The FOFC Television Family Draft - Draft Underway

[Maple Leafs]

Social scientists have longed argued that any sufficiently lengthy internet fight will contain at least some vaguely interesting content.

Then all this happened, and they admitted they were wrong.

[cartman]

Dang it Danny, that was going to be my pick.

Give me a sec...

[DeToxRox]

I just totally shifted my idea on who to take..

And Scott Baio .. NICE

[wade moore]

7.2 Charles, Nanny - Charles N Charge

One of the few in the Nanny/Butler/Maid category in which the whole show was based around. Again, very happy to have someone who was in my top 3 to start the draft. And really considering my mom is a witch, we really don't need a maid or a butler since she can just wiggle her nose and have the whole house clean and dinner served.

The possibility of funny business between the young heart throb nanny and the MILF mom, is sure to make for some good comedy as well.

Both this and Toni were ones that completely slipped my mind, but are solid picks.

[Tasan]

7.2 Charles, Nanny - Charles N Charge

One of the few in the Nanny/Butler/Maid category in which the whole show was based around. Again, very happy to have someone who was in my top 3 to start the draft. And really considering my mom is a witch, we really don't need a maid or a butler since she can just wiggle her nose and have the whole house clean and dinner served.

The possibility of funny business between the young heart throb nanny and the MILF mom, is sure to make for some good comedy as well.

I came real close to taking Chachi from Happy Days as a friend to prevent this pick from happening. Nice job getting him so late.

[wade moore]

Side note - I'm impressed with the movement on a weekend.

[Danny]

Dang it Danny, that was going to be my pick.

Give me a sec...

He's someone I really wanted to make it back to me. I've been considering him since round 2. Karl already had the spot filled, so I knew I could safely take Springfield and still gets Charles.

[cartman]

Ok, I've regrouped, and am ready to make the pick.

7.3 Daphne Moon, Frasier - Housekeeper/Butler/Nanny

She filled all of the above mentioned roles during her time on the show. And a stone cold hotty to boot.

http://www.janeleeves.org/images/Jane-Leeves-Image.jpg

[Danny]

Not as hot as Scott Baio

[DeToxRox]

Not much more to say about this guy .. He's fucking out there.

7.4 Latka Gravas, Wildcard - Taxi

[Karlifornia]

Not as hot as Scott Baio

Plus, she only puts out to JFK Jr.

[cartman]

Plus, she only puts out to JFK Jr.

I think Archie Bunker might be able to crack that code.

[wade moore]

Housekeeper/Nanny has proven a far deeper category than I initially realized.

[Danny]

Plus, she only puts out to JFK Jr.

And Scott Baio puts out to everyone.

[cartman]

And Scott Baio puts out to everyone.

He seems to land only premium quality tail.

[Danny]

He seems to land only premium quality tail.

Those are the only ones that are slipped to the media.

[Dr. Sak]

From larrymcg421's list

7.5 Mr. Wilson, Dennis the Menace - Wildcard

[Danny]

Obviously we can talk more about this after with specific names, but it's amazing how weak the sister/daughter category is overall. Even the top picks would be weak in other categories.

[Karlifornia]

Obviously we can talk more about this after with specific names, but it's amazing how weak the sister/daughter category is overall. Even the top picks wouldn't be as strong in other categories.

Seriously....I'm probably just going to wait until the last round and pick through the rubble.

[Raiders Army]

Seriously....I'm probably just going to wait until the last round and pick through the rubble.

I've got some ideas for a few strong (in my mind) picks.

Gimme a sec to make sure that I'm not picking a mom that's already been picked.

[wade moore]

Obviously we can talk more about this after with specific names, but it's amazing how weak the sister/daughter category is overall. Even the top picks would be weak in other categories.

Like I said earlier - I really felt like Kelly Bundy and Marsha Brady were the clear 1/2 with a pretty steep drop to #3.

[Danny]

Like I said earlier - I really felt like Kelly Bundy and Marsha Brady were the clear 1/2 with a pretty steep drop to #3.

I guess they're likely the best of the bunch, but I'm not sure they are much better over the rest. I think even they are weak compared to other categories. Even brother for example, Alex Keaton blows both of them out of the water. Of course in voting it's relative to the spot. My commentary is more about sitcoms in general which seem to have weaker daughter/sister roles.

[Raiders Army]

7.6 Angela Bower (Who's the Boss?) - Mom

I picked Angela because she was the working mom who had Tony Danza working for her. Even though Maple Leafs chose Tony Micelli waaaaaay back in Round 3, I think that she provides the symmetry of successful (or intelligent) family members on my team.

[wade moore]

I guess they're likely the best of the bunch, but I'm not sure they are much better over the rest. I think even they are weak compared to other categories. Even brother for example, Alex Keaton blows both of them out of the water. Of course in voting it's relative to the spot. My commentary is more about sitcoms in general which seem to have weaker daughter/sister roles.

I don't really disagree with anything you're saying. I think those two are a little more clearly at the top of their category, but if you're talking "top sitcom children" those two might not even crack the top 20.

[Raiders Army]

I guess they're likely the best of the bunch, but I'm not sure they are much better over the rest. I think even they are weak compared to other categories. Even brother for example, Alex Keaton blows both of them out of the water. Of course in voting it's relative to the spot. My commentary is more about sitcoms in general which seem to have weaker daughter/sister roles.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I should've made my pick now for sister due to the discussion. *shrug*

[Raiders Army]

You know wade if you ever played a game of Werewolf, I think you'd do really well.

[Logan]

Really like all these latest picks, but not as much as I loved Maple Leafs' last post.

[Danny]

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I should've made my pick now for sister due to the discussion. *shrug*

Not sure it will effect that. Unless I know for sure I can get my picks for the other two spots I need to fill, I'll likely wait on sister until my last pick as well. Or someone comes to mind that isn't on my list.

[MrDNA]

Yeah, idano what's up with MrDNA - he didn't know Samantha either ;).

You bastard, I edited that post! This means a pages long fight! :devil:

[Danny]

You bastard, I edited that post! This means a pages long fight! :devil:

Hehe, I reread and didn't see it, so I never would have known unless he said something. But c'mon, you've never seen bewitched!

[MrDNA]

6.11 Springfield, Location

I was originally going to wait on location for a sleeper pick I had, but I can't believe my #1 location Springfield is still here. I think along with Mayberry, it's the most famous city location for a show. Plus, I think what makes the show so great is all of the extra characters that make up Springfield. Considering my family is pretty zaney, it's a good match.

7.2 Charles, Nanny - Charles N Charge

One of the few in the Nanny/Butler/Maid category in which the whole show was based around. Again, very happy to have someone who was in my top 3 to start the draft. And really considering my mom is a witch, we really don't need a maid or a butler since she can just wiggle her nose and have the whole house clean and dinner served.

The possibility of funny business between the young heart throb nanny and the MILF mom, is sure to make for some good comedy as well.

Dang, great back to back picks by Danny, possibily putting him in the lead. Springfield was my #1 location, but Charles wasn't even on my radar. Great pick in what I thought was a depleted category.

[MrDNA]

Crizzzzap, Daphne Moon as well? Housekeeper might be THE deepest category. I also love Latka as a wildcard pick. He's about the wildest card. I only wish someone could have picked Balki AND Latka on the same team - now THAT'S a show I wanna watch.

And Danny, it's not Bewitched I didn't watch, it's Andy Griffith - get my pop culture deficencies straight! (For the record I loved Bewitched, but after a full week of administering tests to kids my brain was fried)

[Raiders Army]

I think we should put the TV show beside the name for voting. Some names are readily apparent, while others are not. At the very least, there needs to be some sort of consistency in how we name them. For example, Charles from Charles in Charge is more recognizable than if you said you selected Charles (no last name given). Esther Rolle might be a head-scratcher, but once you say Esther Rolle from Good Times it clicks. I don't think we should make the voters research our picks.

[Danny]

Crizzzzap, Daphne Moon as well? Housekeeper might be THE deepest category. I also love Latka as a wildcard pick. He's about the wildest card. I only wish someone could have picked Balki AND Latka on the same team - now THAT'S a show I wanna watch.

And Danny, it's not Bewitched I didn't watch, it's Andy Griffith - get my pop culture deficencies straight! (For the record I loved Bewitched, but after a full week of administering tests to kids my brain was fried)

hehe, ok! ;)

[Danny]

I think we should put the TV show beside the name for voting. Some names are readily apparent, while others are not. At the very least, there needs to be some sort of consistency in how we name them. For example, Charles from Charles in Charge is more recognizable than if you said you selected Charles (no last name given). Esther Rolle might be a head-scratcher, but once you say Esther Rolle from Good Times it clicks. I don't think we should make the voters research our picks.

Good point!

[wade moore]

You know wade if you ever played a game of Werewolf, I think you'd do really well.

I'm honestly not 100% sure if that is a compliment or not ;).

[Maple Leafs]

7.7 - Pet - Buck Bundy

"If I had a thumb and a gun, you'd be dead."

[Tasan]

7.7 - Pet - Buck Bundy

"If I had a thumb and a gun, you'd be dead."

Thats a quality pick at this stage.

[Dr. Sak]

Lathum from his list selects...


7.8 - Clair Huxtable - Mom - Cosby Show

[Raiders Army]

I'm honestly not 100% sure if that is a compliment or not ;).

Definitely compliment. I think you'd like it as well.

[Dr. Sak]

I think we should put the TV show beside the name for voting. Some names are readily apparent, while others are not. At the very least, there needs to be some sort of consistency in how we name them. For example, Charles from Charles in Charge is more recognizable than if you said you selected Charles (no last name given). Esther Rolle might be a head-scratcher, but once you say Esther Rolle from Good Times it clicks. I don't think we should make the voters research our picks.

I'll do that in the voting thread.

[RendeR]

7.9 Shirley Partridge, Partridge Family, Shirley Jones: MOM

The ultimate Mom figure, she not only managed a household full of kids, as a single mom, but she rocked out hard with the entire family on tour!!

[Dr. Sak]

Tasan selects

7.10 Richie Cunningham-Happy Days - Brother/Son

[Dr. Sak]

Wade Moore Selects

7.11 Fred "Rerun" Stubbs - What's Happening Now!! - Best Friend of Lead - Theo and Rerun - what a pair? We know that Rerun matches up well with a relatively mild-mannered lead, he'd go great with Theo. And can you imagine Re-Run and Fred bouncing off of each other?!

[Tasan]

7.10 Richard "Richie" Cunningham, Happy Days - Brother/Son

The prototype for a sitcom brother/son, Richie was a good kid that got into tough spots that his friends and family bailed him out of in hilarious ways. He pestered his sister, drove his parents crazy sometimes, brought together a great cast of friends, and even eventually went off to college.

[Tasan]

Hey Sak, I'm here, been all day ;- )

[Mustang]

7.12 - Monica Geller (Sister), Friends

8.1 - Bernie McCullough, (Dad), Bernie Mac Show : Admit it, you'd turn into a show that had Bernie married to June Cleaver with the assumption he was teabagging her.

[Dr. Sak]

Sorry Tasan.

[Tasan]

Hey not a problem, that's who I wanted there anyway, as you see from my post. I saw you put up wade's pick, hit reply, and by the time I was done with my writeup you had posted the pick already. No harm, I'm gonna make my next pick though. You can toast that list now.

[Radii]

7.12 - Monica Geller (Sister), Friends

Very creative, I like it.

[Dr. Sak]

Wade Moore Selects

8.2 Deacon Ernest Frye - Amen - Bad Guy - What's funnier than a bad guy that is a leader in the church? Come on now. A money hungrey Deacon at this family's church is a great foil to the ever-loveable Fred.

[Danny]

Wade Moore Selects

8.2 Deacon Ernest Frye - Amen - Bad Guy - What's funnier than a bad guy that is a leader in the church? Come on now. A money hungrey Deacon at this family's church is a great foil to the ever-loveable Fred.

First show I'd never heard of.

[Mustang]

Completely forgot about that show.

[Tasan]

Wow thats a blast from the 80's, all one season of it. No George Jefferson for anyone now, if he was even a consideration, Sherman Hemsley played the Deacon. Only reason I know this show is because I grew up in Germany, and the lone US Military station, AFN, carried all the crappy, cheap to get shows.

[Tasan]

8.3 Red Forman, That 70s Show - Dad

Here's a dad who's done it all. He's caught his son with porn. He's caught his son with a girl. Caught his son drinking, and caught him smokin out. He's even had the TV heartattack. Red is both loveable and evil, and has done it all. The perfect sitcom Dad.

[RendeR]

8.4 Barney Rubble, Flintstones, best Friend Is there truly a more stolid and loyal best friend in any series than Barney? He saves Fred's bacon more often than can be counted.

[DaddyTorgo]

props to danny for his choice of Charles (of charles in charge) in 7.02 as housekeeper. great value pick!

[larrymcg421]

Hmm, I think George Jefferson could have been picked as a bad guy himself, and might have earned more points. I admire the offbeat selection though.

And I deliver this slight criticism with full confidence that wade is mature enough to not tell me to shove my head up my ass.

[Raiders Army]

Hmmm...maybe I'll get to pick tonight.

[Tasan]

I've sent a list to Sak since I won't be back around til after noon tomorrow. Good luck.

[Lathum]

8.5 Location- WKRP in Cincinnati

[wade moore]

Hmm, I think George Jefferson could have been picked as a bad guy himself, and might have earned more points. I admire the offbeat selection though.

And I deliver this slight criticism with full confidence that wade is mature enough to not tell me to shove my head up my ass.

Yeah, I knew this pick would not be my strongest - but at this point I'm more trying to build a sitcom than pick what I think will be the most popular characters. Not sure if the strategy will work, but it's what I'm going with here.

[wade moore]

Dola: There were 5 seasons of Amen fwiw.

[larrymcg421]

I like Amen. It's a really good show. I wasn't knocking it.

[Dr. Sak]

I am not going to be around much today to monitor lists. NFC and AFC championship parties to go to. So today it'll be on you guys...we've done a lot over the weekend so we'll start the time limit up again on Monday morning.

[wade moore]

Yeah, I'm around in and out today. I think we should expect today to go slow though and not worry too much.

[Maple Leafs]

8.6 - Location- South Park

[Logan]

8.4 Barney Rubble, Flintstones, best Friend Is there truly a more stolid and loyal best friend in any series than Barney? He saves Fred's bacon more often than can be counted.

Excellent pick.

And I deliver this slight criticism with full confidence that wade is mature enough to not tell me to shove my head up my ass.

:lol:

NFC and AFC championship parties to go to.

Look at Mr. Social over here!

8.6 - Location- South Park

Another great one. You guys are impressing me, gonna be tough to narrow this down.

[Raiders Army]

Larry, will pick in a sec.

[Raiders Army]

8.7 Miley Stewart (Hannah Montana) - Sister

[Danny]

8.7 Miley Stewart (Hannah Montana) - Sister

This pick nets you -100 points.

[DeToxRox]

This pick nets you -100 points.

That pick is better with age.

Drafted on potential.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

high risk low reward

[DeToxRox]

I'll be back to pick in 30.

[cartman]

I'll be back to pick in 30.

I'll be a waitin'

[Raiders Army]

This pick nets you -100 points.

What's not to like? She's by far the most successful sister on TV. Who else comes close?

[cartman]

What's not to like? She's by far the most successful sister on TV. Who else comes close?

You'll see. I have yet to pick in this category. :D

[Danny]

What's not to like? She's by far the most successful sister on TV. Who else comes close?

-100 man points, not sitcom draft points.

[MrDNA]

8.7 Miley Stewart (Hannah Montana) - Sister

Verrrrrry interesting. A bold move - the downside I see (besides a lot of people hating her and her dumb music) is that her show is considered a children's show rather than a "sitcom" or what-have-you. I wonder if the Flintstones should bear the same stigma?

[cartman]

I wonder if the Flintstones should bear the same stigma?

The Flintstones aired during prime time when it was released.

[Danny]

And was not a show for children. Cartoons back then were actually made for adults.

[Raiders Army]

-100 man points, not sitcom draft points.

Say what you want, but the Hannah Montana CDs are good stuff.

[larrymcg421]

8.8 Gob, Arrested Development - Bad Guy

[DeToxRox]

8.9 - Lowell Mathers, Housekeeper, Wings

I am sure this pick will be a touchy one but he was the Mechanic at the airport where 90% of the show took place. He was basically the housekepper since all he did was fix things.

[cartman]

8.10 Eric Murphy aka "E", Entourage - Best Friend of Lead Character

Fits the category description to a T. Has been Vince's best friend since they were kids, and is the only one that continually puts put with the crap when Vince goes into star prima donna mode, and often times is the only one that can reel Vince back in.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Entourage_ep307.png

[Danny]

8.11 Samantha Micelli, Sister/Daughter - Who's the Boss

Alyssa Milano > Christina Applegate

[hoopsguy]

Nice pick, Danny. I thought I would have that as a "misfit toy" selection at the end of the draft.

[Tasan]

8.9 - Lowell Mathers, Housekeeper, Wings

I am sure this pick will be a touchy one but he was the Mechanic at the airport where 90% of the show took place. He was basically the housekepper since all he did was fix things.

I would have gone with him as a Wildcard more than a Nanny/Butler.

[Tasan]

8.11 Samantha Micelli, Sister/Daughter - Who's the Boss

Alyssa Milano > Christina Applegate

I almost picked her with my last pick, but with the role definition, I'm not sure I wanted to endure the questioning. She technically wasn't a sister.

[Tasan]

8.7 Miley Stewart (Hannah Montana) - Sister

Bold choice. I have some similar people in mind from other shows of this type, but I'm not sure I'm brave enough to pick them. I definitely haven't been yet.

[Tasan]

8.6 - Location- South Park

I like this a LOT. It may be questioned because South Park isn't seen as a sitcom as much as The Simpsons or other shows like it on major networks, but if you get past that nobody can question you on the solidness of this pick. Right up there with Gilligan's Island if you ask me.

[DeToxRox]

I would have gone with him as a Wildcard more than a Nanny/Butler.

Already went WC, and I am hardpressed to think of anymore housekeepers sadly. He was all I could think of.

[Tasan]

Already went WC, and I am hardpressed to think of anymore housekeepers sadly. He was all I could think of.

There's a HUGE name in housekeeping left, I'm really suprised nobody has picked that person yet. Even had their own spinoff, if I remember correctly.

[Danny]

I almost picked her with my last pick, but with the role definition, I'm not sure I wanted to endure the questioning. She technically wasn't a sister.

By blood that's true, but I'd say she was a sister to Jonathan in the family dynamic on the show. For Alyssa, it's worth the risk :)

[Danny]

There's a HUGE name in housekeeping left, I'm really suprised nobody has picked that person yet. Even had their own spinoff, if I remember correctly.

Joey wasn't a housekeeper

[Tasan]

Joey wasn't a housekeeper

LOL

Definitely not Joey. The spinoff in question lasted even shorter than that.

[Maple Leafs]

8.11 Samantha Micelli, Sister/Daughter - Who's the Boss

Win.

Alyssa Milano > Christina Applegate
Fail.

[Danny]

http://www.scifidesktop.org.uk/gallery/albums/actresses/A-F/Alyssa/Alyssa_Milano-Phoebe_100.jpg

[cartman]

That pic is more from her "Charmed" days than her "Who's the Boss" days.

[Danny]

Yeah, that was for the Alyssa-Christina discussion though, not the sitcom character one.

[Karlifornia]

8.12 Wednesday Addams, sister- The Addams Family

You could think of her as the inspiration for Harold from Harold & Maude, and possibly Lydia from Beetlejuice. Cutting off Barbie heads in a homemade guillotine? That's my kind of girl!

My next pick will be coming shortly

[RendeR]

Nothing wrong with the alyssa milano pick, she could play a sister easily enough, but she wasn't one in that show.

As for the hotness comparison, If i wanted a girlfriend or long term lover I'd take alyssa, but for sheer one time freakiness christina all the way.

[RendeR]

8.12 Wednesday Addams, sister- The Addams Family

You could think of her as the inspiration for Harold from Harold & Maude, and possibly Lydia from Beetlejuice. Cutting off Barbie heads in a homemade guillotine? That's my kind of girl!

My next pick will be coming shortly


Now THATS a great pick. Nice one karl.

[Danny]

Wednesday is a good pick, she was on my list for sister also.

[MrDNA]

8.8 Gob, Arrested Development - Bad Guy

I was wondering if anyone would go from this show. It's probably my favorite show of all time, but got axed so fast by FOX that it's not so much of a cultural touchstone. Gob's a damn great character though, and always trying to sleep with your brother's girlfriend? That's a bad guy.

Re: Entourage. I've never seen it, but I always thought it was a drama.

EDIT: And no, I don't have cable now, but I did growing up :p

[cartman]

Re: Entourage. I've never seen it, but I always thought it was a drama.

It's considered a 'dramedy', a class of sitcoms that also includes M*A*S*H and Taxi.

[Karlifornia]

9.1. Corky, Life Goes On- Wild Card

I mean, is there really any more of a true wildcard than Corky. His lack of complete mental facilities, combined with a slight mean streak created some real interesting times for the Thatcher (yes, I had to look up their last name) family.

FACT: Corky once burned down his fathers restaurant, only to blame it on the immigrant chef.

FACT: Corky once stood up to bullies by donning a leather jacket and lip-synching "Fight The Power" at a Talent Show

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[Danny]

9.2 Jed Clampett, Dad - Beverly Hillbillies

[cartman]

Ok, thinking outside the box on this one. A lot of sitcoms have a wacky theme, and my next pick most definitely fits the bill. With Archie Bunker as the dad, having a mom that can handle and deal with him is a tall order. So that led me to my pick:

9.3 The car, from My Mother the Car - Mom

Only a car possessed by the ghost of Jerry Van Dyke's character's mom that only communicates through the car's radio can take the spot of Edith Bunker.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/63-17017.jpg

[DeToxRox]

9.4 - Michelle Tanner, Sister - Full House

The origial Mylie Cyrus.

[Danny]

9.4 - Michelle Tanner, Sister - Full House

The origial Mylie Cyrus.

Another good pick. Was on my list too.

[RendeR]

Ok, thinking outside the box on this one. A lot of sitcoms have a wacky theme, and my next pick most definitely fits the bill. With Archie Bunker as the dad, having a mom that can handle and deal with him is a tall order. So that led me to my pick:

9.3 The car, from My Mother the Car - Mom

Only a car possessed by the ghost of Jerry Van Dyke's character's mom that only communicates through the car's radio can take the spot of Edith Bunker.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/63-17017.jpg


Good thing this is a sitcom-ish draft cause that description is cracking me up =)

Good creativity Cartman.

[MrDNA]

Spreadsheet updated through 9.01.

[Tasan]

9.1. Corky, Life Goes On- Wild Card

I mean, is there really any more of a true wildcard than Corky. His lack of complete mental facilities, combined with a slight mean streak created some real interesting times for the Thatcher (yes, I had to look up their last name) family.

FACT: Corky once burned down his fathers restaurant, only to blame it on the immigrant chef.

FACT: Corky once stood up to bullies by donning a leather jacket and lip-synching "Fight The Power" at a Talent Show

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I know I know...the rules "allow" for non-sitcom choices, but this one is interesting. Life Goes On was definitely a drama, but Corky did provide some laughs on the show (although he was the source of most of the drama as shown above). There are some other greats out there for Wildcard as well. It'll be interesting to see how the voters see this one.

[larrymcg421]

Picking now...

[larrymcg421]

9.5 Murray, Mad About You - Pet

[Tasan]

9.5 Murray, Mad About You - Pet

Good pick there. The pet pool is getting pretty shallow.

[RendeR]

Good movement here, lets keep it going!

[Chief Rum]

I have been busier than expected and haven't been able to follow this from post to post. So if this has been discussed let me know.

But did anyone notice that by emphasizing the family sitcoms in the category sets, it made it a lot more difficult to utilize characters from "friend" or "work" or "situation" type comedies, like Friends, The Office, Seinfeld, etc.?

Of course it is a Television Family draft, so I guess that's not the goal. But I would have liked to see a draft which incorporated both the family sitcom and the other sitcom types to become a television comedy character draft of sorts.

But in any case, still looks like tons of fun. Great idea for a draft. :)

[RendeR]

I have been busier than expected and haven't been able to follow this from post to post. So if this has been discussed let me know.

But did anyone notice that by emphasizing the family sitcoms in the category sets, it made it a lot more difficult to utilize characters from "friend" or "work" or "situation" type comedies, like Friends, The Office, Seinfeld, etc.?

Of course it is a Television Family draft, so I guess that's not the goal. But I would have liked to see a draft which incorporated both the family sitcom and the other sitcom types to become a television comedy character draft of sorts.

But in any case, still looks like tons of fun. Great idea for a draft. :)


Please stop causing problems....


;)



That indeed was discussed both at length and vehemently. The rules were "adjusted" to allow selections from shows other than sitcoms. it has definitely changed the way the picks have gone.

[Chief Rum]

Please stop causing problems....


;)



That indeed was discussed both at length and vehemently. The rules were "adjusted" to allow selections from shows other than sitcoms. it has definitely changed the way the picks have gone.

lol...whoops, ignore me then. ;)

[MikeVic]

Nice Michelle Tanner pick.

[Tasan]

oops wrong thread

[Lathum]

gah.

Wednesday was on my list

[Maple Leafs]

9.3 The car, from My Mother the Car - Mom
Was the car American-made? Because if it's not, I think Archie's going to have a serious problem with this pick.

[cartman]

Was the car American-made? Because if it's not, I think Archie's going to have a serious problem with this pick.

According to Wikipedia, All-American, baby!

The car used in the show was an amalgam of different cars. "Mother" was built by Barris Kustom Industries and was powered by a 283 cubic inch (4.6 L) Chevrolet V8 and Powerglide automatic transmission. The carnation red body with white top was created from parts of a Model T, a Maxwell, a Hudson and a Chevrolet. Mother's hood, radiator shell and "Porter" radiator script were custom made. The design was anachronistic in many ways, with features from vehicles of the early 1920s and even the 1910s.

[Raiders Army]

9.6 Scooby Doo (Scooby Doo, Where Are You?) - Pet

I wasn't going to go animated, but the pet pool is really shallow at this point. Plus, remember all those episodes where Scooby Doo met the Three Stooges or the Harlem Globetrotters?

[Karlifornia]

Darn, RA. You took my pet.

[MrDNA]

Daaaaamn, nice pet pick this late.

[Maple Leafs]

9.7 - Sister - Mallory Keaton

No imagination here, just trying to get somebody decent in a tough category.

[wade moore]

I'm not a huge fan of the Scooby pick, but I'm coming to realize that I think I won't be a fan of the cartoon characters period just because of how it looks in my mind.

[lordscarlet]

I'm not a huge fan of the Scooby pick, but I'm coming to realize that I think I won't be a fan of the cartoon characters period just because of how it looks in my mind.

I think the farther it gets from sitcom-esque cartoons (The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Flintstones) the harder it gets to see the picks as fitting.

[wade moore]

I think the farther it gets from sitcom-esque cartoons (The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Flintstones) the harder it gets to see the picks as fitting.

Possibly - that being said, I think if you're clever about how you frame the family, you can make it work.

[Dr. Sak]

Thanks for keeping up with this. I woke up this morning with the stomach flu. Didn't go to work but I'll try to check in as much as I can.

[RendeR]

You had to work on MLK day?

[Dr. Sak]

Yep...we don't get it off.

[RendeR]

That sucks, sorry yer sick man, enjoy the day off anyway =)

[lordscarlet]

I'm not supposed to go back to work until Wednesday, and I took that day off. :)

[RendeR]

I'm not supposed to go back to work until Wednesday, and I took that day off. :)

Nice...its back to the grind for me tomorrow. I dread the first week of the semester, so many students without a clue.

[Dr. Sak]

From Lathum's list

9.8 Thing- pet- - the adams family

[Raiders Army]

I think the farther it gets from sitcom-esque cartoons (The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Flintstones) the harder it gets to see the picks as fitting.

Hey, there was a laugh track on Scooby Doo!

[Raiders Army]

Yep...we don't get it off.

Gotta work today too.

[RendeR]

From Lathum's list

9.8 Thing- pet- - the adams family

See I was gonna go with this but I just can't consider thing a pet. Perhaps a servant but not a pet. 9.9 Eddie the dog, Frazier, Pet Eddie was your typical comedic releif when teh show would get sappy or sorrowful.

[Mustang]

See I was gonna go with this but I just can't consider thing a pet. Perhaps a servant but not a pet. 9.9 Eddie the dog, Frazier, Pet Eddie was your typical comedic releif when teh show would get sappy or sorrowful.

Sorry, I picked him earlier.

[RendeR]

Gah, damned editor is fubared again. Anyone else get this problem? when the editor isn't clickable and line breaks don't show up properly?

[RendeR]

Sorry, I picked him earlier.

Oh siht...how'd I miss that??? repick coming.. sorry.

[Mustang]

Oh siht...how'd I miss that??? repick coming.. sorry.

No prob. Nice pick though. :D

[lordscarlet]

I'd say the first re-pick in the ninth round is doing pretty well. :) Actually, the first completely illegal pick I believe!

[Tasan]

I'm here to pick whenever RendeR gets his new one in.

[RendeR]

9.9 redux Snoopy, Charlie Brown and Friends, Pet

Can't go wrong with the coolest pet around. Joe Cool, WWI flying Ace and generally all around great beagle Snoopy.
I was torn on using him but considering picks from shows like Scooby Doo and the Jetsons I think this fits just as well.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Was Snoopy ever a regular TV show?

[Tasan]

9.10 This street in San Francisco, Full House - Location

Does it get more iconic than this? This image is probably burnt into millions of people's minds as the sitcom family home.
http://www.rusmar-solutions.com/dave/sitompic.jpg

[RendeR]

Was Snoopy ever a regular TV show?


Yes it had a short run during the 80's

[Tasan]

I think both the scooby pick and the snoopy pick will get grief from voters for being morning cartoons as opposed to prime time shows like the Jetsons, Flintstones, Simpsons, and others.

[Lathum]

I re thought my pick of thing and really didn't want him. I used thing as a just in case pick.

I would like to petition for a re pick if possible. Usualy the draft hours are 9-9 with a 2 hour window, so I would have had until 11:00 EST and Sak picked for me before my time was up, I thought of one I like alot more as I was brushing my teeth last night.

If Sak objects to that I guess it's cool, I don't want more drama.

[RendeR]

I think both the scooby pick and the snoopy pick will get grief from voters for being morning cartoons as opposed to prime time shows like the Jetsons, Flintstones, Simpsons, and others.


Yeah I can see that, which is also why i went with Snoopy since he did at least appear in Prime time in the specials =) its picking nits, but its all I got ;)

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I'm w/ Tasan. No problem with Flintstones, Jetsons, Simpsons or other prime time cartoons. The others feel a bit off.

[Lathum]

forget my above petition, it would be an illegeal pick anyway

[Dr. Sak]

I re thought my pick of thing and really didn't want him. I used thing as a just in case pick.

I would like to petition for a re pick if possible. Usualy the draft hours are 9-9 with a 2 hour window, so I would have had until 11:00 EST and Sak picked for me before my time was up, I thought of one I like alot more as I was brushing my teeth last night.

If Sak objects to that I guess it's cool, I don't want more drama.

I don't have a problem with it. You just can't pick anyone that anyone did after you. I wasnt sure if you wanted me to use that list you gave me anyway.

[Lathum]

thanks Sak, I have a new one coming up

[Lathum]

9.8 repick - Marcel the Monkey- friends-pet

[wade moore]

9.11 - Washington, D.C. - 227 - Location - This is not necessarily a standout show, but Chocolate City is the perfect backdrop for this happy little family.

[Lathum]

hey Wade, why wouldn't you just pick apartment 227?

[larrymcg421]

Well with DC, he also gets to cover other classic shows like the splendid John Ritter-Markie Post sitcom Hearts Afire.

[MrDNA]

And thanks for getting THAT theme song stuck in my head :puke:

[MrDNA]

Spreadsheet Updated through 9.11 - looks like we might finish this bad boy today

[Dr. Sak]

Thanks for updating the spreadsheet MrDNA

[Mustang]

9.12 - James 'J.J.' Evans, Jr. (brother), Good Times : If Bernie is going to be married to June, he has to have his own son so, this pick is DY-NO-MITE!

10.1 1313 Mockingbird Lane (location), Munsters : The Munsters clear out and my family moves in.

[Tasan]

Anyone mind if I get my last pick in now? wade's last is in a totally different category.

[Dr. Sak]

Wade picks

10.2 - Mr. Cooper - Hangin' With Mr. Cooper - Wildcard (Coach/Teacher) - Mr. Cooper is not a glamorous pick, but he rounds out our cast perfectly. As Rerun and Theo struggle on their DC High School's basketball team (they're not very good), Mr. Cooper helps to mentor them in the classroom and on the court.

[Tasan]

Thats a real solid last pick there.

[MikeVic]

If this thing is almost done, there's still at least one person from the same show that I can't believe wasn't picked yet.

[Tasan]

10.3 Rudy Huxtable, The Cosby Show - Sister/Daughter

Rudy is a great little sister. Precocious, sweet, adorable, but with that mischievous streak to get her in trouble, Rudy rounds out this cast with a cute smile and an honest heart. A great sitcom sister.

[MrDNA]

Hell, there's a whole SHOW I can't believe hasn't been touched.

[Tasan]

There are several shows that I'm real suprised didn't get more picks.

[Lathum]

There are several shows that I'm real suprised didn't get more picks.

well there are also a number of shows with multiple picks. I think it would have been much more challenging if the whole show was eliminated once a character from that show was picked

[Danny]

well there are also a number of shows with multiple picks. I think it would have been much more challenging if the whole show was eliminated once a character from that show was picked

That would have been fun, but probably limit it to 10 people.

[Tasan]

well there are also a number of shows with multiple picks. I think it would have been much more challenging if the whole show was eliminated once a character from that show was picked

I agree with this. We'd have a WIDE assortment of shows then. I shudder to think of some of the shows we would have had to come up with.

[henry296]

100 different shows would be really difficult.

[Tasan]

100 different shows would be really difficult.


Nah, you'd just need a good knowledge of older shows, thats all.

[wade moore]

hey Wade, why wouldn't you just pick apartment 227?

Simple - I just didn't think of it ;). If I had thought of it, I would have.

[RendeR]

10.4 Florince Johnson, The Jeffersons, housekeeper

She went on to have her own show spinoff from the Jeffersons that did well as she continued the spirited snarky character of Florince who spent her days riddling her employer with jibes about everything from his height to his lack of hair.

[Dr. Sak]

Excuse me Flo....you know like the TV show...what's the soup de jur?

[Tasan]

10.4 Florince Johnson, The Jeffersons, housekeeper

She went on to have her own show spinoff from the Jeffersons that did well as she continued the spirited snarky character of Florince who spent her days riddling her employer with jibes about everything from his height to his lack of hair.


FINALLY.

I thought she might go undrafted. I can't believe it took til the last round for her to get picked.

[RendeR]

FINALLY.

I thought she might go undrafted. I can't believe it took til the last round for her to get picked.


I've held her in reserve the entire time. No one was touching that show so I thought she'd last. Lucky me =)

[Lathum]

10.5- sister- Vicki the robot- small wonder

thinking a little outside the box on this one, I'll probably get killed for it

[MikeVic]

10.5- sister- Vicki the robot- small wonder

thinking a little outside the box on this one, I'll probably get killed for it

EXCELLENT.

[Maple Leafs]

10.5- sister- Vicki the robot- small wonder

thinking a little outside the box on this one, I'll probably get killed for it

I was wondering if somebody would make this awful pick.

Kudos.

[cartman]

I guess I'm the last one to pick in the Sister category. My choice lasted, prepare to be blown away at 10.10. If I'm not already the winner right now, I will be after my selection.

[Radii]

10.5- sister- Vicki the robot- small wonder

thinking a little outside the box on this one, I'll probably get killed for it

This is the first show picked that I have no memory or knowledge of whatsoever, which seems weird since I was 10 when it came out.

[Maple Leafs]

10.6 - Bad guy - Maj. Frank Burns from MASH

[Danny]

10.5- sister- Vicki the robot- small wonder

thinking a little outside the box on this one, I'll probably get killed for it

I watched some of that show, it wasn't bad. Considering the overall quality at the position, it's not a bad pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Oddly enough, Vicki is the second sister to be chosen who, technically speaking, had no siblings.

[Danny]

Oddly enough, Vicki is the second sister to be chosen who, technically speaking, had no siblings.

Actually 3rd, Ellie May, Samantha and now Vicki

[Lathum]

Oddly enough, Vicki is the second sister to be chosen who, technically speaking, had no siblings.

how did she have no siblings?

There was a brother in the show.

[Danny]

how did she have no siblings?

There was a brother in the show.

They're not related though. Vicki is a robot. Within the family dynamic she is like a sister, but not technically speaking. It's the same with Ellie May and Samantha. There were brother types in the dynamic, but they technically had no siblings.

[Maple Leafs]

how did she have no siblings?

There was a brother in the show.
And did she emerge from the same vagina that he did?

[MikeVic]

Did they ever say they DIDN'T go through a formal adoption of Vicki? If not, we can't say for sure she wasn't the sister.

[Radii]

Jethro and Ellie May weren't related?

[Lathum]

And did she emerge from the same vagina that he did?

I'm adopted and so is my sister, yet we are as much siblings as anyone else

[Radii]

Jethro and Ellie May weren't related?

dola

The Hillbillies themselves were Buddy Ebsen as the widowed patriarch Jed "J.D." Clampett; Irene Ryan as his mother-in-law, Daisy May "Granny" Moses; Donna Douglas as his daughter Elly May Clampett; and Max Baer Jr. as his cousin's son Jethro Bodine.

I dunno if I ever knew that.

[Danny]

Did they ever say they DIDN'T go through a formal adoption of Vicki? If not, we can't say for sure she wasn't the sister.

then Samantha had a brother because Tony and Angela were together throughout the show and when it ended. And I'm pretty sure Jed was Jethro's legal guardian, so he and Ellie May were like brother and sister. I think all 3 picks are fine, but technically maple leafs was right.

[Danny]

Jethro and Ellie May weren't related?

No, Jed was Ellie May's father and Jethro's uncle, though he took care of them both.

Like I said, I think all three picks are fine. All three were non traditional family systems, but within the dynamic on the show, all three were basically siblings.

[Radii]

Like I said, I think all three picks are fine. All three were non traditional family systems, but within the dynamic on the show, all three were basically siblings.


Yeah I agree completely.

[MikeVic]

There's still two picks out there that HAVE to be made!!

[Raiders Army]

10.7 POW Camp (Hogan's Heroes) - Location

[Raiders Army]

Ah, I see everyone picked bad guy, so I am safe to say I should've picked COL Klink as my bad guy instead of Joy Turner, but oh well.

[cartman]

Please tell me larry and DeTox sent in lists. I am SO ready to announce my pick, and revel in the inevitable glory.

[DeToxRox]

I am here brah

[cartman]

w00t! And I see larry is viewing the thread.

[larrymcg421]

I sent in a list, but I see the doc hasn't picked for me yet, so I'll review and make sure my pick hasn't gone.

[Danny]

Four of us here, we will just need Karl to come on to finish this up.

[larrymcg421]

10.8 Ethel Mertz, I Love Lucy - Best Friend

Lucy and Ethel were a great team. In fact, perhaps the most memorable I Love Lucy moment doesn't even involve Desi. It is the chocolate factory scene where Lucy and Ethel fall behind schedule as the conveyor belt starts moving too fast for them to keep up.

[DeToxRox]

10.9 - Santas Little Helper, Simpons - Pet

[cartman]

Ok, I'm giving people time to sit down, to prepare themselves to fully understand and appreciate my pick. Coming up...

[larrymcg421]

Uh oh...

[MikeVic]

Nice pet pick.

[BrianD]

You better not fail to deliver.

[MikeVic]

Vicki's already taken cartman.

[Danny]

Both Ethel and Santa's little helper are good picks this late.

[Danny]

It's taken too long, Cartman's last pick has been removed from the draft.

[Maple Leafs]

That pick sucks, cartman.

[Maple Leafs]

Ah, I see everyone picked bad guy, so I am safe to say I should've picked COL Klink as my bad guy instead of Joy Turner, but oh well.
Suprised nobody took Sideshow Bob.

[larrymcg421]

Prediction: He will pick God/Jesus from some show that had him as a major character.

[Danny]

Suprised nobody took Sideshow Bob.

You just ruined my last pick, I was going to take him as brother.:mad:

[MikeVic]

As the sister?

[cartman]

For my final pick, I go into the category of 'sister'. This is another definite outside the box pick, but in the realm of sitcoms it makes perfect sense. My pick is:

10.10 Buffy Wilson, Bosom Buddies - Sister

http://www.thegreatcornholio.com/images/bb2.jpg

This character is the 'sister' to Tom Hanks' Kip Wilson, when he needs to keep his female identity in place, and not get kicked out of the all-women's hotel where he is staying. This construct was a key reason the plot was able to work. Plus, it gets Tom Hanks on my team.

[larrymcg421]

Oh I didn't know he was picking sister.

[MikeVic]

That's an OK pick. I'm still waiting for a couple of picks though!!

[larrymcg421]

Clever, but I was expecting some controversy. No one will be cussing you out over this. Disappointing.

[cartman]

That's an OK pick. I'm still waiting for a couple of picks though!!

Dude, no one is going to pick from DeGrassi Junior High.

[Danny]

10.11 Cory Matthews, Brother - Boy Meets World

One of my favorite shows growing up.

[Maple Leafs]

I would have used Hanks as the alcoholic uncle from Family Ties.

[MikeVic]

Dude, no one is going to pick from DeGrassi Junior High.

No not that show!

[MikeVic]

Not bad brother pick too.

[MikeVic]

Can I just mention who I am shocked isn't picked?

[cartman]

Can I just mention who I am shocked isn't picked?

after Karl picks, sure

:D

[MikeVic]

Hurry up Karl!

[Danny]

Karl has pet left, can your suggestions be used as a pet?

[MikeVic]

Neither of them can.

[Buccaneer]

Lots of good picks, lots of very awful picks.

[MikeVic]

I'll wait until the draft is over.

I think it'll be fun to figure out some people that weren't picked.

[Tasan]

10.11 Cory Matthews, Brother - Boy Meets World

One of my favorite shows growing up.


Bravo. That is an EXCELLENT pick. I loved that show.

[Tasan]

The more I think about Boy Meets World, the more I wish I had remembered it. There are some real good characters to use in there.

[MrDNA]

TO-PAN-GA!

http://thesuperficial.com/2007/12/24/1224_danielle_fishel_dui_00-thumb-450x675.jpg

[MrDNA]

Er... also, spreadsheet updated w/ everything except Karl's last pick

[Karlifornia]

10.12 Salem, Sabrina The Teenage Witch-pet

Salem was a rogue wizard punished to living 100 years in the form of a cat. Sabrina. He was always willing to give Sabrina and her aunts advice, usually involving the use to spells. Voiced by former ESPN personality Nick Backay.

[mckerney]

The reason everyone failed the housekeeper category:

http://blog.meevee.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/22/janitor.jpg

[DeToxRox]

Kudos to Karl for start and ending the draft with shitty picks!

[cartman]

woot! Now we can talk picks that we thought should have been made.

I really thought someone was going to take Lurch in the Butler/Housekeeper/Nanny category.