman is a postal worker who is always on the edge of breakdown, and is a cunning mastermind. The others on my family team will do well to keep a close eye on him.

http://www.pjvoice.com/v23/photos/newman1.jpg

Good pick, I think this was the best pick in what was the toughest category for me to fill (from the sidelines).

[larrymcg421]

I'm here. Picking now.

[Raiders Army]

Thanks for the update captain smartass.

No problem Private Lazybones-who-couldn't-look-at-the-first-post-in-the-thread. :)

Next time, address me as Major Smartass. I just got promoted.

[larrymcg421]

5.5 Theodore "Beaver" Cleaver, Leave it to Beaver - Brother

[Raiders Army]

5.6 ALF aka Gordon Schumway (ALF) - Wildcard

I was tempted to use him as a pet, but decided the votes would be against me here, much like the Lucy Ball discussion. I probably could've picked him next round, but...

[RendeR]

No problem Private Lazybones-who-couldn't-look-at-the-first-post-in-the-thread. :)

Next time, address me as Major Smartass. I just got promoted.

Careful "major" I got eagles on my collar, you might be doing time as a captain again if yer not careful ;)

[Raiders Army]

Careful "major" I got eagles on my collar, you might be doing time as a captain again if yer not careful ;)

Working for the Post Office doesn't count.

[cartman]

Working for the Post Office doesn't count.

You just made Newman's shit list.

[Maple Leafs]

5.7 - Wildcard - Balki Bartokomous

Does my family need a wacky cousin? Don't be ridiculous!

[Lathum]

Alf was my sleeper pet pick

[MrDNA]

5.7 - Wildcard - Balki Bartokomous

Does my family need a wacky cousin? Don't be ridiculous!

Holy CRAP do I like this pick. ALF is also nice, but Balki? GENIUS.

[Dr. Sak]

First post updated

[cartman]

First post updated

You are a scholar and/or a gentleman

[Karlifornia]

I was going for Balki as a best friend.

[wade moore]

I was going for Balki as a best friend.

Yup. Good chance he was going with my next pick.

[Tasan]

Where is Mr. Antsy Pants Lathum? Shouldn't he be griping that someone hasn't made a pick about now?

[Lathum]

Where is Mr. Antsy Pants Lathum? Shouldn't he be griping that someone hasn't made a pick about now?

or I could just tell you to go fuck yourself.

The expectation of these drafts is that people will be considerate enough to make their picks on time or send in a list between 9 AM and 9 PM.

If you can't meet that expectation then don't sign up, it ruins the fun for everyone else.

I don't think I am alone in this sentiment.

[Tasan]

Wow, someone can't take a little ribbing. Back off there fella, it was a friggin joke.

[Lathum]

Wow, someone can't take a little ribbing. Back off there fella, it was a friggin joke.

wasn't funny, you came off sounding bitter, and I'm not the only one who thought so.

If it was a joke then fine, I apologize if I over reacted.

[Tasan]

wasn't funny, you came off sounding bitter, and I'm not the only one who thought so.

If it was a joke then fine, I apologize if I over reacted.

Oh man, I gotta remember where I'm stepping around here. I post in another section on FOFC constantly, where they totally get that I wouldn't be pissy about anything and would just be poking a little fun. No hard feelings man, and I am sorry about holding this little shindig up yesterday.

[Lathum]

5.8- Fran Fine ( Drescher)- The nanny- Nanny

Her voice is annoying as hell but millions of jewish women cant be wrong. can they?

[Lathum]

dola- I spaced on the fact it was my pick, make Tasan's comments more understandable.

I was doing other stuff ( my wife ) and didn't think about it. My bad ig anyone was here and ready.

[Mustang]

I was doing other stuff ( my wife ) and didn't think about it.

Dude, if you are doing your wife, I really really hope you aren't thinking of the draft. :)

[Lathum]

Dude, if you are doing your wife, I really really hope you aren't thinking of the draft. :)

hence the delay.

I last longer then usual if I have a few drinks in me

[hoopsguy]

Dude, if you are doing your wife, I really really hope you aren't thinking of the draft. :)

And then coming up with "The Nanny" as the next selection :eek:

[Tasan]

Well I've got a list to the good Dr. right now, so if I'm not here I'll have picks in the morning. I don't think RendeR is going to be around any more tonight from the sound of his last post.

[RendeR]

5.9 Dan Fielding , Night Court, bad guy This role launched John larroquete's career as his self absorbed prosecutor became the defacto funny man of the show.

[Tasan]

Well I can pick now, I guess.

5.10 Steve Urkel-Family Matters - Wildcard

Love him, hate him, he single handedly kept a mediocre sitcom afloat, more than that, gave it success. He's not a family member, not a best friend, but hands down the star of the show. Mr Wildcard.

[MikeVic]

Some good picks since I last checked. That Danny Tanner pick puts Karl ahead for me. ;) There's one dad I can think of that I like as much as him. Come on people!

[Crim]

I hope..someday...all can be forgiven. I know these things take time. Besides, I wanted to wait until after the next Giants super bowl win to make my pick.


Oh hell, shit just got serious.

[wade moore]

5.9 Dan Fielding , Night Court, bad guy This role launched John larroquete's career as his self absorbed prosecutor became the defacto funny man of the show.

I'd just like to call a bit of shennigans on the fact that RendeR picked him in the 1st round, some people called him out, so he retracted and picked someone else, and he gets him in the 5th? That's quite a bit of BS.

Anyway, I know this is not serious enough a thing that we should do anything about it, but that's pretty lame in my opinion.

[wade moore]

5.11 Fred G. Sanford - Sanford and Son - Dad - Oh, this is the big one!

[Raiders Army]

I'd just like to call a bit of shennigans on the fact that RendeR picked him in the 1st round, some people called him out, so he retracted and picked someone else, and he gets him in the 5th? That's quite a bit of BS.

Anyway, I know this is not serious enough a thing that we should do anything about it, but that's pretty lame in my opinion.
Ah. So that's what happened. I wasn't there so I was wondering whom he picked. Why would someone call him out on the pick? I don't see anything wrong with it.
5.11 Fred G. Sanford - Sanford and Son - Dad - Oh, this is the big one!
Good pick! I am surprised he was still on the board near the end of round 5.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Great value there wade. Dad is a deep category.

[wade moore]

Ah. So that's what happened. I wasn't there so I was wondering whom he picked. Why would someone call him out on the pick? I don't see anything wrong with it.

Good pick! I am surprised he was still on the board near the end of round 5.

Because it wasn't from a "family" show. So he says "yeah, I'm switching cause I want to do only family shows". Spoils that pick, then takes him later. Poor form.

Great value there wade. Dad is a deep category.Yup. Once Cliff and Archie were gone I saw no use in picking dad in the first few. But for my strategy I really wanted Fred, so this seemed like the right spot.

[larrymcg421]

I'll be out most of the day, but I sent my list to the Doc. If it runs out, I'll be picking later tonight.

[Raiders Army]

Ah. I understand now. I'll let him defend himself, but wasn't this during the time that we were confused about what shows we could pick from? I don't recall family shows being part of the discussion though.

[Mustang]

5.12 - Basil Fawlty (Wildcard), Fawlty Towers. I'll probably get a who or what the f, but just trust me on this one.

6.1 - Eddie (Pet), Frasier. I was somewhat struggling with the pet category. I didn't want a pet that was just visible and never had any interaction with the rest of the family and was just seen. Eddie fits that for me.

[larrymcg421]

A few of us made comments that we thought this was just from family shows. I realize that I was probably wrong in reading it that way. What bugs me is he shouldn't have been able to change his pick.

I mean, if I was right, and this was really meant for only family shows, then I can understand him being able to change his pick. But if I was wrong, as I concede is likely, then he shouldn't have been able to change his pick in the first place, especially if he planned on going back and making that pick anyways.

[wade moore]

A few of us made comments that we thought this was just from family shows. I realize that I was probably wrong in reading it that way. What bugs me is he shouldn't have been able to change his pick.

I mean, if I was right, and this was really meant for only family shows, then I can understand him being able to change his pick. But if I was wrong, as I concede is likely, then he shouldn't have been able to change his pick in the first place, especially if he planned on going back and making that pick anyways.

Yup. The switch made me uneasy, but for the good of fun I let it slide. But for him to then turn around and get the guy he originally picked in the first round in the 4th?

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

If it's any consolation I'm sure his first round pick would still have been available. :D

[Mustang]

What bugs me is he shouldn't have been able to change his pick.

I would agree, but no one called shenanigans at the time and told him to keep it. Plus, Fielding is out there for 4 rounds so, others could have taken him.

Ah well.

[Maple Leafs]

I would agree, but no one called shenanigans at the time and told him to keep it. Plus, Fielding is out there for 4 rounds so, others could have taken him.

Ah well.
He misunderstood something, and changed his pick right away. Once he did that, there's no reason the guy couldn't be picked again.

I guess I'm missing the problem here.

[wade moore]

6.2 - Florida Evans - Good Times - Mom - Poor Fred always wanted to be with Elizabeth. Now he doesn't need Elizabeth because he has his girl Esther. Esther and Fred make a wonderful, nurturing couple - don't they?


Edit: Fixed - had the actress (Esther Rolle) instead of the character (Florida Evans).

[wade moore]

He misunderstood something, and changed his pick right away. Once he did that, there's no reason the guy couldn't be picked again.

I guess I'm missing the problem here.

Again, I know we're not going to "do" anything about it - but he "tainted" the pick in my view. Then snags him rounds later.

*shrug*

Maybe I'm overreacting, but it's pretty poor form imo.

[Raiders Army]

6.2 - Esther Rolle - Good Times - Mom - Poor Fred always wanted to be with Elizabeth. Now he doesn't need Elizabeth because he has his girl Esther. Esther and Fred make a wonderful, nurturing couple - don't they?

Absolutely devastating combo. I think the whole is the greater of the pieces and you've made some great choices.

[wade moore]

Absolutely devastating combo. I think the whole is the greater of the pieces and you've made some great choices.

I'm hoping so. There's a pick I'm wishing I had back, but I'm going to make it work.

[Maple Leafs]

5.12 - Basil Fawlty (Wildcard), Fawlty Towers. I'll probably get a who or what the f, but just trust me on this one.

Very good pick.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I think this draft is going to be won in the later rounds. There are some very strong teams so far, wade's included.

[larrymcg421]

He misunderstood something, and changed his pick right away. Once he did that, there's no reason the guy couldn't be picked again.

I guess I'm missing the problem here.

Right, but my point is that I have no problem with someone being able to change their pick if they misunderstood the draft. But that means Fielding isn't an eligible pick for him. I wasn't going to pick Fielding anyways, so I don't really care that much. I'm probably more disappointed he didn't stick with the family only theme.

[Crim]

I'm reading along with interest.

Crim's front runners so far:
1t Danny
1t larry
3 Maple

There's a pick still out there that would be huge, if someone will just make it. She'd be my third round pick easy, and I can't believe she's on the board...

[Danny]

I'd just like to call a bit of shennigans on the fact that RendeR picked him in the 1st round, some people called him out, so he retracted and picked someone else, and he gets him in the 5th? That's quite a bit of BS.

Anyway, I know this is not serious enough a thing that we should do anything about it, but that's pretty lame in my opinion.

I see no problem with his pick in this regard. I don't think it's a real strong one, but the voters will sort that out.

[Dr. Sak]

From his list

Tasan Picks 6.3 Dino-Flintstones - Pet

[DeToxRox]

I'm here Sak, so disregard my list.

[RendeR]

Guess I'm up now then.....

[MikeVic]

Ok, so was it established if people should be taking the "Family" part of the draft seriously, or was it left up to the voters?

[cartman]

Ok, so was it established if people should be taking the "Family" part of the draft seriously, or was it left up to the voters?

It was established that this was a sitcom draft, and the categories that were selected included family members.

[Danny]

Just leave it up to the voters I think.

[Danny]

Ok, so was it established if people should be taking the "Family" part of the draft seriously, or was it left up to the voters?

I'm taking it seriously, though I think the wild card spot has flexibility and I was thrilled to have Kramer as my families neighbor

[RendeR]

6.4 Alan Harper, 2 and a half Men, Jon Cryer: Brother

This was a tough choice, My take on tihngs was more along the lines of "brother OF the lead character" so i went with Alan here instead of Charlie.

[hoopsguy]

5.11 Fred G. Sanford - Sanford and Son - Dad - Oh, this is the big one!

Great pick, particularly at this stage.

[RendeR]

Ok, so was it established if people should be taking the "Family" part of the draft seriously, or was it left up to the voters?


After re-reading everything my opinion has become "You're drafting your own sitcom from characters in sitcoms. Your sitcom is a family based idea with the following roles to fill:


but again thats just my take. the voters will decide later.

[RendeR]

Great pick, particularly at this stage.


Yeah I thought of him yesterday and went "DOH!!!" he is a great pick especially this far down.

[wade moore]

It was established that this was a sitcom draft, and the categories that were selected included family members.

It was established that this was a TV Family draft, and the categories that were selected included family members.

[wade moore]

No, it wasn't. That's how you've interpreted it.
The thread title was specifically changed because of this change.

[wade moore]

I mean, it's not a HUGE deal to my team as outside of Lassie I expect for my entire family to be from what are clearly sitcoms.

[cartman]

Now I see that it was changed. I thought the discussion around this ended back on pages 6,7 and 8, but I guess not.

[wade moore]

FWIW..

My personal view at this point (not necessarily Dr. Sak's goal) is I'm making the best Sitcom Family from TV Show Characters. If I think someone from a non-sitcom works for my sitcom family, so be it.

[Lathum]

6,5- Sam Malone- Cheers- Wildcars

the ultimate ladies man

[Danny]

6.4 Alan Harper, 2 and a half Men, Jon Cryer: Brother

This was a tough choice, My take on tihngs was more along the lines of "brother OF the lead character" so i went with Alan here instead of Charlie.

I interpreted the brother category more along the lines of the son in the family as opposed to this. Having different interpretations is part of the game though :)

[RendeR]

FWIW..

My personal view at this point (not necessarily Dr. Sak's goal) is I'm making the best Sitcom Family from TV Show Characters. If I think someone from a non-sitcom works for my sitcom family, so be it.


This is what I've come to do as well.

[RendeR]

I interpreted the brother category more along the lines of the son in the family as opposed to this. Having different interpretations is part of the game though :)


yeha I thought along that line too, but that appears to be where everyone was going with that pick which is why I wanted to be a little different while still fitting the position. Its all good =)

[MrDNA]

5.8- Fran Fine ( Drescher)- The nanny- Nanny

Her voice is annoying as hell but millions of jewish women cant be wrong. can they?

FINALLY! I can't believe that she lasted this long. I mean, the show was named after her, so that's gotta count for something.

5.9 Dan Fielding , Night Court, bad guy This role launched John larroquete's career as his self absorbed prosecutor became the defacto funny man of the show.

Not sure about the controversy over this, all I know is it's a weak pick. Tough category, but not someone I would've chosen to fill it.

Well I can pick now, I guess.

5.10 Steve Urkel-Family Matters - Wildcard

Love him, hate him, he single handedly kept a mediocre sitcom afloat, more than that, gave it success. He's not a family member, not a best friend, but hands down the star of the show. Mr Wildcard.

!!! He wasn't even on my radar, but I think this is as good a wildcard as Balki. I love to see the strategy here and I'm curious if anyone will pick who I had as my wildcard.

5.12 - Basil Fawlty (Wildcard), Fawlty Towers. I'll probably get a who or what the f, but just trust me on this one.

I was wondering if anyone would pick old Basil. Great character, great show, but I think that "who or what the f" factor might hurt you with the voters.

My number 3 dad is still out there, as is his entire show. Huh.

[Maple Leafs]

Because Homer and Tony need somebody to drink with, and Mike needs somebody to teach him how to woo the ladies...

6.6 - Best Friend - Larry Dallas

[Crim]

My number 3 dad is still out there, as is his entire show. Huh.

I have a hunch for some reason that you and I are thinking of the same show, and for me it's not the dad who's the strongest pick on there. Although he's a real steal at this point too.

[RendeR]

Right, but my point is that I have no problem with someone being able to change their pick if they misunderstood the draft. But that means Fielding isn't an eligible pick for him. I wasn't going to pick Fielding anyways, so I don't really care that much. I'm probably more disappointed he didn't stick with the family only theme.


WTF do you and Wade want me to do? I screwed that pick, realized I screwed it up and changed it to FIT THE RULES AT THE TIME. Then everyone whines and bitches that the rules aren't clear enough or open enough to let them do whatever the fuck they want and the rules get CHANGED to allow the pick I initially made.

So you tell me, WTF is wrong with picking him now after ALL of you have had more than enough chance to take him IF you actually wanted him?

HRM?

Whatever your fucking problems are with me or my picks I think perhaps you ought to shove them up your ass with your heads and leave me the fuck alone for a while. get over yourselves. its a fucking fantasy draft.

[Buccaneer]

Note to self: Don't participate with RendeR in future drafts.

[wade moore]

Just a note: no rules have changed since the draft started.

[Radii]

So you tell me, WTF is wrong with picking him now after ALL of you have had more than enough chance to take him IF you actually wanted him?


While the rest of the post is classic RendeR cringeworthy massive overreaction, I pretty much agree with this sentiment.

[wade moore]

While the rest of the post is classic RendeR cringeworthy massive overreaction, I pretty much agree with this sentiment.
*shurg*

I said I don't think we should do anythign about it, but like I said at that point hte pick is "tainted".

In all honesty I don't think it's a good pick so it's really not that big of a deal...

[wade moore]

Anyway - sorry for unnecessary drama. I woke up, saw the pick of someone he backed out on after posting previously and it rubbed me the wrong way. If others dont' care, then it's nto that important to me.

[cartman]

Just a note: no rules have changed since the draft started.

Wrong. The change from sitcoms to all TV shows happened after the draft got underway. That is why most of us are sticking to only picking characters from sitcoms, since that was the criteria when we started.

I was told that sitcoms are 30 minutes...and that Dramas are 60 minutes. As I said above I didn't want to have an argument if a show is sometimes 60 minutes. So it is my fault, I apologize.
I agree, I thought that was exactly what were doing, a sitcom draft. I didn't care about run time etc...

I became confused just recently when I saw that the draft was changed away from a sitcom draft to a television draft.

[wade moore]

Wrong. The change from sitcoms to all TV shows happened after the draft got underway. That is why most of us are sticking to only picking characters from sitcoms, since that was the criteria when we started.

No, you are wrong.

It happened after the thread was started, but before 1.1 was made. The thread title changed before a single pick was made, in fact I believe before we had 12 participants named.

[wade moore]

Yessir...i'll update the first post with the picks. I changed the thread title.

This was post #68.

Pick 1.1 was post #77.

[cartman]

And the kicker is, the changes that were made were mainly due to your misunderstanding of the original ground rules, Wade.

[DeToxRox]

I wanna get it on this action --

Logan fucking sucks. Asshole.

[Raiders Army]

And the kicker is, the changes that were made were mainly due to your misunderstanding of the original ground rules, Wade.

I gotta agree with this one.

[Raiders Army]

WTF do you and Wade want me to do? I screwed that pick, realized I screwed it up and changed it to FIT THE RULES AT THE TIME. Then everyone whines and bitches that the rules aren't clear enough or open enough to let them do whatever the fuck they want and the rules get CHANGED to allow the pick I initially made.

So you tell me, WTF is wrong with picking him now after ALL of you have had more than enough chance to take him IF you actually wanted him?

HRM?

Whatever your fucking problems are with me or my picks I think perhaps you ought to shove them up your ass with your heads and leave me the fuck alone for a while. get over yourselves. its a fucking fantasy draft.

A little over the top, but that's par for course.

[wade moore]

And the kicker is, the changes that were made were mainly due to your misunderstanding of the original ground rules, Wade.

I understood the ground rules just fine. I wanted it to be sitcoms only. People were throwing around things that were not sitcoms, so I asked for clarification on what we were doing.

For the record, I wasn't the only one. I'm not sure why I was singled out. I let it be and Maple Leafs at least also wanted clarification. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. To remove confusion, Dr. Sak broadened the wording of the draft. I was fine with that, and moved on. Then at some point people wanted to redefine back to the original intention, after that restriction was removed.

[RendeR]

*shurg*

I said I don't think we should do anythign about it, but like I said at that point hte pick is "tainted".

In all honesty I don't think it's a good pick so it's really not that big of a deal...

If this is true then perhaps you just ought to shut the fuck up about it instead of continuing to stick your personal bitchiness into an open wound. You don't want the pick, everyone else had 5 rounds to take him so obviously they didn't want him, shut the fuck UP already.

[DeToxRox]

Is it Raiders pick?

[wade moore]

If this is true then perhaps you just ought to shut the fuck up about it instead of continuing to stick your personal bitchiness into an open wound. You don't want the pick, everyone else had 5 rounds to take him so obviously they didn't want him, shut the fuck UP already.

If someone asks me a question or makes a claim that is not true (like that the rules changed after you made the initial swap), I'm going to answer and/or correct.

[RendeR]

And Bucc, if you actually think *I* am the real issue here perhaps you ought to just put me on ignore and be done with it. otherwise you can join wade in the shut-the-fuck-up-o-family.

[wade moore]

RendeR - fwiw I think the problem for some with you is the overreaction, not the point you are trying make. It seems that most disagree with me, but everyone disagrees with your level of venom.

[RendeR]

If someone asks me a question or makes a claim that is not true (like that the rules changed after you made the initial swap), I'm going to answer and/or correct.

nice job responding to something other than what I was talking about. You have every right to respond to cartman, I was answering your continue sniping at me for no good reason. You beat a dead fucking horse for all its worth and then wonder why people get annoyed about it? You've been riding me since that initial pick, when by your own statement you don;t care, so I can only assume that you have a stick up your ass about me and just want to be an asshole. Let IT Go.

[RendeR]

RendeR - fwiw I think the problem for some with you is the overreaction, not the point you are trying make. It seems that most disagree with me, but everyone disagrees with your level of venom.

I've been posting here for almost 9 years, if people haven't figured out what I'm going to react to and how I will react by now thats not my problem.

[Tasan]

:popcorn:

[cartman]

My case:

Hour long shows are dramas, not sitcoms imo. I just think that in the TV World there is a very clear distinction between the two.

I dont agree. I should've went with my gut and left the word Sitcom out of the title...and just left it as TV Family Draft. But I"m willing to go with the majority here...if they want it to be limited to 30 minute shows then so be it.

I wouldn't be argueing if you had said TV Family Draft, but that's an ENTIRELY different game than the TV Sitcom Family Draft. ENTIRELY different.

There is a HUGE difference between a 1-hour family related drama and a 1/2 hour family-related sitcom.

How about we agree to disagree?

The definition completely changes the way this game is played, so I'm not sure that I like that option.

I am trying to be the better one here and not start a fight with you like the last time we were in a draft together. Sometimes you nitpick drafts and read into things so seriously that it takes the fun out of it. I understand the point about no reality shows but by taking someone from a "TV Family" that was on an hour long show that bad? Again, it is up to the voters to decide.

As I said a few posts up, I am willing to let it up to you guys. I WANT it to include hour long shows, but if people joined thinking it was only the 30 minute ones, I will just go with that.

Don't remember a previous fight. *shurg*

I'll just shutup and hope the voters understand what a sitcom is.

[DeToxRox]

But seriously .. isn't it Raiders pick?

[Raiders Army]

Is it Raiders pick?

Yes. 5 minutes.

[Logan]

I wanna get it on this action --

Logan fucking sucks. Asshole.

How's it gonna feel when both my Big XII championship rings are being impressioned into your forehead?

[wade moore]

nice job responding to something other than what I was talking about. You have every right to respond to cartman, I was answering your continue sniping at me for no good reason. You beat a dead fucking horse for all its worth and then wonder why people get annoyed about it? You've been riding me since that initial pick, when by your own statement you don;t care, so I can only assume that you have a stick up your ass about me and just want to be an asshole. Let IT Go.

I challenge you to

A) Find where I "rode you" on the initial pick
B) Find where I "rode you" throughout this draft. I questioned you tying Chicago to Milwaukee. And I questioned this. The end.

[wade moore]

cartman - way to selectively quote. I was happy to leave it at that, and we were done. That last post was the end until ML (the originator of these things btw) posted this:

I'd like the "sitcom" vs "family" thing clarified, if only because I can see people taking Tony Soprano or JR Ewing and starting all sorts of arguments.

Beyond that, I'd be fine with letting the voters decide what a sitcom is. Let's face it, every single person in the draft is secretly planning to work The Simpsons in as a "sneaky" pick, so we might as well have that argument now.

After this is when Dr. Sak decided to change the title.

Edit to add:

I don't want to knock Sak because setting these things up are a pain in the ass. But these "fights" in drafts happen when the rules are not clearly defined/clarified before things get started - therefore I asked for some further definition before we got on a roll, and you can see that ML agreed.

[cartman]

I didn't selectively quote. That was from a direct conversation stream, in order of posting, on page 1.

[Raiders Army]

6.7 Joy Turner (My Name is Earl) - Bad Girl

Cheats on her husband and is a hoot.

[wade moore]

I didn't selectively quote. That was from a direct conversation stream, in order of posting, on page 1.
Ok, I used the wrong word. You didn't show the full story. Dr. Sak and I were done with the conversation at that point and I was happy to let it be, but then another participant also wanted it to be more clearly explained.

[cartman]

Dang it, RA. She was gonna be my pick for mom.

[RendeR]

Wade, seriously, just shut up about it already.The picks done and everyone else seems fine with it, let it drop.

[wade moore]

Wade, seriously, just shut up about it already.The picks done and everyone else seems fine with it, let it drop.

You do realize this discussion has nothing to do with you at this point, and hasn't for awhile, right?

[RendeR]

Its the same discussion, you've just dropped a losing battle with me and moved on to defending yourself against cartman. Let it go dude.

[Raiders Army]

I've been posting here for almost 9 years, if people haven't figured out what I'm going to react to and how I will react by now thats not my problem.

FWIW, this isn't an excuse it's a cop-out. Just because we all know how HA is, doesn't excuse him.

[wade moore]

Its the same discussion, you've just dropped a losing battle with me and moved on to defending yourself against cartman. Let it go dude.

I didn't "lose" a battle with you. you showed that others dont' think the pick is a big deal. I showed that the rules changed before you made your first pick, despite what you said.

And defending is right. If someone makes false claims about me, I'm going to defend myself - I'm not going to just "let it go".

[Raiders Army]

Dang it, RA. She was gonna be my pick for mom.

Yeah...I wish in retrospect I would've picked Alf for Pet. I think I'm gonna regret picking her for Bad Girl instead of Mom too.

[Danny]

FWIW, this isn't an excuse it's a cop-out. Just because we all know how HA is, doesn't excuse him.

I agree. There is no need for that kind of reaction, whether or not someone is known for it.

[wade moore]

Yeah...I wish in retrospect I would've picked Alf for Pet. I think I'm gonna regret picking her for Bad Girl instead of Mom too.
I was surprised to see Alf under wildcard rather than pet. Wildcard is just such an open category and Pet is such a limited one.

[RendeR]

Ok how about this, Stop prolonging an argument for no other reason than your own ability to feel "special". Its done. Stop fighting a fight thats been over for a page already. To everyone else I offer an apology for blowing up in thread, it was distracting and I'm sorry for that. I have a temper, most everyone knows that already, more do so now I think. Can we carry on now?

[RendeR]

FWIW, this isn't an excuse it's a cop-out. Just because we all know how HA is, doesn't excuse him.

Not worth much honestly, knowing how people act and deliberatly provoking them by sustainined commentary is just as stupid. Its a two edged sword, if you want to not stop and think about WHO you're interacting with and avoid the obvious scene that will come from making your statements in a certain way then your just as much to blame as the person that reacts as their nature tends that they will. its called being a member of society, yes you have every right to say what you want when you want, but if you knowingly do so to someone who is a known quantity (HA and his reactions for example) then you can't bitch about that person reacting that way when you could just have easily avoided it all and gotten to the same point later on. If you kick a bear its going to maul you, don;t get pissed at the bear.

[wade moore]

I poked the bear and didn't care about the reaction. But, those others around that saw the bear react didn't like it.

[wade moore]

dola:

Hell, I've shown in this thread that I'm not much better sometimes, I just don't "yell" quite as much when I do it.

[Raiders Army]

Nobody picked the bear yet, so can we quiet down about it already???

[Danny]

On a different note, I thought Maple Leafs initial commentary about the Simpson's being a sneaky pick was odd. I've always thought The Simpsons and shows along those lines were clearly sitcoms and pretty standard in this day and age.

[wade moore]

So back to the draft...

6.7 Joy Turner (My Name is Earl) - Bad Girl

Cheats on her husband and is a hoot.

I'm curious as to how this and the Barney pick will be viewed. I feel like the board as a whole watched a lot more sitcoms and have more nostalgia for shows that are no longer on the air. For instance I have never really watched either of those shows. So, I think these picks could suffer from a nostalgia perspective - but at the same time the people that like these shows LOVE these shows, so you may guarantee yourselves some voters just because of that.

[wade moore]

On a different note, I thought Maple Leafs initial commentary about the Simpson's being a sneaky pick was odd. I've always thought The Simpsons and shows along those lines were clearly sitcoms and pretty standard in this day and age.

I think so too, but I do agree with what someone said - when i try to "picture" these families it's awkward to have a Jordan/Looney Tunes look in my head.

[Raiders Army]

So back to the draft...



I'm curious as to how this and the Barney pick will be viewed. I feel like the board as a whole watched a lot more sitcoms and have more nostalgia for shows that are no longer on the air. For instance I have never really watched either of those shows. So, I think these picks could suffer from a nostalgia perspective - but at the same time the people that like these shows LOVE these shows, so you may guarantee yourselves some voters just because of that.

Yeah. I'm really trying to sort of do two things here: #1, create a somewhat all-star fantasy team from all generations (well, maybe not black and white TV) and #2, hedge my bet a little.

[wade moore]

And a note to the draft participants/viewers as a whole:

Sorry if it seems like I stir up trouble. I really don't' intend to. I feel like these things are a ton of fun, but that they get very frustrating as a participant if everyone isn't playing under the same rules. So I try to speak up when I feel like that isn't happening, and it sometimes ends up in me taking it too seriously instead of just letting things roll off. I need to do more like I did with the switchup pick early in the draft where it bothered me and I didn't say anything, rather than what I've done this morning.

Sorry. I dont' want to ruin anyone else's fun.

[Danny]

I think so too, but I do agree with what someone said - when i try to "picture" these families it's awkward to have a Jordan/Looney Tunes look in my head.

I'll just picture the whole family in animated form :). It will save my show on special effects for the clashes between Brain/Technology (Stewie) and Magic (Samantha). I'm sure Sam will be tougher to take out than Lois. The family can come back from vacation to see Kramer riding our talking horse using the spare key we gave him.

[wade moore]

Yeah. I'm really trying to sort of do two things here: #1, create a somewhat all-star fantasy team from all generations (well, maybe not black and white TV) and #2, hedge my bet a little.

Yup. Part of the reason for my Geoffrey pick is I was worried I was skewing too much to the "classics" and completely ignoring more recent shows. I still think that is a risk with my squad as it stands.

[Danny]

Yup. Part of the reason for my Geoffrey pick is I was worried I was skewing too much to the "classics" and completely ignoring more recent shows. I still think that is a risk with my squad as it stands.

I couldn't believe when someone hadn't heard of Barney Fife. I'm only 25, but he is one of the best known sitcom characters to me anyway.

[wade moore]

Hah - that's a pretty clever way of viewing it ;)

I'll just picture the whole family in animated form :). It will save my show on special effects for the clashes between Brain/Technology (Stewie) and Magic (Samantha). I'm sure Sam will be tougher to take out than Lois. The family can come back from vacation to see Kramer riding our talking horse using the spare key we gave him.

[wade moore]

I couldn't believe when someone hadn't heard of Barney Fife. I'm only 25, but he is one of the best known sitcom characters to me anyway.

Yeah, idano what's up with MrDNA - he didn't know Samantha either ;).

[Raiders Army]

I think so too, but I do agree with what someone said - when i try to "picture" these families it's awkward to have a Jordan/Looney Tunes look in my head.

I could see really see a show that would pair like cartoons together in an all-star cast work though. Maybe in a contest like setting where they have to compete in challenges. I'd call it the Laugh-a-Lympics or something. There would be three teams captained by a well-known cartoon. Of course, one of the teams would have to be really rotten though. The other two teams would alternate winning episodes. What do you think about that?

[DeToxRox]

Did Larry have a list or can we Viking rule him

[Dr. Sak]

From his list...

larrymcg421 selects...

6.8 Ellie Mae, Beverly Hillbillies - Sister

[Karlifornia]

Damn! Good pick from Larry...didn't even think about her.

[DeToxRox]

Team DeTox needs a motherly figure to keep us nurished. Frankly, she is a cancer to the clubhouse, and on a show I didn't find particularly funny, but she seems famous enough:

6.9 Marie Barone, Mom - Everyone Loves Raymond

[cartman]

6.10 - Wilson from Home Improvement - Wildcard

Going with a wildcard in the truest sense of the word. You only knew one of his names, never saw his face, but he was always ready to give some well needed advice.

http://blog.syracuse.com/axeman/2007/12/medium_wilson.jpg

[Lathum]

wasn't he picked already?

[Lathum]

hmmm, guess not, I must have been thinking of someone else

[Lathum]

blah, blah, blah

lets fight about the rules

blah blah blah

lets fight about the rules


blah blah blah


lets fight about the rules


blah blah blah


lets fight about the rules


blah blah blah

lets fight about the rules

[Danny]

I'm here, pick coming shortly.

[Tasan]

6.10 - Wilson from Home Improvement - Wildcard

Going with a wildcard in the truest sense of the word. You only knew one of his names, never saw his face, but he was always ready to give some well needed advice.

http://blog.syracuse.com/axeman/2007/12/medium_wilson.jpg


I had a hard time deciding between him and Al. I knew I wanted one of them though. Good pick.

[DeToxRox]

I am bracing for controversy with my next pick.

[Danny]

6.11 Springfield, Location

I was originally going to wait on location for a sleeper pick I had, but I can't believe my #1 location Springfield is still here. I think along with Mayberry, it's the most famous city location for a show. Plus, I think what makes the show so great is all of the extra characters that make up Springfield. Considering my family is pretty zaney, it's a good match.

[Karlifornia]

6.12 Eric Cartman- Bad Guy

Eric Cartman is king of all assholes. He's completely narcissistic, delusional, and sciopathic. All good traits of a bad guy

7.1 The dream world Bob Newhart- Location

Listen, with the family I've got so far, would it really be so far fetched for Bob Newhart to wake up next to Suzanne Pleshette and tell her about the crazy ass dream he was having?

[cartman]

6.12 Eric Cartman- Bad Guy

Eric Cartman is king of all assholes. He's completely narcissistic, delusional, and sciopathic. All good traits of a bad guy


Hey!

[Danny]

7.2 Charles, Nanny - Charles N Charge

One of the few in the Nanny/Butler/Maid category in which the whole show was based around. Again, very happy to have someone who was in my top 3 to start the draft. And really considering my mom is a witch, we really don't need a maid or a butler since she can just wiggle her nose and have the whole house clean and dinner served.

The possibility of funny business between the young heart throb nanny and the MILF mom, is sure to make for some good comedy as well.

[Tasan]

6.11 Springfield, Location

I was originally going to wait on location for a sleeper pick I had, but I can't believe my #1 location Springfield is still here. I think along with Mayberry, it's the most famous city location for a show. Plus, I think what makes the show so great is all of the extra characters that make up Springfield. Considering my family is pretty zaney, it's a good match.

Thats a pretty great use of a show right there. Not expected, when you have a whole bunch of players that could fit just about any role, but it works really well.

[wade moore]

6.12 Eric Cartman- Bad Guy

Eric Cartman is king of all assholes. He's completely narcissistic, delusional, and sciopathic. All good traits of a bad guy

Cartman slipped off of my list because of how my strategery has moved, but he's certainly one of my favorite bad guys on tv.